Besides Iphone, are there any current or upcoming alternatives to the Z3 compact that you are personally considering?
Z4 in Feb or March
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I wonder if they'll skip the compact again.
I guess they will skip the Z4C as well as I personally don't actually see the need for it. Moving from the Z1C to the Z3C was a big improvement. Now, except design and SW features (which, latter, apparently will come down to the Z2 later on as well) the Z3 is not really that much different from the Z2. So, a technology update is only due for the Z3 to move on to Z4, but not for the Z3C. My take.
Before I bought Z3C, I was considering going for Galaxy Alpha.
There really isn't any alternatives, to be honest. Nothing matches up, feature wise.
I have not decided between Alpha and,Z3 C.
Alpha is more rugged , with better quality control.
Z3 C has better Camera , not a huge difference.
Z3 C better battery, but Alpha will soon have 2500 mah.
Speakers are better on SOME Z3s, Alpha has louder speaker than many Z3Cs.
Alpha has complicated Touchwiz but will have fewer software bugs on emails, sudden death, charger, Uycracked glass, etc etc.
Only two powerful Compact Androids are Alpha and Z3C.
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I think there will be a Z4 Compact and Z4 and Tablet.
I hope there is a Z4 C , read they will remain waterproof
but with no flaps, and more powerful Audio/Speakers,
new Sensor and either 805 or 810 SOC.
Hopefully SONY will use shatterproof flexible glass on Back (to avoid shatter on a rigid back)..and GG4 on Screen- thick metal sides, .
Forget "ultrathin and ultalighweight" make these RUGGED.
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I decided to change my aging Galaxy S II because its dev community becane stagnant (no kernel sources, tons of kangs). The XT sounded perfect on paper : 720p screen, 13mp camera, Krait chipset, good sound quality and some great devs migrated to it. However after a week of use I can't help but feel a bitter taste in my mouth for buying it sight unseen (this phone is very hard to get in my country). Here is my little "rant", structured in in bullet points:
1) The screen acquired TONS of microscratches in just a week. I knew sony doesn't use gorilla glass, but this is terrible. I can't even pull it out of my pocket w/o fearing that it will scratch . I am very careful with my phone (my S2 was in pristine condition after two months of use with no screen protectors/cases), so I doubt it's me. Also, the screen itself is pretty bad, but I won't complain too much about it since I read about this in reviews and various topics around here.
2) The case paint already started peeling. Not much, but at this rate it will look like it's 2 years old in just a month. Such a shame since I love the finish.
Another point of concern is the audio quality. It has a discernible hiss no matter what headphones or music app I use. It's even worse on CM10 and since I got this phone mostly for the dev community this just sucks donkey balls. Every respectable reviewer complained about the SQ of the S2 and its background noise caused by the CPU/radios and none about the XT and yet it is easier to notice on the XT.
What is your opinion about this? I've seen that some topics already covered some of these issues, but I think they need to be brought again to the attention of potential buyers.
LE: It seems that my headphone jack port is also very flimsy. It falls off every time I try to put on / take off my case.
Strange... My XT seems very robust, difficult to scratch and the ruberish coating seems perfect. Perhaps you should contact Sony and request a replacement. Check the booklets that came with it perhaps?
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1) There is a shatter proof sheet applied on it. So the micro scratches is technically on that, not on the screen itself. Peel that off and apply a new screen protector.
2) Is a known issue for LT30p? I havent seen anyone posting issues with LT30at or LT30a atm.
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There is a shatter proof sheet applied on it. So the micro scratches is technically on that, not on the screen itself. Peel that off and apply a new screen protector.
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Is that sheet made of glass? I can't seem to be able to peel it. I heard that it should come with a screen protector, but i haven't found anything in the box.
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Is that sheet made of glass? I can't seem to be able to peel it. I heard that it should come with a screen protector, but i haven't found anything in the box.
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It's a very, very thick screen protector. It comes off but it takes some work. Trying to peel it off at the corners using a piece of paper seems to work best for most people, but you'll just have to spend some time on it if you really want to get it off
You should leave it on though, unless those microscratches really bother you.
On sound quality: it's perfectly fine for me and I use audiophile earbuds (these: https://pro.sony.com/bbsc/ssr/product-MDR7550/). It lacks a tiny bit of stereo separation and clarity, but not worse than any other phone at all.
I thought it's something like this one, but preapplied since it didn't come in the box. Any tutorials on how to do it? I already ordered a 3M screen protector which should be much harder to scratch.
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-pq6uy48M6s4/UGR3T6EPswI/AAAAAAAAABY/XmVScLnfV1Q/s1600/WP_000025.jpg
Also, what ROM/music player are you using?
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I thought it's something like this one, but preapplied since it didn't come in the box. Any tutorials on how to do it? I already ordered a 3M screen protector which should be much harder to scratch.
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-pq6uy48M6s4/UGR3T6EPswI/AAAAAAAAABY/XmVScLnfV1Q/s1600/WP_000025.jpg
Also, what ROM/music player are you using?
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In contrast to you, I am not discouraging anyone to buy it.
Well, I am using Xperia V (LT25i) and perhaps it has different build quality since it has to withstand dirt and water? It has a metal frame (looks like atleast) and rubber on the backside. It also came with an extra screen protector in the box. I know you don't care about Xperia V but maybe somebody reading this wants to know? Only downside are all these flipp flop USB-, charger and headphone openings that has to be sealed after use.
In regard to music player, PowerAmp is a must for best sound! :good:
Hope you don't feel too bad about the Xperia T and Happy New Year!
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In contrast to you, I am not discouraging anyone to buy it.
Well, I am using Xperia V (LT25i) and perhaps it has different build quality since it has to withstand dirt and water? It has a metal frame (looks like atleast) and rubber on the backside. It also came with an extra screen protector in the box. I know you don't care about Xperia V but maybe somebody reading this wants to know? Only downside are all these flipp flop USB-, charger and headphone openings that has to be sealed after use.
In regard to music player, PowerAmp is a must for best sound! :good:
Hope you don't feel too bad about the Xperia T and Happy New Year!
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Of course it has different build quality. The IP57 certification is pretty rough. And the screen might be different too.
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Of course it has different build quality. The IP57 certification is pretty rough. And the screen might be different too.
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I had mine since December 3rd with lots of time to test and use it. Maybe you got a faulty device, it happend to me before and I made DOA. Got a new phone in the shop next day.
Xperia V Walkman is good too, don't know if it is the same version as Xperia T.
Conclusion of Xperia V (if someone wants to know).
*No scratch on the display (one extra sheet in the box).
*Feels good in hand and sturdy built quality, no squeaky parts.
*Music and sound is fine, but if I want louder volume -I buy PowerAmp.
If it gets dirty-, too hot or scratched, just wash it with cold water.
My XT is perfect for me, I havn't any problem on screen or anything.
Sony Xperia T - Stock ROM - Firmware 7.0.3.195 - 4.1.2 Stock Leaked Launcher - Rooted soon.
Xperia V is also good and maybe more, but I like my phone !
Sony Xperia T - Stock ROM - Firmware 7.0.3.195 - 4.1.2 Stock Leaked Launcher - Rooted soon.
My T is perfectly working. No scratches, and the screen quality is superb. It also doesn't peel in the back.
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The only thing i'found is that the back cover makes a little sound sometimes if I press it, like if it wasn't well attached. Sorry for my english.
Sucks to hear that op. I have my XT since 15 November and I have no problems. The phone looks and works as new. No scratches, no poor performance. I have the newest firmware available and everything works just fine.
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Well, it isn't the performance that bothers me. Actually, the performance is great. And finally having CM10 with working project butter features is like a godsend. I'm just worried about the outer casing.
Ive had my XT since it came out in UK, its great but the only problem I have is the build quality, I don't have the flaking issue, but more the phone creaking, its quite a annoying sound. I have a case but I only have it on when I go out.
Apart from that its awesome phone
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I've also got the creaking issue. Also removed the rather thick shatter protector that has improved screen responsiveness and contract, slightly...
Would be interested in the Xperia Z though, if the price is right i'd exchange.
had my xperia t since october3rd not one scratch looks like new guess i take better care of mine that anyone else
Had mine since the 26th October. It's on O2 UK with the Bond branding.
Build quality is excellent thus far. No peeling. Screen has pre-applied protector, plus the one that came in the box. Very happy with it. Previous phone was an iPhone 3GS and had the original iPhone before that.
Android seems to have acquired 'polish' since I last tried it about a year ago.
My T seem perfect until now (buyed 12/12/12)
The only problem si the poor wifi range.. it's too low compared to my previous LG optimus black.
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No problems here so far...
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I'm currently using Samsung S3. So far I am happy with Samsung S3 for its fast processor, GPS starts fast etc.. Just that it's giving me eye strain perhaps due to prolonged use in the past, now I can hardly surf long in it. I'm thinking of Note 2 for its bigger screen (but I am fearful it will not resolve the eye strain).
Was wondering if Xperia Z would give me less eye strain.. Of course, I don't mind a nicer more solid external look Xperia Z has to offer but seems a big sacrifice of letting go of the following Samsung galaxy's benefits:
1. I am using Wanam lite rom which is excellent with its toggle buttons (allowing wifi, GPS, torchlight etc to be switched on/off easily) and making S3 sleeker. Was wondering if there is any great rom developed for Xperia Z to reduce battery consumption, increases performance and functionality.
2. Read GPS is slacking on Xperia Z. Is this true? I need my GPS to start fast when driving.
S3 GPS starts fast..
3. S3 screen seem scratch resistant relative to Xperia Z..
4. Long battery hour
5. S3 does not heat up like Xperia Z
That said, I am looking for a more solid built smartphone. I have a sony mp3 which I accidentally placed in washing machine along with soiled bedsheets - it survived fine. I was truly impressed...
Anyone who can provide me some feedback on my queries would be deeply appreciated. Thanks!
XZ might resolve your eyestrain problem, it uses different display, with full RBG matrix and it's 440+ ppi with 1080p resolution.
As for the rest of your questions:
1. There are custom roms for XZ already, take a look in Development section.
2. Haven't noticed and problems with GPS, it starts reasonably fast, certainly as fast as my old Note 2 - and Note 2 used the same chip/software as S3 so I'd say no problem here.
3. XZ screen is as scratch resistant as S3, or even more thanks to Dragontail glass. The "problem" is Sony put an anti-shatter film over the glass, and it's the film that get's scracthed, not the screen/glass. Some decide to remove the film, some choose to put a screen protector over it - both ways works fine for me.
4. Battery life is decent - it's not great, but it's not worse than S3's in that matter.
5. They actually heat up almost the same.
If you're after good design and build quality - XZ is a phone for you as long as you can overlook it's minor flaws ( yes, it does have flaws, like every single phone ). Also, Sony's stock firmware is brilliant, it's the first Android phone I haven't rooted and installed CM on it - because frankly, there's no need to do that at the moment.
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XZ might resolve your eyestrain problem, it uses different display, with full RBG matrix and it's 440+ ppi with 1080p resolution.
As for the rest of your questions:
1. There are custom roms for XZ already, take a look in Development section.
2. Haven't noticed and problems with GPS, it starts reasonably fast, certainly as fast as my old Note 2 - and Note 2 used the same chip/software as S3 so I'd say no problem here.
3. XZ screen is as scratch resistant as S3, or even more thanks to Dragontail glass. The "problem" is Sony put an anti-shatter film over the glass, and it's the film that get's scracthed, not the screen/glass. Some decide to remove the film, some choose to put a screen protector over it - both ways works fine for me.
4. Battery life is decent - it's not great, but it's not worse than S3's in that matter.
5. They actually heat up almost the same.
If you're after good design and build quality - XZ is a phone for you as long as you can overlook it's minor flaws ( yes, it does have flaws, like every single phone ). Also, Sony's stock firmware is brilliant, it's the first Android phone I haven't rooted and installed CM on it - because frankly, there's no need to do that at the moment.
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Thanks! :good:
I've gone from a S3 to a Sony Z. There are some small things that I am getting used to but mostly enjoying the change.
Battery has been unbelievable in standby mode. Last night it dropped 1% in 7 hours after disabling most of the bloatware. I haven't started stamina mode even!
Took some time to go from S3s strong contrast screen but now much enjoy the XZs softer more realistic display.
I bought a Zagg back and front protector actually for grip. I don't wanna put a shell on it but with the glass face and back being quite slippery I thought it as a good compromise plus more protection.
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Hi all
Thanks for the helpful feedback. Today, I went to try out both Samsung Note II and Sony XperiaZ and Nexus4. Quite like Sony xperia, however it seems when viewing the same fast and furious trailer on all the phones, Sony Xperia Z fared particularly badly. Nexus 4 and Note II give sharp images but not Sony Xperia Z. I wonder why. It's HD youtube, this one which was tested on all three smartphones. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z7zl_t48CMc Sony Xperia Z supposed to give good display, why is it so bad in this instance?
what do i really want to say is, do Sony such desperate to release new phones ? Sp and now ZR. I'm quite disappointed because ZR have dedicated shutter button and water resistance better than the Z.
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Really? Four phones in 5 months and you're complaining already?
The Z is the ultimate flagship. ZL is a regional alternative. SP is actually much cheaper and targeted at midrange. ZR is for people who want everything the Z has but at a smaller size.
The difference in water resistance between the Z and ZR isn't very big. Most people will also prefer the Z over the ZR in looks too.
If you're scared of updates, the ZR runs on the same hardware and software as the Z and ZL so no need to worry there.
Dont be surprised it's Sony. They release phones quite frequently for high end, Middle range and budget phones every year. And they have been doing this for a while.
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I like that the xperia ZR is waterproof,not water resistance.
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GSMarena claims it being IP58 with a shatterproof glass & Body and released with Android 4.2.
Basically a Quad-core Tank with 2gb ram and a 720p display.
And it's going to be released with 4.2
http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_zr-5421.php
Say to least this is an interesting phone.
But i'd still choose Z over it, not only for the 1080p, but for the sleek design, I have never felt so comfortable holding a phone, especially this size.
Water resistance (IP57) is enough for daily use, the ZR is more for industrial use. I can see a lot of companies ordering this out. not so much for the rest.
No LTE? Shame
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not sure if i should hate sony or love them lol
basically it looks like they listened to what people disliked about the Z, and fixed it
for example, glass back, dedicated camera key etc.
but it makes me regret getting my Z T.T
How much do u think will be the price guys?
New N!geR in towN;P
It's basically an Xperia Z with a 720p OptiContrast screen with an oleophobic coating, IP58 rather than IP57, 4.6" screen and quite a bit thicker. Good for those who want to bring this out to swim with and don't have very deep pockets
According to sonymoblie.com it runs 4.1.
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It's basically an Xperia Z with a 720p OptiContrast screen with an oleophobic coating, IP58 rather than IP57, 4.6" screen and quite a bit thicker. Good for those who want to bring this out to swim with and don't have very deep pockets
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Thicker because of the IP58 certification. No other phone in the world has this
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Thicker because of the IP58 certification. No other high end phone in the world has this
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Fixed.
I don't expect they'll release more close to high-end phone with better features off the flagship phone. Flagship phone should be the first priority to get the updates, get the best of everything. Of course, this is my opinion. Dedicated camera button? there's a mod in the Themes and Apps section of Z which allowed us to snap photo using volume key. IP58 water proof which allows the phone snap underwater photo & videos. Thus, what for they release a well called as flagship smartphone the Z? since there are better waterproof rating phone are releasing, with a dedicated camera buttons. If you guys still remember, Sony said that 4.2.2 update should be coming shortly after launch. Well, they really have their own way in defining "shortly" . I'm pretty satisfied with the design of my Z. I dropped my Z once on the rough floor. The edges on my phone which is light violet in colour get scratched really terribly. My bad for doesn't use a phone case for my phone. I like the design very much without cover or casing.
for conclusion, Sony should not releasing more phones that have better features than the flagship.
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Thicker because of the IP58 certification. No other phone in the world has this
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It might be IP58 but as some of the older more miserable members will tell you this doesn’t mean you should put it anywhere near water. These are the same members whose watches might be water resistance to 20M but they still take it off to go for shower.
LOL, Sony again, make a new phone. What about other phones that need some bug fixing? Why don't they use more time to try to fix bugs etc on previous release and make people happy. For me it sounds like Sony like our complaining and we have to wait for a new firmware/rom release while they are making a new phone, give people time to buy and be happy. What ever we are writing here, they don't care. Where is JB v.4.2.X they have promise? No they just put it on hold and wait for Xperia ZR release.
Xperia Z is a damn good phone, and why can't they use more time to make it perfect??
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LOL, Sony again, make a new phone. What about other phones that need some bug fixing? Why don't they use more time to try to fix bugs etc on previous release and make people happy. For me it sounds like Sony like our complaining and we have to wait for a new firmware/rom release while they are making a new phone, give people time to buy and be happy. What ever we are writing here, they don't care. Where is JB v.4.2.X they have promise? No they just put it on hold and wait for Xperia ZR release.
Xperia Z is a damn good phone, and why can't they use more time to make it perfect??
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You do know Sony isn’t just one bloke in his shed, don’t you?!
There are whole sections of the company who design phones and get them built. Then there are who sections of the company the develop the software and firmware. So I disagree I don’t think Sony have forgotten us I think the 2 guys who work in the software department are just really really lazy, probably spend most of their day on this site.
So we’ll just have to wait as will the XZR owners!
So Sony does it again!! disappointed..! :banghead:
Sent from Sweetheart Xperia Z..
all manufacturers have this strategy... FLAGSHIP PHONE+MIDRANGE PHONES+BUDGETWISEPHONES... right?..
guys any idea about the battery specs on this phone? i am thinking that a good battery capacity will make this phone a super hit!
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Sony have forgotten us I think the 2 guys who work in the software department are just really really lazy, probably spend most of their day on this site.
So we’ll just have to wait as will the XZR owners!
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hehe :good:
Hi there guys,
I have a question. I have owned many Xperia Z series phones, ranging from Xperia Z, Z1, Z2 Z3, Z3 Plus and even Z Ultra. Now I have had a problem with the glass disjoining on all these models. I have had multiple versions of the same ones yet after a few months use they all have the same issue, the back glass will start coming off.
I treat my phones really well, always in a case with screen protection on both front and back and also never dropped etc. However, the only phone that never did this to me was my Z1. I am saying was because now I have noticed the glass on the front is slightly coming up on one corner. Its not so big but it is noticeable from a very close distance (refer to photos).
I wonder if the phone is no longer waterproof and is there anyway of fixing this problem (or do I have to send it to Sony). And can I continue using my phone without it getting worse. I'm currently using it just with screen protection on both sides.
hello friends, you believe that the difference between the Z3 and Z5 + is very large, sony forgotten Z3+ by giving priority to the Z5?? today which would you buy?
i am so disappointed with support from sony to z3+ even i have problems with pc companion who no recognizes my device.
what do you think ?
The difference between the Z3+ and Z5 is large I think. The Z5 has dual heat pipes instead of one and a fingerprint scanner. The dual heat pipes are there to handle the Snapdragon 810's heat and the fingerprint scanner is more of luxury at the moment.
Today, I would buy a Z5 compact. I own a Z3+ and I love the way the phone looks and is designed but would like something smaller.
I have both. I like z4 because it glass back and more delicate bezels. It looks like SONY. Z5 is little disapoint for me. With this ugly bezels and "frozen" back glass it loose typical SONY shine. And z4 beats z5 on Antutu. YES it is only synthetic test but more power is more power.And with the last update z4 overheating is reduced.Z5 have a little better camera. And finally I not use this stupid fingerprint sensors.So I prefer Z4.
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I have both. I like z4 because it glass back and more delicate bezels. It looks like SONY. Z5 is little disapoint for me. With this ugly bezels and "frozen" back glass it loose typical SONY shine. And z4 beats z5 on Antutu. YES it is only synthetic test but more power is more power.And with the last update z4 overheating is reduced.Z5 have a little better camera. And finally I not use this stupid fingerprint sensors.So I prefer Z4.
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Are you sure the z3+ beats z5 on antutu I saw many videos, the z5 beats z3+. My friend the z5 overheating the same way like the z3+
I don't think it's a big enough upgrade, honestly.