Note 4 vs. iPhone 6+ speed test, guess the winner! ;) - Galaxy Note 4 General

Its exynos version if people are wondering.

im not sure if there is some real improvement in tw or it some magic from exynos 5433 o_o

iphone 6 is just a slightly overclocked 5S
wait until Apple puts the new A8X from the ipad air2 into the iphone 6S
interested to see if samsung can keep up the led

Quite similar

Alrealy have iphone 5s and never want any ios device anymore
I dont know why apple not upgrade their device more
1gb ram in 2014 suck

A little bit cheating from 2:30. We all know iOS opens an IMAGE of the minimized app and we have to wait for a couple of time before doing any operation. It reduced a lot of gap between iPhone 6+ and Note 4 in last tests.

hung2900 said:
A little bit cheating from 2:30. We all know iOS opens an IMAGE of the minimized app and we have to wait for a couple of time before doing any operation. It reduced a lot of gap between iPhone 6+ and Note 4 in last tests.
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And it is done in purpose from Apple to look more fluid, but it is the app charging.

hung2900 said:
A little bit cheating from 2:30. We all know iOS opens an IMAGE of the minimized app and we have to wait for a couple of time before doing any operation. It reduced a lot of gap between iPhone 6+ and Note 4 in last tests.
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And he doesn't wait for the iphone to reload netflix! Don't even know how he uploaded the video. It's clear netflix wasn't ready on the second round.
This makes me wonder how many times he runs the same test to achieve the result he wants.
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Just noticed on top of all that, not only he didn't wait for netflix to load on the iPhone, he clicks on a video on the note! while the iphone has only a black screen. So like 2 steps more on the note. I used to trust this channel's speed tests, not so much now.
EDIT: All this was a wrong assumption by me. tmac31 has explained that the iPhone was probably already on video mode.

gabrielgon said:
And he doesn't wait for the iphone to reload netflix! Don't even know how he uploaded the video. It's clear netflix wasn't ready on the second round.
This makes me wonder how many times he runs the same test to achieve the result he wants.
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Just noticed on top of all that, not only he didn't wait for netflix to load on the iPhone, he clicks on a video on the note! while the iphone has only a black screen. So like 2 steps more on the note. I used to trust this channel's speed tests, not so much now.
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Iphone was on video page already note reloaded from beging so he entered video page he didnt cheat on that. But 1 thing i dont know is im using an iphone6 plus with note 4 i cant even open safari and twitter together but he opens like 5-6 apps together it just makes me wonder. It can only happen when you freshly restored after that multitasking is just terrible.

There's no way to tell the iP6+ was on the video screen for Netflix as it just loads a black screen.
Also, my iP5 keeps more apps in memory than my 3gb N3, so I believe the iP6+ would do better.

Are u saying I phone 6 is even slower. ... or the other way round

tmac31 said:
Iphone was on video page already note reloaded from beging so he entered video page he didnt cheat on that.
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Oh, my bad then! Thanks for clarifying that!
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But 1 thing i dont know is im using an iphone6 plus with note 4 i cant even open safari and twitter together but he opens like 5-6 apps together it just makes me wonder. It can only happen when you freshly restored after that multitasking is just terrible.
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I didn't understand what you are trying to say. The multitasking on your iphone is much worse than on his? Is that it?

gabrielgon said:
Oh, my bad then! Thanks for clarifying that!
I didn't understand what you are trying to say. The multitasking on your iphone is much worse than on his? Is that it?
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Yes i have ipad air too same goes for it too.. Safari mostly cant even open 2 tabs.

tmac31 said:
Yes i have ipad air too same goes for it too.. Safari mostly cant even open 2 tabs.
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Thanks. The exynos won by a good margin on the first round and even losing on multitasking, it finished on top. I'm still in love with it :victory:

N4 killed S5 here.

Note 4 Exynos 7 vs Iphone 6 Plus
Pretty smart comparison.
What will happen when Note 4 gets Android 5 and 64bit?Iphone 6 doesn't want to know

SAVVAS. said:
Pretty smart comparison.
What will happen when Note 4 gets Android 5 and 64bit?Iphone 6 doesn't want to know
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Checking another of his videos, this is what you get from his speed test:
LAP 1:
Note 4 (Exynos): 52 sec
iPhone 6 Plus: 56~57 sec
Z3 and M8: 61 sec
LAP 2:
Z3: 23 sec
iPhone 6 Plus: 25~26 sec
M8: 27 sec
Note 4: 40 sec :crying:
Total Time:
iPhone 6 Plus and Note 4: 1:22
Z3: 1:23
M8: 1:28
This tells me that the Exynos Note 4 is the fastest smartphone BUT has the WORST (by far) multitasking as it keeps closing background apps. Anyway to improve that?
I really wish it had 4gb of ram. Every note installment increased its ram, except for the note 4. Anyways, is there a way to improve this?

gabrielgon said:
Checking another of his videos, this is what you get from his speed test:
LAP 1:
Note 4 (Exynos): 52 sec
iPhone 6 Plus: 56~57 sec
Z3 and M8: 61 sec
LAP 2:
Z3: 23 sec
iPhone 6 Plus: 25~26 sec
M8: 27 sec
Note 4: 40 sec :crying:
Total Time:
iPhone 6 Plus and Note 4: 1:22
Z3: 1:23
M8: 1:28
This tells me that the Exynos Note 4 is the fastest smartphone BUT has the WORST (by far) multitasking as it keeps closing background apps. Anyway to improve that?
I really wish it had 4gb of ram. Every note installment increased its ram, except for the note 4. Anyways, is there a way to improve this?
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You can always debloat a lot of Samsung stuff in the phone and use greenify for some apps.

gabrielgon said:
Checking another of his videos, this is what you get from his speed test:
LAP 1:
Note 4 (Exynos): 52 sec
iPhone 6 Plus: 56~57 sec
Z3 and M8: 61 sec
LAP 2:
Z3: 23 sec
iPhone 6 Plus: 25~26 sec
M8: 27 sec
Note 4: 40 sec :crying:
Total Time:
iPhone 6 Plus and Note 4: 1:22
Z3: 1:23
M8: 1:28
This tells me that the Exynos Note 4 is the fastest smartphone BUT has the WORST (by far) multitasking as it keeps closing background apps. Anyway to improve that?
I really wish it had 4gb of ram. Every note installment increased its ram, except for the note 4. Anyways, is there a way to improve this?
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Well touchwiz has alot of stuff in background. And when you check ram usage you can see alot of things cached for speed. Im using note 4 for 1 week never had ram issue. 1gb ram pretty much free whole time more than alot of people need.
And i should add note 4 browser use like 400mb ram you can change it with another.

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Finally got the N5 to lag

As the title says....I wasn't trying to overload the phone, but while playing TD5 I actually got it to lag. Normally, the game doesn't use much battery, but anyone familiar with the game after level 80 or so it gets pretty intense. I put the game on fast forward mode too and it got pretty laggy. Would be pretty interesting to use this game as a benchmark. Here's a screenshot: http://imgur.com/b2qrQpn
It might be hard to tell, but there was A LOT of frame droppings. Which doesn't really surprise me. Anyway, just thought I would share.
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As the title says....I wasn't trying to overload the phone, but while playing TD5 I actually got it to lag. Normally, the game doesn't use much battery, but anyone familiar with the game after level 80 or so it gets pretty intense. I put the game on fast forward mode too and it got pretty laggy. Would be pretty interesting to use this game as a benchmark. Here's a screenshot: http://imgur.com/b2qrQpn
It might be hard to tell, but there was A LOT of frame droppings. Which doesn't really surprise me. Anyway, just thought I would share.
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interesting. have you used other devices with this game? how does it compare? you'd think that the nexus 5 with it's cpu/gpu being pretty top of the line would not have problems with anything. but that is a lot going on at once.
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interesting. have you used other devices with this game? how does it compare? you'd think that the nexus 5 with it's cpu/gpu being pretty top of the line would not have problems with anything. but that is a lot going on at once.
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Asphalt 8 lags no problem.. Though it could be the engine. While the game looks pretty I get the feeling the game's engine isn't properly optimized.
mbazdell said:
Asphalt 8 lags no problem.. Though it could be the engine. While the game looks pretty I get the feeling the game's engine isn't properly optimized.
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i've yet to try any graphic intense games on my Nexus 5. i would hope that any serious lag would come down to the app coding and not the device.
I'm pretty sure all this lag is due to the aggressive thermal throttling from lg.
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I'm pretty sure all this lag is due to the aggressive thermal throttling from lg.
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but i thought the throttling was way less than what was found on the Nexus 4. i guess we can use an app to see what happens during the lag.
found an article about throttling on the Nexus 5 in case anyone was interested. http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2013/11/when-benchmarks-arent-enough-cpu-performance-in-the-nexus-5/
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interesting. have you used other devices with this game? how does it compare? you'd think that the nexus 5 with it's cpu/gpu being pretty top of the line would not have problems with anything. but that is a lot going on at once.
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The only other device that I have tried this with is the 2013 Nexus 7. I don't think I've gotten to this part but whenever I do I will let you know. I can't recall if it lagged before.
mbazdell said:
Asphalt 8 lags no problem.. Though it could be the engine. While the game looks pretty I get the feeling the game's engine isn't properly optimized.
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Yeah, Asphalt 8 runs for me with no problem either. I agree with the optimization. I'm going to try to get to this point on my Nexus 7 2013. Although the specs on that are lower.
Ive gotten the nexus 5 to lag substantially while playing FIFA 14, both on Stock and with a Custom ROM and trinity kernel.
The lag was less on the custom ROM and trinity kernel then it was on stock...
why do u guys think there is a lag on the nexus 5, ive played fifa so many times on the iphone 5 and never had a single stutter from it.
Edit: BTW the game becomes really choppy when there is rain in the game, you pretty much cant play the game it gets that bad.
It lags a ton as well on the later levels in survivor mode on PvZ2. Anything after level 10 or so and the amount of zombies kills the fps. The phone also gets uncomfortably hot.
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fruitsalt said:
Ive gotten the nexus 5 to lag substantially while playing FIFA 14, both on Stock and with a Custom ROM and trinity kernel.
The lag was less on the custom ROM and trinity kernel then it was on stock...
why do u guys think there is a lag on the nexus 5, ive played fifa so many times on the iphone 5 and never had a single stutter from it.
Edit: BTW the game becomes really choppy when there is rain in the game, you pretty much cant play the game it gets that bad.
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iOS users expect a good experience.
I get the feel they didn't even try on Android for FIFA.
rancur3p1c said:
iOS users expect a good experience.
I get the feel they didn't even try on Android for FIFA.
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Isn't iPhone the current benchmark to beat. I understand lack of functionality and customization features compared to android but every phone company wants to best the iPhone user experience and fluidity
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fruitsalt said:
Isn't iPhone the current benchmark to beat. I understand lack of functionality and customization features compared to android but every phone company wants to best the iPhone user experience and fluidity
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Lately Apple has gone downhill. I've got myself the latest iPad mini which uses the same A7 processor found in the iPad Air.
There is lag and plenty of it. I've tried Dead Trigger 2 and Bastion and both of the them suffer from lag and the odd stutter every now and then.
And what's even more funny is now theres plenty of fragmentation on iOS. Read the reviews on some of the graphic intensive games. Bugs and crashes galore on some of the slightly older hardware. Plus on the description you will have big captions like " DO NOT BUY IF YOU HAVE THE...." And " DOES NOT WORK ON THE..."
Apple is no longer the benchmark when it comes to games now.
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avocco said:
Lately Apple has gone downhill. I've got myself the latest iPad mini which uses the same A7 processor found in the iPad Air.
There is lag and plenty of it. I've tried Dead Trigger 2 and Bastion and both of the them suffer from lag and the odd stutter every now and then.
And what's even more funny is now theres plenty of fragmentation on iOS. Read the reviews on some of the graphic intensive games. Bugs and crashes galore on some of the slightly older hardware. Plus on the description you will have big captions like " DO NOT BUY IF YOU HAVE THE...." And " DOES NOT WORK ON THE..."
Apple is no longer the benchmark when it comes to games now.
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I kinda agree with your post about apple going downhill. But it still is the benchmark device to beat, its wobbling but hasnt been dethroned just yet. Ios7 is buggy and all the apps have not been optimized for it yet. Same can be said about optimization on KitKat.
The games that iPhone can play with minimum to no stutter are not even playable or are not even available for android.
Fragmentation wise, iPhone has gotten a bit fragmented but you also have to realize the os and the new games are very graphic intensive. Older hardware can not possibly run them properly such as games for ps4 won't ever run on the ps1 or even the ps2, we can't expect current games and os to run on devices older then 2 years. People give android a bad name for fragmentation but it really isn't that bad when u take into account the requirements for the latest software. I do not expect the same software to run perfectly on my nexus 5 and galaxy nexus. True a two year old device is not that old but in technological terms 2 years is more then a decade.
I love android and iOS the same, each has its advantages and disadvantages. My personal device is iOS and work is android, each serves its purpose perfectly.
My only qualm with android is as follows: a device such as the nexus 5 with almost twice the processing power as an iPhone 5, double the number of cores, and twice the memory still can't keep up with the iPhone.
Thats like having a ferrari but still not being able to keep up with a bmw or in this case it would more be like android is a tuned import with all the latest and greatest updates but still cant come close to a stock luxury exotic ( i know the price difference between the two this is just an example). Google and android oems need to work on making android work faster and more fluid on lower specs then just putting in the most ram and the fastest processor, what's the point of having those if it still gets beat by a device with half its specs. if apple introduces a 2.3Ghz quad core phone with 2gb of ram that would be game over.
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I have to disagree with the iPhone being the phone to beat.... Samsung has beaten apple and LG with the nexus 5 and G2 put out two amazing devices that are beyond apples latest and greatest. I am sorry but the iPhone 5s and other iPhones and including the iPads have some pretty noticeable lag and stutters. As for android the improvement has been amazingly awesome android used to be the extremely laggy and stuttered for everything. Now it's pretty much ios fluid. I just switched from the iPhone 5s to the note 3 after a test run to see if I would like ios again and ios7 stutters a lot. To me the note 3 feels more fluid and yes touchwiz is very heavy and hard to run
The lag is a software limitation, not at all hardware related.
Well my experience with bloons TD5 is quite good on N5. I get to about lvl 100 after that it starts to lag a bit more and more with following levels. But in my opinion this is game itself. My friend with galaxy S3 gets to lvl 115-120 before becomes almost unplayable, other folks with N4 gets to 120-125 lvl before it gets unplayable. I get to about lvl 130 before it gets the same as S3 or N4 performance (0.5-2 FPS)
All in all it's bloons TD5 fault, not hardware, game engine itself is at fault.
fruitsalt said:
Isn't iPhone the current benchmark to beat. I understand lack of functionality and customization features compared to android but every phone company wants to best the iPhone user experience and fluidity
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this is EA we're talking about. EA doesn't care about "user experience" only "will it sell" and "is it 90% functional"
rancur3p1c said:
this is EA we're talking about. EA doesn't care about "user experience" only "will it sell" and "is it 90% functional"
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90%? lol I think you're overestimating EA...I'm pretty sure they're satisfied with 60%, judging by every EA produced or sponsored game I've played in the past 5 years. It's a horrible company that needs to be shut down.
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I have to disagree with the iPhone being the phone to beat.... Samsung has beaten apple and LG with the nexus 5 and G2 put out two amazing devices that are beyond apples latest and greatest. I am sorry but the iPhone 5s and other iPhones and including the iPads have some pretty noticeable lag and stutters. As for android the improvement has been amazingly awesome android used to be the extremely laggy and stuttered for everything. Now it's pretty much ios fluid. I just switched from the iPhone 5s to the note 3 after a test run to see if I would like ios again and ios7 stutters a lot. To me the note 3 feels more fluid and yes touchwiz is very heavy and hard to run
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I know Samsung and LG have introduced amazing devices but thats still on paper. I'm not comparing them based on reviews or watching videos online, I own both the nexus 5 and the iphone 5s. Android has gotten a lot better from its laggy days and is one hell of a responsive OS with functionality to boot. That being said I can still see the nexus 5 lag and havent been able to make the iphone 5s lag at all, i have had a few apps just crash on me randomly but thats about it.
Everything on the iphone is more fluid then on android. Most of it has to do with apps installed, most developers dont really put in as much time into android as they do on IOS. The specs on the new android devices are amazing running quad core cpus with 2 gb of RAM but in the end what use is all that power when the phone still lags. For instance just a few minutes ago i got a call on the nexus and when the call ended the phone just got stuck on the call screen unresponsive for 30-40 seconds.
If we compare just the hardware then there really is no competition for current android phones, apple has not put out anything with those kinda specs. But if we want to see which OS runs better shouldnt it be on the same kind of hardware. The iphone 5 runs a Dual-Core processor and for me it handles iOS7 perfectly without a lag, i would like to see how a galaxy s2 with a Dual-Core processor would handle kitkat. That would be comparing similar hardware on the latest OS's by each company.
I know you would say why not the s3 and the s4, because they run on quad-core processors. I know this kinda got winded but what im trying to say is that an iphone 5 with half the specs of a current android device performs on par and at times better then those devices then how would android fare if iphone gets a quad-core processor, there is a lot to be said about each OS's optimization based on just the specs.

snapdragon 805 support.....

hi guys, what you think about the snapdragon version now that the nexus 6 has it...i mean is it better to get the s805 over the exynos....because the nexus is like the android benchmark phone ( not performance but support)...so maybe apps developers will support this version more....what you think...
We will have to wait and see the first Snapdragon 805 phone is the Galaxy Note 4 and so far on AT&T and T-Mobile, it's a beast. If your a diehard mobile gamer, there will be lag on GTA: San Andreas on Max Graphics. However other games like modern combat 5 play awesome.
no i am not a gamer...i just want the apps to run smoothly...even facebook stutter on my S4...the apps are not optimized that good....
We lucked out these phones are similarly speced and feel that we will benefit from it.
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yeah, there is a problem, now there is a reason to buy each one of the versions, the exynos is better right now, but in the future the s805 will get better support.....
Lol let the CM come. Just a few weeks(even days or hours ). At that point Sd805 will definitely be a winner with all the mods and add-ons. It has always been that way
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Lol let the CM come. Just a few weeks(even days or hours ). At that point Sd805 will definitely be a winner with all the mods and add-ons. It has always been that way
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If you gonna use cm it means you dont really need note 4 features just go for nexus 6 it will be better with custom roms anyway.
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hajyihia said:
no i am not a gamer...i just want the apps to run smoothly...even facebook stutter on my S4...the apps are not optimized that good....
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The dont really optimize for a soc. Like some of the games always lagged on quallcomm devices. And scrolling stutter always happen art runtime gonna fix that probably or i always fixed it with xuimod or a better governer.
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If you gonna use cm it means you dont really need note 4 features just go for nexus 6 it will be better with custom roms anyway.
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The dont really optimize for a soc. Like some of the games always lagged on quallcomm devices. And scrolling stutter always happen art runtime gonna fix that probably or i always fixed it with xuimod or a better governer.
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Chrome and Facebook stutters often for me too. Running ART on 805. Does Dalvik help? Any solutions?
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If you gonna use cm it means you dont really need note 4 features just go for nexus 6 it will be better with custom roms anyway.
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Agreed. If I were you, I'd return the note ASAP and wait just a couple more weeks for that sexy nexy. You'll save yourself a lot of time and hassle waiting for stable updates, gain access to TONS of mods, and save a little green along the way.
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If you gonna use cm it means you dont really need note 4 features just go for nexus 6 it will be better with custom roms anyway.
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I'd keep the Note if I were you.
The Note 4 Snapdragon probably won't be as good in terms of support as the Nexus 6, but it will be more than good enough I'd guess, based on the volume of support the Note 3 Snapdragon variant got. Plus there's some indication that this Nexus 6, owing to its higher price and phablet size might not get the popularity that the previous generation of Nexus phones got. It'll still be better support wise, but the price advantage the Nexus had is mostly gone.
Hardware wise, I don't think the AMOLED on the Nexus will be as good as the AMOLED on this phone (will wait for reviews). We should wait for reviews I think. My guess though is that the camera, screen, and a few other features will likely be better on the Note, plus it has an S-Pen. The other issue is a lack of a removable battery and expandable storage, so if you are like me and keep a lot of FLAC, you'll have to buy the higher end version (eroding the Nexus price advantage even more).
Keep the Note 4, wait for the Nexus 6 reviews, and go to a store to play around with a Nexus after it comes out.

[Q] Change system UI frames per second?

Is there a way to have the system run at 60FPS instead of 30FPS?
u mean run 64bit instead of 32bit ?
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Is there a way to have the system run at 60FPS instead of 30FPS?
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What are you looking to gain?
BAD ASS NOTE 4
ayeitschris said:
u mean run 64bit instead of 32bit ?
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No. Frames per second.
BACARDILIMON said:
What are you looking to gain?
BAD ASS NOTE 4
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A smooth UI experience similar to an iPhone or the Nexus 6. 30 FPS is incredibly choppy and we have devices more than powerful enough to handle a consistent 60FPS.
Khyrdantai said:
A smooth UI experience similar to an iPhone or the Nexus 6. 30 FPS is incredibly choppy and we have devices more than powerful enough to handle a consistent 60FPS.
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If you have choppy then something else is going on. I am smooth as butter. Can't compare to iPhone cause it not realistic. If you choppy you have to dig deep and see what is causing it for you.
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try using art runtime instead of dalvik. ART runs the system more natively.
Just ran a test on stock. You sure you not seeing things?
BAD ASS NOTE 4
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Just ran a test on stock. You sure you not seeing things?
BAD ASS NOTE 4
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I forgot to mention that my usage was in different stores, such as T-Mobile and Best Buy, but both had the same low framerate compared to my Nexus 6. I'm wondering now if their devices were put into a power-saving mode or something. I'll have to look into this more.
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I forgot to mention that my usage was in different stores, such as T-Mobile and Best Buy, but both had the same FPS compared to my Nexus 6. I'm wondering now if their devices were put into a power-saving mode or something. I'll have to look into this more.
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Oh I was about to say something really wrong with your phone then. Lol. My boy borrow my phone and is now looking to return his nexus 6 . thinks his phone to plain lol. I very happy with this device and plan on staying stock.
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BACARDILIMON said:
Oh I was about to say something really wrong with your phone then. Lol. My boy borrow my phone and is now looking to return his nexus 6 . thinks his phone to plain lol. I very happy with this device and plan on staying stock.
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I plan on doing the same! I've had the Nexus 6 since it came out and I feel like it's missing so much potential. Also the Note 4's screen is so much better with color and brightness!

Note 4 SD 805 Disappointing Gaming Performance

Hello everyone
After swapping my note 3 with note 4, I was amazed with the snappiness of the Note 4 during general tasks and battery life. However, things aren't that smooth while gaming.. it seems as if after 10 mins of gameplay, graphics stutter and the game starts to lag, even in less graphic intensive games.. is it the same with everyone? What about the Exynos variants? Overall, I would rank the note 4 a solid 8.5/10, deducting 1.5 due to poor graphical performance..
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Sounds like the soc clocking down.
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my note 4 is awsome and i dont feel any lag like you do mate
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Hello everyone
After swapping my note 3 with note 4, I was amazed with the snappiness of the Note 4 during general tasks and battery life. However, things aren't that smooth while gaming.. it seems as if after 10 mins of gameplay, graphics stutter and the game starts to lag, even in less graphic intensive games.. is it the same with everyone? What about the Exynos variants? Overall, I would rank the note 4 a solid 8.5/10, deducting 1.5 due to poor graphical performance..
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hi,
Next time you are gaming etc. etc and experience symptoms( as described by you above) check your battery temperature. It could be some sort of "throttling" I have seen quite a few post in forum referring to similar. Read up about Samsung DVFS throttling" when devices gets warm. resulting in games stuttering, lagging etc. etc
good luck
The Exynos performs better while gaming.
I play:
Asphalt Overdrive
Beach Buggy Racing and Blitz
As well as Pinball Pro
Haven't noticed any slowdown or issue with graphics, then again I play for 30mins at most, most times I do a quick 10-15min session and I'm bored.
I played The Room 2 for like 1h+ and while in game pulling down the notification bar lagged as hell...my battery temperature was around 38 while gaming.I have the snapdragon model.
Rayman Fiesta Run makes my Exynos hot and noticable slow down performance. Funny that Nexus 7 2012 runs this game as much as I want without any performance dropdown.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ubisoft.rayman.fiestarun
Didn't noticed the same reaction on Riptide GP 2 though.
Snapdragon here, nothing, everything is smooth and fast, i already have 14 hours of gameplay time with Galaxy on FIRE2 HD which is pretty intense, also try Stranger, its the most intense graphical game, and everything on highest the note 4 has lower fps, even then after longer playing everything is okey.
I can second this. Rayman Fiesta starts to lag after a while...very disappointing. SnapDragon model here.
i have exynos and every thing is smooth
I have Canadian SM-N910W8 with SD805 it runs games fast even with power savings on.
It's not hard to understand, snapdragon 800+1080p > snapdragon 805+2k for gaming performance (and almost everything).
I have Note 3 snap800 and Note 4 snap 805... and I can honestly say that note 3 is way better for gaming.
Check some gaming YouTube video, this also happens between Nexus 6 and 5.
That's quite sad because Samsung could have made the Best device ever if It choosed a laser autofocus instead of the UV/HRsensor, and sticked with 1080p+ snap 805 combo... really It's like if our SOC have to push TWO 1080p phones (no kidding... 2k have double pixels).
PPL think that the improved visual quality is given by the improved resolution... that's 100% wrong.... The details are the same (and I see amazingly well at very close distances), the true benefits are given by the damn good color accuracy.
BTW note 3 with leaked Lollipop is waaaaay faster in everything than Note4...
If lollipop doesn't make note 4 way faster I'm going to sell this piece of marketing victim and stick with the Note 3.
i using note 3 snap with lollipop and note 4 H with exynos
note gaming performance very very better !
i dont know what note 4 snap on gaming and fps on heavy game !
but exynos version note 4 is better on gaming and power on 2k resolution
im happy for this buying !
note 3 just snap
note 4 just exynos
sometimes its not about the phone, but lazy developers..
as we know rayman is developed by ubisoft and everyone in gaming world knows how terrible that company is
Gamebench v1.3 analysis of Asphalt 8 game play - Device: Note 4 Exynos
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=58709458&postcount=2020
To the people talking about Rayman Fiesta, on my Exynos Note 4 it goes into slow motion if under 60fps, and I'm not talking about skipping frames, I'm talking about slow motion, when it gets close to 40 fps the game is very sloooow. I had to run it in 720p to keep it at 60fps all the time so it wouldn't slow down.
What I mean by this is, at least for me, the game runs very well even on 1440p, always above 30fps but goes into slow motion instead of skipping frames because the devs are stupid. This also happens to me with Sky Force.
So there are no known permanent solution for the lag and stuttering SD805 aka Note4? Or even a achievement in performance without rooting and devoting our life to adjust and testing?
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To the people talking about Rayman Fiesta, on my Exynos Note 4 it goes into slow motion if under 60fps, and I'm not talking about skipping frames, I'm talking about slow motion, when it gets close to 40 fps the game is very sloooow. I had to run it in 720p to keep it at 60fps all the time so it wouldn't slow down.
What I mean by this is, at least for me, the game runs very well even on 1440p, always above 30fps but goes into slow motion instead of skipping frames because the devs are stupid. This also happens to me with Sky Force.
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I've never had sky force slow down...ever. snapdragon 805 running FireKat rom.
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AngryDonutGuy said:
So there are no known permanent solution for the lag and stuttering SD805 aka Note4? Or even a achievement in performance without rooting and devoting our life to adjust and testing?
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Get Samsung's gaming app, Game Tuner, no root required, it will allow you to adjust the resolution, FPS and Brightness of all your games.
My N910F has been running Need For Speed No Limits, Asphalt 8 and GT Racing 2 without a hiccup.
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Note 4 to get s6 TouchWiz

Hi guys, thought you'd be interested in the following article
http://www.youmobile.org/blogs/entr...id-5-1-update-in-H1-2015#.VRbusagHzGc.twitter
Fingers crossed for Q2/Q3!
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I tried s6 in store. There isnt much difference with note 4 lollipop. There is some small changes could be good for note 4 too. Like some buttons moved down tabs button on browser and all buttons in gallery etc.
In performance i saw no difference even s6 had stutters on animations. And they say camera launch very fast but it was pretty same with my exynos note 4.in night mode s6 is faster it was all.
And there is no multitasking button lag. Note 4 still has initial 0.5 sec delay if its your 1st press for while but later than if you keep spamming on both it was same speed app switches was faster on note 4.
And it was heating alot.(it wasnt on charge) dunno but it didnt feel very fast it was nearly identical with my exynos note 4.
tmac31 said:
I tried s6 in store. There isnt much difference with note 4 lollipop. There is some small changes could be good for note 4 too. Like some buttons moved down tabs button on browser and all buttons in gallery etc.
In performance i saw no difference even s6 had stutters on animations. And they say camera launch very fast but it was pretty same with my exynos note 4.in night mode s6 is faster it was all.
And there is no multitasking button lag. Note 4 still has initial 0.5 sec delay if its your 1st press for while but later than if you keep spamming on both it was same speed app switches was faster on note 4.
And it was heating alot.(it wasnt on charge) dunno but it didnt feel very fast it was nearly identical with my exynos note 4.
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I guess it all depends on what apps are running already in the background. I've found on my Note 4 that a number of apps auto restart in the background which slows down the CPU performance. Sadly the only way to control apps restarting or refreshing in the background is to root and if you've just bought your phone, you're unlikely to want to root your phone and void the warranty.
I'm just hoping for a smoother feel. The new s6 TouchWiz was tested on the snapdragon chip but Samsung used their own chip like you said. This is a little worrying in respect of all previous models with snapdragon chips. Just have to wait and see I guess.
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leedsnyc said:
I guess it all depends on what apps are running already in the background. I've found on my Note 4 that a number of apps auto restart in the background which slows down the CPU performance. Sadly the only way to control apps restarting or refreshing in the background is to root and if you've just bought your phone, you're unlikely to want to root your phone and void the warranty.
I'm just hoping for a smoother feel. The new s6 TouchWiz was tested on the snapdragon chip but Samsung used their own chip like you said. This is a little worrying in respect of all previous models with snapdragon chips. Just have to wait and see I guess.
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Background apps there for s6 too you cant avoid it. I dont see any slowdowns on my exynos note 4 lollipop. Dont expect alot of difference if you dont like current lollipop on note 4. Cuz s6 and note 4 was very similar on my test.
The animations on the S6 are smoother and better looking overall I don't get how people can't see them lol...From my point of view it does look really fast and better than the current Lollipop build on our Note 4 devices.Let's hope we get the new UI it would really benefit the note 4.
Ashatar said:
The animations on the S6 are smoother and better looking overall I don't get how people can't see them lol...From my point of view it does look really fast and better than the current Lollipop build on our Note 4 devices.Let's hope we get the new UI it would really benefit the note 4.
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Well they are not, even it has animation stutters. Better looking maybe but definetly not smoother tried on like 4 different phones all had stutters generally. It could be cuz pre relaese software its ok but how do you have the idea its faster and smoother while its definetly not atm atleast not from exynos note 4.
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Well they are not, even it has animation stutters. Better looking maybe but definetly not smoother tried on like 4 different phones all had stutters generally. It could be cuz pre relaese software its ok but how do you have the idea its faster and smoother while its definetly not atm atleast not from exynos note 4.
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I looked at some review of the phone and it looked smooth, I agree that I did see some small stutter but it isn't that noticeable.I am not saying that my note 4 SD isn't smooth but the S6 looks smoother to me.Also look at how the dialer opens fast as well as contacts and some other stock apps.
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I looked at some review of the phone and it looked smooth as hell.I am not sating that my note 4 SD isn't smooth but the S6 looks smoother to me.
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i dont know lollipop on sd but exynos note 4 was alot smoother on kitkat. dunno how is the difference now but s6 and exynos note on lollipop is very very similar on performace atleast for now. i dunno vids i tried myself. dialer and contacts were same loads under 0.5 sec generally for both so its instant mostly
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i dont know lollipop on sd but exynos note 4 was alot smoother on kitkat. dunno how is the difference now but s6 and exynos note on lollipop is very very similar on performace atleast for now. i dunno vids i tried myself. dialer and contacts were same loads under 0.5 sec generally for both so its instant mostly
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Well maybe because you have Exynos.Still, although I am satisfied with the performance of my note 4, I would like the new UI on it.
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Well maybe it has something because you have Exynos.Still, although I am satisfied with the performance of my note 4, I would like the new UI on it.
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yes cuz it definetly fits better on big screen. ui looking is similar but animations abit different. it will come eventualy but they should make note 4 lolipop perfect 1st.
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yes cuz it definetly fits better on big screen. ui looking is similar but animations abit different. it will come eventualy but they should make note 4 lolipop perfect 1st.
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It's not the fact that I don't like lollipop on the Note 4, clearly we have to wait for the final release of 5.0.1 or even 5.0.2. The current versions are test versions and are not final. When the full roll out comes for the Note 4, we'll get a better comparison. Also the two phones use different chips so if you've got an exynos Note 4 then you have a better comparison to the s6 in terms of being in a level playing field. The hope is that the release of 5.1 on the Note 4 in Q2/Q3 will fix or reduce the stutter when opening apps.
One particular one I find takes a while is YouTube. On the s6, it opens up a lot faster.
Watch this YouTube video. Granted it's comparison of s5 vs s6 but the Note 4 lollipop vs s6 lollipop will be up soon over the next few months once the s6 is released and the Note 4 has its lollipop release. The video shows the lag on the s5, which is almost certainly a snapdragon version, against the exynos s6.
https://youtu.be/K4__rbWOGB4
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I also noticed that the S^ has a nice lock animation...I am really hopping that those unofficial rumors are true.
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It's not the fact that I don't like lollipop on the Note 4, clearly we have to wait for the final release of 5.0.1 or even 5.0.2. The current versions are test versions and are not final. When the full roll out comes for the Note 4, we'll get a better comparison. Also the two phones use different chips so if you've got an exynos Note 4 then you have a better comparison to the s6 in terms of being in a level playing field. The hope is that the release of 5.1 on the Note 4 in Q2/Q3 will fix or reduce the stutter when opening apps.
One particular one I find takes a while is YouTube. On the s6, it opens up a lot faster.
Watch this YouTube video. Granted it's comparison of s5 vs s6 but the Note 4 lollipop vs s6 lollipop will be up soon over the next few months once the s6 is released and the Note 4 has its lollipop release. The video shows the lag on the s5, which is almost certainly a snapdragon version, against the exynos s6.
https://youtu.be/K4__rbWOGB4
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youtube is broken by itself dont really say alot. but no doubt its faster than s5 there is a huge cpu difference. yes exynos note 4 is better rival for it. my note edge didnt get lollipop yet so i cant do a fair comparison but note 4 exynos on lollipop is very smooth no stutter etc.. and i think rollout for 910c started too its almost done.
snapdragon versions could need 5.1 update which fixed alot of performance problems for nexus 6 too. but we will see.
All I want is the 5x5 for stock ...
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