Going to buy galaxy note 4. Second time that we get screw by motorola
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cooljeremy84 said:
Going to buy galaxy note 4. Second time that we get screw by motorola
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Second time that we get screwed by Motorola? have you checked the update page or do you have unreported official news from within Moto that says that the update will never happen. No official news has been released saying that the update will not happen and that we have been bent over a table and screwed, so until said news is released, anyone who actually owns this device and claims or states things like you just did is purely rumor or speculation unless you have Motorola credentials to back it up.
Have fun with your Note 4 and enjoy the probable lock down of the system Chainfire predicted months ago.
Furthermore, we already have a goodbye thread created here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2611939
Admins, please close this duplicate thread.
So i have to wait because you said so. (MOD EDIT). If you don't like what I write , don't read it. That is call freedom.
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Another thing, I buy the device that I want. I don't remember asking YOU about the note 4. I just shared what I felt.
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cooljeremy84 said:
So i have to wait because you said so. Two words for ya (MOD EDIT). If you don't like what I write , don't read it. That is call freedom.
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I do not have Motorola credentials, so I am not telling you what to do. I am simply offering a bit of advice based off of what we are looking at. KK has not been shot down officially, yet ppl are jumping ship as if the world depended on it. LP will have some issues on new devices per Chainfire's analysis.
In addition to advice based off of things that myself and many others have been looking at for quite some time, I have to point out that your stance about me being controlling and giving me the whole freedom of speech argument is very much off base, esp since I'm someone who wears a uniform.
As stated above. There is a thread for "goodbyes"
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Motorola just released the source code for the Droid 3 on Sourceforge.
Source code
I was just going to start a thread on this edgan
Pardon my French but...
**** YEAH!
So does source mean we just don't have to find an exploit, and can create compatible, rootable ROMs without cracking the official one? Or does it mean we can get root, too?
It means neither. You'd still need signed keys to flash anything created from the released source code.
However, if there are any exploits, having the source might assist in finding them.
Hell yes!
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What exactly what is the source code
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saintlikesniper said:
What exactly what is the source code
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The last eight minutes of a memory.
idkwhothatis123 said:
The last eight minutes of a memory.
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Hahah it blew up.... let's do it again!
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I'm desperate for root haha, but the d3 is still an awesome phone w/o it
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Quite an interesting move by Motorola, wonder what their motivation was.
eXecuter.bin said:
Quite an interesting move by Motorola, wonder what their motivation was.
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Every single Android device must have the source code released. It's part of the AOSP license, these companies can't use Android without releasing this code.
Yay!
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Yeah I heard that the source code wont help much either.
BUT(not related to this)
I think we have a bigger chance of getting an official sbf now. Reason being is that there is an update that is being pushed to test and dev devices (I think it's 5.6.960 or something), hopefully somewhere between this road a moto employee or tester can give back to the community haha
So a few things of note, and I wanted to articulate this right, those of you in the IRC have heard this rambling.
1) Watchdog. Do NOT, under ANY CIRCUMSTANCES try to kill a Kernel process. That's another sure-fire way to trip the eFuse, and brick your phone, save you have a SMD compatible JTAG for the FPGA. (If that last part went over your head, DEFINITELY do not attempt)
2) Kernel file "pause_on_oops". If a kernel module is improperly loaded, modified, or unloaded, it will cause a lot of wonky stuff to happen in the kernel. On any kernel panic, the kernel halts instead of dropping to a debugger. It also sets a few flags that stop the kernel from booting, and that in turn sets more flags that stop booting, ad nauseum.
This still leaves bugs and stuff to explore. Race conditions, buffer overflows and the likes are still likely targets.
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Have to agree on that, i'm not too fussed tbo but i'd like to fix the blue camera tint.
-smc
God speed developers! I thank you all for your time, effort and patience. Destination is almost on the horizon. BEAST IT!
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Dominicusx said:
God speed developers! I thank you all for your time, effort and patience. Destination is almost on the horizon. BEAST IT!
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I second this. Thank you, devs. I am in my undergrad program for IT/web development, so I am not completely dumb when it comes to IT/programming, but you guys make me feel like a dumb ass! I commend you for your efforts as well as your massive brains!
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If you guys want join the irc channel #krazyk. We can all learn something new
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Obviously, having source code once we root will be of enormous help in developing quality kernels and ROMs (like cyanogenmod!), but won't help rooting right now. All the doors are locked, but now we know who lives inside
So speaking of race conditions, is there any point to exploring the bootloader-to-recovery race condition (via messing with the sdcard slot) that allowed the Droid Incredible to be root (even before Unrevoked figured out a general HTC exploit kit), or are we talking apples to oranges?
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The Motorola website will be down for at least a month. Reason? Moto feels that they need to take a step back and reframe their company, brand,and devices.
There are is are date that haven't been confirmed on the site but if thus is true, then this is a big step for Motorola.
Source : http://www.behance.net/gallery/Goodbye-MOTO-exploration/9451927
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This is fake please dont believe
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Actually maybe it is. Their libertyville complex is up for sale online and they plan on relocating their headquarters so they might have to go dark for a while..
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ayo234 said:
The Motorola website will be down for at least a month. Reason? Moto feels that they need to take a step back and reframe their company, brand,and devices.
There are is are date that haven't been confirmed on the site but if thus is true, then this is a big step for Motorola.
Source : http://www.behance.net/gallery/Goodbye-MOTO-exploration/9451927
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maybe one month of disappear will make a better moto.
nokia ang moto accompanied me many years, do not want to see them close down.......
hala nokia and moto!
In a perfect world they're having a 3 month, radio silent lock-in with the entire Android team at Google, and then they'll unveil a new line of native Moto Nexus devices, complete with factory unlocked BLs & open-source kernels pushed directly to CM, PA & AOKP. They'll make S4's look like StarTACs.
Maybe I'm setting my hopes too high. :]
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EcHoFiiVe said:
Actually maybe it is. Their libertyville complex is up for sale online and they plan on relocating their headquarters so they might have to go dark for a while..
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They are moving to the Merchandise Mart next year. Thank god. I may still be working at Motorola if I didn't have to commute to Libertyville everyday.
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They are moving to the Merchandise Mart next year. Thank god. I may still be working at Motorola if I didn't have to commute to Libertyville everyday.
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I live two minutes away
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EcHoFiiVe said:
I live two minutes away
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I don't think it would be a bad area to live, but it wasn't what I wanted to do as a 20-something. The move to Chicago should be great for Motorola to attract better talent right out of college. Why would a top engineer choose Libertyville over the Bay Area or NYC? The only real reason is that it is a lower cost of living. I believe that is one of the biggest reasons for Motorola's recent troubles. They had a hard time attracting the right people.
They even saw this themselves. Back in 2004 (I think?), they opened MotoCityUSA downtown to try and attract better designers to try and make cool products to follow up the RAZR.
New update to NFL mobile app actually blocks rooted devices! I guess Verizon is either paranoid or thinks they own MY phone and can dictate how I use it! I'm off to search for a way to subvert this on my way to giving this app the review score it deserves.
Please feel free to weigh in with any thoughts or suggestions. Like a root user is going to just sit there and give up...yeah, good one Verizon...hey look at that, is that a KICK ME! sign I see on your back?!?!
http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/0...on-3-7-to-8-0-what-and-now-blocks-root-users/
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DanRyan85 said:
New update to NFL mobile app actually blocks rooted devices! I guess Verizon is either paranoid or thinks they own MY phone and can dictate how I use it! I'm off to search for a way to subvert this on my way to giving this app the review score it deserves.
Please feel free to weigh in with any thoughts or suggestions. Like a root user is going to just sit there and give up...yeah, good one Verizon...hey look at that, is that a KICK ME! sign I see on your back?!?!
http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/0...on-3-7-to-8-0-what-and-now-blocks-root-users/
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Ya I would think there's a way around it. Sq lite maybe? Not the best at bypassing stuff
I don't particularly mind. Never used it much. What pissed me off was VZW decided to add NFL Premium to all the lines on my plan without me asking for it. That's $6 a month per line I never asked for. Soon as I saw that I canceled it.
@DanRyan85
Block removed.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2395333
You are friggin awesome man thank you!
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Reading this makes it sound terrible for Sammy and LG. What have you guys heard?
http://www.dailytech.com/Apple+Pate...+Allows+Ban+on+Most+Androids/article33580.htm
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Reading this makes it sound terrible for Sammy and LG. What have you guys heard?
http://www.dailytech.com/Apple+Pate...+Allows+Ban+on+Most+Androids/article33580.htm
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Wow... :what:
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I will quit using phones if there is no more android. I'll buy a house phone lol. I Dead serious though.
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How funny... Not a bad idea
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Lol not gonna happen.
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Wont happen there is too much money involved with android. Either way screw apple. They will never get a penny of my money.
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mjs2011 said:
Lol not gonna happen.
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Well, I'd like to hope you're right, but not betting on it?
miketucky350 said:
Wont happen there is too much money involved with android. Either way screw apple. They will never get a penny of my money.
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"The only winner is Windows" That was the conclusion of the article, because appearantly M$ has enough patents and licences to cover all makers of Windows Phone - Capacitive screens or not! So Sammy and LG "could" produce Windows Phones and pay MS their cut and call it a day
The reason why we'll never see the end of Android (well at least in the next 10-20 years) is that the market share is so paramount. Such an event would have so many economical consequences that the governments would step in before anything would happen.
mjs2011 said:
The reason why we'll never see the end of Android (well at least in the next 10-20 years) is that the market share is so paramount. Such an event would have so many economical consequences that the governments would step in before anything would happen.
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It'll also be held up in appeals for years. Not only that, but I'm pretty sure this would only cover OEM keyboards that come pre-installed. I really doubt that it would affect third-party apps like SwiftKey. Worst case scenario, there will end up being some kind of technical workaround that approximates current usage but skirts the patent. There's no real reason to worry about this.
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I have yet to see a single legitimate source try to forecast doom and gloom for Android as a result of this development. Let's not collectively freak out over some blog post on a meaningless website.
Sorry but this conversation belongs in the Off Topic thread here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2434020
This does not have any development content towards the Sprint S4.
Thank you for your cooperation.
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any proof?
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varshil said:
any proof?
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Nope, he's talking out of his @$$
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Can't wait ...
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3. Nexus 5 will come with 4.3 first and then will be updated to 4.4 later.
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How/why this?!...
Oher sources claim that it comes with 4.4.0 and will get update to 4.4.1 (with 50 or 100GB Google Drive offer) straight after activation!
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any proof?
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Why do you need, proof? Its probably friend of the friends friend, who was in the taxi and spoke to driver who gave a ride to the guy who's friend works in google.
One again please post your "information" on the main N5 thread.
Awaiting proof from you side...
BUT check this out
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Why do you need, proof? Its probably friend of the friends friend, who was in the taxi and spoke to driver who gave a ride to the guy who's friend works in google.
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Too much leaked rumors to trust everybody
subxero123 said:
Nope, he's talking out of his @$$
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Haha.. @op before posting or making a new thread, just make sure that you have a proof. Otherwise only fools will believe u.
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vygi said:
How/why this?!...
Oher sources claim that it comes with 4.4.0 and will get update to 4.4.1 (with 50 or 100GB Google Drive offer) straight after activation!
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This.
Ships with 4.4 will get update prompt first boot asking to upgrade to 4.4.1.
subxero123 said:
Nope, he's talking out of his @$$
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Haha loled when I read this
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There's a distinctive smell hanging around this. I call bulls**t. Give us a reliable source and I'll happily believe you to some degree.
Think this is just OP looking for some attention..
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Yup, agree with u!
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Any timings?
Oli1122 said:
There's a distinctive smell hanging around this. I call bulls**t. Give us a reliable source and I'll happily believe you to some degree.
Think this is just OP looking for some attention..
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Mods...
Can you please delete or lock this thread. My mistake i tried to share with community. I have enough attention in Sensation forum dont need more.
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Haha.. @op before posting or making a new thread, just make sure that you have a proof. Otherwise only fools will believe u.
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He has 3 that believed him.
rathore4u said:
I work for a big media company which has got more than 15 apps in Play Store. Most of the apps are in Top recommendations from Play Store.
Our business works closely with Google and we had issues when 4.3 was released. So Google gave us a heads up. Some people from our office are going to Google as well for testing on new device and Android OS.
I cant go into names.
If people don't like it i would suggest don't reply.
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Thank you, maybe you should have mentioned this in the original post? there have been way too many attention seekers on this forum with completely unfounded claims. As it goes with this information I believe you.
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Can you please delete or lock this thread. My mistake i tried to share with community. I have enough attention in Sensation forum dont need more.
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Thank you for sharing this information. Honestly we do care and are very greatful for it, its just we needed that little bit more info on the source, as you may have seen its very easy for people to just claim they know things and post them publically and with tensions running so high as we are very happy about the device I feel many of us jumped to conclusions.
Yea, there have been many rumours about the release in the past which makes us difficult to believe on any1
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If anyone was wondering the deleted posts are as follows..
Nexus 5 released today
Available for sale on the play store tomorrow
Will be released with android 4.3
Will upgrade to android 4.4 after release
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I work for a big media company which has got more than 15 apps in Play Store. Most of the apps are in Top recommendations from Play Store.
Our business works closely with Google and we had issues when 4.3 was released. So Google gave us a heads up. Some people from our office are going to Google as well for testing on new device and Android OS.
I cant go into names.
If people don't like it i would suggest don't reply.
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Can you please delete or lock this thread. My mistake i tried to share with community. I have enough attention in Sensation forum dont need more.
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Take a chill pill, please.
My suggestion, dont use safe terms like:
"I work for a big media company"
"I cant go into names"
"If people don't like it i would suggest don't reply"
It sounds very fishy and not very convincing
FYI, there are haters everywhere