Hi,
I got Moto X ( FCC ID: IHDT56PA2 from the box, which means its XT1053 model for unlocked GSM US version-retail, sold by Moto),it can be used with TMob. and ATT.
I was planning to use it in Canada on Wind Mobile, AWS bands 1700, and 2100. So far everything is theoretically OK, bands are there, BUT after plugging Sim from Wind phone does not recognizes the Wind network...maybe this is not what the box said??? How can I check exact model...it looks to me that maybe its xt1058 which does not have band 1700.
In menus About Phone I find : model Moto X only, Baseband version MSM8960PRO_BP_2323.038.123.00R, Kitkat 4.4.3 but nothing about exact model
Please help! It looks like I have to return it on Ebay...what other options do I have ?/
Lino
lino96 said:
Hi,
I got Moto X ( FCC ID: IHDT56PA2 from the box, which means its XT1053 model for unlocked GSM US version-retail, sold by Moto),it can be used with TMob. and ATT.
I was planning to use it in Canada on Wind Mobile, AWS bands 1700, and 2100. So far everything is theoretically OK, bands are there, BUT after plugging Sim from Wind phone does not recognizes the Wind network...maybe this is not what the box said??? How can I check exact model...it looks to me that maybe its xt1058 which does not have band 1700.
In menus About Phone I find : model Moto X only, Baseband version MSM8960PRO_BP_2323.038.123.00R, Kitkat 4.4.3 but nothing about exact model
Please help! It looks like I have to return it on Ebay...what other options do I have ?/
Lino
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Check the back of your phone all the way down.. it will tell if its 1053 or 1058 or 1052
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mac1996 said:
Check the back of your phone all the way down.. it will tell if its 1053 or 1058 or 1052
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No, it does not . No any signs on the back . I did try to chat with Motorola support but no result either.
lino96 said:
No, it does not . No any signs on the back . I did try to chat with Motorola support but no result either.
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XT1049 Republic Wireless
XT1053 GSM Developer Edition, T-Mobile
XT1055 U.S. Cellular
XT1056 Sprint
XT1058 AT&T
XT1060 Verizon Wireless
Even this does not help plug your phone into the PC ..it will say the model number
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mac1996 said:
XT1049 Republic Wireless
XT1053 GSM Developer Edition, T-Mobile
XT1055 U.S. Cellular
XT1056 Sprint
XT1058 AT&T
XT1060 Verizon Wireless
Even this does not help plug your phone into the PC ..it will say the model number
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Thank you very much , it is so simple .......so I have xt1053, now it has 1700,2100 mhz (aws ? I presume) but it still does not work on my provider in Canada, Wind Mobile.
Today I visited another store of Wind M. and was told that to them it looks like phone works with their SIM only in 2g which is reserved for Wind Roaming only.When I go to Settings-Mobile Networks-Preferred Network Type: I get only 2options :Automatic (ticked) and 2G not indicated. Is it the same on yours XT-1053
On my Galaxy s2x I get different choices such as:GSM/HSPA (Auto), GSM only , HSPA only so my phone which is pentaband works perfect. Here I dont have an option to forced it to work on HSPA only.
Any suggestions ??
lino96 said:
Thank you very much , it is so simple .......so I have xt1053, now it has 1700,2100 mhz (aws ? I presume) but it still does not work on my provider in Canada, Wind Mobile.
Today I visited another store of Wind M. and was told that to them it looks like phone works with their SIM only in 2g which is reserved for Wind Roaming only.When I go to Settings-Mobile Networks-Preferred Network Type: I get only 2options :Automatic (ticked) and 2G not indicated. Is it the same on yours XT-1053
On my Galaxy s2x I get different choices such as:GSM/HSPA (Auto), GSM only , HSPA only so my phone which is pentaband works perfect. Here I dont have an option to forced it to work on HSPA only.
Any suggestions ??
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My device is XT 1053 TMO...(STOCK ROOTED)
I get same 2 options :Automatic (ticked) and 2G ...I USE GRAVITY BOX & XPOSED MODULES TO DO NETWORK TWEAKS LIKE switching from 3g to 4g & getting options like hspa/LTE
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lino96 said:
Settings-Mobile Networks-Preferred Network Type: I get only 2options :Automatic (ticked) and 2G not indicated. Is it the same on yours XT-1053
On my Galaxy s2x I get different choices such as:GSM/HSPA (Auto), GSM only , HSPA only so my phone which is pentaband works perfect. Here I dont have an option to forced it to work on HSPA only.
Any suggestions ??
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Before you worry about rooting or anything drastic I suggest you take the situation one step at a time:
- Forget data, do you have cell signal? if no, check sim.
- Is your APN setting correct for your network? check Settings->Wireless & Networks More->Mobile Networks->Access Point Names
- To set HSPA only you're going to have to use the "Phone Info" screen. Normally to get that screen you'd dial *#*#4636#*#* but that doesn't work so you need a workaround. if you have a third party launcher or if you have the app called Anycut you can create an activity shortcut to Phone Info on your home screen. Another option is to use apps that open the Phone Info for you, and that's all they do. I use the app called Radio Switcher.
- Once you're in Phone Info screen be careful not to touch anything except the option that says "Set preferred network type:" and select WCDMA Only.
- This setting might not normally stick upon reboot. For my experimentation and success in making it stick upon reboot see my post here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=55810041&postcount=11
And BTW the back of your phone should have the model number near the bottom, it's just hard to see because they imprinted it to look invisible when looking straight at it. Just twist and turn and hold it so the light catches it just right to make it easy to see.
Gentlemen and especially dtg7,
Thank You very much for your help, Radio Switcher works beautifully with my XT1053 ...WCDMA Only sticks even after reboot, perfect...now only how to get rid of that notification about available update to kitkat 4.4.4. Do not want to upgrade because of problems with battery life and some other stuff not working properly (popular topic on the net) ?? Does this update pushes also some Motorola software updates apart from 4.4.4 i.e camera etc. ??
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No, it does not . No any signs on the back . I did try to chat with Motorola support but no result either.
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Is there the word "Developer Edition" on the back cover? If yes, you can see very small silver color words near microphone.
XT1053, assembled in USA.
lino96 said:
how to get rid of that notification about available update to kitkat 4.4.4. Do not want to upgrade because of problems with battery life and some other stuff not working properly (popular topic on the net) ?? Does this update pushes also some Motorola software updates apart from 4.4.4 i.e camera etc. ??
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Disabling update will probably require root, but here's one thing you can try without root. In Settings->Apps->All find the app MotorolaOTA and open it's settings. Then just uncheck the "show notifications" box.
With root though, that has already been discussed here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/moto-x-qa/apps-to-block-ota-rooted-moto-x-t2714410
but before that you'd have to root your phone. to do that you and being on 4.4.3 you have two options:
1) unlock your bootloader, flash a custom recovery, then flash superSU. details are abundantly available. important thing to note is unless you have the Developer Edition you'll lose any warranty you had. if you don't want to lose warranty you have option two.
2) use TowelPieRoot method. this is an exploit that can be done on a locked bootloader so your warranty would be fine. http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/themes-apps/root-towelpieroot-motorola-devices-t2825059
If you do decide to root, whichever method you use, make sure to return your phone to stock condition before trying to take future updates, like the one to Lollipop. For method one that means flashing back stock recovery. For method two I believe the towelpieroot app comes with an uninstall option. For the OTA disabling that means undoing whatever you did.
FYI I did take the 4.4.4 update and I can confirm battery did take a hit. Going from 4.4.2 to 4.4.3 battery gained a lot it seemed, visibly so. The first few days of 4.4.4 were pretty bad. After clearing device cache and after a few days it became more reasonable but still seemed less than 4.4.3. Other than that have had no problems with 4.4.4.
Why did I take 4.4.4 well for one it's a security update, nothing changed from 4.4.3 except a fix for security issues. second, my guess was we won't have to wait long for lollipop after Nov 3. time will tell if that's correct.
Thankq
mac1996 said:
Check the back of your phone all the way down.. it will tell if its 1053 or 1058 or 1052
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Hey thanks its there my model no..
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I've been rocking a Droid Razr M for a while, epic phone!
But I've had my eye on the Moto X since I first heard about it... it just is a fantastic phone from all I've been reading and watching.
Problem is... I'm outside the states. I'm an European currently living in Bolivia.
I can easily get a Moto X same way I got my Razr M => Ebay! .. thing is.. will it work?
The Verizon Droid Razr M worked even before I unlocked it's bootloader etc.. will the Moto X ?
It should work no problem as long as you sim-unlock the phone. I'm using an AT&T Moto X in Canada and it works wonders.
Just make sure you get the correct phone either gsm or CDMA, of course it depends on what system carriers have in your particular country. I can verify that all gsm Roms ie T-Mobile and at&t work on my rogers gsm phone
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Just make sure you get the correct phone either gsm or CDMA, of course it depends on what system carriers have in your particular country. I can verify that all gsm Roms ie T-Mobile and at&t work on my rogers gsm phone
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oh thank you!
To be honest until very recently I didn't even knew there was diferent kinds of networks
all I knew was about diferent frequencies used in diferent contries, for example before coming to Bolivia I bought a Galaxy Ace 2 in Portugal, unlocked. To my surprise when I got to Bolivia it didn't work with 3g networks... just crappy slow 2g internet.
So.. at what Moto X's should I look at? I have no idea which companies use GSM or CDMA. Here in Bolivia it's GSM. (I'm 99% sure, as I had to GSM fix the rom's I installed on my Razr M.. Sorry for still being such a newbie, this is all pretty new to me)
SrPintas said:
...To be honest until very recently I didn't even knew there was diferent kinds of networks
all I knew was about diferent frequencies used in diferent contries, for example before coming to Bolivia I bought a Galaxy Ace 2 in Portugal, unlocked. To my surprise when I got to Bolivia it didn't work with 3g networks... just crappy slow 2g internet.
So.. at what Moto X's should I look at? I have no idea which companies use GSM or CDMA. Here in Bolivia it's GSM. (I'm 99% sure, as I had to GSM fix the rom's I installed on my Razr M.. Sorry for still being such a newbie, this is all pretty new to me)
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Your Droid Razr M was likely a Verizon device (Any with the DROID in their name was due to Verizon licensing "Droid" from Lucas LTD). As such it was CDMA and LTE Band 13 (700MHz range). It also came with quad band GSM/GPRS/EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900) radio for global roaming. Not sure what "GSM FIX" you did, as Moto's web site says it also supports HSPA/UMTS on 850/900/1900/2100MHz.
The X supports the same, but adds support for faster HSPA+ on those same frequencies, and eventually will add LTE band 4 support with a future firmware update.
All Verizon LTE devices are SIM unlocked.
If you only got EDGE with the Razr M, you have a GSM carrier that uses other bands than the Verizon phones support. I'd look for the T-Mobile version of the X, or even the ATT over the Verizon version. From what I understand you can unlock the boot loader on the T-Mobile version. The ATT has a locked bootloader and is SIM locked too. I think the T-Mobile version is not SIM locked, but I could be wrong.
But without knowing what frequencies your carrier supports, its really hard to say.
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Your Droid Razr M was likely a Verizon device (Any with the DROID in their name was due to Verizon licensing "Droid" from Lucas LTD). As such it was CDMA and LTE Band 13 (700MHz range). It also came with quad band GSM/GPRS/EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900) radio for global roaming. Not sure what "GSM FIX" you did, as Moto's web site says it also supports HSPA/UMTS on 850/900/1900/2100MHz.
The X supports the same, but adds support for faster HSPA+ on those same frequencies, and eventually will add LTE band 4 support with a future firmware update.
All Verizon LTE devices are SIM unlocked.
If you only got EDGE with the Razr M, you have a GSM carrier that uses other bands than the Verizon phones support. I'd look for the T-Mobile version of the X, or even the ATT over the Verizon version. From what I understand you can unlock the boot loader on the T-Mobile version. The ATT has a locked bootloader and is SIM locked too. I think the T-Mobile version is not SIM locked, but I could be wrong.
But without knowing what frequencies your carrier supports, its really hard to say.
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Sorry I explained myself wrong.
The Razr M worked fine out of the box. I had to do a GSM fix for some of the Roms I installed.
It was with the Ace II that I only had EDGE.
You said something super there! All LTE Verizon phones are SIM unlocked? Is that for sure? so if I get a Moto X from Verizon, it's gonna work here for sure
That's great news!
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Sorry I explained myself wrong.
The Razr M worked fine out of the box. I had to do a GSM fix for some of the Roms I installed.
It was with the Ace II that I only had EDGE.
You said something super there! All LTE Verizon phones are SIM unlocked? Is that for sure? so if I get a Moto X from Verizon, it's gonna work here for sure
That's great news!
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Yes, their LTE phones are SIM unlocked. Its due to the rules around the 700mhz spectrum they got.
That being said, the latest update to my VZW Samsung Galaxy S4 changed it to that I now have to manually enter the T-Mobile APN settings when I put my T-Mobile USA sim in it. With the MDK and ME7 roms, the came down automatically. I'll have to try the X with the Tmo SIM in it if I get a chance later today to see if its manual or automatic.
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Yes, their LTE phones are SIM unlocked. Its due to the rules around the 700mhz spectrum they got.
That being said, the latest update to my VZW Samsung Galaxy S4 changed it to that I now have to manually enter the T-Mobile APN settings when I put my T-Mobile USA sim in it. With the MDK and ME7 roms, the came down automatically. I'll have to try the X with the Tmo SIM in it if I get a chance later today to see if its manual or automatic.
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Thank you, that'd be great help!
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...I'll have to try the X with the Tmo SIM in it if I get a chance later today to see if its manual or automatic.
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Ok, I just tried... first some info... My Moto X is Stock 16gig from Verizon (not rooted, not a dev edition), with the latest OTA update Verizon pushed (that fixes camera). System Version: 139.15.1.ghost_verizon build 13.9.0Q2.x-116-MX-17-57-x-1. The phone is in "Global" mode, with global roaming settings enabled for all trips. The T-Mobile sim is from my Samsung Galaxy S3 T-Mobile USA (work device).
I powered off the X, removed my Verizon SIM, put in the T-Mo USA sim, and powered it up. The X notifies me "this sim is from an unknown provider." I got an Edge signal. I see T-Mobile on the lock screen. After a another power off/on, I get H+ using the T-Mobile SIM.
Data works - Tested via Chrome and visiting web sites. BB Messenger signs in as well.
SMS works - I sent an SMS from X to my Verizon iPhone 5s (other work phone), it was received fine on the iPhone and reported the T-Mobile phone number. Sent a SMS from my iPhone 5 to the T-Mo phone number, it was received fine on the X.
MMS works - Sent a picture taken on the X to my iP5s, and one from the my iP5s to the X. They were both sent/received just fine.
Calling works - Called my T-Mo USA number from my iP5s, and the X rang was able to answer and talk fine. Called iP5s number from the X, and call came in on my iP5s identified with my T-Mo USA number, was able to answer and talk fine.
All this works WITHOUT manually entering the APN settings on the X when the T-Mobile SIM is in there. But based on the VZW GS4, there is no guarantee the X will remain this way, and you may eventually have to manually enter your APN settings. The again, your wireless carrier may require you to manually enter the APN settings.. I don't know.
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Ok, I just tried... first some info... My Moto X is Stock 16gig from Verizon (not rooted, not a dev edition), with the latest OTA update Verizon pushed (that fixes camera). System Version: 139.15.1.ghost_verizon build 13.9.0Q2.x-116-MX-17-57-x-1. The phone is in "Global" mode, with global roaming settings enabled for all trips. The T-Mobile sim is from my Samsung Galaxy S3 T-Mobile USA (work device).
I powered off the X, removed my Verizon SIM, put in the T-Mo USA sim, and powered it up. The X notifies me "this sim is from an unknown provider." I got an Edge signal. I see T-Mobile on the lock screen. After a another power off/on, I get H+ using the T-Mobile SIM.
Data works - Tested via Chrome and visiting web sites. BB Messenger signs in as well.
SMS works - I sent an SMS from X to my Verizon iPhone 5s (other work phone), it was received fine on the iPhone and reported the T-Mobile phone number. Sent a SMS from my iPhone 5 to the T-Mo phone number, it was received fine on the X.
MMS works - Sent a picture taken on the X to my iP5s, and one from the my iP5s to the X. They were both sent/received just fine.
Calling works - Called my T-Mo USA number from my iP5s, and the X rang was able to answer and talk fine. Called iP5s number from the X, and call came in on my iP5s identified with my T-Mo USA number, was able to answer and talk fine.
All this works WITHOUT manually entering the APN settings on the X when the T-Mobile SIM is in there. But based on the VZW GS4, there is no guarantee the X will remain this way, and you may eventually have to manually enter your APN settings. The again, your wireless carrier may require you to manually enter the APN settings.. I don't know.
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Thank you. It behaves like my Razr M did, I get a warning but then it all works anyway!
So even if something changes in the future it would be that I have to enter the Apn manually? this is Bolivia, there's no such thing as NOT entering the APN manually !! ahah =)
Wow that's super!
The Moto X is by far the best Android phone out there for me. I hate big phones... it's like a cancer on Android Flagships.
That's why I really like the Razr M, performance and small size (about the size of an iphone 5, for comparisson sake) and the Moto X aint that much bigger and comes with kickass OS from start.. I kinda had given up on owning one, now I can look into it again! =D
Thank you!
SrPintas said:
Thank you. It behaves like my Razr M did, I get a warning but then it all works anyway!
So even if something changes in the future it would be that I have to enter the Apn manually?
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yes, I would think it should behave the same as the Razr M.
As for the future.. I do not expect Verizon to SIM lock (due to FCC rules), and the only change I've seen so far on my GS4 is now having to manually enter the APN settings... NOTE: now that I manually have to enter the APN settings on the GS4, sending/receiving MMS hasn't worked. So either I got a setting wrong, or something is missing. I've compared the APN settings between the X, Lumia 928 and GS4 when the T-Mo sim is in each, and they appear to be the same so I'm not sure why the GS4 doesn't work. But i you are manually entering your APN settings on the Razr M and its working, I'd expect the X to work no problem.
I have another question. It's pretty hard to get a Moto X safely here in Bolivia. I'll have to buy from ebay, and not only there's a chance that it gets "lost" during transport (not frequent, but can happen) but also the fact that corruption is HIIIIIIIGHHHH here and the customs guys love to basically rob foreigns... I had to drop a big bill when I imported my Razr M to release it from customs office.
So, to avoid all that I thought of something, I have a collegue in faculty whose from Canada and he's going to Canada for Xmas. He could get a Moto X there for me and bring it over with him safely. Question is, are Moto X's in Canada GSM compatible? if so which ones etc, what should I look for and what to avoid?
KidJoe said:
yes, I would think it should behave the same as the Razr M.
As for the future.. I do not expect Verizon to SIM lock (due to FCC rules), and the only change I've seen so far on my GS4 is now having to manually enter the APN settings... NOTE: now that I manually have to enter the APN settings on the GS4, sending/receiving MMS hasn't worked. So either I got a setting wrong, or something is missing. I've compared the APN settings between the X, Lumia 928 and GS4 when the T-Mo sim is in each, and they appear to be the same so I'm not sure why the GS4 doesn't work. But i you are manually entering your APN settings on the Razr M and its working, I'd expect the X to work no problem.
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SrPintas said:
I have another question. It's pretty hard to get a Moto X safely here in Bolivia. I'll have to buy from ebay, and not only there's a chance that it gets "lost" during transport (not frequent, but can happen) but also the fact that corruption is HIIIIIIIGHHHH here and the customs guys love to basically rob foreigns... I had to drop a big bill when I imported my Razr M to release it from customs office.
So, to avoid all that I thought of something, I have a collegue in faculty whose from Canada and he's going to Canada for Xmas. He could get a Moto X there for me and bring it over with him safely. Question is, are Moto X's in Canada GSM compatible? if so which ones etc, what should I look for and what to avoid?
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The Moto X is available in Canada only on Rogers and Fido and its the XT1058 version. While it has the same frequencies as the AT&T and a few others, it also allows you to unlock the bootloader via Moto's website.
Right now only the 16GB version is available in black or white.
A good comparison chart of all of the versions of the Moto X is here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moto_X#Variants
Got my unlocked AT&T Moto X from eBay ; works just perfect in the Netherlands, w/o any further modifications.
Have your friend buy a Rogers/Fido Moto X in Canada. They are all XT1058s, same as the AT&T model however the bootloader can be unlocked and the phone can be sim unlocked easily for 8 bucks. They are also completely unbranded, no provider markings on the case or in the firmware.
If your friend is lucky he can find a dealer to sell him one for $450.00 cdn, (about 440.00 USD)
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Have your friend buy a Rogers/Fido Moto X in Canada. They are all XT1058s, same as the AT&T model however the bootloader can be unlocked and the phone can be sim unlocked easily for 8 bucks. They are also completely unbranded, no provider markings on the case or in the firmware.
If your friend is lucky he can find a dealer to sell him one for $450.00 cdn, (about 440.00 USD)
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Oh that is kickass!
thanks a lot for all the input!
Is the sprint version of the phone globally unlocked as well?
Can I buy a Sprint moto x and use a GSM Sim card in Latin America?
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Can I buy a Sprint moto x and use a GSM Sim card in Latin America?
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Edit: Most US carriers should sell them unlocked, confirmed for AT&T, T-Mobile, and Verizon. I've seen conflicting stories on Sprint. Verizon also may limit some other functionality like forwarding calls for Google Voice, but that's generally a US-only service. Republic Wireless may be locked as well.
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Got my unlocked AT&T Moto X from eBay ; works just perfect in the Netherlands, w/o any further modifications.
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Did you buy it already unlocked? I just bought mine on ebay, but its still new in box but bought off contract
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Did you buy it already unlocked? I just bought mine on ebay, but its still new in box but bought off contract
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Yes, according to description on eBay 'unlocked AT&T model'. Package was evidently opened, also on pics, for unlocking, as stated, otherwise unused, everything in original packaging, state, even protection folie on the phone.
After inserting my Dutch sim card started up w/o any problems!
And bonus; let it shipped as 'used item' (matter of fact is; package opened), so hadn't bothered customs office (pretty money hungry here in the Netherlands) neither..
I purchased the Moto X Developer Edition (GSM) after confirming with Motorola that is was unlocked and could be used internationally with local SIMs (not AT&T or T-Mobile. I am now abroad and the phone shows "No Service - Selected Network Unavailable". I confirmed that the network uses supported bands.
How can I unlock this phone for international use? It was purchased directly from Motorola and after spending over 6 hours (mostly on hold) trying to get resolution, they suggested I post here.
All help is welcome.
Thanks
It is unlocked but you probably need to enter the correct APN for your provider.
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Rhiannon224 said:
It is unlocked but you probably need to enter the correct APN for your provider.
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The APNs are correct but it doesn't work. I can't even make outgoing 2G calls. No network recognition. The SIM works in an iPhone 5.
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The APNs are correct but it doesn't work. I can't even make outgoing 2G calls. No network recognition. The SIM works in an iPhone 5.
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Probably not sim unlocked,
Sent on my Moto X
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Probably not sim unlocked,
Sent on my Moto X
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So how do I SIM unlock this phone if it isn't attached to a specific network (can be either AT&T or T-Mobile)?
Developer editions are unlocked. Can you confirm your software version?
Did try selecting 2g under network mode?
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Developer editions are unlocked. Can you confirm your software version?
Did try selecting 2g under network mode?
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Motorola did tell me it was unlocked before my order but in fact it is not and now motorola tech support says it can't help me. 2g doesn't work either.
Where are u trying to use it? Make sure Network Mode is Auto, do you see providers under Network Operators ?
If it was locked it would ask for you to enter the unlock code, so it's not locked. Perhaps the international radios are not functional properly.
Hey guys i got Moto X Verizon wireless and i wanted to root and install custom room is it possible with verizon wireless ?can i unlock bootloader if yes can anyone give me some sort of guide please.
L7iharsha said:
Hey guys i got Moto X Verizon wireless and i wanted to root and install custom room is it possible with verizon wireless ?can i unlock bootloader if yes can anyone give me some sort of guide please.
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First, this is a general thread. Second, read and then read again. and then ask . Im not trying to be rude, cause we've all been there. If you have a dev edition, you can unlock your bootloader, but if you dont, the bootloader is not unlockable. Although there is a root method over in Original Development
ok but can u help me regarding this i live in india im not getting signal with gsm networks it never connects to the network can u help?
L7iharsha said:
ok but can u help me regarding this i live in india im not getting signal with gsm networks it never connects to the network can u help?
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If you're on 4.4, start at the APN settings. Figure what those are for your carrier. Google it
i have correct settings it connects and immediately showing emergency only what could be the reason?
can i roll back to jellybean
I seriously hope you are trolling but in case you aren't...
Google the bands your network requires. Google the bands Verizon's MotoX has.
Google GSM developer editions bands.
Hopefully you can figure it out from here
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i cant understand what u said can u be more specific
Dude.... seriously.... read the threads....all your questions will be answered there. Otherwise, Google it.
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No offence intended....but if you can't figure this stuff out from the threads in the dev section, then you may want to study more and learn this stuff a bit before doing anything. Trying these things when you don't understand it can lead to very bad times.
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L7iharsha said:
i have correct settings it connects and immediately showing emergency only what could be the reason?
can i roll back to jellybean
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What could be the reason?
First let me start by saying, I've seen you post looking for help in several threads now. Unfortunately we don't use your carrier so there is a good chance none of us can help you resolve your specific issue. All we can do is give you the general tips that might help. That being said, the following sums up the MANY threads about using the Verizon Wireless (VZW) Moto X on a GSM carrier like ATT and T-Mobile in the USA and they should apply to you...
1. is your carrier CDMA or GSM?
If CDMA, the VZW X likely wont work with it no matter what you do as it supports the frequencies for 1xRTT/CDMA/EVDO that VZW uses which may differ from what your carrier uses, plus the authentication values needed for 1xRTT/CDMA/EVDO are hard coded to Verizon's settings and I haven't seen discussion to change these to non-Verizon settings like we could with older CDMA feature phones.
If GSM, since the VZW X is Sim unlocked, and supports quad band GSM/Edge 850/900/1800/1900Mhz, as long as your carrier uses those frequencies you have a chance of at least voice and EDGE data speeds. When it comes to HSPA or LTE data speeds, that depends on the frequencies your carrier uses vs what frequencies the VZW Moto X supports. Motorola.COM properly lists all the bands the VZW X supported when it first shipped. The Kit Kat Rom update has also added LTE Band 4 support to the VZW X, which I do not think is listed on Motorola's web page yet.
NOTE: if your carrier is GSM, you need to make sure you go into Settings -> Wireless & network settings (more..) -> Mobile Networks.. and enable roaming, and set the network mode to either Global or GSM/UMTS.
2. Do you have the right APN settings for your carrier?
In some cases, I've had the APN settings come down automatically when using a Non-VZW sim in my VZW Moto X and everything worked. Other cases, I had to manually input the APN settings before it would work and the "Emergency call only" status would go away. I also experienced even though I had entered the correct APN settings, MMS didn't work.
So its important you have the 100% correct APN settings, make sure you make no typographical errors when entering, and even then, there is a chance things might not work.
3. There is an apparent problem with voice/data LTE and such when using a GSM SIM. It impacts T-Mobile, but I haven't seen if it also impacts ATT (not likely due to ATT using different LTE bands the VZW X can't connect to). For more info, see this thread -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2578665 and start around post #14.
Finally... Can you roll back to Jellybean? This question has been covered many many times in other threads which is why you are getting "search" and "read" type responses.
For the Verizon Moto X there are 3 ROMs at this time...
Initial Shipping JB 4.2.2 ROM (Blur_Version.139.10.53.ghost_verizon.Verizon.en.US).
First OTA Update JB 4.2.2 with the Camera Update ROM (Blur_Version.139.15.1.ghost_verizon.Verizon.en.US),
KitKat 4.4 ROM (Blur_Version.140.45.5.ghost_verizon.Verizon.en.US).
If your phone is already using the "camera update rom" or Kit Kat rom, you can no longer flash the initial shipping JB rom, but you can flash the other two. There are threads discussing how to use RSDLite, or fastboot, to flash the ROMs if you need to know how.
NOTE: the "Blur_Version" in parenthesis denotes how they are listed on -> http://sbf.droid-developers.org/phone.php?device=0 and When visiting SBF.Droid-Developers, when ever you are on the phone selection page be sure to pick the Moto X, not the Droid X!!!
If you are running Kit Kat now, you could try to flash back to the Camera Update rom and see if you have better luck.
And that is all I can offer. Sorry.
I'm contacted one of my Frnd who is pro in cdma programming in India after watching this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V6rzB_FwE4A&feature=youtube_gdata_player he told me that Verizon Locked GSM radio on my Moto X he said that needs some root modification
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@KidJoe can I flash this Android 4.2.2
Blur_Version.139.15.1.ghost_verizon.Verizon.en.US
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L7iharsha said:
I'm contacted one of my Frnd who is pro in cdma programming in India after watching this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V6rzB_FwE4A&feature=youtube_gdata_player he told me that Verizon Locked GSM radio on my Moto X he said that needs some root modification
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Well, then I'm sure my experience of putting a T-Mobile USA and ATT USA (both GSM carrier) SIMs in my X, a and getting them to work using GSM/HSPA only, along with the experiences of the many others who did the same and posted about it, doesn't count since your "friend who is pro" and just watched a video determined the GSM side was locked.
No, the GSM Side of the Verizon USA Moto X is not SIM locked. If it was I could not put a Non-Verizon SIM in and make it work. And even if it was, I've never seen ROOT needed to SIM Unlock. The phone is sold by Verizon as a "Global Phone" meaning it supports at least quad band GSM/EDGE (850/900/1800/1900Mhz) which are used around the globe. Now, if your carrier does't use those frequencies, it wont work.
As I said in my previous post there is what appears to be a bug or problem when using LTE with at least T-Mobile USA.. and pointed you to this thread -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2578665 and suggested you start reading at post #14... Please VISIT THAT THREAD AND READ THOSE COMMENTS!!!!!! it outlines the problem and a work around.
You mention troubles getting GSM bands in your original post, but now that you mention your friend and CDMA, I'll go back to what I posted. If your carrier uses CDMA, the VZW X wont work. But you haven't stated if your carrier uses CDMA or GSM, just that you can't get GSM Bands. If the SIM you are trying to use if from a carrier that only uses GSM Bands, that is one thing. But if the carrier uses CDMA its something else.
L7iharsha said:
@KidJoe can I flash this Android 4.2.2
Blur_Version.139.15.1.ghost_verizon.Verizon.en.US
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Did you read where I said there were 3 roms for the VZW X currently? What was ROM #2?? And I said that if you were on the Camera Update, or Kit Kat, you could flash either of those two roms, just not the initial shipping rom. So yes, if your phone is a Verizon Wireless USA Moto X, you can flash that as it is the #2 aka Camera Update rom.
Forgive me for sounding a bit frustrated, but I took the time to type that up, and you obviously didn't read it, nor did you give details of your carrier, what frequencies you were trying to use, etc.
Now, you mention that you have a "Frnd who is pro in cdma programming in India " then why not have him/her help you solve this?
I have the same bands in India my carrier support em there is no carrier or band issue the main point is my Frnd and my Old Verizon Moto X With GSM Working fine only mine not working !!that's why I'm worried even My droid Ultra Working fine with Indian GSM
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I am curious to know what happened to this phone in the last one month. @L7iharsha: Were you finally able to resolve the issue of voice calls not working on your GSM carrier with your Moto X Verizon version?
I am on a Global version Moto X with TMobile. The problem is, I can't have all of the radios working at once. When I put the network on GSM Only, I can only make calls and text, my data is on E. When I switch to UMTS Only, everything except I dont get 4G only 3G. Nothing works at all when I choose Auto.
As far as far preferred network type, Global doesnt work, With LTE/CDMA, Everything works but calling and texting. With LTE/GSM/UMTS, everything works except 4G.
The preferred network types are: Global, LTE/CDMA, LTE/GSM/UMTS
The networks are: GSM,UMTS, or Auto.
Shawn9221 said:
I am on a Global version Moto X with TMobile. The problem is, I can't have all of the radios working at once. When I put the network on GSM Only, I can only make calls and text, my data is on E. When I switch to UMTS Only, everything except I dont get 4G only 3G. Nothing works at all when I choose Auto.
As far as far preferred network type, Global doesnt work, With LTE/CDMA, Everything works but calling and texting. With LTE/GSM/UMTS, everything works except 4G.
The preferred network types are: Global, LTE/CDMA, LTE/GSM/UMTS
The networks are: GSM,UMTS, or Auto.
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Try this download Phone Testing by diewland from the playstore and go to phone information and change the setting to LTE/GSM AUTO (PRL)
serophia said:
Try this download Phone Testing by diewland from the playstore and go to phone information and change the setting to LTE/GSM AUTO (PRL)
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Everything works except calling and texting.
Shawn9221 said:
Everything works except calling and texting.
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It -should- be set to auto in order to use both the GSM frequencies that are used for voice and text, and the HSPA+/LTE frequencies used for data. We need to figure out why 'auto' is not working for you.
Which carrier are you using? Have you input the correct APN settings for your carrier?
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It -should- be set to auto in order to use both the GSM frequencies that are used for voice and text, and the HSPA+/LTE frequencies used for data. We need to figure out why 'auto' is not working for you.
Which carrier are you using? Have you input the correct APN settings for your carrier?
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I'm using T-Mobile. I've tried many APNS, but it doesn't help.
Shawn9221 said:
I'm using T-Mobile. I've tried many APNS, but it doesn't help.
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OH! You're using T-mobile with a Verizon XT1060? I've read about people having issues with using that variant on domestic GSM carriers after a recent update.
I don't personally have any experience to advise you to do this, but I recall that a user said he flashed the entire 4.4.2 T-Mobile SBF to his XT1060 (because he never intended to use it on Verizon again - only GSM carriers), and he advised us that all functions worked.
Am I right about your phone being an XT1060?
samwathegreat said:
OH! You're using T-mobile with a Verizon XT1060? I've read about people having issues with using that variant on domestic GSM carriers after a recent update.
I don't personally have any experience to advise you to do this, but I recall that a user said he flashed the entire 4.4.2 T-Mobile SBF to his XT1060 (because he never intended to use it on Verizon again - only GSM carriers, and he advised us that all functions worked.
Am I right about your phone being an XT1060?
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Yes. I have a relative that works for Verizon and he picked this up for me for free . It's not rooted yet, but do you know how hard it would be to do that?
Shawn9221 said:
Yes. I have a relative that works for Verizon and he picked this up for me for free . It's not rooted yet, but do you know how hard it would be to do that?
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If you are on 4.4.2 you have 2 options:
1. Use "Pie" by jcase - this is a partial root. No write access to /system, and root is lost upon reboot.. Still useful for a few things like Xposed / GravityBox and WiFi Tether.
2. Try to buy a bootloader unlock code from the China Middleman (See the "china middleman back" thread for more info. Since VZW forbids Moto from giving out BL unlock codes for their phones, this is your only hope of getting your bootloader unlocked. Once unlocked, you have FULL write access, and can easily root your device no matter what android version you are on.
Also, you cannot flash the T-Mobile XT1053 rom to your XT1060 without first unlocking your bootloader - if you decide to try this.
I highly suggest trying the middleman if you want unlocked.
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If you are on 4.4.2 you have 2 options:
1. Use "Pie" by jcase - this is a partial root. No write access to /system, and root is lost upon reboot.. Still useful for a few things like Xposed / GravityBox and WiFi Tether.
2. Try to buy a bootloader unlock code from the China Middleman (See the "china middleman back" thread for more info. Since VZW forbids Moto from giving out BL unlock codes for their phones, this is your only hope of getting your bootloader unlocked. Once unlocked, you have FULL write access, and can easily root your device no matter what android version you are on.
Also, you cannot flash the T-Mobile XT1053 rom to your XT1060 without first unlocking your bootloader - if you decide to try this.
I highly suggest trying the middleman if you want unlocked.
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And there is no other way to fix the data issue other than doing that? :/
Shawn9221 said:
And there is no other way to fix the data issue other than doing that? :/
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As far as I know, yes. See this thread regarding your exact issue: http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/moto-x-qa/verizon-moto-x-t-mobile-t2578665/page8
Specifically, look at post # 77 - This is where the user advises that flashing the entire XT1053 ROM solved the problems you have described.
Good Luck
samwathegreat said:
As far as I know, yes. See this thread regarding your exact issue: http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/moto-x-qa/verizon-moto-x-t-mobile-t2578665/page8
Specifically, look at post # 77 - This is where the user advises that flashing the entire XT1053 ROM solved the problems you have described.
Good Luck
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Oh well, I guess I will just have to deal with it as it is. I am not really willing to pay $45 to some random guy for an unlock code. Thanks for the help anyways
Shawn9221 said:
Oh well, I guess I will just have to deal with it as it is. I am not really willing to pay $45 to some random guy for an unlock code. Thanks for the help anyways
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No problem. Keep an eye on the thread I linked. If anyone comes up with a solution to only being able to use DATA or CALLING (and not both) when using the XT1060 on GSM Carriers, it will be posted there.
P.S. If there is a chance you have a VZW -DEVELOPER- Edition (which is also XT1060), you can unlock the bootloader for FREE on motorola's official website.
It should be easy to tell - the Dev Edition has a black front, and a woven white back. More than likely, you have a regular XT1060, but it's worth mentioning...
Also, in my humble opinion, $45 is a small price to pay just to be able to have root. If it allows you to use both DATA and CALLING (by flashing XT1053 ROM), again (in my humble opinion), $45 is way beyond worth it.
Good Luck
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No problem. Keep an eye on the thread I linked. If anyone comes up with a solution to only being able to use DATA or CALLING (and not both) when using the XT1060 on GSM Carriers, it will be posted there.
P.S. If there is a chance you have a VZW -DEVELOPER- Edition (which is also XT1060), you can unlock the bootloader for FREE on motorola's official website.
It should be easy to tell - the Dev Edition has a black front, and a woven white back. More than likely, you have a regular XT1060, but it's worth mentioning...
Good Luck
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Well, I'm probably gonna just switch to Verizon. I have no problems with them and everything should work with my phone again.
Thinking of getting the Moto X pure edition. For Verizon. Is this an unlock version like dev version of the phone? and theres a selection for unlock sim choice. Does that mean I can take it to any carrier? Thanks for any reply in advance.
1. It is carrier unlocked, but not boot loader unlocked. You can request a code from moto for that.
2. When I ordered my pure edition, the only option I saw was a T-Mobile Sim, though I've heard others say they got a different Sims installed.
3. I don't know how many carriers the PE works on, but it's more than just T-Mobile. And as for Verizon, I don't know, sorry.
StankFiss said:
Thinking of getting the Moto X pure edition. For Verizon. Is this an unlock version like dev version of the phone? and theres a selection for unlock sim choice. Does that mean I can take it to any carrier? Thanks for any reply in advance.
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I would ask someone who has Verizon to let you use their SIM card to see what service you get. Band 4 is VZW's "XLTE" band, which the PE supports. You won't get band 13, since the PE lacks that hardware. You might be able to pick band 4 though.
Unlikely that Verizon would activate a Pure on their network, so while you might get some LTE data you'll never have voice calling.
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why does it have to be on Verizon?
I'm using my Pure Edition (XT1095) with Straight Talk (AT&T compatible SIM) with no issues and it gets about 15-20 MBs down with LTE within a 60-70 mile radius for me. I get good coverage and not have to deal with BS contracts.
chrisrozon said:
Unlikely that Verizon would activate a Pure on their network, so while you might get some LTE data you'll never have voice calling.
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This.
Verizon's network isn't like GSM networks where you can just pop your SIM in practically any phone and be done with it. They have to physically activate the phone on their network, and they won't if it's not their device. Your options are to either get a Verizon branded Moto X, or use the Pure on AT&T, TMo, or one of the many GSM MVNOs.