I am on a Global version Moto X with TMobile. The problem is, I can't have all of the radios working at once. When I put the network on GSM Only, I can only make calls and text, my data is on E. When I switch to UMTS Only, everything except I dont get 4G only 3G. Nothing works at all when I choose Auto.
As far as far preferred network type, Global doesnt work, With LTE/CDMA, Everything works but calling and texting. With LTE/GSM/UMTS, everything works except 4G.
The preferred network types are: Global, LTE/CDMA, LTE/GSM/UMTS
The networks are: GSM,UMTS, or Auto.
Shawn9221 said:
I am on a Global version Moto X with TMobile. The problem is, I can't have all of the radios working at once. When I put the network on GSM Only, I can only make calls and text, my data is on E. When I switch to UMTS Only, everything except I dont get 4G only 3G. Nothing works at all when I choose Auto.
As far as far preferred network type, Global doesnt work, With LTE/CDMA, Everything works but calling and texting. With LTE/GSM/UMTS, everything works except 4G.
The preferred network types are: Global, LTE/CDMA, LTE/GSM/UMTS
The networks are: GSM,UMTS, or Auto.
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Try this download Phone Testing by diewland from the playstore and go to phone information and change the setting to LTE/GSM AUTO (PRL)
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Try this download Phone Testing by diewland from the playstore and go to phone information and change the setting to LTE/GSM AUTO (PRL)
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Everything works except calling and texting.
Shawn9221 said:
Everything works except calling and texting.
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It -should- be set to auto in order to use both the GSM frequencies that are used for voice and text, and the HSPA+/LTE frequencies used for data. We need to figure out why 'auto' is not working for you.
Which carrier are you using? Have you input the correct APN settings for your carrier?
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It -should- be set to auto in order to use both the GSM frequencies that are used for voice and text, and the HSPA+/LTE frequencies used for data. We need to figure out why 'auto' is not working for you.
Which carrier are you using? Have you input the correct APN settings for your carrier?
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I'm using T-Mobile. I've tried many APNS, but it doesn't help.
Shawn9221 said:
I'm using T-Mobile. I've tried many APNS, but it doesn't help.
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OH! You're using T-mobile with a Verizon XT1060? I've read about people having issues with using that variant on domestic GSM carriers after a recent update.
I don't personally have any experience to advise you to do this, but I recall that a user said he flashed the entire 4.4.2 T-Mobile SBF to his XT1060 (because he never intended to use it on Verizon again - only GSM carriers), and he advised us that all functions worked.
Am I right about your phone being an XT1060?
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OH! You're using T-mobile with a Verizon XT1060? I've read about people having issues with using that variant on domestic GSM carriers after a recent update.
I don't personally have any experience to advise you to do this, but I recall that a user said he flashed the entire 4.4.2 T-Mobile SBF to his XT1060 (because he never intended to use it on Verizon again - only GSM carriers, and he advised us that all functions worked.
Am I right about your phone being an XT1060?
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Yes. I have a relative that works for Verizon and he picked this up for me for free . It's not rooted yet, but do you know how hard it would be to do that?
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Yes. I have a relative that works for Verizon and he picked this up for me for free . It's not rooted yet, but do you know how hard it would be to do that?
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If you are on 4.4.2 you have 2 options:
1. Use "Pie" by jcase - this is a partial root. No write access to /system, and root is lost upon reboot.. Still useful for a few things like Xposed / GravityBox and WiFi Tether.
2. Try to buy a bootloader unlock code from the China Middleman (See the "china middleman back" thread for more info. Since VZW forbids Moto from giving out BL unlock codes for their phones, this is your only hope of getting your bootloader unlocked. Once unlocked, you have FULL write access, and can easily root your device no matter what android version you are on.
Also, you cannot flash the T-Mobile XT1053 rom to your XT1060 without first unlocking your bootloader - if you decide to try this.
I highly suggest trying the middleman if you want unlocked.
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If you are on 4.4.2 you have 2 options:
1. Use "Pie" by jcase - this is a partial root. No write access to /system, and root is lost upon reboot.. Still useful for a few things like Xposed / GravityBox and WiFi Tether.
2. Try to buy a bootloader unlock code from the China Middleman (See the "china middleman back" thread for more info. Since VZW forbids Moto from giving out BL unlock codes for their phones, this is your only hope of getting your bootloader unlocked. Once unlocked, you have FULL write access, and can easily root your device no matter what android version you are on.
Also, you cannot flash the T-Mobile XT1053 rom to your XT1060 without first unlocking your bootloader - if you decide to try this.
I highly suggest trying the middleman if you want unlocked.
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And there is no other way to fix the data issue other than doing that? :/
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And there is no other way to fix the data issue other than doing that? :/
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As far as I know, yes. See this thread regarding your exact issue: http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/moto-x-qa/verizon-moto-x-t-mobile-t2578665/page8
Specifically, look at post # 77 - This is where the user advises that flashing the entire XT1053 ROM solved the problems you have described.
Good Luck
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As far as I know, yes. See this thread regarding your exact issue: http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/moto-x-qa/verizon-moto-x-t-mobile-t2578665/page8
Specifically, look at post # 77 - This is where the user advises that flashing the entire XT1053 ROM solved the problems you have described.
Good Luck
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Oh well, I guess I will just have to deal with it as it is. I am not really willing to pay $45 to some random guy for an unlock code. Thanks for the help anyways
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Oh well, I guess I will just have to deal with it as it is. I am not really willing to pay $45 to some random guy for an unlock code. Thanks for the help anyways
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No problem. Keep an eye on the thread I linked. If anyone comes up with a solution to only being able to use DATA or CALLING (and not both) when using the XT1060 on GSM Carriers, it will be posted there.
P.S. If there is a chance you have a VZW -DEVELOPER- Edition (which is also XT1060), you can unlock the bootloader for FREE on motorola's official website.
It should be easy to tell - the Dev Edition has a black front, and a woven white back. More than likely, you have a regular XT1060, but it's worth mentioning...
Also, in my humble opinion, $45 is a small price to pay just to be able to have root. If it allows you to use both DATA and CALLING (by flashing XT1053 ROM), again (in my humble opinion), $45 is way beyond worth it.
Good Luck
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No problem. Keep an eye on the thread I linked. If anyone comes up with a solution to only being able to use DATA or CALLING (and not both) when using the XT1060 on GSM Carriers, it will be posted there.
P.S. If there is a chance you have a VZW -DEVELOPER- Edition (which is also XT1060), you can unlock the bootloader for FREE on motorola's official website.
It should be easy to tell - the Dev Edition has a black front, and a woven white back. More than likely, you have a regular XT1060, but it's worth mentioning...
Good Luck
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Well, I'm probably gonna just switch to Verizon. I have no problems with them and everything should work with my phone again.
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After many conversations with HTC and Sprint it appears Sprint has locked out the ability for use of domestic data cards from competing carriers on their sim capable devices such as the HTC One. It is the consensus opinion this should be an unlock-able option to ensure fair competition of market provided the user is not under contract and is in good standing with Sprint/Carrier. This is currently in Legislation and backed by President Obama. There are also over 115,000 petitioners so far.
I am not under contract, in good standing(paid) yet Sprint says they "can't" enable the use of a competitors Domestic Sim, They did not use the term unlock yet a lock symbol appears in the APN settings next to the Carriers APN(Verizon, T-Mobile)when the Sim card is in. Sprint pretended to be helpful. One support agent even gave me the msid and false ##12345# code saying to use the msid then to unlock, how nice. Another Rep discovered My phone has no Unlock MSL as it is not carrier locked. I purchased it, own it, never activated it on the Sprint Network therefore no MSL needed to unlock. I have an unlocked device. Locked "to" Sprint but not "by" Sprint. I have the right to provision data from any carrier of my choosing but how?
Not going to accept that it "can't" be done. It must be possible to trick or bypass the lock. Example: I took my Nexus 7 LTE to Verizon for a data card. Initially the rep told me it would not be possible. I now have LTE Verizon data.
My question here is can we trick the phone into accepting a Domestic Sim? It must be possible after reading so many threads and seeing the genius Dev going on here. It must be possible to use the device at least for Internet Data at least 3G. LTE should even be possible.
1. Force Roaming with Roam Control?
2. International Rom then the phone would view our Domestic(US) card as International?
3. Flash a Verizon HTC One Rom to the Sprint HTC One to trick the phone into thinking it is Verizon enabling the Verizon Sim to work?(using the sim from my unlocked tablet)
Anyone try this with Success?
This may be possible by provisioning through the sim by the new carrier (If they will do it) like with my Nexus 7 tablet. But I am curious to know if the above/or other options might work.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2386703
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2386703
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Bad link
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Weird, it's working for me. Anyway, it's literally the first result if you google sprint htc one sim unlock.
link
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Why is that a bad link
I have looked at the link. It is the terminal emulator means to gain entry that Viperboy has made his tool from. It did not work for me. That is why i started the thread. I am pursuing other means as stated in the Original Post
Didnt take me to any thread, using the chrome browser. I guess it works for you guys.
Anyways here's another thread, I haven't tried it though.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2491840
Weird it works now.
Hey guys i got Moto X Verizon wireless and i wanted to root and install custom room is it possible with verizon wireless ?can i unlock bootloader if yes can anyone give me some sort of guide please.
L7iharsha said:
Hey guys i got Moto X Verizon wireless and i wanted to root and install custom room is it possible with verizon wireless ?can i unlock bootloader if yes can anyone give me some sort of guide please.
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First, this is a general thread. Second, read and then read again. and then ask . Im not trying to be rude, cause we've all been there. If you have a dev edition, you can unlock your bootloader, but if you dont, the bootloader is not unlockable. Although there is a root method over in Original Development
ok but can u help me regarding this i live in india im not getting signal with gsm networks it never connects to the network can u help?
L7iharsha said:
ok but can u help me regarding this i live in india im not getting signal with gsm networks it never connects to the network can u help?
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If you're on 4.4, start at the APN settings. Figure what those are for your carrier. Google it
i have correct settings it connects and immediately showing emergency only what could be the reason?
can i roll back to jellybean
I seriously hope you are trolling but in case you aren't...
Google the bands your network requires. Google the bands Verizon's MotoX has.
Google GSM developer editions bands.
Hopefully you can figure it out from here
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i cant understand what u said can u be more specific
Dude.... seriously.... read the threads....all your questions will be answered there. Otherwise, Google it.
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No offence intended....but if you can't figure this stuff out from the threads in the dev section, then you may want to study more and learn this stuff a bit before doing anything. Trying these things when you don't understand it can lead to very bad times.
Sent from my Moto X cellular telephone...
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i have correct settings it connects and immediately showing emergency only what could be the reason?
can i roll back to jellybean
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What could be the reason?
First let me start by saying, I've seen you post looking for help in several threads now. Unfortunately we don't use your carrier so there is a good chance none of us can help you resolve your specific issue. All we can do is give you the general tips that might help. That being said, the following sums up the MANY threads about using the Verizon Wireless (VZW) Moto X on a GSM carrier like ATT and T-Mobile in the USA and they should apply to you...
1. is your carrier CDMA or GSM?
If CDMA, the VZW X likely wont work with it no matter what you do as it supports the frequencies for 1xRTT/CDMA/EVDO that VZW uses which may differ from what your carrier uses, plus the authentication values needed for 1xRTT/CDMA/EVDO are hard coded to Verizon's settings and I haven't seen discussion to change these to non-Verizon settings like we could with older CDMA feature phones.
If GSM, since the VZW X is Sim unlocked, and supports quad band GSM/Edge 850/900/1800/1900Mhz, as long as your carrier uses those frequencies you have a chance of at least voice and EDGE data speeds. When it comes to HSPA or LTE data speeds, that depends on the frequencies your carrier uses vs what frequencies the VZW Moto X supports. Motorola.COM properly lists all the bands the VZW X supported when it first shipped. The Kit Kat Rom update has also added LTE Band 4 support to the VZW X, which I do not think is listed on Motorola's web page yet.
NOTE: if your carrier is GSM, you need to make sure you go into Settings -> Wireless & network settings (more..) -> Mobile Networks.. and enable roaming, and set the network mode to either Global or GSM/UMTS.
2. Do you have the right APN settings for your carrier?
In some cases, I've had the APN settings come down automatically when using a Non-VZW sim in my VZW Moto X and everything worked. Other cases, I had to manually input the APN settings before it would work and the "Emergency call only" status would go away. I also experienced even though I had entered the correct APN settings, MMS didn't work.
So its important you have the 100% correct APN settings, make sure you make no typographical errors when entering, and even then, there is a chance things might not work.
3. There is an apparent problem with voice/data LTE and such when using a GSM SIM. It impacts T-Mobile, but I haven't seen if it also impacts ATT (not likely due to ATT using different LTE bands the VZW X can't connect to). For more info, see this thread -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2578665 and start around post #14.
Finally... Can you roll back to Jellybean? This question has been covered many many times in other threads which is why you are getting "search" and "read" type responses.
For the Verizon Moto X there are 3 ROMs at this time...
Initial Shipping JB 4.2.2 ROM (Blur_Version.139.10.53.ghost_verizon.Verizon.en.US).
First OTA Update JB 4.2.2 with the Camera Update ROM (Blur_Version.139.15.1.ghost_verizon.Verizon.en.US),
KitKat 4.4 ROM (Blur_Version.140.45.5.ghost_verizon.Verizon.en.US).
If your phone is already using the "camera update rom" or Kit Kat rom, you can no longer flash the initial shipping JB rom, but you can flash the other two. There are threads discussing how to use RSDLite, or fastboot, to flash the ROMs if you need to know how.
NOTE: the "Blur_Version" in parenthesis denotes how they are listed on -> http://sbf.droid-developers.org/phone.php?device=0 and When visiting SBF.Droid-Developers, when ever you are on the phone selection page be sure to pick the Moto X, not the Droid X!!!
If you are running Kit Kat now, you could try to flash back to the Camera Update rom and see if you have better luck.
And that is all I can offer. Sorry.
I'm contacted one of my Frnd who is pro in cdma programming in India after watching this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V6rzB_FwE4A&feature=youtube_gdata_player he told me that Verizon Locked GSM radio on my Moto X he said that needs some root modification
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@KidJoe can I flash this Android 4.2.2
Blur_Version.139.15.1.ghost_verizon.Verizon.en.US
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I'm contacted one of my Frnd who is pro in cdma programming in India after watching this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V6rzB_FwE4A&feature=youtube_gdata_player he told me that Verizon Locked GSM radio on my Moto X he said that needs some root modification
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Well, then I'm sure my experience of putting a T-Mobile USA and ATT USA (both GSM carrier) SIMs in my X, a and getting them to work using GSM/HSPA only, along with the experiences of the many others who did the same and posted about it, doesn't count since your "friend who is pro" and just watched a video determined the GSM side was locked.
No, the GSM Side of the Verizon USA Moto X is not SIM locked. If it was I could not put a Non-Verizon SIM in and make it work. And even if it was, I've never seen ROOT needed to SIM Unlock. The phone is sold by Verizon as a "Global Phone" meaning it supports at least quad band GSM/EDGE (850/900/1800/1900Mhz) which are used around the globe. Now, if your carrier does't use those frequencies, it wont work.
As I said in my previous post there is what appears to be a bug or problem when using LTE with at least T-Mobile USA.. and pointed you to this thread -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2578665 and suggested you start reading at post #14... Please VISIT THAT THREAD AND READ THOSE COMMENTS!!!!!! it outlines the problem and a work around.
You mention troubles getting GSM bands in your original post, but now that you mention your friend and CDMA, I'll go back to what I posted. If your carrier uses CDMA, the VZW X wont work. But you haven't stated if your carrier uses CDMA or GSM, just that you can't get GSM Bands. If the SIM you are trying to use if from a carrier that only uses GSM Bands, that is one thing. But if the carrier uses CDMA its something else.
L7iharsha said:
@KidJoe can I flash this Android 4.2.2
Blur_Version.139.15.1.ghost_verizon.Verizon.en.US
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Did you read where I said there were 3 roms for the VZW X currently? What was ROM #2?? And I said that if you were on the Camera Update, or Kit Kat, you could flash either of those two roms, just not the initial shipping rom. So yes, if your phone is a Verizon Wireless USA Moto X, you can flash that as it is the #2 aka Camera Update rom.
Forgive me for sounding a bit frustrated, but I took the time to type that up, and you obviously didn't read it, nor did you give details of your carrier, what frequencies you were trying to use, etc.
Now, you mention that you have a "Frnd who is pro in cdma programming in India " then why not have him/her help you solve this?
I have the same bands in India my carrier support em there is no carrier or band issue the main point is my Frnd and my Old Verizon Moto X With GSM Working fine only mine not working !!that's why I'm worried even My droid Ultra Working fine with Indian GSM
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I am curious to know what happened to this phone in the last one month. @L7iharsha: Were you finally able to resolve the issue of voice calls not working on your GSM carrier with your Moto X Verizon version?
Can anybody give me some info on the moto x republic wireless varient? I'm thinking of switching to republic wireless and grabbing the moto x. How is the development for that varient? Does it have root,unlock boot loader,Roms,etc? Or would the Roms for the moto x work as a unified thing? Would greatly appreciate more info on this. Thanks
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Can anybody give me some info on the moto x republic wireless varient? I'm thinking of switching to republic wireless and grabbing the moto x. How is the development for that varient? Does it have root,unlock boot loader,Roms,etc? Or would the Roms for the moto x work as a unified thing? Would greatly appreciate more info on this. Thanks
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A new (if you can find one to order) Republic Wireless Moto X (XT1049) will likely come with Android 4.4.2 (that's the most recent Android version for Republic Wireless). On 4.4.2, you can unlock the bootloader using jcase's Sunshine exploit app and get root by flashing a custom recovery. You can also GSM SIM-unlock if you want (by flashing to a Sprint ROM and back). You will not find much of anything in the way of custom developed ROMs for the RW Moto X. If you flash a custom rom such as CyanogenMod, at the very least you will no longer have the hybrid WIFI calling features that Republic Wireless adds in themselves. I'm not sure whether it would even activate or work at all through Republic's service. Any custom ROM for the Republic Wireless Moto X will likely need to be a tweaked version of the stock base ROM.
EDIT: It looks like RW is still selling the Moto X (2013). I wonder when they will run out.
is there an easy way to convert the Republic Wireless Moto X to a sprint variant? Actually it doesnt matter as long as I can have the gsm part unlocked. Can the RW variant be sim unlocked for use with gsm carriers?
marcviado said:
Can anybody give me some info on the moto x republic wireless varient? I'm thinking of switching to republic wireless and grabbing the moto x. How is the development for that varient? Does it have root,unlock boot loader,Roms,etc? Or would the Roms for the moto x work as a unified thing? Would greatly appreciate more info on this. Thanks
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If you decide to go with RW, use the link in my signature. It will save you $20 off your service.
x000x said:
is there an easy way to convert the Republic Wireless Moto X to a sprint variant? Actually it doesnt matter as long as I can have the gsm part unlocked. Can the RW variant be sim unlocked for use with gsm carriers?
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No, and no.
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No, and no.
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so it is basically worthless junk unless a person wants to use it on republic. gotcha.
x000x said:
so it is basically worthless junk unless a person wants to use it on republic. gotcha.
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Unless you want to use it outside the US, I don't know why you'd want to use a carrier other than Republic. But you could use it as WiFi only, especially with calling now available with Google Hangouts.
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Unless you want to use it outside the US, I don't know why you'd want to use a carrier other than Republic. But you could use it as WiFi only, especially with calling now available with Google Hangouts.
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I bought it off ebay, from the description I thought I was buying a sprint version, I returned it but it got sent back to me due to the seller having an invalid shipping address. I'm not really interested in republic, and wondering what else it could be used for. Looks like the options are slim. Maybe I'll just re-sell it.
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If you decide to go with RW, use the link in my signature. It will save you $20 off your service.
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Sam, firstly thanks a lot for your hard work in with the sim unlock. It is absolutely amazing stuff and reading about your journey was super interesting.
I have ONE question though, and I've looked around but I'm unable to find the answer over here. If I buy a XT1056 (sprint), and use your unlock method and a unlocked bootloader, and if I flashed a X1049 ROM onto it (assuming I would be able to do that) would I be able to use the device on Republic Wireless?
My guess is probably not, as I'm thinking that RW is pretty specific with their MEID #s. But, that being said, I don't really know.
As far as options on Republic, you pretty much have the best option that you have for all Moto X:
You really don't necessarily want an aftermarket rom, as it breaks things like Active Notifications and the like. On RW, you'd totally break your service.
That's why God invented Xposed. There sure are a ton of modifications that can be done through Xposed...in short...it rules.
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Sam, firstly thanks a lot for your hard work in with the sim unlock. It is absolutely amazing stuff and reading about your journey was super interesting.
I have ONE question though, and I've looked around but I'm unable to find the answer over here. If I buy a XT1056 (sprint), and use your unlock method and a unlocked bootloader, and if I flashed a X1049 ROM onto it (assuming I would be able to do that) would I be able to use the device on Republic Wireless?
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Hi. @SubliminalME is correct -- you still won't be able to use it on RW.
You will however, be able to use an unlocked XT1056 on Sprint (assuming clean esn) and any GSM provider. The Sprint variant (or bootloader-unlocked RW unit -- they can be sim-unlocked too) supports full HSPA+ on AT&T and its MVNOs, and supports HSPA+ only in re-farmed areas for T-Mobile and its MVNOs (non-refarmed areas will only get EDGE data). No LTE on any carrier except Sprint - unless your carrier just happens to use band 25 (1900mhz) LTE..
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Hi. @SubliminalME is correct -- you still won't be able to use it on RW.
You will however, be able to use an unlocked XT1056 on Sprint (assuming clean esn) and any GSM provider. The Sprint variant (or bootloader-unlocked RW unit -- they can be sim-unlocked too) supports full HSPA+ on AT&T and its MVNOs, and supports HSPA+ only in re-farmed areas for T-Mobile and its MVNOs (non-refarmed areas will only get EDGE data). No LTE on any carrier except Sprint - unless your carrier just happens to use band 25 (1900mhz) LTE..
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Thanks @samwathegreat and @SubliminalME
I don't install custom roms anymore, Xposed has given me everything I wanted. From a rooting/using Xposed etc standpoint, what would you guys recommend? RW Moto X on RW, Sprint/RW Moto X on Ting/Cricket/Straight Talk (after unlocking etc) or Nexus 5 on Ting/Cricket/Straight Talk? I live in Chicago and it appears this area has been "refarmed" by T-Mobile, but currently on my Galaxy Nexus I'm not getting very good reception.
Hi,
I got Moto X ( FCC ID: IHDT56PA2 from the box, which means its XT1053 model for unlocked GSM US version-retail, sold by Moto),it can be used with TMob. and ATT.
I was planning to use it in Canada on Wind Mobile, AWS bands 1700, and 2100. So far everything is theoretically OK, bands are there, BUT after plugging Sim from Wind phone does not recognizes the Wind network...maybe this is not what the box said??? How can I check exact model...it looks to me that maybe its xt1058 which does not have band 1700.
In menus About Phone I find : model Moto X only, Baseband version MSM8960PRO_BP_2323.038.123.00R, Kitkat 4.4.3 but nothing about exact model
Please help! It looks like I have to return it on Ebay...what other options do I have ?/
Lino
lino96 said:
Hi,
I got Moto X ( FCC ID: IHDT56PA2 from the box, which means its XT1053 model for unlocked GSM US version-retail, sold by Moto),it can be used with TMob. and ATT.
I was planning to use it in Canada on Wind Mobile, AWS bands 1700, and 2100. So far everything is theoretically OK, bands are there, BUT after plugging Sim from Wind phone does not recognizes the Wind network...maybe this is not what the box said??? How can I check exact model...it looks to me that maybe its xt1058 which does not have band 1700.
In menus About Phone I find : model Moto X only, Baseband version MSM8960PRO_BP_2323.038.123.00R, Kitkat 4.4.3 but nothing about exact model
Please help! It looks like I have to return it on Ebay...what other options do I have ?/
Lino
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Check the back of your phone all the way down.. it will tell if its 1053 or 1058 or 1052
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mac1996 said:
Check the back of your phone all the way down.. it will tell if its 1053 or 1058 or 1052
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No, it does not . No any signs on the back . I did try to chat with Motorola support but no result either.
lino96 said:
No, it does not . No any signs on the back . I did try to chat with Motorola support but no result either.
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XT1049 Republic Wireless
XT1053 GSM Developer Edition, T-Mobile
XT1055 U.S. Cellular
XT1056 Sprint
XT1058 AT&T
XT1060 Verizon Wireless
Even this does not help plug your phone into the PC ..it will say the model number
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mac1996 said:
XT1049 Republic Wireless
XT1053 GSM Developer Edition, T-Mobile
XT1055 U.S. Cellular
XT1056 Sprint
XT1058 AT&T
XT1060 Verizon Wireless
Even this does not help plug your phone into the PC ..it will say the model number
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Thank you very much , it is so simple .......so I have xt1053, now it has 1700,2100 mhz (aws ? I presume) but it still does not work on my provider in Canada, Wind Mobile.
Today I visited another store of Wind M. and was told that to them it looks like phone works with their SIM only in 2g which is reserved for Wind Roaming only.When I go to Settings-Mobile Networks-Preferred Network Type: I get only 2options :Automatic (ticked) and 2G not indicated. Is it the same on yours XT-1053
On my Galaxy s2x I get different choices such as:GSM/HSPA (Auto), GSM only , HSPA only so my phone which is pentaband works perfect. Here I dont have an option to forced it to work on HSPA only.
Any suggestions ??
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Thank you very much , it is so simple .......so I have xt1053, now it has 1700,2100 mhz (aws ? I presume) but it still does not work on my provider in Canada, Wind Mobile.
Today I visited another store of Wind M. and was told that to them it looks like phone works with their SIM only in 2g which is reserved for Wind Roaming only.When I go to Settings-Mobile Networks-Preferred Network Type: I get only 2options :Automatic (ticked) and 2G not indicated. Is it the same on yours XT-1053
On my Galaxy s2x I get different choices such as:GSM/HSPA (Auto), GSM only , HSPA only so my phone which is pentaband works perfect. Here I dont have an option to forced it to work on HSPA only.
Any suggestions ??
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My device is XT 1053 TMO...(STOCK ROOTED)
I get same 2 options :Automatic (ticked) and 2G ...I USE GRAVITY BOX & XPOSED MODULES TO DO NETWORK TWEAKS LIKE switching from 3g to 4g & getting options like hspa/LTE
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lino96 said:
Settings-Mobile Networks-Preferred Network Type: I get only 2options :Automatic (ticked) and 2G not indicated. Is it the same on yours XT-1053
On my Galaxy s2x I get different choices such as:GSM/HSPA (Auto), GSM only , HSPA only so my phone which is pentaband works perfect. Here I dont have an option to forced it to work on HSPA only.
Any suggestions ??
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Before you worry about rooting or anything drastic I suggest you take the situation one step at a time:
- Forget data, do you have cell signal? if no, check sim.
- Is your APN setting correct for your network? check Settings->Wireless & Networks More->Mobile Networks->Access Point Names
- To set HSPA only you're going to have to use the "Phone Info" screen. Normally to get that screen you'd dial *#*#4636#*#* but that doesn't work so you need a workaround. if you have a third party launcher or if you have the app called Anycut you can create an activity shortcut to Phone Info on your home screen. Another option is to use apps that open the Phone Info for you, and that's all they do. I use the app called Radio Switcher.
- Once you're in Phone Info screen be careful not to touch anything except the option that says "Set preferred network type:" and select WCDMA Only.
- This setting might not normally stick upon reboot. For my experimentation and success in making it stick upon reboot see my post here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=55810041&postcount=11
And BTW the back of your phone should have the model number near the bottom, it's just hard to see because they imprinted it to look invisible when looking straight at it. Just twist and turn and hold it so the light catches it just right to make it easy to see.
Gentlemen and especially dtg7,
Thank You very much for your help, Radio Switcher works beautifully with my XT1053 ...WCDMA Only sticks even after reboot, perfect...now only how to get rid of that notification about available update to kitkat 4.4.4. Do not want to upgrade because of problems with battery life and some other stuff not working properly (popular topic on the net) ?? Does this update pushes also some Motorola software updates apart from 4.4.4 i.e camera etc. ??
lino96 said:
No, it does not . No any signs on the back . I did try to chat with Motorola support but no result either.
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Is there the word "Developer Edition" on the back cover? If yes, you can see very small silver color words near microphone.
XT1053, assembled in USA.
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how to get rid of that notification about available update to kitkat 4.4.4. Do not want to upgrade because of problems with battery life and some other stuff not working properly (popular topic on the net) ?? Does this update pushes also some Motorola software updates apart from 4.4.4 i.e camera etc. ??
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Disabling update will probably require root, but here's one thing you can try without root. In Settings->Apps->All find the app MotorolaOTA and open it's settings. Then just uncheck the "show notifications" box.
With root though, that has already been discussed here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/moto-x-qa/apps-to-block-ota-rooted-moto-x-t2714410
but before that you'd have to root your phone. to do that you and being on 4.4.3 you have two options:
1) unlock your bootloader, flash a custom recovery, then flash superSU. details are abundantly available. important thing to note is unless you have the Developer Edition you'll lose any warranty you had. if you don't want to lose warranty you have option two.
2) use TowelPieRoot method. this is an exploit that can be done on a locked bootloader so your warranty would be fine. http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/themes-apps/root-towelpieroot-motorola-devices-t2825059
If you do decide to root, whichever method you use, make sure to return your phone to stock condition before trying to take future updates, like the one to Lollipop. For method one that means flashing back stock recovery. For method two I believe the towelpieroot app comes with an uninstall option. For the OTA disabling that means undoing whatever you did.
FYI I did take the 4.4.4 update and I can confirm battery did take a hit. Going from 4.4.2 to 4.4.3 battery gained a lot it seemed, visibly so. The first few days of 4.4.4 were pretty bad. After clearing device cache and after a few days it became more reasonable but still seemed less than 4.4.3. Other than that have had no problems with 4.4.4.
Why did I take 4.4.4 well for one it's a security update, nothing changed from 4.4.3 except a fix for security issues. second, my guess was we won't have to wait long for lollipop after Nov 3. time will tell if that's correct.
Thankq
mac1996 said:
Check the back of your phone all the way down.. it will tell if its 1053 or 1058 or 1052
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Hey thanks its there my model no..
So, i've been trying to help @Wile_e with his xt1250 let me start from the beginning.
he bought an XT1250 for Cellcom, He wants to use GSM while he is on Finland and Wants to use CDMA on verizon on USA.
Actually he is trying to use with Carrier Saunalahti the carrier uses 900/1800/2100 GSM bands and those are supported by Droid Turbo/ Moto Maxx.
For some reason when he pops in the sim card he says it cant found any networks, but he puts it in on a RAZR I and it works.
I made him look into Global mode and GSM/LTE, also nothing.
First thing i made him do was, Unlock the bootloader.
Then i made him install the unbranded Firmware for XT1250.
He did that, nothing changed, no networks detected.
Then i made him flash droid turbo radio, same nothing happened and lost wifi, so, thats not a way.
so im thinking as xt1250 is closer to moto maxx, recommend him flash moto maxx kitkat radio, but im afraid it will lose the CDMA properties.
im also thinking into flashing full lollipop but that would make him not come back to stock xt1250 firmware due to gt.bin updating.
i also remember someone said that moto turbo firmware and radio had both options but im not sure.
what do you guys think will be a good solution?
invoking the help of @chazzmat , @Semseddin , @Skrilax_CZ
Has he actually tried to choose an APN?
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The way my Moto Maxx was locked to Claro until the dealer unlocked it, could be something similar? Can an online service "unlock" it for him?
I was thinking last night we tried to use the XT1250 original with the Droid Turbo radio. What if we used the radio from cyanogenmod? I imagine that team has unlocked all radios, no?
I think it is not globally unlocked like like XT1254 since it has the basic gsm bands for sure.
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The way my Moto Maxx was locked to Claro until the dealer unlocked it, could be something similar? Can an online service "unlock" it for him?
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Semseddin said:
I think it is not globally unlocked like like XT1254 since it has the basic gsm bands for sure.
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This phone definitely works with Verizon (many, many people have proved this) -- but this specific carrier (Cellcom) may have locked the global capabilities. Just needs to be unlocked.
How to Unlock Motorola Phones
http://www.wikihow.com/Unlock-Motorola-Phones-with-Windows
When you buy a new mobile phone you will probably get a good deal by signing up with a service provider at the same time. To make sure you stick with the plan, your service provider will lock your phone, making it impossible to use the phone with other providers or take advantage of the full GSM capabilities of your handset when traveling the world. Nor will you be able to use your sim card in other phones, or other sim cards in your phone. Unlocking the phone gets rid of these limitations and allows you to use multiple sim cards and multiple providers on your phone, in addition to greatly increasing the resale value of the phone.
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http://www.cellcom.com/unlocking-devices.html said:
Unlocking Devices
Cellcom does not lock most devices, including devices that were released after February 2015. Our devices are typically not programmed with locks or unique service programming codes, so there is no need to perform any "unlocking". "Unlocking" a device refers only to disabling software that would prevent a consumer from attempting to activate a device designed for one carrier's network on another carrier's network, even if that network is technologically compatible.
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This is from cellcom page
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This is from cellcom page
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Well, the phone was released before Februrary 2015, and they say "most".
Something is blocking the GSM.
I still haven't heard that he changed to LTE/GSM from LTE/CDMA/GSM. I know he wants to use CDMA in U.S. but for now change it just to see...
Also haven't heard that he manually chose an APN.
Those were my other two suggestions...
Then there's the unlocking thing to try, even if Cellcom claims it's not locked.
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Well, the phone was released before Februrary 2015, and they say "most".
Something is blocking the GSM.
I still haven't heard that he changed to LTE/GSM from LTE/CDMA/GSM. I know he wants to use CDMA in U.S. but for now change it just to see...
Also haven't heard that he manually chose an APN.
Those were my other two suggestions...
Then there's the unlocking thing to try, even if Cellcom claims it's not locked.
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he already did the apn things and band stuff. maybe the phone its from the last year so not yet unlocked?
Yes I've tried all suggestions, sorry for not posting earlier about it. I suppose I could try the unlocking, don't see a downside to trying. But wouldn't flashing a new ROM/Radio bypass that lock anyway?
I'm going to attempt contacting the carrier for an unlock code, but I am not too hopeful as I am not a customer of theirs. In the event they say no, does anybody know of a reputable imei unlocking company? I'd prefer not to trust the first one in my google results. Thanks!
Swiftunlocks.com
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Radio is likely not to be compatible, since there is actual HW difference (you can flash the radio from Brazil XT1225, and in build.prop under /system change ro.fsg-id from "lra" to "singlela"), same thing needs to be done when using verizon radio I think, but unsure if that doesn't have the XT1250 LRA bundled with itself. You can switch to VZW radio if you change ro.fsg-id from "lra' to "verizon". To play with ro.fsg-id, check the files under /fsg - then the radio will select the one in format as: quark_XXXX_N.img.gz, where N is just some number and it XXXX is what's under your ro.fsg-id.
You can try lollipop for VZW freely with unlocked bootloader, since not being to able to downgrade bootloader / gpt.bin isn't a big deal with that (just be careful not to re-lock your device or apply OTA after downgrade).
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Thanks but unfortunately the Moto Maxx is not listed as one of their phones that can be unlocked. And not surprising no other imei unlocker that I've found has it listed as an un-lockable device.
If that was good enough news, here's some more.
From a discussion with Cellcom today:
Cellcom: There is no way to unlock it with our system. The process cannot be reversed if it was locked. Our company does not have that ability.
Looks like I am scrod, unless I can navigate the unlocking process manually.
I believe in what Cellcom told to you, You might try your luck contacting motorola usa - white gloves deparment. Btw did you try another foreign simcard from another operator in your maxx ? (assuming the simcard is broken)
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I believe in what Cellcom told to you, You might try your luck contacting motorola usa - white gloves deparment. Btw did you try another foreign simcard from another operator in your maxx ? (assuming the simcard is broken)
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I haven't tried another SIM but I do use this SIM currently in my other phone, the Moto RAZR I. I also used this same SIM in my Droid Turbo when it was still alive. So I don't think it's the SIM card.
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Thanks but unfortunately the Moto Maxx is not listed as one of their phones that can be unlocked. And not surprising no other imei unlocker that I've found has it listed as an un-lockable device.
If that was good enough news, here's some more.
From a discussion with Cellcom today:
Cellcom: There is no way to unlock it with our system. The process cannot be reversed if it was locked. Our company does not have that ability.
Looks like I am scrod, unless I can navigate the unlocking process manually.
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I wish they could give you a clear answer if it's locked or not.
That's the only reason I can come up with at the moment.
By law U.S. carriers are required to unlock phones so you can use on other carriers.
I would remind them of that, see if it motivates them to help you.
It appears I have come to a dead end. We have exhausted all suggestions here as well as all ideas that have arisen in-between. Thanks to all that offered support, especially @Jaocagomez. It is all appreciated.
When I head back Stateside I will be selling this phone and picking up another Droid Turbo.
Cheers.
Actually there's a thing that doesn't seem right. I've just noticed on the screens (in the other thread) that it does not recognise that the SIM is inserted, while if it's a carrier lock, it should usually recognise inserted SIM but refuse to register on the network. I wonder if there's actual hardware problem with reading the SIM card.
btw. Anyway I'd recommend buying XT1225 over XT1254, works just fine with Sonera and and supports all their 4G bands, and so it does in US for AT&T.
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Actually there's a thing that doesn't seem right. I've just noticed on the screens (in the other thread) that it does not recognise that the SIM is inserted, while if it's a carrier lock, it should usually recognise inserted SIM but refuse to register on the network. I wonder if there's actual hardware problem with reading the SIM card.
btw. Anyway I'd recommend buying XT1225 over XT1254, works just fine with Sonera and and supports all their 4G bands, and so it does in US for AT&T.
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No it does recognize the SIM is inserted, but cannot connect to any tower. I've taken some screenshots with the SIM unloaded as I still need to communicate (via my Razr I).
Unfortunately I need the CDMA portion of the XT1254, this is why I took such a gamble on the XT1250. Where I work in NY Verizon (CDMA) is the strongest signal by far.
The odd part is we're switching our service from Saunalahti to Elisa, and for a moment I inserted the yet-to-be activated SIM into my XT1250 and for a moment it recognized Sonera and Elisa's networks. But I couldn't do anything since the SIM was not activated. It might have been a fluke, but it gave me hope for a bit longer.
I still cannot understand how I can unlock the bootloader, re flash new ROMs, update the radios but still have the GSM bands 'locked'. This should be solvable. I just don't have the knowledge in this field to go any further, but this still feels to me like something is missing. It kills me to give up on this handset.
Ah I see. It still doesn't make much sense. Moto used to only lock other US carriers. Hmm anyway I wonder if you happen to have your IMEI blacklisted on Saunalahti / Elisa (more info: http://asiakastuki.elisa.fi/ohje/8/ ).
Also radio is separate from unlocking the bootloader, signature is enforcef there despite unlocking the boooader, for security & certification reasons. That's why it still doesn't help if it's sim locked.