Can anybody give me some info on the moto x republic wireless varient? I'm thinking of switching to republic wireless and grabbing the moto x. How is the development for that varient? Does it have root,unlock boot loader,Roms,etc? Or would the Roms for the moto x work as a unified thing? Would greatly appreciate more info on this. Thanks
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Can anybody give me some info on the moto x republic wireless varient? I'm thinking of switching to republic wireless and grabbing the moto x. How is the development for that varient? Does it have root,unlock boot loader,Roms,etc? Or would the Roms for the moto x work as a unified thing? Would greatly appreciate more info on this. Thanks
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A new (if you can find one to order) Republic Wireless Moto X (XT1049) will likely come with Android 4.4.2 (that's the most recent Android version for Republic Wireless). On 4.4.2, you can unlock the bootloader using jcase's Sunshine exploit app and get root by flashing a custom recovery. You can also GSM SIM-unlock if you want (by flashing to a Sprint ROM and back). You will not find much of anything in the way of custom developed ROMs for the RW Moto X. If you flash a custom rom such as CyanogenMod, at the very least you will no longer have the hybrid WIFI calling features that Republic Wireless adds in themselves. I'm not sure whether it would even activate or work at all through Republic's service. Any custom ROM for the Republic Wireless Moto X will likely need to be a tweaked version of the stock base ROM.
EDIT: It looks like RW is still selling the Moto X (2013). I wonder when they will run out.
is there an easy way to convert the Republic Wireless Moto X to a sprint variant? Actually it doesnt matter as long as I can have the gsm part unlocked. Can the RW variant be sim unlocked for use with gsm carriers?
marcviado said:
Can anybody give me some info on the moto x republic wireless varient? I'm thinking of switching to republic wireless and grabbing the moto x. How is the development for that varient? Does it have root,unlock boot loader,Roms,etc? Or would the Roms for the moto x work as a unified thing? Would greatly appreciate more info on this. Thanks
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If you decide to go with RW, use the link in my signature. It will save you $20 off your service.
x000x said:
is there an easy way to convert the Republic Wireless Moto X to a sprint variant? Actually it doesnt matter as long as I can have the gsm part unlocked. Can the RW variant be sim unlocked for use with gsm carriers?
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No, and no.
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brainwash1 said:
No, and no.
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so it is basically worthless junk unless a person wants to use it on republic. gotcha.
x000x said:
so it is basically worthless junk unless a person wants to use it on republic. gotcha.
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Unless you want to use it outside the US, I don't know why you'd want to use a carrier other than Republic. But you could use it as WiFi only, especially with calling now available with Google Hangouts.
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Unless you want to use it outside the US, I don't know why you'd want to use a carrier other than Republic. But you could use it as WiFi only, especially with calling now available with Google Hangouts.
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I bought it off ebay, from the description I thought I was buying a sprint version, I returned it but it got sent back to me due to the seller having an invalid shipping address. I'm not really interested in republic, and wondering what else it could be used for. Looks like the options are slim. Maybe I'll just re-sell it.
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If you decide to go with RW, use the link in my signature. It will save you $20 off your service.
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Sam, firstly thanks a lot for your hard work in with the sim unlock. It is absolutely amazing stuff and reading about your journey was super interesting.
I have ONE question though, and I've looked around but I'm unable to find the answer over here. If I buy a XT1056 (sprint), and use your unlock method and a unlocked bootloader, and if I flashed a X1049 ROM onto it (assuming I would be able to do that) would I be able to use the device on Republic Wireless?
My guess is probably not, as I'm thinking that RW is pretty specific with their MEID #s. But, that being said, I don't really know.
As far as options on Republic, you pretty much have the best option that you have for all Moto X:
You really don't necessarily want an aftermarket rom, as it breaks things like Active Notifications and the like. On RW, you'd totally break your service.
That's why God invented Xposed. There sure are a ton of modifications that can be done through Xposed...in short...it rules.
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Sam, firstly thanks a lot for your hard work in with the sim unlock. It is absolutely amazing stuff and reading about your journey was super interesting.
I have ONE question though, and I've looked around but I'm unable to find the answer over here. If I buy a XT1056 (sprint), and use your unlock method and a unlocked bootloader, and if I flashed a X1049 ROM onto it (assuming I would be able to do that) would I be able to use the device on Republic Wireless?
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Hi. @SubliminalME is correct -- you still won't be able to use it on RW.
You will however, be able to use an unlocked XT1056 on Sprint (assuming clean esn) and any GSM provider. The Sprint variant (or bootloader-unlocked RW unit -- they can be sim-unlocked too) supports full HSPA+ on AT&T and its MVNOs, and supports HSPA+ only in re-farmed areas for T-Mobile and its MVNOs (non-refarmed areas will only get EDGE data). No LTE on any carrier except Sprint - unless your carrier just happens to use band 25 (1900mhz) LTE..
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Hi. @SubliminalME is correct -- you still won't be able to use it on RW.
You will however, be able to use an unlocked XT1056 on Sprint (assuming clean esn) and any GSM provider. The Sprint variant (or bootloader-unlocked RW unit -- they can be sim-unlocked too) supports full HSPA+ on AT&T and its MVNOs, and supports HSPA+ only in re-farmed areas for T-Mobile and its MVNOs (non-refarmed areas will only get EDGE data). No LTE on any carrier except Sprint - unless your carrier just happens to use band 25 (1900mhz) LTE..
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Thanks @samwathegreat and @SubliminalME
I don't install custom roms anymore, Xposed has given me everything I wanted. From a rooting/using Xposed etc standpoint, what would you guys recommend? RW Moto X on RW, Sprint/RW Moto X on Ting/Cricket/Straight Talk (after unlocking etc) or Nexus 5 on Ting/Cricket/Straight Talk? I live in Chicago and it appears this area has been "refarmed" by T-Mobile, but currently on my Galaxy Nexus I'm not getting very good reception.
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Hey all,
I'm looking at purchasing a Moto X (possibly two, if my wife replaces her iPhone...). I'm currently not tied to any particular carrier, but I'd like to keep my options as open as possible. I'm going to buy the phone/s at full price, and then bring them to whatever carrier/service/MVNO I end up with.
From what I understand so far, there are two basic models of the Moto X -- one for Verizon (CDMA), and one for GSM-based networks.
Here's my basic question: What's the difference between these phones??
The Verizon website lists the Moto X as a 'global' phone, which implies that it has a GSM radio in it, right?
If so, does that imply that the 'Tmobile' (or otherwise GSM-based) Moto X has a CDMA radio?
Then, as if I'm not confused enough, I find the 'Developer' edition of the Moto X... in two versions -- one for Verizon, and the other for 'GSM'. The developer edition provides an unlockable bootloader... cool, I'm a fan of that! But!! Isn't the Moto X part of the Motorola Bootloader Unlock program? It is (hxxps://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/87215)... so what's the difference between the 'Developer' edition, and the regular edition?
I'm sorry if these are silly questions -- but I've spent at least an hour Googling today, and didn't find any answers that I found conclusive. Thanks for any help you can give!!
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Hey all,
I'm looking at purchasing a Moto X (possibly two, if my wife replaces her iPhone...). I'm currently not tied to any particular carrier, but I'd like to keep my options as open as possible. I'm going to buy the phone/s at full price, and then bring them to whatever carrier/service/MVNO I end up with.
From what I understand so far, there are two basic models of the Moto X -- one for Verizon (CDMA), and one for GSM-based networks.
Here's my basic question: What's the difference between these phones??
The Verizon website lists the Moto X as a 'global' phone, which implies that it has a GSM radio in it, right?
If so, does that imply that the 'Tmobile' (or otherwise GSM-based) Moto X has a CDMA radio?
Then, as if I'm not confused enough, I find the 'Developer' edition of the Moto X... in two versions -- one for Verizon, and the other for 'GSM'. The developer edition provides an unlockable bootloader... cool, I'm a fan of that! But!! Isn't the Moto X part of the Motorola Bootloader Unlock program? It is (hxxps://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/87215)... so what's the difference between the 'Developer' edition, and the regular edition?
I'm sorry if these are silly questions -- but I've spent at least an hour Googling today, and didn't find any answers that I found conclusive. Thanks for any help you can give!!
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Unless you absolutely have to have VZW for the service - do not buy the VZW model. I am on VZW and have the Dev Edition from them. VZW is always the last to get updates.
So there is just a lot going on with this phone...
There are two different Developer Editions. GSM (for AT&T and T-mobile?). I know it is for ATT and believe it is also for T-mobile. But the T-mobile Consumer Edition also has an unlockable bootloader without buying the developer edition?
Even though the MotoX is listed on Motorola's Bootloader unlock program - it is only certain models. Sprint, T-mobile, US Cellular. Verizon's is only the Developer Edition. ATT would only be the GSM Developer Edition.
My recommendation is T-mobile if you get good service from them. They are going to get updates first.
Also as far as CDMA Vs. GSM; Verizon and Sprint use CDMA technology and ATT and Tmobile and most others use GSM technology.
I know that sounded like a big mess - sorry. I am tired and its all I got for now.
The CDMA version has gsm capabilities, but the gsm version will not work on CDMA.
If I were in your position, I'd get the gsm developer edition or the T-Mobile version. Either of those should be compatible with most carriers unless you absolutely need a Verizon phone. If so get the VZW developer edition.
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thepolishguy said:
My recommendation is T-mobile if you get good service from them. They are going to get updates first.
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That would be my choice, as well. However, I'm not 100% sure I want to commit to T-Mobile, yet... their coverage seems to be the most lacking of non-Verizon carriers. I was actually thinking of activating the phone on Ting (a Spring MVNO) to begin with.
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I know that sounded like a big mess - sorry. I am tired and its all I got for now.
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No worries, I appreciate it, man.
housry23 said:
The CDMA version has gsm capabilities, but the gsm version will not work on CDMA.
If I were in your position, I'd get the gsm developer edition or the T-Mobile version. Either of those should be compatible with most carriers unless you absolutely need a Verizon phone. If so get the VZW developer edition.
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So what you're saying is that the VZW Dev edition would theoretically work on other CDMA carriers (i.e. Sprint/Sprint-based networks), and also GSM-based networks (i.e. T-Mobile), right? But that the T-Mobile version with only work on GSM carriers (i.e. not Verizon, and not Sprint)?
As much as I'd love to just commit to T-Mobile's GSM network... their coverage maps have me hesitant, heh.
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...As much as I'd love to just commit to T-Mobile's GSM network... their coverage maps have me hesitant, heh.
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With T-Mobile you don't commit, other than the cost of the phone which can be resold. They don't do contracts so you can easily switch to another carrier if needed. I've been on Verizon since their inception and I now have à T-Mobile "test" line which is working pretty well. As mentioned above, it's probably best to get the GSM dev edition since it can be used on AT&T too.
I'm nearly certain the T-Mobile version works 100% on AT&T HSPA & LTE.
I ordered one last night, so I will clear that up when it arrives next week, but I'm pretty certain I've already seen others reporting that T-Mobile works fully on AT&T and is unlocked out of the box.
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With T-Mobile you don't commit, other than the cost of the phone which can be resold. They don't do contracts so you can easily switch to another carrier if needed. I've been on Verizon since their inception and I now have à T-Mobile "test" line which is working pretty well. As mentioned above, it's probably best to get the GSM dev edition since it can be used on AT&T too.
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Gotcha. Ideally, though, I'd like a phone that would work on CDMA AND/OR GSM networks... would the VZW and/or VZW Dev Edition be capable of that? That is, could I activate on a Sprint-based CDMA network like Ting, and then switch to a GSM-based network like T-Mobile later, if I wanted?
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I'm nearly certain the T-Mobile version works 100% on AT&T HSPA & LTE.
I ordered one last night, so I will clear that up when it arrives next week, but I'm pretty certain I've already seen others reporting that T-Mobile works fully on AT&T and is unlocked out of the box.
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Awesome! Looking foward to what you find out.
I think you need a Sprint version to be able to use Ting. Last I heard, they don't flash Verizon phones to their network. I'm not sure if the Sprint version can be unlocked to be used on T-Mobile if you change your mind later. I'd highly advise just picking your carrier first before picking your phone.
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freak4dell said:
I'd highly advise just picking your carrier first before picking your phone.
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Was starting to think that myself, heh. Just kind of a bummer, because I know I want the phone -- but I don't know which carrier will end up fitting me best.
Hi there!
I am looking to get a Moto X to be used with any GSM carrier in the US and Europe.
(I don't want to root it)
Do I need to buy the Developer Edition or can I also get the No-Contract T-Mobile one (customizable via motomaker)?
Thanks in advance!
The T-mobile is unlocked and good to go, no need to buy the developer edition.
HwlHwl said:
Hi there!
I am looking to get a Moto X to be used with any GSM carrier in the US and Europe.
(I don't want to root it)
Do I need to buy the Developer Edition or can I also get the No-Contract T-Mobile one (customizable via motomaker)?
Thanks in advance!
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They're the exact same phone x1053, make sure the LTE bands are correct for the carriers you want to use (5 and 7 are x1058 only)
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The T-mobile is unlocked and good to go, no need to buy the developer edition.
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Are you absolutely sure about this? Do you know it for a fact, or have you just read it somewhere?
I contacted Motorola today, to verify that the t-mobile off-contract version indeed was sim-unlocked, but they replied that it WAS sim-locked, and also was carrying the t-mobile logo on the back.
I think it's really hard to figure out who to believe, since many are reporting that it comes sim-unlocked, but wouldn't Motorola be the one to know for sure?
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Are you absolutely sure about this? Do you know it for a fact, or have you just read it somewhere?
I contacted Motorola today, to verify that the t-mobile off-contract version indeed was sim-unlocked, but they replied that it WAS sim-locked, and also was carrying the t-mobile logo on the back.
I think it's really hard to figure out who to believe, since many are reporting that it comes sim-unlocked, but wouldn't Motorola be the one to know for sure?
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I can't verify whether it's SIM locked or not but I have one in my hand and the T-Mobile XT1053 does not have any branding on it. There is no logo on it. There are no T-Mo apps on it either.
It's unlocked. Using it with prepaid at&t.
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I'm looking to get a non contract moto X but am confused by all the versions. For instance, Republic sells it for $299.
https://republicwireless.com/phones/moto-x
Is that the same moto X sold for $349 on cyber Wednesday and Saturday at
http://www.motorola.com/us/motorola-shop-all/motorola-shop-all-sale.html
If different, what's the difference?
(**I need to be able to root the phone).
Thanks
Anderson2 said:
I'm looking to get a non contract moto X but am confused by all the versions. For instance, Republic sells it for $299.
https://republicwireless.com/phones/moto-x
Is that the same moto X sold for $349 on cyber Wednesday and Saturday at
http://www.motorola.com/us/motorola-shop-all/motorola-shop-all-sale.html
If different, what's the difference?
(**I need to be able to root the phone).
Thanks
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Republic wireless phone only works with republic wireless.
Start with your carrier then go from there. If GSM and you NEED root i suggest t-mobile or dev edition so u can unlock bootloader and always guarantee root.
What carrier are you on? As the other guy said, if you have a GSM carrier (AT&T, tmobile, other mvno's of those carriers), then go with the tmobile version. You CAN unlock the bootloader and root it, and it comes sim unlocked so you can use it on att/whatever other gsm carrier you want. If you have verizon, then get the CDMA dev edition.
aooga said:
then go with the tmobile version. You CAN unlock the bootloader and root it, and it comes sim unlocked so you can use it on att/whatever other gsm carrier you want. .
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Sorry for jacking the thread... but does the T-mo version work on AT&T LTE?
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Sorry for jacking the thread... but does the T-mo version work on AT&T LTE?
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aooga said:
What carrier are you on? As the other guy said, if you have a GSM carrier (AT&T, tmobile, other mvno's of those carriers), then go with the tmobile version. You CAN unlock the bootloader and root it, and it comes sim unlocked so you can use it on att/whatever other gsm carrier you want. If you have verizon, then get the CDMA dev edition.
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I want it as a non contract phone. Currently I'm on straighttalk and they have a system where you buy a sim from them. But I may go elsewhere. I'm debating between a moto X or a nexus 5.
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I want it as a non contract phone. Currently I'm on straighttalk and they have a system where you buy a sim from them. But I may go elsewhere. I'm debating between a moto X or a nexus 5.
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Then get a tmobile version. Sim and bootloader unlocked, so you can use it on straigttalk or att or any of those other mvno's.
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Then get a tmobile version. Sim and bootloader unlocked, so you can use it on straigttalk or att or any of those other mvno's.
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Sorry if it sounds like I'm repeating questions, but I'm not from the US.
So I'm not too familiar with mobile phones being locked and sim locked and things like these.
My question is, I'm thinking of bringing a Moto X into Singapore for my daily use.
Just wondering, according to all the above comments, I should bring in a T-Mobile version instead since sim and bootloader is not locked to any carrier?
And I got one more question
All these different carrier version, the radios are the same? or do they all differ slightly? I'm asking because in Singapore, I think the radios here are a little different from the US
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Sorry if it sounds like I'm repeating questions, but I'm not from the US.
So I'm not too familiar with mobile phones being locked and sim locked and things like these.
My question is, I'm thinking of bringing a Moto X into Singapore for my daily use.
Just wondering, according to all the above comments, I should bring in a T-Mobile version instead since sim and bootloader is not locked to any carrier?
And I got one more question
All these different carrier version, the radios are the same? or do they all differ slightly? I'm asking because in Singapore, I think the radios here are a little different from the US
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The radios all differ slightly. And yes, you should get the tmobile one since it's sim unlocked. I don't know the bands of your carrier, so you might have to look it up and compare it with the US bands.
Ok just checked. Seems like only 3G will work in Singapore. LTE here is band 3 and 7. whereas T-mobile seems to be just on band 4.
Hey guys i got Moto X Verizon wireless and i wanted to root and install custom room is it possible with verizon wireless ?can i unlock bootloader if yes can anyone give me some sort of guide please.
L7iharsha said:
Hey guys i got Moto X Verizon wireless and i wanted to root and install custom room is it possible with verizon wireless ?can i unlock bootloader if yes can anyone give me some sort of guide please.
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First, this is a general thread. Second, read and then read again. and then ask . Im not trying to be rude, cause we've all been there. If you have a dev edition, you can unlock your bootloader, but if you dont, the bootloader is not unlockable. Although there is a root method over in Original Development
ok but can u help me regarding this i live in india im not getting signal with gsm networks it never connects to the network can u help?
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ok but can u help me regarding this i live in india im not getting signal with gsm networks it never connects to the network can u help?
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If you're on 4.4, start at the APN settings. Figure what those are for your carrier. Google it
i have correct settings it connects and immediately showing emergency only what could be the reason?
can i roll back to jellybean
I seriously hope you are trolling but in case you aren't...
Google the bands your network requires. Google the bands Verizon's MotoX has.
Google GSM developer editions bands.
Hopefully you can figure it out from here
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i cant understand what u said can u be more specific
Dude.... seriously.... read the threads....all your questions will be answered there. Otherwise, Google it.
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No offence intended....but if you can't figure this stuff out from the threads in the dev section, then you may want to study more and learn this stuff a bit before doing anything. Trying these things when you don't understand it can lead to very bad times.
Sent from my Moto X cellular telephone...
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i have correct settings it connects and immediately showing emergency only what could be the reason?
can i roll back to jellybean
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What could be the reason?
First let me start by saying, I've seen you post looking for help in several threads now. Unfortunately we don't use your carrier so there is a good chance none of us can help you resolve your specific issue. All we can do is give you the general tips that might help. That being said, the following sums up the MANY threads about using the Verizon Wireless (VZW) Moto X on a GSM carrier like ATT and T-Mobile in the USA and they should apply to you...
1. is your carrier CDMA or GSM?
If CDMA, the VZW X likely wont work with it no matter what you do as it supports the frequencies for 1xRTT/CDMA/EVDO that VZW uses which may differ from what your carrier uses, plus the authentication values needed for 1xRTT/CDMA/EVDO are hard coded to Verizon's settings and I haven't seen discussion to change these to non-Verizon settings like we could with older CDMA feature phones.
If GSM, since the VZW X is Sim unlocked, and supports quad band GSM/Edge 850/900/1800/1900Mhz, as long as your carrier uses those frequencies you have a chance of at least voice and EDGE data speeds. When it comes to HSPA or LTE data speeds, that depends on the frequencies your carrier uses vs what frequencies the VZW Moto X supports. Motorola.COM properly lists all the bands the VZW X supported when it first shipped. The Kit Kat Rom update has also added LTE Band 4 support to the VZW X, which I do not think is listed on Motorola's web page yet.
NOTE: if your carrier is GSM, you need to make sure you go into Settings -> Wireless & network settings (more..) -> Mobile Networks.. and enable roaming, and set the network mode to either Global or GSM/UMTS.
2. Do you have the right APN settings for your carrier?
In some cases, I've had the APN settings come down automatically when using a Non-VZW sim in my VZW Moto X and everything worked. Other cases, I had to manually input the APN settings before it would work and the "Emergency call only" status would go away. I also experienced even though I had entered the correct APN settings, MMS didn't work.
So its important you have the 100% correct APN settings, make sure you make no typographical errors when entering, and even then, there is a chance things might not work.
3. There is an apparent problem with voice/data LTE and such when using a GSM SIM. It impacts T-Mobile, but I haven't seen if it also impacts ATT (not likely due to ATT using different LTE bands the VZW X can't connect to). For more info, see this thread -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2578665 and start around post #14.
Finally... Can you roll back to Jellybean? This question has been covered many many times in other threads which is why you are getting "search" and "read" type responses.
For the Verizon Moto X there are 3 ROMs at this time...
Initial Shipping JB 4.2.2 ROM (Blur_Version.139.10.53.ghost_verizon.Verizon.en.US).
First OTA Update JB 4.2.2 with the Camera Update ROM (Blur_Version.139.15.1.ghost_verizon.Verizon.en.US),
KitKat 4.4 ROM (Blur_Version.140.45.5.ghost_verizon.Verizon.en.US).
If your phone is already using the "camera update rom" or Kit Kat rom, you can no longer flash the initial shipping JB rom, but you can flash the other two. There are threads discussing how to use RSDLite, or fastboot, to flash the ROMs if you need to know how.
NOTE: the "Blur_Version" in parenthesis denotes how they are listed on -> http://sbf.droid-developers.org/phone.php?device=0 and When visiting SBF.Droid-Developers, when ever you are on the phone selection page be sure to pick the Moto X, not the Droid X!!!
If you are running Kit Kat now, you could try to flash back to the Camera Update rom and see if you have better luck.
And that is all I can offer. Sorry.
I'm contacted one of my Frnd who is pro in cdma programming in India after watching this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V6rzB_FwE4A&feature=youtube_gdata_player he told me that Verizon Locked GSM radio on my Moto X he said that needs some root modification
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@KidJoe can I flash this Android 4.2.2
Blur_Version.139.15.1.ghost_verizon.Verizon.en.US
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L7iharsha said:
I'm contacted one of my Frnd who is pro in cdma programming in India after watching this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V6rzB_FwE4A&feature=youtube_gdata_player he told me that Verizon Locked GSM radio on my Moto X he said that needs some root modification
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Well, then I'm sure my experience of putting a T-Mobile USA and ATT USA (both GSM carrier) SIMs in my X, a and getting them to work using GSM/HSPA only, along with the experiences of the many others who did the same and posted about it, doesn't count since your "friend who is pro" and just watched a video determined the GSM side was locked.
No, the GSM Side of the Verizon USA Moto X is not SIM locked. If it was I could not put a Non-Verizon SIM in and make it work. And even if it was, I've never seen ROOT needed to SIM Unlock. The phone is sold by Verizon as a "Global Phone" meaning it supports at least quad band GSM/EDGE (850/900/1800/1900Mhz) which are used around the globe. Now, if your carrier does't use those frequencies, it wont work.
As I said in my previous post there is what appears to be a bug or problem when using LTE with at least T-Mobile USA.. and pointed you to this thread -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2578665 and suggested you start reading at post #14... Please VISIT THAT THREAD AND READ THOSE COMMENTS!!!!!! it outlines the problem and a work around.
You mention troubles getting GSM bands in your original post, but now that you mention your friend and CDMA, I'll go back to what I posted. If your carrier uses CDMA, the VZW X wont work. But you haven't stated if your carrier uses CDMA or GSM, just that you can't get GSM Bands. If the SIM you are trying to use if from a carrier that only uses GSM Bands, that is one thing. But if the carrier uses CDMA its something else.
L7iharsha said:
@KidJoe can I flash this Android 4.2.2
Blur_Version.139.15.1.ghost_verizon.Verizon.en.US
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Did you read where I said there were 3 roms for the VZW X currently? What was ROM #2?? And I said that if you were on the Camera Update, or Kit Kat, you could flash either of those two roms, just not the initial shipping rom. So yes, if your phone is a Verizon Wireless USA Moto X, you can flash that as it is the #2 aka Camera Update rom.
Forgive me for sounding a bit frustrated, but I took the time to type that up, and you obviously didn't read it, nor did you give details of your carrier, what frequencies you were trying to use, etc.
Now, you mention that you have a "Frnd who is pro in cdma programming in India " then why not have him/her help you solve this?
I have the same bands in India my carrier support em there is no carrier or band issue the main point is my Frnd and my Old Verizon Moto X With GSM Working fine only mine not working !!that's why I'm worried even My droid Ultra Working fine with Indian GSM
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I am curious to know what happened to this phone in the last one month. @L7iharsha: Were you finally able to resolve the issue of voice calls not working on your GSM carrier with your Moto X Verizon version?
what is the difference between the xt1050 and the xt 1060, i see on ebay theres a listing for motherboards rot $29 model # xt1050 listed as a generic cdma model, phonearena has no listing on the xt1050, did google search and found link that suggest its not compatible in the us. it it possible to install the xt1050 board in device for sell in the us as a cdma device?
Don't bet on it!
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I can partially answer that. the xt1050 is a device sold by 'regional carriers'. for example, I have an xt1050 but which was sold by alltel. there are other xt1050 models sold by Inland Cellular, Illinois Valley Cellular etc. Basically the xt1050 was the model sold by very small cellular companies. I can't vouch for other models besides the one i have but my alltel xt1050 was able to be unlocked officially via moto website. I was also able to install twrp on it.
But it gets more complex. There are apparently different firmware versions for each different xt1050 model. see this page here https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/answers/prod_answer_detail/a_id/94927/p/30,6720,8696 (under ACG Regional Carriers). Now what, if anything, is different between the different firmware numbers... I've no idea.
Finally, according to this post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=56803257&postcount=60 the xt1050 actually shares the same fcc number as the xt1060. This is pretty much all the info I've gathered.
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I can partially answer that. the xt1050 is a device sold by 'regional carriers'. for example, I have an xt1050 but which was sold by alltel. there are other xt1050 models sold by Inland Cellular, Illinois Valley Cellular etc. Basically the xt1050 was the model sold by very small cellular companies. I can't vouch for other models besides the one i have but my alltel xt1050 was able to be unlocked officially via moto website. I was also able to install twrp on it.
But it gets more complex. There are apparently different firmware versions for each different xt1050 model. see this page here https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/answers/prod_answer_detail/a_id/94927/p/30,6720,8696 (under ACG Regional Carriers). Now what, if anything, is different between the different firmware numbers... I've no idea.
Finally, according to this post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=56803257&postcount=60 the xt1050 actually shares the same fcc number as the xt1060. This is pretty much all the info I've gathered.
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So what does it exactly meaan?
I am using v 1060 verizon outside the US.
Working well, haven't rooted yet and been waiting for Android L.
stevedat said:
So what does it exactly meaan?
I am using v 1060 verizon outside the US.
Working well, haven't rooted yet and been waiting for Android L.
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Can someone, say whether xt1060 is easier to root and cheaper than the former?
The 1050 is an AT&T, with 1060 being Verizon, which is more likely to cause less problemsin EU over the course of its use?
snejkatamie007 said:
Can someone, say whether xt1060 is easier to root and cheaper than the former?
The 1050 is an AT&T, with 1060 being Verizon, which is more likely to cause less problemsin EU over the course of its use?
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I have found that XT1060 means Verizon carrier - read it from a thread on somewhere of the 4rum.
I am owning that one using out of the US and everyting works fine for me now.
Rooting is just like playing around with the Rom there is nothing else.
A custom rom lacks Moto features, such as: active display, spotty, etc - a big díappointment!
Android L is pretty good with material design, but that is the only thing.
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I have found that XT1060 means Verizon carrier - read it from a thread on somewhere of the 4rum.
I am owning that one using out of the US and everyting works fine for me now.
Rooting is just like playing around with the Rom there is nothing else.
A custom rom lacks Moto features, such as: active display, spotty, etc - a big díappointment!
Android L is pretty good with material design, but that is the only thing.
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I am finding it hard to believe that Verizon phones are working worries free outwith the US with European. if I recall correctly Europe being Gsm network where Verizon phones are the other one. I really don't know, I will be going for AT&T over Verizon despite it's lack of customizability. Very disappointing ****!
snejkatamie007 said:
I am finding it hard to believe that Verizon phones are working worries free outwith the US with European. if I recall correctly Europe being Gsm network where Verizon phones are the other one. I really don't know, I will be going for AT&T over Verizon despite it's lack of customizability. Very disappointing ****!
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I got this vrz moto x 2013 by exchanging with my sony phone. I am an asian buddy. In the back of my phone there is a logo with Verizon carrier.
I am running 4.4.4 and being happy with it. Moto's features are cool stuffs.
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What country are you living in? thanks
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snejkatamie007 said:
I am finding it hard to believe that Verizon phones are working worries free outwith the US with European. if I recall correctly Europe being Gsm network where Verizon phones are the other one. I really don't know, I will be going for AT&T over Verizon despite it's lack of customizability. Very disappointing ****!
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All Verizon LTE phones come SIM unlocked, meaning that they work fine on GSM carriers. The only problem that might show up is that LTE bands will likely not match, meaning the device is limited to HSPA+.
As for which is easier to root, the Verizon one will not be easy to root unless it's a developer edition. The XT1050 might be easily rootable, but there may be trouble using it on GSM carriers. It is not the ATT version of the X, rather it is the version used for smaller regional US carriers. The ATT version of the X is the XT1058 (also the version number for the Rogers Canada model). If I remember right, there are a few threads of people having problems SIM unlocking the XT1050 to use with carriers other than US Cellular (but you might need to search that info out).
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All Verizon LTE phones come SIM unlocked, meaning that they work fine on GSM carriers. The only problem that might show up is that LTE bands will likely not match, meaning the device is limited to HSPA+.
As for which is easier to root, the Verizon one will not be easy to root unless it's a developer edition. The XT1050 might be easily rootable, but there may be trouble using it on GSM carriers. It is not the ATT version of the X, rather it is the version used for smaller regional US carriers. The ATT version of the X is the XT1058 (also the version number for the Rogers Canada model). If I remember right, there are a few threads of people having problems SIM unlocking the XT1050 to use with carriers other than US Cellular (but you might need to search that info out).
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Yes, I am referring to x1058, respectivelly At&T, I have no knowledge over a 1060, as the supplier only does 1058 and the Verizon one. With that being said, and by you marking Verizon bootloader unlockable, I guess I have no choice but to go with the AT&T and get a sunrise right after. ****e!
ps/ The dealer does infact says the Verizon one comes sim unlocked, but still the lack of customizability renders it rather unattractive in my mind!
snejkatamie007 said:
Yes, I am referring to x1058, respectivelly At&T, I have no knowledge over a 1060, as the supplier only does 1058 and the Verizon one. With that being said, and by you marking Verizon bootloader unlockable, I guess I have no choice but to go with the AT&T and get a sunrise right after. ****e!
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Sorry if I wasn't clear. The XT1060 is the Verizon Moto X model number, the XT1050 is not. I believe the XT1050, which is used for regional carriers, has CDMA capabilities like the Verizon model (again, the XT1060). If it's still on 4.4.2, the Verizon model can be unlocked via Sunshine as well, but your best bet for compatibility is the AT&T 1058, since it has the widest range of LTE bands. Good luck!
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Sorry if I wasn't clear. The XT1060 is the Verizon Moto X model number, the XT1050 is not. I believe the XT1050, which is used for regional carriers, has CDMA capabilities like the Verizon model (again, the XT1060). If it's still on 4.4.2, the Verizon model can be unlocked via Sunshine as well, but your best bet for compatibility is the AT&T 1058, since it has the widest range of LTE bands. Good luck!
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Yes , that's in line with what I was thinking of. I will go with the at&t and hope for the best!
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snejkatamie007 said:
What country are you living in? thanks
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Vietnam
So can i use xt1050 on gsm carriers in US and outside US? thanks