I'm at a crossroads. While I love the productivity features of the note series, I'm also an AOSP purist. I.e., I hate Touchwiz. The Nexus 6 is a huge device, noddoubt. And that is off putting. But Android 5.0 is absolutely gorgeous. In a perfect world, I'd have a device with the S Pen functionality and software perks of the Note, on a Nexus device. Or maybe the solution is a heavily Material Design themed Touchwiz ROM? Thoughts?
If you get the note you get both s pen functionality and aosp with custom roms. You also get a removable battery and expandable memory. The note will have android 5.0 too.
It's a bummer so many people have issues choosing from these two devices. For those people, I recommend the Nexus. You sir just needs a simple apple like os. You will probably never benefit from touchwiz or want to. That's my answer now to these kinds of people.
Im just happy they are finally offering 64gb as an option but prefer the Note 4 for various reasons.
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Would be great if a Note 4 GPE came around, with Stock Android5.0 and S Pen functionality.
Nexus 6 is amazing if you don't mind the price it will have. It can charge in 15 minutes for about 6-8 hours of use. And vanilla Android L is going to be amazing as well. The TouchWiz on Samsung phones really kill the experience unless you do the extra work to root and flash a custom ROM for a stock Android experience like the Nexus
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Nexus 6 is amazing if you don't mind the price it will have. It can charge in 15 minutes for about 6-8 hours of use. And vanilla Android L is going to be amazing as well. The TouchWiz on Samsung phones really kill the experience unless you do the extra work to root and flash a custom ROM for a stock Android experience like the Nexus
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For me the Nexus 6 is merely a large phone. What it lacks in usability and design it doesnt make up for with merely being stock android. At all. Ill use a different launcher regardless, Ill wanam xpose the sh*t out of the note 4 eventually, and I dont see a reason to get stockbased ROMs over TW at the moment. So for me the choice was very easy.
I guess that the choice is harder depending on how you use your phone.
I came to Note phones, I, II and now III, due to their Size not so much for the stylus or the multi-windows. I don't root or change anything and so the pure Android with the big screen of the Nexus 6 becomes a serious option.
It's a pain that Google has decided that the price advantage is over with Nexus phones; it would have made things so much easier.
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It's a bummer so many people have issues choosing from these two devices. For those people, I recommend the Nexus. You sir just needs a simple apple like os. You will probably never benefit from touchwiz or want to. That's my answer now to these kinds of people.
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The issue is not the ease of use, it is the blatant disregard by Samsung in the optimization of its software. They simply throw "horsepower" at the issue which is fine for a period of time but eventually the issue begins to show its face again.
While I enjoy the additional features provided by TouchWiz, I dislike the poor optimization of software, there really should be no lag or stutter on devices with processors like the ones found in the S5 and Note 4.
The Nexus 6 from a performance standpoint will be noticeably better than the Note 4 mainly because of the software.
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The Nexus 6 only exists as a JPEG on Google's website. According to the media the Note 4 is in 4M people's hands. So between reviews and owner's commentary we know how the display, camera, build quality, and performance are on the Note 4. No one knows any of that about the Nexus 6. It would be probably be wise to see how the Nexus actually performs rather than going on paper specs alone to make a proper comparison.
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The Nexus 6 only exists as a JPEG on Google's website. According to the media the Note 4 is in 4M people's hands. So between reviews and owner's commentary we know how the display, camera, build quality, and performance are on the Note 4. No one knows any of that about the Nexus 6. It would be probably be wise to see how the Nexus actually performs rather than going on paper specs alone to make a proper comparison.
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We can make assumptions based on the data provided for the Note 4.
The resolution, processor and ram are the same, logically we can assume that performance will be similar with a slight edge to the Nexus 6 based on historical comparisons of stock android vs. TouchWiz.
We can also assume that battery life will be comparable between the two since the screen sizes are roughly the same with battery capacity and processors being identical. We know that Android L has a positive impact on battery life so there is a great possibility of the Nexus 6 performing better in battery endurance tests than the Note 4 atleast until the Note 4 is also updated to Android L
While these assumptions are no substitute for the concrete testing that can be found in formal reviews, it is essentially our best bet at guaging the Nexus 6 before any reviews are released.
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The issue is not the ease of use, it is the blatant disregard by Samsung in the optimization of its software. They simply throw "horsepower" at the issue which is fine for a period of time but eventually the issue begins to show its face again.
While I enjoy the additional features provided by TouchWiz, I dislike the poor optimization of software, there really should be no lag or stutter on devices with processors like the ones found in the S5 and Note 4.
The Nexus 6 from a performance standpoint will be noticeably better than the Note 4 mainly because of the software.
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Sup msavic. Thing is, even my i5 desktop lags sometime... And we're talking about a cell phone. no doubt it's going to "lag here and there." Really not a big deal. Even the nexus has "lag" issues. Hell you should see my ipad3 lol. Either way, the Note just has so many more features its not even a close match. If you can't see that, I recommend the Nexus for you msavic. And I personally think the Nexus looks terrible lol.
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Sup msavic. Thing is, even my i5 desktop lags sometime... And we're talking about a cell phone. no doubt it's going to "lag here and there." Really not a big deal. Even the nexus has "lag" issues. Hell you should see my ipad3 lol. Either way, the Note just has so many more features its not even a close match. If you can't see that, I recommend the Nexus for you msavic. And I personally think the Nexus looks terrible lol.
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Thanks for the recommendation!
Of course there will be lag here and there, nothing is perfect but TouchWiz is filled with more than occasional lag. I have used TouchWiz for over two years now and while it has improved slightly, the experience is still lacking compared to other manufacturers.
We don't have to look at barebones stock android or even iOS to find smoother and quicker user interfaces.
HTC is able to create an extremely fluid and quick user interface that very rarely lags or experiences a slow down, LG also fills their devices to the brim with features yet maintains relatively good performance, G3 not included.
It's extremely evident that Samsung doesn't allocate enough time to software optimization, they simply sweep the problem under the rug by throwing in the fastest available processor in an effort to keep the UI quick.
I'm not sure why your i5 desktop is lagging but it's most likely due to poor optimization, my Surface Pro 3 with an i3 flies through every task I throw at it and never stutters or lags while doing so unless I attempt to do hardcore video editing at which thermal constraints and processor limits cause slow downs. Microsoft did a fabulous job of optimizing the device and it shows in the user experience. It is noticeably faster than the high end desktop I built a few years ago even though it's specs on paper are lower.
Your iPad 3 on the other hand is well known for being underpowered, the processor/GPU combo is not capable of running the high resolution screen hence why Apple released the iPad 4 with beefed up internals so quickly afterwards. Software optimization is far from the issue with the iPad 3.
Regarding the Note 4's extra features, there is quite a few which I find useful from a productivity standpoint but I find it hard to be that productive on a 5.7 inch smartphone screen when I have access to a 12 inch tablet with a full size stylus. The writing experience isn't as comfortable on such a small screen and multi-window is in my opinion better suited for larger screens.
With all that said, the Note 4 is still a good device but it is far from the productivity king everyone makes it out to be. If it is your sole device, it can get the job done but frankly there are much better devices for productivity out there.
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The LG G2 and Nexus 5 share paper specs but perform very differently and they're from the same manufacturer.
http://www.phonearena.com/reviews/Google-Nexus-5-vs-LG-G2_id3483
It's been about 2 weeks. I rarely have this issue with this on my Note 4 as far as lags go. There are hangups at times, about two or three in 2 weeks? Give me a break. All computers do this. I don't see an issue with it. To me, what matters are the little big and little stuff in touchwiz that makes my social and work life much more productive. This is not possible with other devices as they do not have these features and/or the hardware.
It also seems you don't use the s-pen at all. "there are much better devices for productivity." lol.. get out of here. I'm telling you as a working professional, there's not. Even If you don't' use the s-pen and the multiwindow features. The Note 4 has a better display, a better camera, a better battery life, better looks, sd card, and all the geeky features that a geek like myself wants. But I do use the s-pen, I do use multiwindow, all on a daily basis. The Note 4 is the Productivity King in my books. No other phones come close. And yes, the nexus is too damn big... and ugly. ^_^
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It's been about 2 weeks. I rarely have this issue with this on my Note 4 as far as lags go. There are hangups at times, about two or three in 2 weeks? Give me a break. All computers do this. I don't see an issue with it. To me, what matters are the little big and little stuff in touchwiz that makes my social and work life much more productive. This is not possible with other devices as they do not have these features and/or the hardware.
It also seems you don't use the s-pen at all. "there are much better devices for productivity." lol.. get out of here. I'm telling you as a working professional, there's not. Even If you don't' use the s-pen and the multiwindow features. The Note 4 has a better display, a better camera, a better battery life, better looks, sd card, and all the geeky features that a geek like myself wants. But I do use the s-pen, I do use multiwindow, all on a daily basis. The Note 4 is the Productivity King in my books. No other phones come close. And yes, the nexus is too damn big... and ugly. ^_^
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Why would I do work on a 5.7 inch display with a flimsy plastic S-Pen when I can use my Surface Pro 3 which has a 12 inch screen and a full size aluminum body pen? Like I said, if the Note 4 is your only device, I'm sure you can make it work but there are other more serious productivity devices out there which are better suited to the job.
In my opinion, the Note 4's productivity features max out at jotting quick notes and reminders, any serious work is better suited to the Note 10.1 or other devices.
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The Note 4 has a better display, a better camera, a better battery life, better looks, sd card, and all the geeky features that a geek like myself wants
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When did you do the extensive testing that allowed you to arrive at those conclusions? Oh right, you didn't since nobody else has either, so essentially you are spewing non-sense since you have no means of backing up the provided information besides your opinion.
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The LG G2 and Nexus 5 share paper specs but perform very differently and they're from the same manufacturer.
http://www.phonearena.com/reviews/Google-Nexus-5-vs-LG-G2_id3483
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Exactly, software plays a major role in performance, the G2 is very bloated compared to the Nexus 5 and it showed in performance. The same outcome should be seen between the Note 4 and Nexus 6.
If Samsung decided to spend some extra time debloating and further optimizing TouchWiz, their devices would truly be top of the line in all aspects of hardware and software. They have the hardware down now, they just need the software to follow.
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It's been about 2 weeks. I rarely have this issue with this on my Note 4 as far as lags go. There are hangups at times, about two or three in 2 weeks? Give me a break. All computers do this. I don't see an issue with it. To me, what matters are the little big and little stuff in touchwiz that makes my social and work life much more productive. This is not possible with other devices as they do not have these features and/or the hardware.
It also seems you don't use the s-pen at all. "there are much better devices for productivity." lol.. get out of here. I'm telling you as a working professional, there's not. Even If you don't' use the s-pen and the multiwindow features. The Note 4 has a better display, a better camera, a better battery life, better looks, sd card, and all the geeky features that a geek like myself wants. But I do use the s-pen, I do use multiwindow, all on a daily basis. The Note 4 is the Productivity King in my books. No other phones come close. And yes, the nexus is too damn big... and ugly. ^_^
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Geeky feature?
You mean latest Android update? Root and custom recovery? Flashing roms?
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Geeky feature?
You mean latest Android update? Root and custom recovery? Flashing roms?
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lol, no. That's what most androids get including the Note 4, and trust me, well get a lot ^_^ . I'm talking about the heart rate sensor, uv sensor, fingerprint (which is a blast to use with lastpass), IR remote, thermometer, pedometer, barometer etc.
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Lol I don't know man. I mean if you want to compare the note to a full blown corei5 computer, the note is doing something right.
Who dafuq needs that?
N5
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lol, no. That's what most androids get including the Note 4, and trust me, well get a lot ^_^ . I'm talking about the heart rate sensor, uv sensor, fingerprint (which is a blast to use with lastpass), IR remote, thermometer, pedometer, barometer etc.
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- The heart rate sensor is hopelessly inaccurate on the S5, you can run it three times in a row and get massively different results.
- The fingerprint sensor is essentially useless for unlocking the device, simply not ergonomic enough for one handed use even with all the various tricks people have come up with.
- UV sensor is a cool party trick but in reality I have no use for it, any weather app will tell you the UV index.
- IR Remote is essentially the only useful feature out of the bunch you posted, while I don't regularly use it at home due to no tactile feedback from the screen. I can essentially use all the functions of my current remote without looking just based on the feel and shape of the buttons. Unfortunately a glass touchscreen can't replicate that.
- The Note 4 doesn't have a thermometer, Samsung removed it starting with the S5. I used it on the S4 but it was impossible to get an accurate reading as it would pick up on the heat from your hands or from other surfaces and skew the reading. I stopped using it when it told me it was 32° C outside in the snow.
- Basically all smartphones have built in pedometers nowadays, the iPhone, HTC One M8, they all have pedometers. I prefer this feature on a wearable device though.
- Barometer, my Galaxy Nexus had this feature three years ago, most smartphones have this nowadays as it is utilized to attain a GPS lock quicker.
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Hi there after watching the unpacking event, and reading the full specs I dont really see much of an upgrade.
Yes they have added some good additions like the fingerprint scanner which is awesome, but alot of the other additions wont be used on a massive scale by all users.
Hardware wise, wasnt too inpressed on these either really, would of liked to see an octa-core version, plus the battery isnt too much of an upgrade.
But Ive found a clone version which in my eyes is better, comes with octa-core, looks exactly the same
http://www.goophone.cc/phones/goophone-s5.html
Again this is only my opinion, and of course others will feel different which is there right to do so.
I may even change my mind once ive got my hands on one and have a play, but as for right now, im quite disappointed with the S5.
And I am a Galaxy User myself currently having the Galaxy S3 and soon will have the Note 3 also.
Thanks for reading.
I'm sure this cheap knockoff will be worth every penny.
I wouldnt give you $100 for that phone ROFL. No 4G data (3G only), knockoff CPU, bigger battery 2800mah then the S4 2600mah with less talk time then the S4.
would be great but no lte? i'd like to try before I bought one haha.
It's so hard to find a flagship phone that looks good, has a replaceable battery and microsd slot.
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would be great but no lte? i'd like to try before I bought one haha.
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Hmmm... No LTE is a deal breaker. 3G is barely good enough to stream YouTube vids, and sometimes it won't even stream at all on 3G.
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It's so hard to find a flagship phone that looks good, has a replaceable battery and microsd slot.
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No, it's not at all. The Note 3 is AMAZING! You should check it out.
The Note 3 in a 5 inch form factor would be perfect (spec, looks and feel). Why couldn't they make a Note 3 Mini?
I already own the Note 2 and it's a big too big now and it weight a lot. I currently have the HTC one and while the metal body is great, it feels like you're holding a brick.
Yes I do understand that it doesnt have all the features of the original and of course the price represents that. But I just wasnt really impressed with the S5 so far. As I said my opinion may change once ive had an hands on experience with the device. Its thoughts at the moment.
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Hi there after watching the unpacking event, and reading the full specs I dont really see much of an upgrade.
Yes they have added some good additions like the fingerprint scanner which is awesome, but alot of the other additions wont be used on a massive scale by all users.
Hardware wise, wasnt too inpressed on these either really, would of liked to see an octa-core version, plus the battery isnt too much of an upgrade.
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Don't you think users will use the improved camera (a major update - not just in megapixels) and the water proofing? The improved screen with higher and lower brightness? Yes the puls-rate monitor is a bit gimmicky but unlike ALL the "air" features of S4 these functions will improve every users daily use with the phone.
Kudos for Samsung for not focusing on the one-time-wow-factor and instead improving the users daily rutine.
Yes of course i did like that they did add what users wanted. And of course everyone is going to have there own opinion of the device,
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It's so hard to find a flagship phone that looks good, has a replaceable battery and microsd slot.
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And an unlockable bootloader on a carrier that actually has service where I need it.
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Well, cell phones have reached that plateau where you can't really add anything anymore. Add too much, people cry about bloat and gimmick. Add too little, and you get this... The heck are you guys doing that you need an octocore?
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Don't you think users will use the improved camera (a major update - not just in megapixels) and the water proofing? The improved screen with higher and lower brightness? Yes the puls-rate monitor is a bit gimmicky but unlike ALL the "air" features of S4 these functions will improve every users daily use with the phone.
Kudos for Samsung for not focusing on the one-time-wow-factor and instead improving the users daily rutine.
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Speaking of everyday average users..90% won't even notice the camera is improved over the s4, so that argument doesn't work IMO.
I won't even comment on the "higher and lower brightness" because that is just lolol. Sounds like iPhone users trying to sell things android has had for years.
I'm sorry, but people are grasping when defending this phone. What I can't figure is how websites like android central praise samsung for making Touchwiz closer to vanilla android and less gaudy....but How?? They put a freaking camera shortcut on the lock screen and gave us a white battery icon, otherwise the rom grew by about a GB over the s4 and is more bloated than ever. They are following the apple footprint by locking the phone down and offering extremely minor upgrades, but I don't blame them because they still make millions by working less because people still buy this stuff like it's the best thing ever.
Note 3. That's innovation. This phone does everything. Maybe the Note 4 will arrive with features worthy of an upgrade. The normal people can have the s5 because commercials told them it was cool.
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Plus not to mention that the galaxy s5 rom will take 8gb of internal space. Bloatware much. So in essence buy the 16gb version to save money. Only have 8 gb of free storage space.
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Speaking of everyday average users..90% won't even notice the camera is improved over the s4, so that argument doesn't work IMO.
I won't even comment on the "higher and lower brightness" because that is just lolol. Sounds like iPhone users trying to sell things android has had for years.
I'm sorry, but people are grasping when defending this phone. What I can't figure is how websites like android central praise samsung for making Touchwiz closer to vanilla android and less gaudy....but How?? They put a freaking camera shortcut on the lock screen and gave us a white battery icon, otherwise the rom grew by about a GB over the s4 and is more bloated than ever. They are following the apple footprint by locking the phone down and offering extremely minor upgrades, but I don't blame them because they still make millions by working less because people still buy this stuff like it's the best thing ever.
Note 3. That's innovation. This phone does everything. Maybe the Note 4 will arrive with features worthy of an upgrade. The normal people can have the s5 because commercials told them it was cool.
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Are you really suggesting that users won't notice they take less crappy photos? That their phone is better in direct sunlight?
How exactly is Note 3 innovation? What new features did it bring that it's predecessor did not have besides the usual performance bump?
what intrigues me is the fact the s5 uses wifi and data at the same time when using the web be great to see how that works and if it really makes a difference should imagine its pretty fast?
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Plus not to mention that the galaxy s5 rom will take 8gb of internal space. Bloatware much. So in essence buy the 16gb version to save money. Only have 8 gb of free storage space.
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Actually you get 10,6 GB of free storage. The "2 GB" was MWC stuff on it.
Oh and I think the 128GB microSD card support does kind of help, no?
Wait for Galaxy note 4. I am sure sammy will give us good surprises
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Wait for Galaxy note 4. I am sure sammy will give us good surprises
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ahh yes that is true
but a friend of mine told me
"if you keep waiting for something better, you will end up waiting forever"
at the end of the day people will keep praising samsung and choose to buy it after finding out that the new HTC One will have only 2600mah battery and non removable and oppo find 7's 2k screen is washed out and you can't tell difference with 1080p screen anyway. not to mention lg g3 will have a very powerful processor like the snapdragon 805 but still laggy. i predict in the end samsung still wins although i hope i'm wrong. cheers
Hey guys my mind are messing with me, I'm so confused I had android since 2009 and now I'm thinking switching to iPhone 6+ bigger screen, I had all mobiles from HTC to Samsung, I'm afride If I'm going to buy note 4 it will be laggy on touchwiz plus they never update there phone, look at iPhone they update there iPhone 4 and it 4 years old, what do you think is this note 4 gonna be better choice?
Hey guys my mind are messing with me, I'm so confused I had android since 2009 and now I'm thinking switching to iPhone 6+ bigger screen, I had all mobiles from HTC to Samsung, I'm afride If I'm going to buy note 4 it will be laggy on touchwiz plus they never update there phone, look at iPhone they update there iPhone 4 and it 4 years old, what do you think is this note 4 gonna be better choice?
Don't get me wrong I am not fan of company, I just buy what deserves to be bought and fits my requirement, but iphone 6+ is not worth the money that's for sure, you might buy it only if you're a big fool and love to show off an expensive sh*t to your friends, better go with Note 4. And what makes you call touchwiz laggy? I had the Note 3 I never saw any touchwiz lag and with new gen of touchwiz it should be butter smooth, tho I can be wrong as I haven't used the new touchwiz just yet but I feel it will be smooth and Samsung does updates their phone, rest your choice.
Stay with Android. Trust me.
If you're thinking about gettibg a iPhone 6 why not consider a nexus 4. ???
Stay with android. After Android L update you will get speed boost.
If they weren't so grossly overpriced (over $1000 with tax for the highest range 6+, I mean come on), I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss the new iPhones. For pretty much everyone I know, their lackluster specs are all they really need. But seeing as how you're on XDA, the Note 4 is without question the better option.
I bought the 6+ and note 3 and to be honest it actually sucks. I have had iphones and note series from day 1.
The 6+ feels cheap. the siftware has issues. Not all of them are optimized so it feels like when the ipad was released. Apps looked zoomed in. I will get rid of this and get a note for sure. It just has so much more to offer than the iphone.
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If they weren't so grossly overpriced (over $1000 with tax for the highest range 6+, I mean come on), I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss the new iPhones. For pretty much everyone I know, their lackluster specs are all they really need. But seeing as how you're on XDA, the Note 4 is without question the better option.
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I don't care about phones getting dropped from updates after a couple years for a couple reasons. First off old devices on new software (I'm speaking about iOS) run like a bag of ****. My sister is using my old 4 and it runs like garbage. Secondly most people don't keep a phone for more then 2 years anyway so updates become irrelevant.
iPhones are great if you don't mind paying a premium for outdated hardware on a platform that is always behind Android. Apple does provide a fantastic warranty though, I'll give them that. Granted my S3 has never had issues and in my circle iPhones seem to be more problematic (that may not mean anything though).
For me Android is about flexibility and features that are years ahead of anything on an iPhone (for the most part). I'm patiently waiting to replace my aging S3 with a Note 4 because I believe it is the best phone of 2014.
If you get the 6+, all you see is a bigger screen, no more no less, now even with the big screen the quality is still not compare to the note4. The note4 which I have read many reviews, they all stated that it has zero lags (using snapdragon chip instead of Exynos) and the more you're going to use the phone, you will appreciate all the new features of the note4, like wide angle front camera, super smooth Spen, mutitask/multiscreen. Multitask/multiscreen is a big deal for me, imagine, while you on the phone talking, you could search the web, looking for something, circle it open messager, paste and send. Basically you could open multiple apps and flip through them like on your PC. Iphone is way lack of multitasking (none), this is one feature where note 4 is on the top. Now you should ask yourself, with the iphone beside a bigger screen what else can you do???
I thought about the 6+... no I actually stayed up, pre-ordered, but cancelled it. While 6+ is a very nice phone, I am pretty sure the next iOS update will cripple it. Apple is pushing for software optimization while staying 1GB of RAM, I have to say it is enough for now, but higher screen resolution and richer multimedia content will push the it to the limit, doesn't matter how they freeze the app while it is in background, the next time you relaunch it, it will restart the app instead of resuming it, the same problem we saw with earlier Windows Phone. The next version of iOS might even be more useful (common Apple, give us default app option, and lock screen rotation per app), I will stick with Note 4 for this year around.
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If you get the 6+, all you see is a bigger screen, no more no less, now even with the big screen the quality is still not compare to the note4. The note4 which I have read many reviews, they all stated that it has zero lags (using snapdragon chip instead of Exynos) and the more you're going to use the phone, you will appreciate all the new features of the note4, like wide angle front camera, super smooth Spen, mutitask/multiscreen. Multitask/multiscreen is a big deal for me, imagine, while you on the phone talking, you could search the web, looking for something, circle it open messager, paste and send. Basically you could open multiple apps and flip through them like on your PC. Iphone is way lack of multitasking (none), this is one feature where note 4 is on the top. Now you should ask yourself, with the iphone beside a bigger screen what else can you do???
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I agree on that Sir, but I'm just tired of touchwiz being laggy and they don't support there phone like apple do, I've heard that google gonna take over the update for all android let's hope it true but again am 95% of buying the note and the 5% is the annoying 6+
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Stay with android. After Android L update you will get speed boost.
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We can bet on that the L only coming for note 5 and s6 it always like that on Samsung devices
I got the iPhone 6, not the + but I saw it in store today. Although it's a nice phone the note 4 is the better device without a doubt. Just put the hype aside, you'll see that the note is the clear winner.
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The Note 4 was my next phone of choice. I have now seen the Plus. Tbh these phones offer a different user experience. One is not necessarily better than the other. There are features on both that are unique. It really is a difficult call. I want to see evidence of both cameras in use. Not available yet. And full features of both. But features versus user experiences are two different things.
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I agree on that Sir, but I'm just tired of touchwiz being laggy and they don't support there phone like apple do, I've heard that google gonna take over the update for all android let's hope it true but again am 95% of buying the note and the 5% is the annoying 6+
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Touchwiz on note4 is super smooth, no lags based on all the review I read. The beauty with Android is ton of options/customization, you always can just pick another launcher ) , throw in another feature to convince you - super charge 0-50% in 30min and super power saving mode give you 2 more days with only10% battery capacity left. The list just goes on and on...BTW, I believe Android L will be on note 4 when it released. Based on the history, the S3 which is 2 generation old and it's running on kitkat right now, so I'm sure Android L will be on the note 4.
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Touchwiz on note4 is super smooth, no lags based on all the review I read. The beauty with Android is ton of options/customization, you always can just pick another launcher ) , throw in another feature to convince you - super charge 0-50% in 30min and super power saving mode give you 2 more days with only10% battery capacity left. The list just goes on and on...BTW, I believe Android L will be on note 4 when it released. Based on the history, the S3 which is 2 generation old and it's running on kitkat right now, so I'm sure Android L will be on the note 4.
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Touchwiz will lag. It always has, and always will. That's not to say that the note 4 won't be great.. Samsung just adds so many useless features, and makes the ui look trashy.... So it weighs down the interface. I'm ecstatic with what the note 4 brings, and the fact that it releases on my birthday.. Happy birthday to me!! Ha! Also, L may not come to the Note 4. It takes Samsung too long to catch up to Google with firmware.. And then you have carriers that get their grubby hands on it. If it comes? Awesome! Just means it needs more optimization.. Cuz art
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they did a camera test ip6/+ vs S5 and the s5 won ,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNAHv-E1HWU
saifullah90 said:
Hey guys my mind are messing with me, I'm so confused I had android since 2009 and now I'm thinking switching to iPhone 6+ bigger screen, I had all mobiles from HTC to Samsung, I'm afride If I'm going to buy note 4 it will be laggy on touchwiz plus they never update there phone, look at iPhone they update there iPhone 4 and it 4 years old, what do you think is this note 4 gonna be better choice?
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I would get G3 ?
I am a long time Verizon customer, and after a horrible customer service issue yesterday......I am looking to switch to AT&T.
I've been on the Note 3 since October of 2013 and absolutely love the device. Since Vzw is so behind releasing devices, if I switch to AT&T I am open to two devices I am interested in.......the Note Edge and the N6. Anyone of you come from a Note to the N6, that has owned/used the N6 long enough to give me some feedback, pros/cons? I am reading a lot of negative when comparing the cameras......but am aware the N6 is vastly improved from previous. One thing I really am most concerned about is screen clarity. Just hoped for anyones direct feedback that came from a Note and is live with their N6.
Concerns:
Screen clarity,colors, overall brilliance. Samsung has been superior IMO for the last few years. My Galaxy S Fascinate, my S3, now my N3......all in my opinion had the best appearance than any comparable phone on the market at the time of their release. It is one of the biggest deciding factors I've base my devices around for the last several years. I don't want to go backwards if the N6 is noticeably less.
No external memory slot. Even though I've had an issue with the last 3 Samsung devices involving the SD card, its still nice to have that storage available, especially when storing ROM's and backup data.
No removable battery. Again going back to flashing ROM's, I'm used to devices with removable batteries.....which is critical in some cases needing to do a battery pull. Perhaps you Nexus fans can reassure me this is a non-issue.....
TIA
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I am a long time Verizon customer, and after a horrible customer service issue yesterday......I am looking to switch to AT&T.
I've been on the Note 3 since October of 2013 and absolutely love the device. Since Vzw is so behind releasing devices, if I switch to AT&T I am open to two devices I am interested in.......the Note Edge and the N6. Anyone of you come from a Note to the N6, that has owned/used the N6 long enough to give me some feedback, pros/cons? I am reading a lot of negative when comparing the cameras......but am aware the N6 is vastly improved from previous. One thing I really am most concerned about is screen clarity. Just hoped for anyones direct feedback that came from a Note and is live with their N6.
TIA
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I have the note 4 and gave it to my wife when the nexus came out. To be honest I regret it Note is way better display. Camera yes improved but Note is better then N6.
I had the Note 3 for a year. It was absolutely my favorite device I had owned yet. The Note series is great, one can't deny. I loved the large powerful device. I was so close to buying the Note 4, until I found out the Nexus 6 was coming with a 6" display. It was a no-brainer for me. I rarely ever used the spen so that wasn't a factor. I couldn't stand the idea of a rear facing speaker so the forward facing speakers on the N6 was a big plus. Power wise, well they are both power houses so no factor. Touchwiz vs pure Android, well for me pure Android was a big plus. Design of the N6 is very appealing to me. I don't have a preference, nor could I tell you the difference in the displays, They both look good to me. I can say from the Note 3 to the N6, the screen quality is at least as good. I have zero complaints with the camera. I mean it's a phone; if I want professional photos then I would use a camera. I guess in the end it's user preference but you asked for opinions/experiences so I thought I'd share mine. I don't regret nor even think about my decision to go with the N6. It's what I wanted.
Huge discussion here...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/general/note-4-vs-nexus-6-t2906800
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I have the note 4 and gave it to my wife when the nexus came out. To be honest I regret it Note is way better display. Camera yes improved but Note is better then N6.
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b.huss2 said:
I had the Note 3 for a year. It was absolutely my favorite device I had owned yet. The Note series is great, one can't deny. I loved the large powerful device. I was so close to buying the Note 4, until I found out the Nexus 6 was coming with a 6" display. It was a no-brainer for me. I rarely ever used the spen so that wasn't a factor. I couldn't stand the idea of a rear facing speaker so the forward facing speakers on the N6 was a big plus. Power wise, well they are both power houses so no factor. Touchwiz vs pure Android, well for me pure Android was a big plus. Design of the N6 is very appealing to me. I don't have a preference, nor could I tell you the difference in the displays, They both look good to me. I can say from the Note 3 to the N6, the screen quality is at least as good. I have zero complaints with the camera. I mean it's a phone; if I want professional photos then I would use a camera. I guess in the end it's user preference but you asked for opinions/experiences so I thought I'd share mine. I don't regret nor even think about my decision to go with the N6. It's what I wanted.
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Good feedback. The first reply definitely was a pretty clear opinion, but I'm happy to see a counter for the N6 with yours. I'm definitely going to go hands-on in a store tonight, but for those of you who have the N6 I feel can give better feedback since you are more adapted already.
Getting ready to add two more concerns to my OP .........keep the replies coming. :good:
The N4 screen is brighter and cooler than the Nexus, but doesn't really offer any clarity benefit to me. It would be a better performer in direct sunlight though. I had both in hand for a couple weeks and in the end the Nexus was the right device for me. I prefer a stock android build and noticed many of the Samsung additions I either ignored or turned off. Your best bet is to think about the things that are important to you and then get some time in store with both to gain an understanding of how each devices handles those things. To me it came down to the fact that touchwiz just felt heavy (although it has come a very long way) and i wasn't really utilizing the S-pen the way i thought I would. I also like the ability to have access to factory images and the strong developer support within the Nexus community.
You cant go wrong with either though. I didn't dislike the Note, I just like the Nexus more
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Huge discussion here...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/general/note-4-vs-nexus-6-t2906800
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A ton of info surely in there, but that was pre-release for both devs. Surely there are hands-on replies in the current end, but that is a lot of sifting. I'll keep browsing it in daytime if I can't get what info I am content with here though, thanks. :good:
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Thanks.
Good feedback. The first reply definitely was a pretty clear opinion, but I'm happy to see a counter for the N6 with yours. I'm definitely going to go hands-on in a store tonight, but for those of you who have the N6 I feel can give better feedback since you are more adapted already.
Getting ready to add two more concerns to my OP .........keep the replies coming. :good:
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I have no concern about the storage. I am on the cloud for years now. All my pic and music on the drive and good music. once I feel the storage are full which I never seen it I clear my storage.
Battery on the note 4 is better. You can get almost 5 to 5 and half hours SOT. On the other hand nexus will get about 4 hours SOT.
I haven't owned a Note, but I've played with a few. Most recently, I handled a Note Edge for a bit over the weekend. It is definitely a nice device. Did it have a bunch of features that made it a clear winner over the Nexus? No. The edge display, although a nice touch, felt rather gimmicky and overall not very useful. I also had problems with Touchwiz not responding properly to the stylus input. Maybe someone broke the stylus, but from what I've heard and seen about Touchwiz, my first impression was that it was bugging out. The rear-facing mono speaker sucks in comparison. Also I didn't notice anything special about the display.
In fact, I love the warmer color temperature of the Nexus 6. I'm surrounded by overly-cool LCD displays and fluorescent lighting in my office. The warmer colors of the Nexus 6 were a welcomed sight. Let's not forget that natural colors are actually warmer than your standard LCD display, and it's my opinion that the Nexus 6's display produces more true-to-life color than any of my LCDs, and the overly blue tint to Samsung devices.
There's no doubt that some may find the extra features of the Spen and Touchwiz interface a "better" experience, and some go ape**** over the changeable battery and SD slot, but are those few features worth the higher premium of a Samsung? No, not in my opinion.
I switched from Note 3 to Nexus 6. Enjoyed the Note 3 a lot, but there where some things I disliked a lot.
1) these capacitive buttons are horrible. When using mhl adapter with TV you have no buttons on TV. They take a lot of space. Display buttons extend the display when watching videos or looking at pictures.
2) touchwiz. great - these features like multi window. I used them twice because they really are cool, but never again.
3) I liked the spen a lot. But after switching to Evernote I simply stopped using it.
4) Samsung & updates. *shakehead* when Samsung releases 5.0 for Note 4, Google releases 5.1. Let's not talk about when update will come to Note 3 which is one year old. Yes - I know. There is a beta from India you can flash but if you NEED your phone, will you flash a beta? It is simply horrible, that a one year old device is not treated the same in regards of updates as the current flagship. Everybody who pays 700€ for his Note 4 today has to keep in mind, that his phone will be treated as "old" in just one year. And it is even worse with the updates for tablets.
the hardware Samsung makes is the best on the market, but I want to keep my phone longer then one year.
I have my Nexus 6 now and am quite happy with it.
Greetings,
Elmar
I bought the Note 4 at T-Mobile the day it came out and I returned it after 2 weeks.
At first, it was great. Loved all the S Pen features. But then, I started noticing lag and stuttering thanks to TouchWiz. I rooted and debloated it, but it still had lag that I wasn't comfortable with. Other people are saying they don't notice it, but I returned it and bought the N6 when it came out. And I haven't looked back.
I've had 2 of every note for my wife and I on at. If you absolutely need to flash and tinker go with the n6 its a great device. Otherwise I would stick with the note if you don't mind stock touchwiz. There is almost no Dev support on the 3 due to locked bootloaders and I don't think the 4 will be any better. All you can flash on the 3 is variants of stock and only with safe strap installed. Hashcode who developed safestrap no longer supports it so for the 4 there would need to be a new Dev working on things if that method will even work.
Tldr if you need to flash and mod go n6 if not go note 4. You have even less of a chance at Dev support on the edge. But they are all great devices!!
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The Note 3 is what I have had experience with as I have owned it since it came out last year. I haven't gotten the chance to play with the Note 4 but what I can say is that the Note series never disappoints.
As far as the carrier goes I really wouldn't recommend going with AT&T or Verizon because if you are looking to root your phone and flash roms it will be a hassle to do because of the locked bootloader. I recommend you go on the T-Mobile network instead.
I say the Nexus 6 and Note 4 are great devices they both have the same snapdragon 805 chip among other things so the difference would be whether you want touchwiz or not.
DON'T FORGET if you can afford it, T-Mobile unlocked devices will work on att so there is that option. Also Verizon offer developer versions of the notes that aren't locked but are full price up front.
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I had the note 3 and 4 on vzw, got the note 4 on release day and had it till I got my n6 3 weeks ago. I loved my note devices but I noticed some lag on them over time not bad by any means but more like hiccups. Always put on Nova launcher bc I hated touchwiz. Screen was brighter on note 4 but I don't mind the n6 screen. Camera at night isn't as good but in daylight the n6 focuses faster than the note 4. For what I like the n6 is the phone for me.
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I own a T Mobile Note 4 and using on AT&T network. It works great with no issues.
I ordered a Nexus 6 with Friday delivery so can't fairly compare yet.
A few Note 4 things.
1. FireKat custom rom has made all the difference. It is stock TW tweaked to perfection. No lag and battery last 5 to 6 hours of SOT.
2. Screen on Note 4 is incredible.
3. We did get CM12 on Note 4.
I had a Note 3 until may of this year when I got my G3 which I still have. The Nexus is leaps and bounds past the Note.
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I haven't owned a Note, but I've played with a few. Most recently, I handled a Note Edge for a bit over the weekend. It is definitely a nice device. Did it have a bunch of features that made it a clear winner over the Nexus? No. The edge display, although a nice touch, felt rather gimmicky and overall not very useful. I also had problems with Touchwiz not responding properly to the stylus input. Maybe someone broke the stylus, but from what I've heard and seen about Touchwiz, my first impression was that it was bugging out. The rear-facing mono speaker sucks in comparison. Also I didn't notice anything special about the display.
In fact, I love the warmer color temperature of the Nexus 6. I'm surrounded by overly-cool LCD displays and fluorescent lighting in my office. The warmer colors of the Nexus 6 were a welcomed sight. Let's not forget that natural colors are actually warmer than your standard LCD display, and it's my opinion that the Nexus 6's display produces more true-to-life color than any of my LCDs, and the overly blue tint to Samsung devices.
There's no doubt that some may find the extra features of the Spen and Touchwiz interface a "better" experience, and some go ape**** over the changeable battery and SD slot, but are those few features worth the higher premium of a Samsung? No, not in my opinion.
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The brilliance of the colors on the Galaxy phones is actually my preference. I am a hobby/amateur photographer, so I always have tons of my favorite pictures on my phone. Being you can actually control the tones/contrast settings.......that is all user interface, your preference. I've never noticed any blue tinting to any of my last several Samsung devices, interesting to hear that from another perspective. Thanks for posting up your experience, these are the kinds of posts I am looking for. :good:
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I switched from Note 3 to Nexus 6. Enjoyed the Note 3 a lot, but there where some things I disliked a lot.
1) these capacitive buttons are horrible. When using mhl adapter with TV you have no buttons on TV. They take a lot of space. Display buttons extend the display when watching videos or looking at pictures.
2) touchwiz. great - these features like multi window. I used them twice because they really are cool, but never again.
3) I liked the spen a lot. But after switching to Evernote I simply stopped using it.
4) Samsung & updates. *shakehead* when Samsung releases 5.0 for Note 4, Google releases 5.1. Let's not talk about when update will come to Note 3 which is one year old. Yes - I know. There is a beta from India you can flash but if you NEED your phone, will you flash a beta? It is simply horrible, that a one year old device is not treated the same in regards of updates as the current flagship. Everybody who pays 700€ for his Note 4 today has to keep in mind, that his phone will be treated as "old" in just one year. And it is even worse with the updates for tablets.
the hardware Samsung makes is the best on the market, but I want to keep my phone longer then one year.
I have my Nexus 6 now and am quite happy with it.
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Outstanding, this is a direct comparison for me.....since I'd be making the same change. And actually your 4 points directly relate to myself and my own preferences/experiences too. Thank you. :good:
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I bought the Note 4 at T-Mobile the day it came out and I returned it after 2 weeks.
At first, it was great. Loved all the S Pen features. But then, I started noticing lag and stuttering thanks to TouchWiz. I rooted and debloated it, but it still had lag that I wasn't comfortable with. Other people are saying they don't notice it, but I returned it and bought the N6 when it came out. And I haven't looked back.
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I've had a few hangups here and there, and started out swearing I'd remain stock/OTA only (like a lot of us on here do). After about 3-4 months, and the lack of updates (thanks Verizon), I rooted. Of course limited due to being locked down, but the experience even without AOSP based ROM's was much better than stock. And I've always used APEX Launcher to avoid TouchJizz. Glad to see the N6 answered your concerns though, definitely adds to the +++ side for me.
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I've had 2 of every note for my wife and I on at. If you absolutely need to flash and tinker go with the n6 its a great device. Otherwise I would stick with the note if you don't mind stock touchwiz. There is almost no Dev support on the 3 due to locked bootloaders and I don't think the 4 will be any better. All you can flash on the 3 is variants of stock and only with safe strap installed. Hashcode who developed safestrap no longer supports it so for the 4 there would need to be a new Dev working on things if that method will even work.
Tldr if you need to flash and mod go n6 if not go note 4. You have even less of a chance at Dev support on the edge. But they are all great devices!!
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I like exploring different ROM's for sure. I really can't understand why carriers lock their devices down and offer little or no different customizations. It'd be a different story if they would see what changes the dev's make (that we want) and give OTA options of the same. Even as simple as a toggle for flashlight.......
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The Note 3 is what I have had experience with as I have owned it since it came out last year. I haven't gotten the chance to play with the Note 4 but what I can say is that the Note series never disappoints.
As far as the carrier goes I really wouldn't recommend going with AT&T or Verizon because if you are looking to root your phone and flash roms it will be a hassle to do because of the locked bootloader. I recommend you go on the T-Mobile network instead.
I say the Nexus 6 and Note 4 are great devices they both have the same snapdragon 805 chip among other things so the difference would be whether you want touchwiz or not.
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I would be all over T-Mobile if they had service where I work. But T-Mobile has no data where I live OR work......so unfortunately it is not an option for me. I am limited to Verizon towers and AT&T towers only.
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DON'T FORGET if you can afford it, T-Mobile unlocked devices will work on att so there is that option. Also Verizon offer developer versions of the notes that aren't locked but are full price up front.
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If my own ignorance to this option of T-mob device compatibility on AT&T networks, I would have purchased my last device from them. Verizon has stuck it to me hard with my Note 3 and their customer service, and being I paid outright for this Note 3......its going to be hard for me to justify dropping that cheese on another device outright. Definitely will keep that in mind though, maybe even if I decide to shop Swappa. :good:
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I had the note 3 and 4 on vzw, got the note 4 on release day and had it till I got my n6 3 weeks ago. I loved my note devices but I noticed some lag on them over time not bad by any means but more like hiccups. Always put on Nova launcher bc I hated touchwiz. Screen was brighter on note 4 but I don't mind the n6 screen. Camera at night isn't as good but in daylight the n6 focuses faster than the note 4. For what I like the n6 is the phone for me.
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I own a T Mobile Note 4 and using on AT&T network. It works great with no issues.
I ordered a Nexus 6 with Friday delivery so can't fairly compare yet.
A few Note 4 things.
1. FireKat custom rom has made all the difference. It is stock TW tweaked to perfection. No lag and battery last 5 to 6 hours of SOT.
2. Screen on Note 4 is incredible.
3. We did get CM12 on Note 4.
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I should have bought the dev edition Note 3, but then again there is hardly any support on the Verizon end........so I'm actually glad I didn't. Still something to think about if I do shop Swappa.
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I had a Note 3 until may of this year when I got my G3 which I still have. The Nexus is leaps and bounds past the Note.
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Can you be specific as to what is so dramatic in the differences? If you have time, and don't mind? I'd love to hear what your experience has been. :good:
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Can you be specific as to what is so dramatic in the differences? If you have time, and don't mind? I'd love to hear what your experience has been. :good:
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The Note 3 was a good phone when I didn't know any better about Android when I bought it. The phone seemed fast compared to my S3 but it WS extremely limited in terms of modding which is what I hated. TW was always laggy for me (more noticeable when I used my Nexus 7 then used my Note 3). After a while it for extremely annoying to me that my Nexus 7 with its 1.7ghz process and 2gn or ram was faster than my 2.3ghz 3gb of ram Note 3. I was rooted running Nova launcher on it until I accidentally updated to kitkat. I lost root in the update and I decided that I would upgrade he phone when something better came along because the TW nonsense was not for me. I liked the dual window and the S pen was cool at first but then it became a gimmick. The physical home button started to click weird after 7 months and it was not ideal to use and felt primitive compared to the onscreen buttons of my Nexus 7 (2013)
I had mentioned modding earlier which is important to me especially with TW because there was a good amount of lag comparatively speaking. Others may have found the Note to EB fast, but have then use a Nexus or AOSP device and then use the Samsung. Its sad because it was nice despite its shortcomings. The camera focus was horrible in my Note, but when it did focus after much frustration it would take nice pictures. Now let's talk ergonomics, the Note is extremely boxy for a 5.7in phone. I like big phablets however the Note 3 was terrible to hold even with a minimal case. Then there was the camera which protrudes a good amount just like the S5, and Note 4 making a slim case a bad idea if you want to protect the camera lens.
My wife has the S5 and whenever I use it it's awful just like I recall my Note was. My wife used to love Samsung too, but she now likes the way Nexus devices are or any phones with on screen buttons and minimal bloat. (She's not s technology snob at all either) her phone lags and stutters even with the bloat disabled as much as possible. Back on topic with the Note 3 now, I decided that the physical buttons, non ergonomic design, bad camera focus, laggy software, slow updates, bloat galore and general lack of easy development/mods was too much. I then bought a G3 at the end of May last year and instantly loved it. LG's UI was nowhere near as heavy as Samsung's and the G3 became my favorite non Nexus devices. In fact I still use my G3 even thought I love my Nexus. I wasn't going to wait for the Nexus 6 or whatever I thought it would be called to come out because I was done with the Notes shortcomings. The best decision I ever made was to get rid of my Samsung phone. I like the Nexus and G3 and will get the G4 and Nexus phone next year unless LG screws up their nice design.
In the end it was more than one thing for me and I hopes this helps you. I don't hate Samsung, I just don't like their phones the way that I used to. I still have an awesome Samsung TV and LG TV in my house and a Samsung Ativ Book 9 Plus (i7 mode) but I won't but another Samsung phone the way they are now.
I had the Note 3 for several month and before that a Note 2 for a good while - both on Verizon. Having grown tired of Verizon locking down their devices and Samsung pressing on with Knox, I decided to move on from both ... grabbed a Nexus 6 with T-Mobile back in the beginning of December. I admit I wasn't sure if I could deviate from the Note as I grew accustom to the Note series and all the great things it has to offer - screen, camera, having the SPen, Multi Window, Pen Window, etc. But, as I started to think about it, I realized I almost never used the SPen and Multi Window/Pen Window were very rarely used as well. After almost 2 full weeks with the Nexus 6 I can say without a shadow of a doubt I do not miss my Note 3 AT ALL! About the only thing I miss is the battery life - the Nexus 6, in my use/experience, has not even come close to what I achieved with the Note 3! (I'm not really worried about this as I'm sure the kinks will be worked out by Google/Moto to get better results).
Comparison of the (in my opinion) major factors:
- Screen: Turning off Adaptive Brightness on the Nexus 6 makes a HUGE difference (and is a must IMO) and , in my most humble opinion, puts it on par with the Note 3 display. However, the Note 3 still wins this contest ... The N6 screen gets plenty bright and visibility outdoors hasn't been an issue, but overall I think the N3 has a slight edge. Also, the feel of the screen is different on the N6. The N6 glass seems "stickier" (for a lack of a better word) ... My fingers slid across the glass easier on the N3 and it's definitely better at managing finger prints!
- UI: Hands down goes to the N6!! Absolutely no comparison! While I'm not a TouchWiz hater (I actually think it compliments the Note series well) I was never a huge fan. Yes, it has some useful features, but a vast majority I found to be gimmicky and never used them. All they did was clutter the settings menu and app draw. And there is no denying TW lags ... now it was never significant in my experience, but definitely noticeable! Now, 5.0 on the Nexus 6 absolutely beautiful and straight out flies! Multitasking it so fluid that it makes up for Multi Window - switch between apps using the recent key (or whatever they're calling it in 5.0) is smooth with quick transitions. Google added nice features (ambient display, battery saver, priority notifications - to name a few) that are, well useful! Granted other OEMs have used similar features them in the past, but they're baked in very nice in 5.0 ... not intrusive and easy to ignore).
- Battery: As I stated above, I had better results from my Note 3. The N6 gets me through the day, but if I was a heavy user I'd find myself needing to charge mid day for sure
- Sound: Nexus 6 is better in every category! Dual front facing speakers!! Nuff said LOL! Headphone jack output is better and louder in-call volume.
Feel-in-hand/Build: While slightly taller,wider and heavier the Nexus 6, after a few days of use, feels better in hand. I admit, the additional width took some getting used to (the height wasn't an issue for me), even though it's only slight difference in width, it's definitely a difference you'll notice. But like any new device, it becomes a none-issue after a few days. The curved back on the N6 makes the feel-in-hand great, but certainly makes things annoying if you're trying to use the device while it's laying flat on a hard surface. Although the same could be said for the Note 3 and it's protruding rear camera (never did understand that design!)
The build on the Nexus 6 is stellar!! Just a solid piece of machinery LOL There's no give to this thing at all! The N3 always felts kinda cheap to me ... it'd creek a little bit when holding it in a certain spot, the plastic didn't feel premium and it developed hair-line cracks in the plastic outer band around the SPen although it was never dropped/abused.
Camera: (DISCLAIMER: I AM IN NO WAY A PHOTOGRAPHER ... I ENJOY TAKING PICTURES, BUT TRUTH BE TOLD I DON'T KNOW MAY ASS FROM LEFT FIELD!!!) I may be the only one to say this, but I was never a fan of the Note 3 camera (I still feel the Note 2 camera was superior). I always had a tough time getting decent shots. However, towards the end of my run with the device I turned off the image stabilization feature (I think that's what it was called) and had MUCH better success! The Nexus 6, IMO, takes really good photos. Like any smartphone camera, it does better in the right conditions. But, with HDR on, I am finding the pics to be more than ample for my needs.
Depending on your wants and needs, I don't think you can go wrong with either device. In the end it all comes down to personal preference. At this point in my life, I wanted the latest, pure, unskinned Android OS, fast updates and a root/hack friendly environment (with great developer support). If those aren't appealing to you, than the Note 4 is probably the next best choice. I say go play with both a few time at a local store before making a decision ....
I know the title sounds weird lol but I actually would like to know what are the first impressions of comrades that owned Note 4 previously and switched for the new Note 5. Is the difference that great? I personally own the note 4 and I can tell yes, the note 5 feels a lot better in hand and performance wise on my end. Maybe because my Note 4 was the snapchat quadcore variant instead of the exynos? I am not sure but I definitely prefer the note 5. It makes me happy by just looking at how vibrant and crisp the display is.
Note 5 performance blows the 4 away. Night and day. And battery life is much better as well.
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Note 5 performance blows the 4 away. Night and day. And battery life is much better as well.
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Fully agree
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I agree as well..also it feels much better in hand. I have zero regrets
If you can live without the memory expansion and removable battery, the Note5 is MUCH better than the Note 4 in every other aspect.
The build quality is better for sure. The battery life doesn't "blow away" by any means, so don't think it will for a second. The performance is better but nothing to make you think foolish for still owning a Note 4.
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The build quality is better for sure. The battery life doesn't "blow away" by any means, so don't think it will for a second. The performance is better but nothing to make you think foolish for still owning a Note 4.
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The battery life is more than great... I get like 6 hours of screen on over a 20 hour day. That's excellent, and certainly at least 30% better than my Note 4 was. And the performance is day and night difference. The Note 4 lagged everywhere. The Note5, not at all so far.
Thank you all for the feedback. Im putting my hand on the note 5 today as I just received the black sapphire 32 gb phone. Will provide my experience after a day of my typical usage. It looks really promising before i even start using it.
So I have been testing the note 5 for a full day yesterday and it does really feels much smoother and fun to use than the note 4. The display makes you happy by just looking at it. It outperforms note 4 in playing heavy graphic demanding games and it is really fun using social media with. I like this device too much that I am not using my iphone 6 plus for the whole day, even for call quality I preferred the note 5. The design feels so premium in hand as well. I like the device.
It's simply better in every respect than the 4. My wife still has the 4 and it looks so dated to me. I used the move as an opportunity to go 'cloud' on everything and it hasn't impacted me one bit. In fact, it's more secure as an SD can be removed from a stolen device whereas a loss device can be remotely reset or can't be logged into. Battery has been fine although I tend to nervously charge at every opportunity! It's faster, snapier, smoother, more responsive, better screen, lighter, thinner and easier to hold, and the ability to unlock we just by touching the home button is the biggest benefit ever (as my work forces lock every time the device times out). It's by far the best device I have ever owned. And it looks fantastic!
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Not being facetious, but what was your (previous posters) setup on the N4? Rooted, custom ROM, Xposed, etc?
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Note 5 performance blows the 4 away. Night and day. And battery life is much better as well.
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I should have quoted you guys earlier when I asked the question above, but I'll ask it again... What was your N4 setup? Were you rooted, running a custom ROM, using Xposed, etc? And are you rooted on your Note 5? If not, do you plan to be?
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Fully agree
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NiquiSE said:
I agree as well..also it feels much better in hand. I have zero regrets
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KarimSalloum said:
If you can live without the memory expansion and removable battery, the Note5 is MUCH better than the Note 4 in every other aspect.
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ekerbuddyeker said:
It's simply better in every respect than the 4. My wife still has the 4 and it looks so dated to me. I used the move as an opportunity to go 'cloud' on everything and it hasn't impacted me one bit. In fact, it's more secure as an SD can be removed from a stolen device whereas a loss device can be remotely reset or can't be logged into. Battery has been fine although I tend to nervously charge at every opportunity! It's faster, snapier, smoother, more responsive, better screen, lighter, thinner and easier to hold, and the ability to unlock we just by touching the home button is the biggest benefit ever (as my work forces lock every time the device times out). It's by far the best device I have ever owned. And it looks fantastic!
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Commandermadi said:
So I have been testing the note 5 for a full day yesterday and it does really feels much smoother and fun to use than the note 4. The display makes you happy by just looking at it. It outperforms note 4 in playing heavy graphic demanding games and it is really fun using social media with. I like this device too much that I am not using my iphone 6 plus for the whole day, even for call quality I preferred the note 5. The design feels so premium in hand as well. I like the device.
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Thanks for your responses. Just trying to put your comments in perspective.
ATT stock rom, unrooted. Same on both devices.
All I have to say is that it took a couple of OTAs for the note 4 to have the bugs and smalls problems ironed out. The Note 5 was amazing out of the box. I am very happy with my note 5, although my note 4 is my second favorite phone
second consecutive day using the Note 5 and it is really much better than my Quad-Core Snapdragon Note 4.
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All I have to say is that it took a couple of OTAs for the note 4 to have the bugs and smalls problems ironed out. The Note 5 was amazing out of the box. I am very happy with my note 5, although my note 4 is my second favorite phone
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Speak for yourself. The AT&T Note 4 had hit or miss GPS that was made better and worse but never good with multiple updates. One of the updates caused my battery life to drop by about 15% and it was never awe inspiring to begin with. The W8 versions are practically carrier unmolested which is why your experience is probably different than mine. I loved my Note 4; there was nothing out there that I thought was better. But, at least the way I use it, the Note 5 is in a different league.
Mine was stock at&t. I forgot about that awful gps. I even got a replacement from att because of it.
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Speak for yourself. The AT&T Note 4 had hit or miss GPS that was made better and worse but never good with multiple updates. One of the updates caused my battery life to drop by about 15% and it was never awe inspiring to begin with. The W8 versions are practically carrier unmolested which is why your experience is probably different than mine. I loved my Note 4; there was nothing out there that I thought was better. But, at least the way I use it, the Note 5 is in a different league.
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So we're still talking about stock unrooted?
I just say this because I'm considering my next device, and I know some people with N5's that are happy with their purchase, and I know some who aren't. It seems to boil down to this: Comparing a stock N5 to a stock N4 is obviously no contest, as Samsung doesn't optimise their devices to their full potential... (Gotta love planned obsolescence) But as a rooted N4 user running a custom ROM that transforms my entire user experience, I wonder if the performance chasm that is being described is truly that vast...
Edit: And I have held the N5 in hand... I'm certainly not bashing it - it's a beautiful device. But I feel Samsung left so much on the table, and didn't really improve a device that was poised to truly dominate the market.
Well I was a nay-sayer to the Note 5 (I was going to avoid it at ALL costs). That was until my Note 4 speaker blew (factory warranty replacement) but since they didn't have any Note 4's in Stock where I went they told me that I was getting a Note 5 for free. I was hesitant and was going to deal with the blown speaker until they could get me a Note 4. However, the person at the store convinced me to at least take the Note 5 in the meantime and at least give it the 14 day trial. So, I did... I must admit I love it, I don't miss the SD card slot, though I am still looking into a secure cloud service. I have noticed the reception I get from the tower (Sprint service) is way stronger than the Note 4 I had in the same locations, and side by side comparisons with my wife's note 4 holds true to that statement as well. I have never been one to switch out batteries, so that was never an issue anyways.
TL;DR: Note 5 > Note 4 IMHO
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So we're still talking about stock unrooted?
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Yep. I connect to secure networks that don't allow rooted devices on. I also didn't want to obliterate Samsung Pay and other apps that can't be root cloaked that read device status.
But as a rooted N4 user running a custom ROM that transforms my entire user experience, I wonder if the performance chasm that is being described is truly that vast...
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Assuming you're able to mimic the same custom environment on the Note 5 it'll still blow your Note 4 out of the water. Software can't take the place of a more modern and powerful SoC, uber fast memory and storage, and more streamlined and lighter stock apps and UI (assuming you're using any).
And I have held the N5 in hand... I'm certainly not bashing it - it's a beautiful device. But I feel Samsung left so much on the table, and didn't really improve a device that was poised to truly dominate the market.
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What's really left design wise? The display sets the shape of the device so the only thing to play with is bezel size and depth. To support wireless signals and control weight material choices are metal, glass, and plastic. So no matter who makes a phone it's going to be a slab of glass on the front and made out of metal, glass, and/or plastic. HTC's dual front speakers didn't sell phones. LG's bizarre control placement and KnockOn didn't sell phones. Sony's waterproofing didn't sell phones. Apple's 8MP camera, iterative designs, lack of expandable storage, and fixed battery didn't prevent phones from being sold. Welcome to the "mature" smartphone market.
Good Afternoon,
I'm new to the forum and looking for some advice/knowledge. I currently have an iPhone 8 Plus and am looking at getting a Note 9. I've always been a big fan of the note phones but never owned one and feel that now is a good time to get one.
I've read and watched a ton of reviews on the Note 9 but have some questions about moving over to Android from IOS. Are most of the apps now more optimized to phones like the Note 9 or do they still look a bit dated? I mainly use apps like Facebook, Twitter, Sky Sports, you tube, Instagram and others. Just wanted to see what the look of these apps is like on the Note 9.
Apologies if there are already posts on questions like this.
Thanks for your help.
Simon
IMO most apps on Android look/feel better to me and with better functionality than they do on iOS; it's like they're dumbed down
The only apps I don't use that you've mentioned are FB and Sky; the rest I do and they're very good, very sharp
Personally if you're tied into all Apple (says me who has iMac, MBC, iPad Pro and ATV4s throughout the house); it might be a shock to the system. I personally don't like iPhones etc
However a move to a Note 9 would make you realise how much better flagship Android phones are compared to Apple IMO; the screen being the biggest standout but also the ease that you can completely mould the Note 9 into what you need; how customisable they are and how you can set it up to how you want, both Launchers and home screen, whereas on iPhones, you're locked down to how they want you to have it, unless you jailbreak and even then, it's not as customisable
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IMO most apps on Android look/feel better to me and with better functionality than they do on iOS; it's like they're dumbed down
The only apps I don't use that you've mentioned are FB and Sky; the rest I do and they're very good, very sharp
Personally if you're tied into all Apple (says me who has iMac, MBC, iPad Pro and ATV4s throughout the house); it might be a shock to the system. I personally don't like iPhones etc
However a move to a Note 9 would make you realise how much better flagship Android phones are compared to Apple IMO; the screen being the biggest standout but also the ease that you can completely mould the Note 9 into what you need; how customisable they are and how you can set it up to how you want, both Launchers and home screen, whereas on iPhones, you're locked down to how they want you to have it, unless you jailbreak and even then, it's not as customisable
Welcome to Android, the apps you mentioned will be fine on the Note 9. I handle the phones for my company and we have mainly Android for the field but a few of the guys inside have IOS and the apps look very similar on both operating systems.
Thanks for your responses.
I only have an Apple phone and an iPad so not fully tied in too much. I've dipped into Android back with the Samsung Galaxy S6 and some of the apps didn't seem as sharp as IOS which is probably why i've been reluctant to switch again.
Agree with your points about the Note 9. I went into my local O2 shop today and tried it out the screen is really impressive and is such a step up from my current phone.
STJ2803 said:
Good Afternoon,
I'm new to the forum and looking for some advice/knowledge. I currently have an iPhone 8 Plus and am looking at getting a Note 9. I've always been a big fan of the note phones but never owned one and feel that now is a good time to get one.
I've read and watched a ton of reviews on the Note 9 but have some questions about moving over to Android from IOS. Are most of the apps now more optimized to phones like the Note 9 or do they still look a bit dated? I mainly use apps like Facebook, Twitter, Sky Sports, you tube, Instagram and others. Just wanted to see what the look of these apps is like on the Note 9.
Apologies if there are already posts on questions like this.
Thanks for your help.
Simon
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All main apps update to fit Infinity display but in general iOS apps has better experiences than Android, smoothness, design and quality. Maybe the differences are not much with some apps
Hello. I switched from the Iphone 8 Plus to Note 9. Here are my thoughts.
1) Apple has no features. It is just a calculator against Note 9
2) Although in benchmark scores Apple's CPU is faster, i noticed no difference.
3) Apps are greatly optimized. Not even a single crush (Been 5 days since i have been using Note 9)
dieselhazza said:
Don't expect Android apps to ever be as polished as Apple apps as that won't happen. Apple is a much better refined eco system. Android apps have come a long way so thats a good thing. Note 9 is a nice phone but the only thing going for it is the battery size. However samsung has left all the bells and whistles for the S10 and Note 10. So I will give the 9 a skip as I am happy with my flagship
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The only thing going for it is battery size???
Hahaha, oh okay. Got it. ??
I think this phone is a massive step up for the OP, given they have an iPhone 8+. It's not even close, actually. WAY more than just a large battery. It's a powerhouse workhorse.
dieselhazza said:
The iPhone has more raw power and utilizes it better. App performance and gaming performance is much better on the 8+ to start with. If you don't need a S Pen then no need to jump onto the Note 9.
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Dang another one?! ?
Missy Elliott would say:
"Man, you guys really need to research that minute man chip!" ?
Could you please explain to me what "raw power" you speak of and where it's coming from? Also, what's a "flagship?"
If you don't mind, please also throw the word "premium" in there as well.
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dieselhazza said:
The iPhone has more raw power and utilizes it better. App performance and gaming performance is much better on the 8+ to start with. If you don't need a S Pen then no need to jump onto the Note 9.
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Strong disagree. There are so many other things the Note9 smokes the iPhone 8+ in (or any iPhone) that it's dizzying.
My brother has an iPhone 8+. My Note8 already feels much more powerful and useful in side-by-side comparisons. So the Note9 is going to widen that gap.
PsiPhiDan said:
Strong disagree. There are so many other things the Note9 smokes the iPhone 8+ in (or any iPhone) that it's dizzying.
My brother has an iPhone 8+. My Note8 already feels much more powerful and useful in side-by-side comparisons. So the Note9 is going to widen that gap.
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iPhone is just a glorified cellphone. Note line is just a glorified smartphone. ?
STJ2803 said:
Good Afternoon,
I'm new to the forum and looking for some advice/knowledge. I currently have an iPhone 8 Plus and am looking at getting a Note 9. I've always been a big fan of the note phones but never owned one and feel that now is a good time to get one.
I've read and watched a ton of reviews on the Note 9 but have some questions about moving over to Android from IOS. Are most of the apps now more optimized to phones like the Note 9 or do they still look a bit dated? I mainly use apps like Facebook, Twitter, Sky Sports, you tube, Instagram and others. Just wanted to see what the look of these apps is like on the Note 9.
Apologies if there are already posts on questions like this.
Thanks for your help.
Simon
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Welcome to the forum.
I own the iPhone 8+ had the note 8 and now own the Note 9 as well as the iPhone 8+.
Both mobiles are quality products the main difference being the OS.
If a comparison was to be made, and its very unwise to do so, I would compare the Galaxy S9+ with the iPhone 8+.
The Note has an advantage over ALL present production smart phones in that it posses the S-pen. Regardless of OS the Note series is even unique among Android smart phones.
It is near impossible to make comparisons between Apple and other brands. Apple make a superb package and though I detest their business model in this country the mobile itself is very accomplished.
The Note 9, well now.....its a pocket PC with a pen as a mouse. Many consumers purchase the Note series and do NOT use the pen. I have never understood that and never will. If one is not going to use the S-pen buy the S9+.
I repeat, trying to compare Apple products with Android is very much a non starter. Add to that mix the Note 9 is unique even among Android mobiles and its impossible to draw a meaningful, valued conclusion.
I need the S-pen so the Note 9 is my daily driver. I can assure you the iPhone 8+ is also a superb smart phone. Not my choice for daily use but that is me.
Try not to compare, you will find yourself trying to pee in the corner of a barrel!
Ryland
Im a android guy but took a break now using ios for around month. My last phones were gs8+, pixel 2 xl, note 8, gs9 plus, oneplus 6. No ios fanboy here just honest opinion.
I hated the iphone x which iuser for a month. Hates the notch, cant hide it like oneplus. The phone never got bigger since is even smaller than a regular gs9. Heats up when heavy task to the point that for safety reason screen brighness would dim to around 50% until it cools up. I decided to give the 8+ a chance since i really wanted to give ios a chance.
Iphone 8+ for me... old design, ugly, big bezel BUT IT WORKS. Ios itself is smoother than android. Even more so now in beta 12. Animations are fluid with less to non skip frame. Apps are well optimize and mobile site seems to be build more around ios than android.
I didnt like the way android is going with android pie and how they are trying to copy what ios is doing. Android use to be innovation now they are trying to be ios and samsung. i didnt like what i saw with all the new pixel 3 xl leaks and its big notch. Dont like all phone skin and fragmented ui with slow updates.
Note 9 will probably get pie AFTER galaxy S10, (march/april 2019) is the way samsung has always been. Main reason why im now with ios for a while, gets update on day one.
dieselhazza said:
My wife and cousin both own an iPhone X. That phone runs so much smoother than the Note 8 I used to have. Also videos from tech reviews suggest that the iPhone X has more power than the Note 9. Considering the chip in the iPhone X is a better processor than the one in the Note 9.this comes as no surprise. Ohh and IOS Eco system is better optimized so with the new upcoming A12 chip it will make the gap much wider. So please guys don't get cut as it doesn't change the facts
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Smoothness may be slightly better, but there's just too many limitations on iOS. No thanks. I don't want a phone that ties my hands behind my back.
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Smoothness may be slightly better, but there's just too many limitations on iOS. No thanks. I don't want a phone that ties my hands behind my back.
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No one is forcing or trying to convince you to use an iPhone. I also prefer Android and currently using the Pixel 2 XL.
However, to be honest the iPhone is always going to be she's in the race simply because every is made in house. So it is highly optimized so runs much he than Android. All the Apps are better on IOS so cannot beat that.
For instance Fortnite lags on the Note 9 but runs smoothly on iPhone 8, 8+ and iPhone X.
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No one is forcing or trying to convince you to use an iPhone. I also prefer Android and currently using the Pixel 2 XL.
However, to be honest the iPhone is always going to be she's in the race simply because every is made in house. So it is highly optimized so runs much he than Android. All the Apps are better on IOS so cannot beat that.
For instance Fortnite lags on the Note 9 but runs smoothly on iPhone 8, 8+ and iPhone X.
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That's fine if you're that picky, but for most normal people, ios apps don't run "much better". Maybe very, very slightly. I've had almost zero lag in a full year with my Note8. Maybe a frame drop one time a month? I'll trade that for all the additional functionality.
No launcher like Nova Prime? No SwiftKey keyboard? No sd card? No stylus? No widgets where I want them? No fast charging? No ability to download a song/video and play it immediately? No way to use anything but iTunes?
Pass. I'll take my ity bity tiny lower performance that most people wouldn't notice. In reviews I've read, no one had lag in Fortnite by the way, so I'm sure it's not prevalent.
"Also videos from tech reviews suggest that the iPhone X has more power than the Note 9."
Yes, from very uniformed or bias sites like BGR. They use the ONLY benchmark which shows the iPhone X has "more power" than the Note9. Literally every other test you could possibly run (especially AnTuTu, which tests the phone's capabilities as a whole and not ONLY the processor) shows that the Note9 destroys the year old iPhone X, as it should.
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I don't think the Note 9 destroys the iPhone X or 8+.
The A11 chip is superior to what ssmsung has in the Note 9
The A12 will run loops around it no doubt.
Also the new Kirin 980 will destroy the Exynos housed in the Note 9
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Why are you in the note 9 forums just to bash it? Laughable
Ryland Johnson said:
Welcome to the forum.
I own the iPhone 8+ had the note 8 and now own the Note 9 as well as the iPhone 8+.
Both mobiles are quality products the main difference being the OS.
If a comparison was to be made, and its very unwise to do so, I would compare the Galaxy S9+ with the iPhone 8+.
The Note has an advantage over ALL present production smart phones in that it posses the S-pen. Regardless of OS the Note series is even unique among Android smart phones.
It is near impossible to make comparisons between Apple and other brands. Apple make a superb package and though I detest their business model in this country the mobile itself is very accomplished.
The Note 9, well now.....its a pocket PC with a pen as a mouse. Many consumers purchase the Note series and do NOT use the pen. I have never understood that and never will. If one is not going to use the S-pen buy the S9+.
I repeat, trying to compare Apple products with Android is very much a non starter. Add to that mix the Note 9 is unique even among Android mobiles and its impossible to draw a meaningful, valued conclusion.
I need the S-pen so the Note 9 is my daily driver. I can assure you the iPhone 8+ is also a superb smart phone. Not my choice for daily use but that is me.
Try not to compare, you will find yourself trying to pee in the corner of a barrel!
Ryland
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Umm, you can't compare a mobile os to a corporation. It goes right over apple fanboys heads or they get mad when you compare Android to iOS. They want to compare Apple vs Android and that is an apples to oranges comparison of which you just did.
dieselhazza said:
I don't think the Note 9 destroys the iPhone X or 8+.
The A11 chip is superior to what ssmsung has in the Note 9
The A12 will run loops around it no doubt.
Also the new Kirin 980 will destroy the Exynos housed in the Note 9
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Great. That's fine. But benchmark tests from an isolated processor do not jive with real-world usage. Even if you love benchmarks, the Note9 destroys the iPhone X in AnTuTu because it is testing memory, GPU, CPU, etc. There is more to a phone's performance than just the processor.
Once you realize that pretty much every flagship phone has an insanely powerful processor, it comes down to what you can actually DO with the power. That's where the Note9 absolutely CRUSHES the iPhone. There is nothing you can do on an iPhone that I cannot do on my Note9, but there are TONS of things I can do on my Note9 (productive things, at that) that you cannot do on an iPhone.
So, once again, the Note9 wins easily. Better hardware, comparable chip, WAY better productivity features.
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In everyday usage the Iphone X and iPhone 8+ are better than what the Note 9 is. In a couple of months the Note 9 will be lagging and slowed down.
I had the Note 8 so I know whats coming for the Note 9. Even the OP6 destroys the Note 9.
When you take Huawei into consideration it is clear that they will wipe the floor with Sammy. The Mate 20 pro will easily kill the Note 9
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You obviously either don't have a Note8, or you do some crazy things to your phone. I have had a Note8 since launch and it's SMOOTHER than when I first got it with zero lag. Oreo made it better, and it was damn good to begin with.
You're obviously just trolling though so I'm done discussing it with you. Enjoy your iPhoneX. I wouldn't pay $500 for that thing.
I switched from an iPhone 8 Plus and pretty disappointed. The Note 9 is definitely a nice phone, but there are so many little things that irk me about Android. Maybe the Note 9 is too much phone for me? I will be boxing it up and sending it back to Samsung next week unless someone wants an unlocked model for $950 [emoji23]
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