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Hello,
i just got my hands on the Z3 Compact and took it out to test it on a sunny day.
Back home i noticed that the picture quality is really bad in auto mode!
I made a quick comparison picture to my old phone: a Xiaomi Mi2 (not the S Model) with 8m Camera.
The picture shows the text quality of the Xperia Z Ultra Power Pack which is the best example i can do now.
The automode settings are: ISO-800, F/2, 1/50 Sec, no flash
The Mi2 automode settings are: ISO-488, 1/16 Sec (no data on the F), no flash
Directlink:
http://abload.de/img/neuebitmapoksb8.png
And here the same with manual mode and a lower ISO (100 instead of 800 that was used in auto mode):
The complete settings were: ISO-100, F/2, 1/8 Sec, no flash
Directlink:
http://abload.de/img/dsc_0099emqqy.jpg
Heres another example of a picture i took when i was outside (without zoom, i just cut away some parts to make it smaller):
The automode settings here: ISO-50, F/2, 1/320sec, no flash
Directlink:
http://abload.de/img/dsc_0036lujf6.jpg
Any idea why automode causes such very bad picture quality? Any ideas on how to improve it?
Thank you for help!
Why bother so much about the auto mode? You can take such great pictures in manual mode when you play with the settings. In the end auto mode will never be great, because it does what it says: auto mode, it adjusts the settings to what it thinks is best in each situation.
Playing with the manual mode will also give you more knowledge of basic photography.
Sent from my D5803
Auto mode became better over time on the Z1C, I guess they'll keep improving it. Dunno if they made a step back here.
Dsteppa said:
Why bother so much about the auto mode? You can take such great pictures in manual mode when you play with the settings. In the end auto mode will never be great, because it does what it says: auto mode, it adjusts the settings to what it thinks is best in each situation.
Playing with the manual mode will also give you more knowledge of basic photography.
Sent from my D5803
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Auto mode will always be handy.. no one wants to mess with settings most of the times.. its a phone camera and if i want manual controls i would pick a dslr. Thats why iphone wins in camera department. Take it out and snap a pic instantly with great output. Even on my galaxy s5 i take pictures on auto and i havent seen anyone setting things up manually each and every time to take a damn photo
Auto mode uses a technique called oversampling to gather information with the 20MP sensor, then heavily processes the photo to whatever the software (Sony) decided was best (post-processing). The idea is you get the detail of a 20MP sensor, in a auto-corrected and down-sized 8MP resolution photo. Oversampling is also why the Z3 has a small amount of "lossless" zoom. (ever tried "zooming" with other phone cameras? It usually leaves you with a terrible blob of digital noise)
As with any automatic post-processing, there are pros and cons. The truth is, the software doesn't really know what you're taking a picture of, so it tries to give it's best guess on correcting exposure, colour, noise, etc. The result you're seeing in the auto-mode photo is a result of heavy post-processing (Noise Reduction), bad focus, and camera shake.
The reason your "manual" photo is better is because manual mode drops the post-processing. It also looks like you were able to hold the camera steadier for the manual shot.
"Auto" mode is far from perfect, but it will often save you more times than you know. Over time, you'll learn the strengths and weaknesses of "auto mode", and you'll know when you need to switch to Manual for the better shot. Auto mode can also be easily improved upon via software updates.
PS: A little trick I use to minimize camera shake while taking a photo is to set a quick 2 second self timer. This will allow you time to press the shutter button and then stabilize the phone for minimal "camera shake"
I have read the z3 Compact camera is great, great, great...but yeah I have been grossly underwhelmed by the auto mode. The auto mode is THE mode...sure have a manual mode if you want...if you have time. But I use my phone for quick snaps...QUICK being the operative word. I want to pull it out aim and shoot. My iphone5 took very acceptable pictures. The z3 compact has shown me grainy, bland looking shots in auto.
I don't get why auto mode isn't the most important mode for designers. It's a phone...not a camera...so make the auto mode work
Yeah, camera is definitely underwhelming. That being said though, it's better than most. My Moto X took absolutely horrid shots for the most part.
Crewville96 said:
Yeah, camera is definitely underwhelming. That being said though, it's better than most. My Moto X took absolutely horrid shots for the most part.
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Coming from 2 years on the iphone5...I was under the impression that camera technology was pretty well mastered across the board. iphone makes it look easy. There's even an annoying lag between pressing the button and the shot being taken on the Z3...what the hell is up with that?
Eclypz said:
Auto mode uses a technique called oversampling to gather information with the 20MP sensor, then heavily processes the photo to whatever the software (Sony) decided was best (post-processing). The idea is you get the detail of a 20MP sensor, in a auto-corrected and down-sized 8MP resolution photo.
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Well, my z3c is still on the way. I have a question. Will the 8MP pictures I take in Manual mode be oversampled as well?
Because the sensor is still 20MP and if I manually adjust it to take only 8MP pictures what advantage do I have in having a sensor that is 20MP? I never print photos. Only watch it on my phone, laptop or my LED tv which is 1080p and 50" screen. I don't want photos that are too big in file size unless it is benefiting me in some sense other than for the purpose of printing and viewing in very large resolutions. I see that oversampling in auto mode is benefiting from a 20MP sensor but is that the case if I take 8MP pics in manual mode?
coolmalayalee said:
Well, my z3c is still on the way. I have a question. Will the 8MP pictures I take in Manual mode be oversampled as well?
Because the sensor is still 20MP and if I manually adjust it to take only 8MP pictures what advantage do I have in having a sensor that is 20MP? I never print photos. Only watch it on my phone, laptop or my LED tv which is 1080p and 50" screen. I don't want photos that are too big in file size unless it is benefiting me in some sense other than for the purpose of printing and viewing in very large resolutions. I see that oversampling in auto mode is benefiting from a 20MP sensor but is that the case if I take 8MP pics in manual mode?
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By selecting 8MP in manual mode, all you're doing is resizing the photo from 20MP (post processing). The sensor will always capture at its full resolution.
If you know you only want a 8MP photo, there is a small benefit in resizing the photo at the phone:
The first benefit is obviously file size, but before I get into the second reason, I need to explain something first: A picture that has been converted to JPG is considered to be post processed. The compression that the JPG engine performs means your image loses details and thus has been altered. I know I said above that Manual mode means the image isn't processed, but I really only said that for the sake of explaining things easier. The average user does not consider JPG compression as post processing and they probably don't care to know. The truth is, unless Sony allows us to capture images in RAW format, the act of converting all our images to JPG means our images are all being post processed whether we like it or not. The difference between manual and auto mode is really about "how much" post processing occurs. In manual, Sony is most likely just compressing to JPG (and probably lens distortion correction but I won't get into that now) , and not applying corrections like noise reduction.
As for how it may be beneficial to resize at the phone; JPG compression is usually the final step in post processing. So by resizing at the phone, the theory is the image is captured in [email protected] > resized to 8MP while still in RAW format > compressed to JPG.
This means you benefit from the photo being resized before it is "post processed". In theory, this method should leave you with a higher quality 8MP photo versus resizing from a computer. Resizing from a computer means you're applying post processing to an already "post processed" photo.
For the average user, 8MP is more than enough, however, this is not to say all phone cameras should come in 8MP. Keep in mind that there is a big difference between an image captured by a 8MP sensor vs being captured by a 20MP sensor and then resized to 8MP. The 20MP sensor can capture much more detail with proper/sufficient lighting.
@wooki (OP):
Especially the first comparison "Xperia Z Ultra Power Pack", the one you made with the Z3C is nothing but blurred. So what is it you're trying to show/compare? I mean, yes, may the Z3C doesn't come with the best camera on the market, and yes, the "Auto mode" does not always provide the best results. Not really sure you're into photography or not, but what can be expected from a lens not even half the size of a fingernail? Not too much, right?! Get an SLR with decent lenses and a full frame sensor if you need more/better.
However, the attached fotos were one of the first ones I made with the Z3C (in Auto Mode) and think it's quite ok. No processing, just resized them.
@sxtester
I was comparing my Z3C with my old phone (a 2 year old Xiaomi Mi2) which seems to have a very good auto mode. Was just asking if i was the only one who has had a bad automode experience and if someone knows how to improve it.
How do your pictures look like without resizing?
As i'm owning a WQHD Screen all my automode pictures look very bad!
I don't want to set up the manual mode every time i want to take a picture, this phone has a shutter button to make fast pictures and with the setup phase i lose time even if manual mode gives me excellent pictures.
Eclypz said:
Auto mode uses a technique called oversampling to gather information with the 20MP sensor, then heavily processes the photo to whatever the software (Sony) decided was best (post-processing). The idea is you get the detail of a 20MP sensor, in a auto-corrected and down-sized 8MP resolution photo. Oversampling is also why the Z3 has a small amount of "lossless" zoom. (ever tried "zooming" with other phone cameras? It usually leaves you with a terrible blob of digital noise)
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The manual mode uses oversampling as well, if you select a lower resolution. I've compared an auto mode shot with a manual mode shot of the same scene, and both were equal in terms of details and noise. The main difference was that the auto mode shot looks far worse because it tends to use that horrible HDR which just washes out the photo and ruins the contrast to near non-existence. I find that "multi" light metering mode, selectable in manual mode, gives far better results than HDR on this phone.
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Auto:
http://i.imgur.com/er38iZn.jpg
Manual:
http://i.imgur.com/Oqwl3KE.jpg
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Furthermore, the pictures from this phone's camera would look a lot better if Sony used a better algorithm for their oversampling.
Here is a comparison between a 100% crop of an image taken using Sony's oversampling (8mp) (former attachment) and a 100% crop of a photo taken at 20mp, and then downsampled to the 8mp dimensions using Irfanview (latter attachment):
I agree....Sony's software is lacking compared to everybody else. Auto mode seems kind of hit or miss. Their camera sensors are excellent, as I believe the iPhone uses a Sony sensor, but the difference being Apple is able to process better looking images with their software. I also have a iPhone 5s, and I must agree that 7/10 times, I'll get a better looking image from the iPhone. In terms of capturing details, i think Z3C is better (as expected), but all my images from the Z3C are on the "red" side when shooting in auto-mode. In the end, the iPhone comes out with the better looking photo because I'd much rather have better colour re-production over slightly more detail that you wouldn't even notice unless you had a photo to compare against.
I still think the Z3C's camera is on par with the best from Samsung's Galaxy S5 and LG's G3 (Sony sensor). It's way better than my old HTC One M8's "ultrapixel".
On the Android side of things, I think Z3C is still top 3, and Top 5 in the Smartphone world (iPhone and Lumia above it).
wooki said:
@sxtester
How do your pictures look like without resizing?
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@wooki:
Here you go, all unedited made in Auto Mode:
http://imgur.com/uMiM0Sh
http://imgur.com/0mYsf5U
http://imgur.com/vJ32fjT
http://imgur.com/8g7oJD7
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Here is a comparison between a 100% crop of an image taken using Sony's oversampling (8mp) (former attachment) and a 100% crop of a photo taken at 20mp, and then downsampled to the 8mp dimensions using Irfanview (latter attachment):
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Sony's approach looks way better because it doesn't blur that heavily. If I want to blur away all the details, I can still do that myself.
This is a bit off-topic, but I don't really want to start a new thread just to ask such a silly question.
I've been playing with the camera app some more and is there seriously no "rule of thirds grid" in Sony's Camera app? I often like to use the grids to assist in making sure my shot is straight.
Iruwen said:
Sony's approach looks way better because it doesn't blur that heavily. If I want to blur away all the details, I can still do that myself.
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Really? Sony's approach is full of over sharpening artifacts and -auras, doesn't look better at all IMO.
One dumb quetion.
If i use another camera APP, it will improve the photo quality?
point_pt said:
One dumb quetion.
If i use another camera APP, it will improve the photo quality?
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It depends. I choose CFV-5 and PNG image saving (rrather than JPG) and it looks much better then Superior auto, and sometimes better than Sony's Manual mode.
I just used the phone for half a day and thoroughly enjoy it. On first impression, the phone is very light for the size and they give nice accessories considering the price; earphones, screen protector, case. The phone have an RGB notification light.
Interface:
-The interface is not stock Android, it's more like a modified version of MIUI. It's very usable once you install your choice of stock launcher, replace the default keyboard, and disable some of the bloat apps.
-Since it's not stock Android, I find it take a bit of time to get used to finding things in the Settings menu.
-The swipe up hardware toggles (Control center, similar to iPhone toggles) are pretty useful and more well organized than stock Android imo.
-Screen off gestures, you get many different commands (double tap on, camera, flashlight, customize your own, etc) and it work pretty good.
-Feature to display network speed on the notification bar
-"Close all" button in the recent apps menu.
-There is a feature to modify apps permissions called "Permissions of App".
-I can not find the shortcut to "Smart Lock" window anywhere, even though it is supported in the OS, if you pair a bluetooth device it will display the notification to enable it. But there seems to be no way to get to the actual Smart Lock window to enable other smart lock features, or I miss it somewhere.
Performance:
I installed all my programs pretty quick. I don't see any lag issues. All the apps launches fast and run smoothly. I don't intend to play any heavy games on a $100 phone, all the light games I play like Subway Surfer and Horizon Chase have no lags.
Connection:
Cell: The dual sim feature seems to work good. I still have to to test the signal quality, but I have to say the data speed is average. I get about 10 to 12mbps down for T-Mobile LTE speed test.
Bluetooth: I'm happy to report the Bluetooth have good performance, the motion of people lips in videos are in synced with the audio from the bluetooth speaker.
WiFi: Can reach high speed, no problem.
GPS: No problem.
Storage:
There is a strange quirk with the phone which is by default your microSD is acts as the main 'internal storage' of the phone (sdcard0), and the actual internal storage act as external (sdcard1). So it would help if you use a fast microSD. I think this is because I have the microSD inserted the first time I set up the phone. Maybe this problem can be prevented by not inserting the microSD for the first time you boot up the phone. I don't know, but I'll just live with it.
Display:
The screen is very nice for a 5.5" 720p AMOLED display. It's not going to be sharp, but it the pixels are smooth so you don't get so much of that pixelation effect. Pretty much deep black, saturated colors and good viewing angles you expect from AMOLED. It's definitely not the brightest of display though, so you might have some problem under direct sunlight.
Camera: I haven't used it too much, but it's pretty average. Like all lower end camera, it have issue with under/over exposure, also the white balance is really off on auto mode. I like the manual mode that let you control the ISO and shutter speed. It's no where bad in good lighting condition, I'd say it takes good enough details for a budget phone.
Speaker: Very average, don't expect much here.
Charging: I used my Anker quick charger and it seems to charge the device fast and safely.
Ringtones selection:
The only thing I don't like is that if you have music in your phone, when you go to change the default ringtones, it will display every single songs in your phone and you have to scroll through it. The way to remedy this is to use the file manager in the phone and create a file called ".nomedia" in your music folder, so the phone will not recognize songs in it. Once you set your desired ringtone, you can remove that file. Or you can simply use a third party app to do the job.
Aside from some quirks, I honestly have no complaints so far, I would have no problem paying the full $150 for this device. I definitely like it better than the Moto G3, except that Motorola phones tends to have superior signals and call quality compared to most other brands. I definitely will not use this phone without a case though since it's on the light side.
Couple of things I noticed
1. The navigation buttons at the bottom (Home, Back & Option) does not have backlight. Not sure if there is a LED there that can be enabled in settings. I couldn't find any setting for that.
2. The data connection drops from 4G LTE to 'H' (HSPA) when on a call.
One of thing I notice about the Gallery app in this phone is there is an "Encrypt" option. If you press it accidentally it encrypt the file and move it into the "Pictures\.GallerySafe" folder. To access the encrypted photo, you have to "pinch outward" in the app.
No Smart Lock support: I tested and even though the smart lock feature turned on when you paired a bluetooth device, it actually doesn't work.
Here are some photo samples. The main problem are over exposure, white balance detection and some lost of saturation. The quality suffers when you're indoor with less lights.
https://goo.gl/photos/j9BrJ7gcbDCXBQgD6
The LED notification light seem like its set a ways under the glass and has this really bright shining affect versus a little glow other devices have.
I must say, the amoled screen on this is quite impressive for $100 phone..
wifi and data speeds are very similar compared to my oneplus 2 (both running Tmobile)
I noticed that the user cannot remove home screen icons. Like when you press and hold there's no option to remove the icon. Some apps show an option to uninstall. But for some pre installed apps there is no option to remove the icon.
Like Google chrome, opera browser, BLU help, amazon etc....
I don't want to uninstall the app, just remove from home screen.
Yea I noticed the LED light being very bright. I could read a book under that lighting.
hamilLewiston said:
I noticed that the user cannot remove home screen icons. Like when you press and hold there's no option to remove the icon. Some apps show an option to uninstall. But for some pre installed apps there is no option to remove the icon.
Like Google chrome, opera browser, BLU help, amazon etc....
I don't want to uninstall the app, just remove from home screen.
Yea I noticed the LED light being very bright. I could read a book under that lighting.
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just use another launcher. google now, nova
eksasol said:
One of thing I notice about the Gallery app in this phone is there is an "Encrypt" option. If you press it accidentally it encrypt the file and move it into the "Pictures\.GallerySafe" folder. To access the encrypted photo, you have to "pinch outward" in the app.
No Smart Lock support: I tested and even though the smart lock feature turned on when you paired a bluetooth device, it actually doesn't work.
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The smart lock is really baffling. It prompts to turn on smart lock but never works after that.
tlxxxsracer said:
just use another launcher. google now, nova
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thanks, that's what i finally did
so i found that there is an option on the desktop settings to 'hide' apps that you don't want to see on the desktop. it will hide the apps, with a password / pin. i'll post a guide later.
I've been using the Honor 5X a bit today so here is a comparison.
Things I prefer on the Vivo XL:
-This is a faster device. Everything about the Blu is more responsive and I don't think it's down to just the 720p display. It seems that this Mediatek CPU is actually pretty decent, games are smoother on it as well. In comparison, Honor 5X is slightly sluggy, not just in the interface, but in apps as well. This is probably due to the EMUI OS on the Honor 5X.
-Blu's UI is actually easier to understand and getting used to, especially if you're not accustomed to MIUI style interface on the Honor 5X.
-I'm not sure if it's due to the screen protector preinstalled on the Honor 5X, but the Blu touchscreen is a bit more sensitive and responsive to touch. Though it's not bad on the Honor 5X.
-The slide up "Control Panel" on the Blu is more useful with lots of options. Hate to admit it, but I prefer this slide up behavior more than Android's default because it's faster being close to your thumb. The notification toggles for the Honor 5X is missing a few options, but not a big deal.
-Blu is thinner and more light weight.
-The USB Type C connector is god sent.
-Removable battery.
Prefer on the 5X:
-Sharper screen that is very bright, its actually brighter than some highend flagship devices. The viewing angle isn't great however, but that is non-problem because it's a phone, not a TV.
-The camera is (only) slightly better. It have a bit more details and much better handle at white balance. Although the Blu camera's tap to focus is faster and more responsive. At this price range, it's not a big difference between the two phones.
-While their EMUI interface takes time to learn, it have some useful features, such as network control for apps. This let you disable data or wifi access for any apps you want, which is a very useful security feature.
-Very nice metal body.
-Finger print scanner, which I don't use.
It's a bit hard to choose which phone I would use as the daily driver. I think that if you go with the Blu, the software is good enough that you don't need to install custom roms. If you go with the Honor 5X, I believe you will need to install custom roms if you want the most out of the performance. I would have to pick the Blu Vivo XL as better value for the money, since it performs better for $50 less, and may last longer due to removable battery and USB Type C connector (more durable than microUSB). Also I like it when companies throw in free phone case and headphones, which is lacking in the Honor 5X packaging.
hamilLewiston said:
so i found that there is an option on the desktop settings to 'hide' apps that you don't want to see on the desktop. it will hide the apps, with a password / pin. i'll post a guide later.
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wheres the guide?
Thanks you for this app
Hey,
I'm rocking a tmobile 128gb blue note 9 and it takes takes some nice photos but I as I was playing around in my house after sunset(night) I took a photo of my couch. I have my ceiling light on, and low and behold there was a HUGE yellow tint to the photos. Not like a filter but more like the default white balance and tone were completely off. Used my moms iphone 7, and the photo was more natural in color from the same angle and lighting. Also swapped cameras and tried my note's front camera and the lighting was also normal. When I use the camera in natural light, the colors are fine and pictures beautiful.
https://forums.androidcentral.com/samsung-galaxy-note-4/457879-photos-yellow-help.html
Googled it and found similar issues, tho thats a note 4.... Any ideas how I could fix this? The photo still has a ton of detail..it just seems again the default white balance and tone is way way off resulting in an inaccurate color scheme. I can post photos tonight when the sun goes down if it helps clarify
Thanks for reading guys !
EDIT: uploaded the reference images from a later post to the main post. 1st image is the yellow hue one from the back, the front camera is the second image and you can see the image is..normal.
I'd be interested to see an example, are you sure the White balance isn't just incorrect?
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willhemmens said:
I'd be interested to see an example, are you sure the White balance isn't just incorrect?
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Here are two photos using an apple as reference...notice the one w/ the back camera is much more yellow in hue than the front camera. I wish the back camera was similar in color to the front colors.
Found this article:
https://www.androidauthority.com/samsung-galaxy-note-9-camera-review-900461/
It seems the note 9 actually may be crappy at determing the right white balance/temp with poor light which leads me to think, if this is the case then why does the back struggle while the front is able to do it properly?
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I agree, lower lightphotos get pretty yellowish. Seems easily fixable with a patch. I hope it is.
gamekill said:
I agree, lower lightphotos get pretty yellowish. Seems easily fixable with a patch. I hope it is.
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Thank you for the reply.
I googled a review and it seems to be the case with low light, easily fixable with any photo editing software. You want 2500k for indoor photos, which is what I adjusted the white balance to and then wham, perfect.
The front camera doesnt have this issue, but the back does? What gives? It's obviously a software issue...
I was worried I had a defective unit, but it's safe to say it may just be samsung's software?
Yeah after reading your comment, I used Snapseed and TOOLS - White Balance - AW (auto) on my 3 previously posted photos. Before/after comparison:
EDIT: sorry Ⅰ messed up, some of them came as thumbnails and the newer ones as full size images. To compare it is better if you click-open them all on different tabs and switch between the tabs.
gamekill said:
Yeah after reading your comment, I used Snapseed and TOOLS - White Balance - AW (auto) on my 3 previously posted photos. Before/after comparison:
EDIT: sorry Ⅰ messed up, some of them came as thumbnails and the newer ones as full size images. To compare it is better if you click-open them all on different tabs and switch between the tabs.
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Can only see the before photos, maybe use imgur instead or upload to the forum instead?
Yeah well, if my unit isnt defective and this is widespread perhaps maybe we can get a few more people to test it and submit it to samsung?
Maybe nothing happens but hey worth a shot....it really does seem like an easy fix(hopefully)
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Can only see the before photos, maybe use imgur instead or upload to the forum instead?
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Fixed. Now that I fixed it btw, I guess Using Snapseed Auto White did not really give the best results. Only improved the lighting a little. I should try the 2500K thing properly..
BTW what app do you use? All apps I tried until now do not let me specify 2500K, but instead, have a + / - % adjustment slider.
Low light performance is bad beside my old p20 pro
Here's Photoshop Express' magic wand (attached).
rowihel2012 said:
Low light performance is bad beside my old p20 pro
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Low light performance is actually pretty impressive.
Here's DXO's Note 9 Low light test vs P20 Pro Low light test.
Note 9 takes the win imo.
gamekill said:
Fixed. Now that I fixed it btw, I guess Using Snapseed Auto White did not really give the best results. Only improved the lighting a little. I should try the 2500K thing properly..
BTW what app do you use? All apps I tried until now do not let me specify 2500K, but instead, have a + / - % adjustment slider.
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I took my photo originally in pro mode, with 'save jpeg and raw photos' enabled. I used all auto in pro anyways, so it's the same as auto just also saves in raw...
I then edited my photo in snapseed, which then prompts snapseed to open its raw editor. You aren't given as much to work with as with a jpeg.. but you can adjust the basic settings such as temp, wb, etc.
Anyways, when you're in 'raw mode' in snapseed, it shows you the default temperature(i guess JPEG doesnt save that info?) and you can slide it down to whatever temperature and eyeball it to see what looks good. Every one of my photos taken indoors with a yellowlish light, if i simply edit it...it becomes normal.
Here's a chart actually for WB: https://www.shopmoment.com/momentist/how-to-shoot-manual-white-balance
Now the question is, why is it that indoors my front camera produces auto photos with perfect white balance but when I use my rear camera, it has a messed up white balance when taken in a room with yellowish lights? You obviously have the same issue, so I think we can rule out defects. I noticed the yellowlish tint/white balance being off in some example low light photos at night actually where theres yellow light present in some reviews of the camera on various websites. This seems like a system wide thing, and would be great if maybe some others could test it out so we could make some noise?
Nope ....
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Nope ....
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Nope what? If you're referring to off wb, it only appears to happen when the main light is yellow. Otherwise, the camera works fine. Went outside last night and took a photo, it's very good in low light. Inside with the lights on(mine are yellowish in hue)? Photos come out wrong.
In your case...seems to be no major yellow light source.
My photo, willhemmens photo with the skulls and the photo here( https://forums.androidcentral.com/s...21378-yellow-hue-photos-help.html#post6389992 ) with the yellow hue. For some reasons, photos under yellow light are producing off balance hues. Any other light? works perfectly....
Least my case, but maybe I have a defect? It's what im trying to figure out, but it seems like others are experiencing the same. Don't wanna go in for a warranty claim if I don't have too.
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Nope what? If you're referring to off wb, it only appears to happen when the main light is yellow. Otherwise, the camera works fine. Went outside last night and took a photo, it's very good in low light. Inside with the lights on(mine are yellowish in hue)? Photos come out wrong.
In your case...seems to be no major yellow light source.
My photo, willhemmens photo with the skulls and the photo here( https://forums.androidcentral.com/s...21378-yellow-hue-photos-help.html#post6389992 ) with the yellow hue. For some reasons, photos under yellow light are producing off balance hues. Any other light? works perfectly....
Least my case, but maybe I have a defect? It's what im trying to figure out, but it seems like others are experiencing the same. Don't wanna go in for a warranty claim if I don't have too.
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Yes the low light indoors is yellowish sometimes.
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Hi,
Does anyone know what the different 'picture quality' settings in the camera app mean? There are 3 settings, low, standard and high. What do these actually do, and is there one that you prefer? A separate setting exists that says Enhance Image Quality. Isn't that kind of redundant, and should this be kept on?
In a lot of youtube video reviews for this phone, they compare the photo quality of the phone, and then they say something like, after 4-1 binning, the photo looks much better. If this is the case, what settings do I need to set on the phone to get the '4-1 binned' quality?
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Picture quality is so obvious, I do not have numbers but it is about resolution and number of pixels. Try to take the same photo with different quality then try to zoom in photo to understand.
enhanced image quality is a nice feature that I have turned off, I like raw images than enhanced and I hate that sometimes it goes to night mode while I want to take low light photos , but it definitely is a great feature.
Not sure what is 4-1 binning and never heard of it.
My settings are the following:
HDR AUTO
AI OFF
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Under camera settings:
Mode section: motion capture on, the rest are off. High quality picture.
Under preserve settings, beautify off**** was passing me off before update.
That is more than enough for me for images.
Hope it helps
Why is Samsung so much better for midrange and actually somewhat more money than I got this Sony 2ndhand nearly new, I once had a A72 and an A70 before that, and now even this emergency replacement which I don't recommend of a low tier Samsung, and they just have way more options, and the things the 70 and 72 do/did are so much better.
Short list:
Samsung will append screenshots with app name where they were taken
Samsung will screen record until the battery dies, I have made very long screen recordings. There is no time limit in Samsung.
Samsung has a more sensitive screen algorithm for determining what a back button gesture (in from sides) is.
Samsung will screen shot scrolling down very far before limit.
Samsung will allow me to select based on the caption of the drop down quick panel seperately from the blue icons. This is 2 buttons in one, compared to Sony.
Samsung is showing certain metadata that is not showing in the same music player app in the Sony, specifically not seen by the app is the Artist Name.
The SONY just doesn't seem to get these ideas. In fact I had a low budget Sony Xperia a few years prior to owning this, and it was almost the same as this.
The Samsung camera zooms in and out just as this does, but actually takes more vivid and interesting pictures and is just easier to use.