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About to purchase: any deals to be had on the Tilt?

All,
Looks like I missed out on the 50% off deal (posted here). I'm interested in a Tilt, but the $100 Premier website rebate won't apply since I'm not getting a data plan.
Is there a better deal than the AT&T premier site @ $399 that doesn't require a data plan?
Thanks!
-Brett.
PS - Mods/admins: if this is off topic I apologize. Feel free to remove/lock. I guessed that this was the right forum to post this in.

I got mine from Newegg. Two-year re-up (I was out of contract) but no data plan required. $150 after mail-in.

Third said:
I got mine from Newegg. Two-year re-up (I was out of contract) but no data plan required. $150 after mail-in.
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Thanks for the heads-up... but I forgot to mention: I'm in need of a family plan 9two phones for my wife and I) and Newegg doesn't currently offer anything other than single line plans.
Tried Amazon but they don't even seem to give the option to buy the Tilt w/o a data plan.
Thanks,
-Brett.

I got mine for $149.95 after all the rebates, going through Costco.com. But the phone came from AT&T. I have the family plan, and the AT&T site within Costco page will check your entitlement to receive the phone. you must sign for the 2Yr program. No data plan suggested, however I have it.

When I go through the costco site, it brings me to the att costco site. there is a mail in rebate there for 100 on the tilt, but theres a plus next to it that says it requires a PDA personal plan, an unlimited data plan, or a 19.99 or higher messaging plan. Are there any mail in rebates around that DON'T require a data plan of some type?

I just got mine for $249 without data plan from Letstalk.com. Family plan and no data service required. Let me know and I can refer you and you get $25 off.

Pretty good price - straight up
I've ordered mine from CDW. They are in Chicago, IL. The college where I work get most of our computer stuff from there and they're great folks to deal with.
If you go to their website http://www.cdw.com/shop/products/default.aspx?EDC=1325326 you'll find it under the 8925. It says CALL for the price, but if you will call them you'll get it for no more than $469.00 I'm actually getting mine for $427 but that's cause of government discount. You might could get it for that or something close. These are brand new unlocked AT&T Tilts. I've done a good bit of research and this is absolutely the cheapest I've found with no strings attached from someone you can trust. Good luck.

asfoor said:
I got mine for $149.95 after all the rebates, going through Costco.com. But the phone came from AT&T. I have the family plan, and the AT&T site within Costco page will check your entitlement to receive the phone. you must sign for the 2Yr program. No data plan suggested, however I have it.
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Thanks for the Costco tip, I'm a member but it never occurred to me to check there. They have the phone by itself for the same price as the AT&T premier store ($399) and they also listed a "package" consisting of Bluetooth headset - Motorola H700, Car Charger - AT&T/Cingular, Black Leather Case - AT&T/Palm Treo which was priced as follows:
Package Price $559.96
Online Discount - $129.97
Mail-in Rebate Card - $30.00
Mail-in Rebate Card - $100.00
Package Savings $259.97
Online Price* $299.99
Free Bluetooth, charger and case
*2 yr contract-New service price
However, the $100 rebate was contingent on a data plan, and I couldn't find a way to add this package to a family plan, only to an individual plan. Plus the monthly rates were no cheaper through Costco. I can get an approx 17% discount through the AT&T Premier site so it looks like that's the way to go for me.
If anyone knows of a way to get the above "package" through Costco on a family plan w/o a data add-on.... please clue me in!
Thanks,
-Brett.

Since you are doing the family plan, you can add on Family Unlimited messaging for $24 per month. This will cover what is required to meet the rebate. Nothing in the rebate indicates you have to keep this for any length of time, so after you get the rebate then drop the messaging part of the plan. So that gets you the phone for $399 less $100 for the rebate, and will cost you about $50 more (if the rebate truely comes in 8 weeks).
Since I have teenagers, I'm on the unlimited messaging family plan anyway (and then have the $20 unlimited MediaNet (whatever they call it now)).

mfrazzz said:
Since you are doing the family plan, you can add on Family Unlimited messaging for $24 per month. This will cover what is required to meet the rebate. Nothing in the rebate indicates you have to keep this for any length of time, so after you get the rebate then drop the messaging part of the plan. So that gets you the phone for $399 less $100 for the rebate, and will cost you about $50 more (if the rebate truely comes in 8 weeks).
Since I have teenagers, I'm on the unlimited messaging family plan anyway (and then have the $20 unlimited MediaNet (whatever they call it now)).
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Hey, that's a good idea. I think a variation of it might work, since the Family Messaging Unlimited is showing as $30/mo for me.
The requirement is "+Requires activation on a PDA Personal Plan or a $39.99 or higher unlimited data rate plan or a $19.99 or higher messaging plan plus an AT&T Voice Plan of $39.99 or higher."
We were already planning on adding the $5 "Messaging starter" add-on to both lines ($10/mo) since we don't do much messaging. If I add the "Messaging unlimited" option to the Tilt for $19.99/mo it would satisfy the rebate req's, and only cost me $15/mo over what I was already planning. Keep that for 2-3 months to obtain the rebate then drop back to the $5 plan... and I'm out $30 for a net of $70 savings on the rebate.
Good thinking, thanks!
-Brett.
PS - Currently using your Rev 3 ROM on my 8125 and loving it. Still can't get IBM Easysync installed, but I'm keeping my eyes out for a version that's compatible with WM6.

zzoinks said:
Hey, that's a good idea. I think a variation of it might work, since the Family Messaging Unlimited is showing as $30/mo for me.
The requirement is "+Requires activation on a PDA Personal Plan or a $39.99 or higher unlimited data rate plan or a $19.99 or higher messaging plan plus an AT&T Voice Plan of $39.99 or higher."
We were already planning on adding the $5 "Messaging starter" add-on to both lines ($10/mo) since we don't do much messaging. If I add the "Messaging unlimited" option to the Tilt for $19.99/mo it would satisfy the rebate req's, and only cost me $15/mo over what I was already planning. Keep that for 2-3 months to obtain the rebate then drop back to the $5 plan... and I'm out $30 for a net of $70 savings on the rebate.
Good thinking, thanks!
-Brett.
PS - Currently using your Rev 3 ROM on my 8125 and loving it. Still can't get IBM Easysync installed, but I'm keeping my eyes out for a version that's compatible with WM6.
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Can you still get the monthly rate discount even if you do not sign-up through ATT? Looking at the website for my school (Ga Tech), there is an option for existing customers to sign-up for discounts using the online validation process.

promine21 said:
Can you still get the monthly rate discount even if you do not sign-up through ATT? Looking at the website for my school (Ga Tech), there is an option for existing customers to sign-up for discounts using the online validation process.
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Sorry, no idea. I'm using the AT&T "Premier" site through my employer.
-Brett.

So does anyone know if one could talk NewEgg or Costco into a sale? I currently have til 5/6/08 for an upgrade (still in 2yr contract). I got the "OK" from both the AT&T store for the phone (they wanted $299+Accessory pack of $100, w/ renewed 2yr) and AT&T's phone support (they wanted just $299+2yr renewal agreement).
Are these retail outlets less inclined? Or can they still do the same checks (I qualified early because of a broken-out-of-production/warranty phone and good credit)?
Anyone had success with something like that?

Where can I buy the Tilt 8900 (no cameras) without any plan?
I live abroad, so any plan would be useless.
Thank you.

An update in case anyone cares. I ended up going directly through the AT&T store where they matched the pricing from their "Premier" web site. Ended up getting it for $399 out the door with a $100 rebate. (Thanks to mfrazzz's tip about the messaging plan)
I am now a very happy member of the "Tilt" community. I'm considering flashing it to a different ROM but for now I'm just enjoying it.
Thanks,
-Brett.

zzoinks said:
An update in case anyone cares. I ended up going directly through the AT&T store where they matched the pricing from their "Premier" web site. Ended up getting it for $399 out the door with a $100 rebate. (Thanks to mfrazzz's tip about the messaging plan)
I am now a very happy member of the "Tilt" community. I'm considering flashing it to a different ROM but for now I'm just enjoying it.
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Cool! Yeah, I'm loving my Tilt too. I've flashed the newer 1.60 AT&T stock rom, but haven't went to a custom yet (but probably will before the week is out).
Have to say, for me, so far the stock rom is pretty reliable (much better than the old stock roms for the Wizard... LOL).

Mfrazzz, when i had my wizard your roms were awsome...
U should start making so roms
glad to see u here

dan5.5 said:
Mfrazzz, when i had my wizard your roms were awsome...
U should start making so roms
glad to see u here
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Thanks... I've already downloaded the kitchen and a few custom roms to pull apart and look at. Give me some time to look at how things work in this new world for me. Haven't even had my Tilt a week yet, but I'm already thinking about a custom rom for me (and will probably release if its very different from whats already available.

Hi, just a thought (and this comes from a few years of phone buying!)
Just check if the phone you get on a cheap rate is not one of the carriers 'old basic' units.
You can see from this forum that updates are available, and from quite a few that they are discontented with carrier versions in the US.
What makes you think that a cheap option will give you the best phone?
Just hoping to help.

Tmo Nexus one vs At&t Nexus one

Im currently thinking about switching to at&t from tmobile.
One reason is my work gets a 22% discount the at&t vrs 12% at Tmo.
Also with taxes and unlimited everything im paying about a hundred which is kind of rediculous. (Without my discount)
Has anyone switched before and have a little more insight about data and plans between the two networks. I already know tmobile has hspa+. But will i end up paying more at at&t?
I already have someone lined up to trade my tmo nexus for a att nexus. Im just skeptical. And yes im going to pay etf fee even though i dont want too.
Help me out here people.

Att generally is more money for the same service and their coverage is not much better at least where I live
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First of all, don't sign a contract because you're providing your own phone so you don't need to go on contract. Secondly, have you checked to make sure that T-Mobile has 3G in your area? What's your zip code?

How much etf do you have to pay? I dont think its a smart move to switch from tmo to att because of the extra 10% savings. Im pretty sure atts prices are inflated above the 10% difference. If you really wanted to save money then you can just switch your tmobile plan from your unlimited everything. If you switch your texting to google voice you can save $20 a month just from that. You can lower your minutes and start using sipdroid for your calls and have virtually unlimited free calls as long as you have decent data connection or wifi, and you can use your tmobile minutes as a backup.
So if you really wanted to get creative and still have a virtually unlimited plan you can sign up for the 500 minute plan on tmobile for $29.99, and get on the $10 web2go plan (this is the reason alone why i wont upgrade my phone for a long long time). $40 a month, and no contract.

smachine said:
How much etf do you have to pay? I dont think its a smart move to switch from tmo to att because of the extra 10% savings. Im pretty sure atts prices are inflated above the 10% difference. If you really wanted to save money then you can just switch your tmobile plan from your unlimited everything. If you switch your texting to google voice you can save $20 a month just from that. You can lower your minutes and start using sipdroid for your calls and have virtually unlimited free calls as long as you have decent data connection or wifi, and you can use your tmobile minutes as a backup.
So if you really wanted to get creative and still have a virtually unlimited plan you can sign up for the 500 minute plan on tmobile for $29.99, and get on the $10 web2go plan (this is the reason alone why i wont upgrade my phone for a long long time). $40 a month, and no contract.
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2 questions... how do I get on web2go plan. And how do I use gvoice for texting?

pretty sure web2go is one of the old grandfathered plans the only way you have it is if you stuck with your plan and never changed it.
T-mobile just like other carriers play dirty tricks with plans to get their money back from subsidized phones.
i for example recently went the route of buying a used N1 for more than a G2 would have cost me subsidized up front because i'm on a grandfathered G1 data plan so currently i pay 55 dollars a month for 300 min 400 texts and unlimited data. i dont talk or text enough on my phone to justify more so its the cheapest thing for me to do is stick with it. if its not enough for me at some point i can upgrade to the even more whatever base plan without contract because i'm out of contract on my G1 now and it will run me 60 a month for 500 anytime unlimited text and data. had i bought a subed G2 i would have had to pay 80 a month for the same exact plan that is 60 off contract.
from what i have seen ATT is about 20 dollars more a month for the base plan that you would want on a N1 or other similar phone and as i said before in my experience at least in the SF bay area coverage is equal between t-mobile and ATT for the most part, maybe a slight edge to ATT in some places but for the most part the same.
Sprint is the only carrier that i have seen that comes close to the cost of T-mo and even with a subed phone like a EVO 4G your only looking at 70ish a month for a comparable plan but its nice staying off contract because it gives me more options in the not so distance future

jm1999 said:
2 questions... how do I get on web2go plan. And how do I use gvoice for texting?
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I signed up just last week with tmobile and picked the $10 unlimited internet for phone option which is the same as web2go. Log into your tmobile account and go to add services, and there should be $10 unlimited mobile web for phones. Just make sure you do it before tmobile changes to the tiered plans, and set your device as being a dumbphone. Set your apn settings to internet2.voicestream.com and it will be good to go.
For google voice texting you just use the built in google voice application, or the normal contact list on your phone. It will send texts out from your google voice number. I sent one massive text out to all my contacts telling them my google voice number was my new main number. Might seem like a pain telling people a new number but after you do this it will help you out in the long run. You can setup sipdroid for free calls and all incoming and outgoing calls from your google voice number can be made without the use of any minutes if you have data/wifi. I made a step by step guide for that at this link:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=8813244&postcount=18

I went the other way and am never going back to att!
My plan right now costs half of what att used to charge me
go tmo!
Ps: usually the discount only applies to the main line.
on both networks

Droid Bionic Corporate discount - like getting Bionic for $150.00

I got my Bionic for $250.00 and we have a nationwide corporate pool that includes....wait for it...unlimited data. They are also running a promo for new customers where you can send in your old pos phone and get at least a $100.00 Verizon gift card. Accessories here I come.
The main point is if you have a decent corporate discount, you can get it for $250.00 then send in an old phone and get $100.00 gift card which you can use to pay your bill. It is like getting it for $150.00

I was told that you're only eligible for the gift card if you are coming from a device without a data plan...

Are you sure about the unlimited data? I thought unlimited data was gone even for corporate users? Unless you particular company has a separate secret deal with VZ....

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I was told that you're only eligible for the gift card if you are coming from a device without a data plan...
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Which would mean you lose your grandfathered in unlimited data plan....wait...going from 3G to 4G do they grandfather in your unlimited data?

shadowclock said:
Which would mean you lose your grandfathered in unlimited data plan....wait...going from 3G to 4G do they grandfather in your unlimited data?
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I ordered my Bionic this morning and was able to keep my unlimited plan coming from a 3g smartphone (Incredible).

I was able to keep unlimited data coming from the inc as well

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Are you sure about the unlimited data? I thought unlimited data was gone even for corporate users? Unless you particular company has a separate secret deal with VZ....
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Yup, we have a super secret deal I guess. We have 117,000 employees.

dan46n2 said:
I was told that you're only eligible for the gift card if you are coming from a device without a data plan...
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It says for new customers. The way I read it, I should be able to send in whatever old phone I have and I will get at least 100.00. It doesn't have to be a Verizon phone.

I got my phone this AM for 149+ tax. It was 249 the a additional 100 off for going from a 3G to 4g smartphone.

The $100 special offer is for going from a feature phone to a 4G phone, and for that you have to mail in the feature phone and jump through some more hoops, not an instant discount. So power to you brother, but whatever you got wasn't the "Get Paid to Trade" deal.
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[Q] Why wouldn't everybody in the US chose the GoPhone Plan?

A little confused. Given the fact we do NOT have LTE and won;t be getting it until late 2013 (or maybe don't need it) Why not just get s $50 unlimited everything GoPhone plan?
What am i missing here. I am off contract and thinking of calling ATT and putting our shared 700 min $15each MediaNet, no messaging at $100 a month on two $50 unlimited GoPhone plans. We would gain messaging and unlimited calling.....That is a huge benefit for the same money.
I don't see the disadvantage to this other than not getting subsidized phones..ATT already does not recognize our i9100s and offer the SGS II on their GoPhone site so our SIMS should work..Seems to me all ATT has to do is pull a switch and transfer out account to a prepaid account. The it would not matter which phone we use..(maybe iPhone is a no no though)
So what is the downside? We still would get the same MediaNet 3G+ data I think. IF ATT saw pour phones and changed our plan I would change anyway to the GoPhone .

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A little confused. Given the fact we do NOT have LTE and won;t be getting it until late 2013 (or maybe don't need it) Why not just get s $50 unlimited everything GoPhone plan?
What am i missing here. I am off contract and thinking of calling ATT and putting our shared 700 min $15each MediaNet, no messaging at $100 a month on two $50 unlimited GoPhone plans. We would gain messaging and unlimited calling.....That is a huge benefit for the same money.
I don't see the disadvantage to this other than not getting subsidized phones..ATT already does not recognize our i9100s and offer the SGS II on their GoPhone site so our SIMS should work..Seems to me all ATT has to do is pull a switch and transfer out account to a prepaid account. The it would not matter which phone we use..(maybe iPhone is a no no though)
So what is the downside? We still would get the same MediaNet 3G+ data I think. IF ATT saw pour phones and changed our plan I would change anyway to the GoPhone .
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Cause it looks like you have to buy a smartphone package along with it in order to have data on the phone. For 500mb a month that adds an extra $25 a month and that is the max you can get. So yeah that's probably why
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psychoace said:
Cause it looks like you have to buy a smartphone package along with it in order to have data on the phone. For 500mb a month that adds an extra $25 a month and that is the max you can get. So yeah that's probably why
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Missed that..All I saw was $50 UL Everything but did not distinguish between phones....Makes sense now. Thanks

Moto X Verizon keep unlimited data

Hey guys, sorry if this had been brought up before. I helped my dad order a moto x and we both are expecting he'll lose his unlimited data plan, but the interesting thing is on the moto x site and the order confirmation it says the following:
VEZVerizon Individual Keep Existing Plan
So I'm wondering if anyone has presented this to Verizon upon activation and successfully argued to keep their unlimited data plan?
Wishful thinking, I know
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hlaalu said:
Hey guys, sorry if this had been brought up before. I helped my dad order a moto x and we both are expecting he'll lose his unlimited data plan, but the interesting thing is on the moto x site and the order confirmation it says the following:
VEZVerizon Individual Keep Existing Plan
So I'm wondering if anyone has presented this to Verizon upon activation and successfully argued to keep their unlimited data plan?
Wishful thinking, I know
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I'd guess you'll only find out on the first new bill. Why didnt you grab one on Cyber Monday or subsequent days? Then for sure wouldn't lose unlimited.

hlaalu said:
Hey guys, sorry if this had been brought up before. I helped my dad order a moto x and we both are expecting he'll lose his unlimited data plan, but the interesting thing is on the moto x site and the order confirmation it says the following:
VEZVerizon Individual Keep Existing Plan
So I'm wondering if anyone has presented this to Verizon upon activation and successfully argued to keep their unlimited data plan?
Wishful thinking, I know
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how did you purchase the device? did you buy it full retail or did you buy it as part of an upgrade? if you purchased it as an upgrade, you will for sure lose your unlimited data. if you bought it full retail, nothing about your services will change.
there are methods for using an alternate upgrade while keeping unlimited data that have been detailed all over this forum.

Yep, so long as you don't do it as part of your upgrade cycle from Verizon you should be good.
OTHO you effectively end up paying double for the phone then because the plan is priced as if you always use the upgrade as soon as possible.

RoyalPeasantry said:
Yep, so long as you don't do it as part of your upgrade cycle from Verizon you should be good.
OTHO you effectively end up paying double for the phone then because the plan is priced as if you always use the upgrade as soon as possible.
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Depends on your plan. I pay $75 a month after all taxes and fees for my unlimited data plan. Cheapest you can get now before taxes and fees is 80 bucks, and realistically I'd be on the $110 a month plan. I save over $400 yearly compared to what I would get if I took a subsidized phone that I would have to keep for 2 years. Don't even get me started on 'Edge'.

RoyalPeasantry said:
Yep, so long as you don't do it as part of your upgrade cycle from Verizon you should be good.
OTHO you effectively end up paying double for the phone then because the plan is priced as if you always use the upgrade as soon as possible.
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this kills me. no carrier has ever removed the subsidy from anyone's plan for paying off a device. all plans are (or were) priced to include the subsidy. if you're out of contract, you're still paying for that subsidy. if you pay full retail, you're still paying for the subsidy.
so yes, in effect, your plan is priced so that you take advantage of your "upgrade" every 2 years. but taking advantage of the subsidy does not mean you are effectively "paying double" for the device.
however, if you change plans so that you can keep using upgrades (remove unlimited), then yes, you are effectively paying more for the device. you would be better off paying full retail and keeping your old plan (with unlimited) than switching to the new share everything plans.

640k said:
this kills me. no carrier has ever removed the subsidy from anyone's plan for paying off a device. all plans are (or were) priced to include the subsidy. if you're out of contract, you're still paying for that subsidy. if you pay full retail, you're still paying for the subsidy.
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TMobile?
http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-57...r-of-words-after-killing-subsidies-contracts/
AT&T?
http://gigaom.com/2013/12/05/att-takes-on-t-mobile-with-new-contract-free-plan-pricing/
so yes, in effect, your plan is priced so that you take advantage of your "upgrade" every 2 years. but taking advantage of the subsidy does not mean you are effectively "paying double" for the device.
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I assume you meant 'not taking advantage of the subsidy'? No, you're not paying double for the device, instead you're paying approximately as much more for the plan as you would have for another device.
however, if you change plans so that you can keep using upgrades (remove unlimited), then yes, you are effectively paying more for the device. you would be better off paying full retail and keeping your old plan (with unlimited) than switching to the new share everything plans.
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You really can't make this statement in a general sense. It really depends on how much data you use.
If your phone is $100 after subsidy, but $580 without subsidy, you paid $480 'more' in order to keep your unlimited plan. $480 / 24 months is effectively an extra $20 / month that you wouldn't have had to spend if you didn't keep your unlimited plan. (Not to mention paying up front is much more painful then paying monthly)
Now, you're already spending $30 / month for the unlimited data plan, so thats $50 / month per phone. After the base price of $60 for 2GB it is $10 for each 2GB extra. Assuming 2 people on the plan they could get 10 GB for the same price. Each extra $50 per person can get you another 10 GB for the same price.
I'm not a light data user, and the most I've ever hit on my phone in a month is 8 GB, and thats with deliberately refusing to use wifi even when I could have. With wifi I could have negated almost all of that. On average I use under 1 GB per month.
Anyway, most people with more than 2 people on the plan could easily save money by switching to the share everything plan, its not anywhere near as simple as 'the unlimited plan is always better'.