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Unlock option?

Which unlock option are you going to use? I want to try face unlock for Jelly Bean, I've never tried it for ICS but it looks pretty awesome for JB with the "Liveness" check (Blink)
Here's a link for for a review showing the new face unlock: http://androidcommunity.com/jelly-bean-brings-liveness-to-face-unlock-requires-a-blink-20120629/

Slide to unlock, just to stick it to Apple

Cel1084 said:
Slide to unlock, just to stick it to Apple
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Totally forgot about that, stupid me.

Cel1084 said:
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This. Do the same on my phone. Thankfully I keep company that doesn't exploit the fact that my devices are easily unlockable

That's the first I've seen of Face Unlock. Seems pretty fun but I imagine I'd probably just use the slide in the end.

I wanted to use face unlock but I'm not sure I trust it not to get the face detection wrong so I'll be using the pin, there too much data on tablets and phones for me to use slide to lock.

You have a pin as well as face unlock just in case, so you always be able to get into you tablet/phone.
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Thanks, thought it was odd there wasn't a failsafe, no mention of it in the manual though.

I've tried to use Face Unlock on my phone before but I prefer to have the quick access to the camera that slide to unlock provides. Besides, I just don't really dig it all that much.

MaxCarnage said:
I've tried to use Face Unlock on my phone before but I prefer to have the quick access to the camera that slide to unlock provides. Besides, I just don't really dig it all that much.
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I've used face unlock a lot, and enojy not having to do anything but look at my phone, having said that I'm done with it, like being able to go straight to google or camera from the screen. CM9 you could have both, maybe if CM comes out for the Nexus 7 i'll go back to have a bit of security.
in regard to the liveness check, my experience so far has been that it often says "didn't catch your blink" i also haven't included more photos of myself to improve face matching since going to JB on my nexus, maybe that would help, as I think sometimes "didn't catch your blink" really means "didn't recognize you"

Ever since I forgot my tablet in a public place and realized that absolutely random person could read my mail, chat logs etc., I use pattern unlock, because it isn't too cumbersome, yet reliable.

Try Visidon it works better than ICS face unlock and you can also face unlock individual apps.
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What's needed to work on the Bootloader

What are we needing in order to figure out how to unlock or bypass the AT&T Bootloader?
I downloaded the stock files and have the aboot.mbn and the sbl1/sdi.mdn files. I have never worked on bootloader files before, but have some experience modding kernel and ROM level code.
This may be ignorant on my part - but since we have the files, couldn't we open and manipulate the code that is currently restricting 3rd party recoveries, kernels and ROMS?
What is needed? And/or, could we not utilize the modified bootloaders from another device with similar architecture? Perhaps like the Note 3 or even the S4; not to mention the T-Mobile S5? Since the T-Mobile and AT&T versions of all Samsung phones are almost identical, I would assume that would be the easist route - at least to help determine the differences that are restricting our device.....
Let me know if anyone needs these files or has info on what to look for within them.... I'm happy to mod anything on my end.
Thanks !

Because it is locked we can't just flash over it with another one due to signatures and miss match.
Need to research into the os and associated code to find an exploit that can be used like safestrap.
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TheArtiszan said:
Because it is locked we can't just flash over it with another one due to signatures and miss match.
Need to research into the os and associated code to find an exploit that can be used like safestrap.
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Or if someone that works at AT&T or Samsung would be nice enough to leak a signing key or a signed unlocked bootloader.

Key from Tmobile S5
T-mobile S5 is rooted. Can we find the signing key used for Tmobile phones? Is there is a remote chance keys are same?
Will recoveries on Tmobile and ATT phone be same?

yoonus said:
T-mobile S5 is rooted. Can we find the signing key used for Tmobile phones? Is there is a remote chance keys are same?
Will recoveries on Tmobile and ATT phone be same?
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Thats a good question. I wonder if we know how many keys the S5 will accept for signed updates? I.e. Is there a Samsung and a AT&T key for all S5's or is it per model or is it derived somehow from the IEMI.

Why would the developers even waste their time on the AT&T S5? They know the story behind it. Same ol' thing. I would rather have them actually develop roms on the T-Mobile S5, which we all can use btw, instead of wasting time on trying to unlock the bootloader. If it could be hacked, it would have, LONG AGO!

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T-mobile S5 is rooted. Can we find the signing key used for Tmobile phones? Is there is a remote chance keys are same?
Will recoveries on Tmobile and ATT phone be same?
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How would the key used for the G900T be helpful? Its not like the key is on some partition somewhere

MattMJB0188 said:
Why would the developers even waste their time on the AT&T S5? They know the story behind it. Same ol' thing. I would rather have them actually develop roms on the T-Mobile S5, which we all can use btw, instead of wasting time on trying to unlock the bootloader. If it could be hacked, it would have, LONG AGO!
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Well to be fair, if you took the best developers and hardware/software hackers in the world and put them in a room with an amazing salary.. it would be hacked..
So lets not say that its impossible. It is just extremely difficult and beyond the scope of the few developers (if any) that are still around trying to crack into it. The problem is that there aren't that many people that just want to sit around trying to figure out a way to make it work, they would rather move to different phones and carriers instead, because its just overall easier.

MattMJB0188 said:
Why would the developers even waste their time on the AT&T S5? They know the story behind it. Same ol' thing. I would rather have them actually develop roms on the T-Mobile S5, which we all can use btw, instead of wasting time on trying to unlock the bootloader. If it could be hacked, it would have, LONG AGO!
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Yep, hate to burst anyone's bubble who has a G900A, but it's not going to happen... EVER. Options are to hold out for a developer edition phone from Samsung or get a T-mobile version... which is exactly the same thing minus the restrictions. Or if you are pissed at AT&T, just find another carrier. Maybe if there was enough churn from this, they would stop doing it.

enigma99a said:
Yep, hate to burst anyone's bubble who has a G900A, but it's not going to happen... EVER. Options are to hold out for a developer edition phone from Samsung or get a T-mobile version... which is exactly the same thing minus the restrictions. Or if you are pissed at AT&T, just find another carrier. Maybe if there was enough churn from this, they would stop doing it.
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The s5 will get root same as the s4 did. People just need to be patient. There is definitely a dev that is working to unlock this thing. Everyone said the same thing about the s4 and now look

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Yep, hate to burst anyone's bubble who has a G900A, but it's not going to happen... EVER. Options are to hold out for a developer edition phone from Samsung or get a T-mobile version... which is exactly the same thing minus the restrictions. Or if you are pissed at AT&T, just find another carrier. Maybe if there was enough churn from this, they would stop doing it.
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People like you make me laugh. Not even 2 weeks after release and you're already declaring the device will NEVER get root. Lol.

karmuh said:
People like you make me laugh. Not even 2 weeks after release and you're already declaring the device will NEVER get root. Lol.
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Yea I don't think its fair to say it "will never" or "cannot be" done.

PunchLick said:
Yea I don't think its fair to say it "will never" or "cannot be" done.
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Exactly. It can be done and it will be done. Anyone thinking otherwise is pretty naive. But then again, it's expected from those who don't even have the AT&T model, but continue to post in the AT&T section.

nbrent1007 said:
The s5 will get root same as the s4 did. People just need to be patient. There is definitely a dev that is working to unlock this thing. Everyone said the same thing about the s4 and now look
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This thread is about the boot loader, not getting root.
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Yea I don't think its fair to say it "will never" or "cannot be" done.
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No. Again, there is a difference from root and unlocking the bootloader. I was referring to the bootloader as that's what this thread is discussing. I never said it was impossible, it is quite possible just takes a lot of hard work. My prediction is that it will never be fully unlocked.

enigma99a said:
This thread is about the boot loader, not getting root.
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No. Again, there is a difference from root and unlocking the bootloader. I was referring to the bootloader as that's what this thread is discussing. I never said it was impossible, it is quite possible just takes a lot of hard work. My prediction is that it will never be fully unlocked.
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I don't want to even have to worry about if it will or not, because I don't know who or how many are working on an exploit..
That's why I am switching to the One M8, but either way if/when something does change I may switch back.. I just would rather have fun now!

PunchLick said:
I don't want to even have to worry about if it will or not, because I don't know who or how many are working on an exploit..
That's why I am switching to the One M8, but either way if/when something does change I may switch back.. I just would rather have fun now!
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You can always put in a bounty in the Verizon thread. So devs like myself who have experience cracking and exploiting might show some interest

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You can always put in a bounty in the Verizon thread. So devs like myself who have experience cracking and exploiting might show some interest
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Id rather just not worry about it.
I do love Samsung, but HTC is the ethical choice.
Another one might be moving to TMO, but we shall seeee.......

PunchLick said:
Id rather just not worry about it.
I do love Samsung, but HTC is the ethical choice.
Another one might be moving to TMO, but we shall seeee.......
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+1. Loved Sammy but went to M8.
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You can always put in a bounty in the Verizon thread. So devs like myself who have experience cracking and exploiting might show some interest
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that bounty is up there pretty high already just sayin

cyberace1985 said:
that bounty is up there pretty high already just sayin
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I think the problem is SELinux is an extremely tough nut to crack(and I'm guessing you could easily get a six figure payday for an unknown SELinux/PaX kernel exploit in the black market at this point). Pretty much every linux kernel vulnerability exploit code I've seen fails on all of my boxes with SELinux, PAX and hardened GCC(one of these protection mechanisms always ends up killing the exploit before it can deliver its payload). Do we know exactly what SELinux and PAX(if any) features were enabled in the .config that Samsung used to compile the kernel (and if a hardened toolchain was used for the userland)? At least from what I've seen a properly configured SELinux box with Pax and hardened GCC is one of the toughest boxes to crack. I guess what we can hope for is that someone at Samsung did something stupid otherwise its quite possible we could be waiting for awhile(unless a key or signed unlocked bootloader leaks).
(edit: This applies to getting root through a kernel exploit.(Although with SELinux that isn't enough you need to not only be UID0 root but you also have to switch the role to sysadm_r. The bootloader I'm not 100 percent sure on the secure boot process but my understanding from reading other dev's threads is that this will be even harder than getting a root escalation in the SELinux kernel). Although if we could crack the bl we could just inject root easily.

Is root possible on SU4TL-44 without unloacking bootlloader?

Search isn't getting me an answer because all the results are about unlocking the bootloader. I'm likely selling the phone soon so I don't want to unlock, but I'd like to have root for the time being. Is there a path?

There is only temp root. It doesn't stick through reboots and after awhile becomes unstable.
Why would you be selling the phone soon? The turbo is still a very powerful phone and we will have nougat ROMs soon.
I don't plan on abandoning the turbo in the foreseeable future

rlb81 said:
Search isn't getting me an answer because all the results are about unlocking the bootloader. I'm likely selling the phone soon so I don't want to unlock, but I'd like to have root for the time being. Is there a path?
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Ignore Nitefire. Kingroot = bad. Not only does it not work consistently, but when it does, it lasts anywhere between 5 minutes and 1 reset. It has also messed up many phones with locked bootloaders. Whatever you want root for, it's not worth using Kingroot, especially if you plan on selling the phone soon.
If you insist on trying it, make sure you know how to re-flash the system partition. The changes that Kingroot makes cannot be removed with a factory reset.

rlb81 said:
Search isn't getting me an answer because all the results are about unlocking the bootloader.
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Because unlocking the bootloader is the only way to REALLY root this phone.

TheSt33v said:
Ignore Nitefire. Kingroot = bad. Not only does it not work consistently, but when it does, it lasts anywhere between 5 minutes and 1 reset. It has also messed up many phones with locked bootloaders. Whatever you want root for, it's not worth using Kingroot, especially if you plan on selling the phone soon.
If you insist on trying it, make sure you know how to re-flash the system partition. The changes that Kingroot makes cannot be removed with a factory reset.
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Thanks for the info. I think nitefire qualified the statement enough, it becomes unstable. Not something I'm looking for. Also I'm not sure how useful temp root would be.

Nitefire77 said:
There is only temp root. It doesn't stick through reboots and after awhile becomes unstable.
Why would you be selling the phone soon? The turbo is still a very powerful phone and we will have nougat ROMs soon.
I don't plan on abandoning the turbo in the foreseeable future
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I need more storage, and I'd like a better camera.

rlb81 said:
. Also I'm not sure how useful temp root would be.
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Not very. The phone is arguably worth more in a re-sale if bootloader is unlocked. Especially if sold on Swappa, which has a deal with XDA. You will already have done the hard work.

ChazzMatt said:
Not very. The phone is arguably worth more in a re-sale if bootloader is unlocked. Especially if sold on Swappa, which has a deal with XDA.
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Exactly why I don't want to unlock it. It will sell with SU4TL-44, new buyer can unlock it or take the OTAs.

rlb81 said:
Exactly why I don't want to unlock it. It will sell with SU4TL-44, new buyer can unlock it or take the OTAs.
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Why don't you want to update to SUTL-49? I think you aren't up to speed on current state of this phone dev-wise. Sunshine works on SUTL-49. There's no reason to stay on SUTL-44, unless you just like old software.
And somewhere we're not communicating. It's worth MORE money unlocked to people who know. And SUTL-49 seems like the last update it will ever receive anyway.

ChazzMatt said:
Why don't you want to update to SUTL-49? I think you aren't up to speed on current state of this phone dev-wise. Sunshine works on SUTL-49. There's no reason to stay on SUTL-44, unless you just like old software.
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You are correct here (I'm not up to speed). I was on one of compfreek's images via mofo root back when that was the only option. Afterwards I didn't have the time to mess with the phone and keep up with the evolving dev status due to life etc., so I just left my phone in that state because it was working fine and doing everything I needed at the time. I was aware that bootloader unlock was possible, I just didn't dedicate the time to get it done (really backing up and restoring is what I needed the time for, ~40gb over MTP is a nightmare, currently looking for better alternatives).
I decided I want to upgrade my phone so I wanted to go back to a stock state to potentially sell it. The big guide thread in the general forum linked to SUTL-44 so that's what I imaged. I know 49 is unlockable, but if I'm not going to keep the phone I didn't think it was worth my while to make sure this pending OTA was 49, or something else. Basically, not worth the risk of screwing things up taking an OTA without researching first, and not worth the time to research if I didn't plan to keep the phone.
And somewhere we're not communicating. It's worth MORE money unlocked to people who know. And SUTL-49 seems like the last update it will ever receive anyway.
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Reading comprehension failure on my part! Maybe it's worth more, but is it $25 more? No need to spend $$ on sunshine if the net result is close. Also who knows what the impact of Pixel phones will have on the value of our phones?

Motorola Nexus 6 October 2017 frp 7.1.1?

Is there a bypass method using dirtycow exploit for Nexus (6) running October 2017 patch? I obtained this device last month for cheap from a friend who found it online and ran into the frp problem. Long story short, they gave up and sold me the phone. I've been looking all over and the closest thing I've found to a bypass for the Nexus 6 on 7.1.1 October patch is a a method for the Nexus 6p. Which did not work. I have managed to use a variety of apps to be able to semi use the phone. Then after a while it would bootloop and force me to reset everything and start over. Then eventually it wouldn't turn on directly, just turn on into the bootloader first where I could decide to turn it on from the start option. I've been having trouble because I can't seem to use fastboot or adb with the device. I can see it in adb but permission is denied for every command I've tried. Dirtycow seemed to make it furthest out of anything and :fingers-crossed: the apps I've been using are as follows.
Pixel launcher
Pie Controls
Glovebox
Es file manager
Es app killer
If someone can give me a working method I am willing to donate. :highfive: I'm not a newbe to the Android lingo, just catching the hang of the no-chill, always evolving software and trying to keep up. And if there is a possible way to flash back to ICS I'll be so greatful. :fingers-crossed:

Alixbot said:
Is there a bypass method using dirtycow exploit for Nexus (6) running October 2017 patch?
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Nope. In fact, there haven't been any working bypass methods in months.That said, I think there's more issues with your device than FRP. You might want to get the device checked out.

Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
Nope. In fact, there haven't been any working bypass methods in months.That said, I think there's more issues with your device than FRP. You might want to get the device checked out.
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Has anyone figured this out yet?
http://forum.gsmhosting.com/vbb/f1014/nexus-6-frp-last-security-n6f27m-impossible-answered-2350585/
someone here said dirtycow may help.

If it had been figured out, it's unlikely the person who did would keep it to themselves.

I can unlock Nexus 6 Supports all patches in 10minutes

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I can unlock Nexus 6 Supports all patches in 10minutes
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You have people other than yourself who can attest to it working? Do you have a video demonstrating the unlock process? Unless you have either or both of those things then AFAIK it's just another scam.

Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
You have people other than yourself who can attest to it working? Do you have a video demonstrating the unlock process? Unless you have either or both of those things then AFAIK it's just another scam.
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Dear Sir,
i dont have video to demo, but i wont lie here in this trusted forum. solution is long waited & also its my own method.
I can unlock till October patch.
Who wants unlock contact i am ready to prove...

ashamsu said:
Dear Sir,
i dont have video to demo, but i wont lie here in this trusted forum. solution is long waited & also its my own method.
I can unlock till October patch.
Who wants unlock contact i am ready to prove...
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Others have lied here in this "trusted forum", so it's prudent to be cautious. So anyone taking him up on his offer, please chime in with details.

Interesting S5 boot screen

I have some AT&T S5's that I have acquired and they seem to have a custom firmware of some kind. Possibly an unlocked bootloader? Just curious as to what I have. I have included a picture of the boot screen.

The bootloader's are unlocked!!!!!! I managed to flash twrp on it and it is working properly!
I noticed it says Modeeveloper under the download mode. Maybe there's a way to figure how these are unlocked.

I have about 40 of these. Devs pm me if interested.

I know somebody with the same problem, started the other day. BS the bootloader is unlocked.. Whatever it is, it has hijacked the phone to the point that it freezes on the boot animation and loops. Tell me, how do you come into 40+ devices with this issue and why are you trying to offload them as if they're something special?

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I have about 40 of these. Devs pm me if interested.
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Don't know if you got my PM or not but I'm interested in getting my hands on one or two of those devices... I think there's a lead here that can finally free our phones. Lemme know asap if you can get some of these devices to me.

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I have about 40 of these. Devs pm me if interested.
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Is there some kind of issue with your notification system for PMs? I sent one a couple days ago and never heard back

Dork6243 said:
I know somebody with the same problem, started the other day. BS the bootloader is unlocked.. Whatever it is, it has hijacked the phone to the point that it freezes on the boot animation and loops. Tell me, how do you come into 40+ devices with this issue and why are you trying to offload them as if they're something special?
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The phones function perfectly, got them from a company that does network testing.

Bluemgt06 said:
The phones function perfectly, got them from a company that does network testing.
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If its from the network testing firm I think it is, this may be a very welcome development. I have a hunch regarding the software on these devices.

Bluemgt06 said:
The phones function perfectly, got them from a company that does network testing.
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I have just PMed you some important instructions regarding the firmware on those devices. Just letting you know through here since I think you have email notifications for PMs turned off or something
Cheers!

@Bluemgt06 I kinda really need that firmware dump

same screen
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I have some AT&T S5's that I have acquired and they seem to have a custom firmware of some kind. Possibly an unlocked bootloader? Just curious as to what I have. I have included a picture of the boot screen.
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i have the same screen but in my case it is because the bootloader is corrupted and the phone has lost imei / baseband unknown