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Front and rear camera?

Will the one have a feature like the lg and samsung where it can use both cameras at the same time?

jspsuperman said:
Will the one have a feature like the lg and samsung where it can use both cameras at the same time?
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Not that's been highlighted in the reviews at this moment. I doubt this will be something available when the device launches, but we can be hopeful that HTC will add this feature. I doubt it will happen, but it's good to be hopeful.

eXplicit815 said:
Not that's been highlighted in the reviews at this moment. I doubt this will be something available when the device launches, but we can be hopeful that HTC will add this feature. I doubt it will happen, but it's good to be hopeful.
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I know nothing about coding, but i would think it should be capable right?

jspsuperman said:
I know nothing about coding, but i would think it should be capable right?
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I'm sure it's capable, but there's the interest of doing it that the developers need to have before something like this takes flight. If you could find a developer that is interested in making it happen, then it could be possible. But to be honest, it's really too early in the game to start worrying about it. Still need to start with S-OFF, rooting, custom recovery, ROMs, kernels, etc. If any developer on here could chime in and give their input???

Why on earth would one want to use both cameras simultaneously? I'm not sure there would be a real world use for this. Can anyone think of any?

jkt97401 said:
Why on earth would one want to use both cameras simultaneously? I'm not sure there would be a real world use for this. Can anyone think of any?
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My sentiments exactly, that's more of a novelty feature than it is useful. It's just something for the manufacturer to day the can do out. Just like 3D cameras and dual screens it's a novelty. In glad sprint decided top keep the phone as it was designed. All I hope for is for HTC to do a better job of realising sources on a timely matter an a quick upgrade to 4.2.2
something clever goes here...

jkt97401 said:
Why on earth would one want to use both cameras simultaneously? I'm not sure there would be a real world use for this. Can anyone think of any?
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Why not? Say im in a really cool place and i want 2 send u a pic like a postcard. It would b cool 2 take dual pics or video 2 share. I dnt think its a novelty at all. I actually like that idea and would actually find it useful unlike a stupid 3d camera

jspsuperman said:
Why not? Say im in a really cool place and i want 2 send u a pic like a postcard. It would b cool 2 take dual pics or video 2 share. I dnt think its a novelty at all. I actually like that idea and would actually find it useful unlike a stupid 3d camera
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Seems like a hassle more than anything. It would just mean you have to line up a shot on you and on the other person at the same time. It's something I'd never use. Now, the EVO 3D. I loved using that camera. Good thing my wife still has my old one.

eXplicit815 said:
Seems like a hassle more than anything. It would just mean you have to line up a shot on you and on the other person at the same time. It's something I'd never use. Now, the EVO 3D. I loved using that camera. Good thing my wife still has my old one.
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But you are already lined up holding the phone 2 take the picture? I think its more awesome than you think

jspsuperman said:
But you are already lined up holding the phone 2 take the picture? I think its more awesome than you think
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Whatever floats your boat.

I'm sure some app developer will create an app that mimics Samsung's functionality. It just seems like a farfetched idea so no one has thought of or even undertaken the development of such an app yet.
Keep your eyes on the play store and the forums, I'm sure one will pop up soon (If not already).

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I'm sure some app developer will create an app that mimics Samsung's functionality. It just seems like a farfetched idea so no one has thought of or even undertaken the development of such an app yet.
Keep your eyes on the play store and the forums, I'm sure one will pop up soon (If not already).
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Not to mention, only a handful of people have the devices. I don't think any of the Sprint models are even in developers hands.

Perhaps a quick photosphere?
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Gear Manager Flash or mod

After having the Gear Manager update and trash my watch again it had me thinking about not just the watch but the actual phone controller, I started wondering if anyone had thought about modifying the Manager? could do some interesting things perhaps?

NZ_Nitro said:
After having the Gear Manager update and trash my watch again it had me thinking about not just the watch but the actual phone controller, I started wondering if anyone had thought about modifying the Manager? could do some interesting things perhaps?
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Wouldnt be too hard to prevent it wiping, although maintaining with the updates would be a nightmare.

fOmey said:
Wouldnt be too hard to prevent it wiping, although maintaining with the updates would be a nightmare.
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Yeah Samsung is tying the whole thing up for some reason? but I will gaurantee they will be watching this site and any developments made..... hmm like say...... Null .

NZ_Nitro said:
Yeah Samsung is tying the whole thing up for some reason? but I will gaurantee they will be watching this site and any developments made..... hmm like say...... Null .
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The problem is if the user isnt using my rom, I dont know if it will repair.. the stock bluetooth settings are very limited as I'm sure your aware.
It wipes so the hand shake between the gear and the phone is remade I believe.
I think thats why Samsung wipes upon gear manager updates, also the gear is intended to be connected to one phone & one phone only.

fOmey said:
The problem is if the user isnt using my rom, I dont know if it will repair.. the stock bluetooth settings are very limited as I'm sure your aware.
It wipes so the hand shake between the gear and the phone is remade I believe.
I think thats why Samsung wipes upon gear manager updates, also the gear is intended to be connected to one phone & one phone only.
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One thing I did until about 3am last night was install all the developer software including Cygwin and had a play..... have I got the time to develop my skills in this area? well no and I am starting to realize this lol but if I decide to in a crazy moment ......
I also have come to the conclusion a smart watch is just that, I will never surf the net on my watch when I have a very good S4 to do that, I will be watching what develops next year and hope there will be an S5 and a Gear 2 bundle :cyclops:
No doubt when I go back to the Pilbara next year I will be stuck out onsite when they are released, I see comments out in the wild about what people expect from their smart watch like not needing to be tethered or to have WIFI but all this means there will be an increase in size or shorter battery time, the camera even is a little limited and I dont use it much as you get strange looks, out Glasshouse mountians couple of weeks ago and it sure looked like I was Creepin lol but I wasnt of course

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out Glasshouse mountians couple of weeks ago and it sure looked like I was Creepin lol but I wasnt of course
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Try going around with google glass and winking at stuff...
I think the one watch one phone thing is key to decision to wipe. But also when you update gear manager, it removes apps on phone and then reinstalls

Brendo said:
Try going around with google glass and winking at stuff...
I think the one watch one phone thing is key to decision to wipe. But also when you update gear manager, it removes apps on phone and then reinstalls
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Once I fully set it up this time im going to do a full backup

NZ_Nitro said:
Once I fully set it up this time im going to do a full backup
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Yes definitely recommend it. Sucks going through the whole small menus and what not
Back on modding apk. It's a pain. It doesn't really recompile properly (neither main apk or sub apk)

DO you heard about Tizen-Update?

Hello friends,
i have read about the Tizen-Update , which will be update our "gears" and i am not sure which good aspect it will bring us ?
1.Does it easier to develop apps ?
2.What happens if android is over re written on that, will the awesome rom NULL in vain ?
3.Do you think that the new rom will be better in general ?
THANKS FOR reading and answering.
Creasqui

creasqui said:
Hello friends,
i have read about the Tizen-Update , which will be update our "gears" and i am not sure which good aspect it will bring us ?
1.Does it easier to develop apps ?
2.What happens if android is over re written on that, will the awesome rom NULL in vain ?
3.Do you think that the new rom will be better in general ?
THANKS FOR reading and answering.
Creasqui
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1) Maybe.
2) Maybe.
3) Maybe.
To early to tell my friend.

Is it confirmed dthat the gear 1 is grtting tizen?
I just want a SDK for it but thiking since gear 2 will be tizen better chance of getting SDK if on same os.

steelthunder100 said:
Is it confirmed dthat the gear 1 is grtting tizen?
I just want a SDK for it but thiking since gear 2 will be tizen better chance of getting SDK if on same os.
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Reading this http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-13970_7-57619476-78/samsungs-gear-fit-doesnt-run-android-or-tizen/
I really don't think so. Why would they? It would hurt the sales of the new devices.

raiu said:
Reading this http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-13970_7-57619476-78/samsungs-gear-fit-doesnt-run-android-or-tizen/
I really don't think so. Why would they? It would hurt the sales of the new devices.
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There are lots of current models on store shelves. They might sell a few more if buyers knew about an update, especially if it delivers longer battery life.

I don't think so.

if you can shoehorn in the Null Rom now on the hardware you should be able to do it even if Samsung rolls out Tizen. If it works on the hardware now it will work on the hardware later.
My question is, can we get Android on the Gear 2 or Gear Neo?

raiu said:
Reading this http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-13970_7-57619476-78/samsungs-gear-fit-doesnt-run-android-or-tizen/
I really don't think so. Why would they? It would hurt the sales of the new devices.
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This article does imply that galaxy gear will remain a separate, isolated, product.
I'm guessing if a Tizen update is offered, it will be well after the gear2 is released. And apps that utilize the heart rate sensor or remote control of the newer gears, will need to be modified, or filtered out for the gg.
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@raiu
I think because it is not even older as 5 month of the release ? And Samsung often supports the products until 2 years it think.
the accu will be improved, so it is better i dont like to charge my gear ever 3-4 day :/
http://www.techstage.de/news/Samsung-Galaxy-Gear-bekommt-Tizen-Gear-2-ein-SDK-2124764.html

Gear 2 now that Android wear is out.... #failboat

So I bought a Neo and played around with it on my work Note 3. It has fair amount of apps. Well today I bought a S5 Active. I moved my Neo over to it (requires reseting it.) and got gear manager installed. Surprise to me... It seems even though things like the clock face is an app that runs on the phone if the developer doesn't select that it works with a phone you can't use it. Which should be a simple change for most things however it doesn't seem that developers update their Samsung store apps. For the S5 active there are only a handful of apps even though I am sure 99% all the apps would work if the dev would click the "it works with an s5 active"
After dealing with Samsung support (or the lack of it) I tried to get on the Samsung app store webpage. It seems they are having server errors so it was been working like crap. I was kind of able to get contacts for a couple of the app dev's to ask that they update their app to work with the S5 active. Samsung app store doesn't provide contact information unless the dev adds it. One of the devs linked to his google+ page. Which showed he is working to get the same app with improvements to work on android wear.
This got me thinking. Who is going to mess with this crappy half baked Samsung store with Google coming out with Wear? I'd guess we won't see anyone making new Apps for the tizen watches, they don't even update it to work with new phones it will run on with no changes...
I just got the Neo and I am on the fence of returning it. I figured I could get by with apps I had on the Note 3 until someone got a Wear rom for it. With the lack of apps when paired with the s5 I am not impressed at all and after my research today I am liking it less. I got it over the wear because it was only 150bucks vs 225, it has a speaker and IR blaster and Android wear is lacking in features (sure to change in 6 months to a year). I figured by the time wear got up to speed there would be a rom. Thinking about it some I am doubtful, I think the speaker and IR blaster (camera if it is a gear 2) will prevent it from ever happening. None of the wear watches have these so I'd guess there isn't low level support.
I guess I need to return it and wait for the 360 come out.

I had the same problem with my active. I modified the build prop to identify my device as a regular s5 and have all the apps again.

Root required?
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WiFivomFranMan said:
Root required?
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yeah

lordmorphous said:
yeah
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What did you use as your spoofed device?

WiFivomFranMan said:
What did you use as your spoofed device?
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I changed the ro.product.model line from SM-G870A to SM-G900A

I'm definitely going to sell my Neo and wait for the Moto360. I like the Neo fine, but am getting sick to death of having to run stock based ROMs. I will miss some features of the G2, but damn that 360 looks beautiful and development should be great

slaydog said:
I'm definitely going to sell my Neo and wait for the Moto360. I like the Neo fine, but am getting sick to death of having to run stock based ROMs. I will miss some features of the G2, but damn that 360 looks beautiful and development should be great
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I sold my Gear 2 and got the Gear Live. What a huge mistake. I didn't realize how much I missed my Gear 2. Luckily I found someone to trade my gear live for the Gear 2. The card system on Android Wear is terrible.

lordmorphous said:
I changed the ro.product.model line from SM-G870A to SM-G900A
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when you state you are rooted...do you mean the Neo or the phone? And could you please explain how you did this? I understand how to change my build prop but as stated is it the phone or watch?

treezy26 said:
when you state you are rooted...do you mean the Neo or the phone? And could you please explain how you did this? I understand how to change my build prop but as stated is it the phone or watch?
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Phone is rooted, not the watch. I rooted by using towelroot. Look in the particular forum for your phone for instruction, I don't want to give bad advice.

I understand how to root. My question now is, will this work with any phone?
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yopiggy said:
I sold my Gear 2 and got the Gear Live. What a huge mistake. I didn't realize how much I missed my Gear 2. Luckily I found someone to trade my gear live for the Gear 2. The card system on Android Wear is terrible.
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Haha lucky me i kept my my original GG my Neo and also have the Live... Yup the live is super boring compared to the GG or Neo
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Nougat

Nougat coming in the next few months...?
http://www.droid-life.com/2016/09/27/moto-z-moto-g4-nougat-update-release-date-q4/

Sounds good to me! I'm on DL every day, but man there are some haters in the comments lol. It's like Motorola/Lenovo killed their firstborn or something.

blynkofaneye said:
Sounds good to me! I'm on DL every day, but man there are some haters in the comments lol. It's like Motorola/Lenovo killed their firstborn or something.
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I've always been of the mind that people are more likely to post to complain than otherwise. You rarely see, "hey, this is great!" .. I think it is often assumed that posting those kinds of comments add nothing to the discussion, so people don't do it...
Respond if you agree

TheKaz said:
I've always been of the mind that people are more likely to post to complain than otherwise. You rarely see, "hey, this is great!" .. I think it is often assumed that posting those kinds of comments add nothing to the discussion, so people don't do it...
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Agreed. I see what you did there.

If it turns out to be true and even if they they just push it to those who oped in for soak test and whatnot and not a full out release in the next few weeks i am happy with Lenovo and this phone. I love what Lenovo did with the phone. I said updates will make or break it and i was scared about that when they said they could not commit to the security patches. But were getting those patches and have a word on the update so far so good. Hope they keep it up. This is the best phone out all around.

I'll still believe it when I see it. Moto has really been sucking badly on updates the last few years.
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JasonJoel said:
I'll still believe it when I see it. Moto has really been sucking badly on updates the last few years.
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But the last few months they've been excelling!
All I know, as a Samsung fanboy in the past... I couldn't be happier that I chose to change to the Z Force... besides not bursting into flames in my pocket... the battery life puts EVERY Samsung I ever had to shame.

beejmeister said:
But the last few months they've been excelling!
All I know, as a Samsung fanboy in the past... I couldn't be happier that I chose to change to the Z Force... besides not bursting into flames in my pocket... the battery life puts EVERY Samsung I ever had to shame.
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I agree 100% the funny part is I decided I needed a non samsung device as soon as I saw that lil wayne commercial that had him dumping champagne on the phone. I told coworkers that wanted the Note 7 prior to the release to get this phone instead because Samsung spent far too much for lil wayne for proper research and development, they all made fun of me...until the note started exploding.

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I agree 100% the funny part is I decided I needed a non samsung device as soon as I saw that lil wayne commercial that had him dumping champagne on the phone. I told coworkers that wanted the Note 7 prior to the release to get this phone instead because Samsung spent far too much for lil wayne for proper research and development, they all made fun of me...until the note started exploding.
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Off topic but the issue is simple with the Note 7. I checked this my self. But its not cheap for them and the "Fixed" ones were not fixed and there was no way for them to fix it.
Simple version. The IC samsung chosen to handle the monitoring of the voltage for the battery was the cheapest they could find. That being said they can be way off in terms of calibration. The note 7 i had charged my battery to 4.9v. Phone would read 4.405v but a fluke on the batt reads 4.921v. And that is dangerous. So for all i know they could be charging to 5+ volts and no wounder they are bursting into flames. Issue has nothing to do with the battery and changing it wont do a thing. Its an issue with the ic on the board. And the IC has been used in other things that handle li-ion and li-po related charging and also caused problems on them.
Back on topic.
So we get 7.0 before the end of the year. Im guessing November. So far so good on the updates. But im wondering if they are going 7.0 or just going to jump to 7.1. Chances are no 7.1 that fast but so far the updates have been good. And the moto mod updates have been amazing. I would like to see 7.0 by Nov. 17th. But we prob wont see the roll out start until the end of Nov.

Does anyone know if Nougat will return the ability to save to SD or move apps to external sd?
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dtowngs4g said:
Does anyone know if Nougat will return the ability to save to SD or move apps to external sd?
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It will not. Motorola has removed the Apps 2 SD feature. It was replaced by Adoptable Storage.
https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/answers/prod_answer_detail/a_id/109134/p/1449,9582
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Just finished installing the Nougat update on my phone. After updating I tested it out in a Daydream VR and it works!

I wish someone would post the update files

Uuuurgh I wish there was a way to force it. I've been obsessively checking for software updates all day :|

bagheadinc said:
Just finished installing the Nougat update on my phone. After updating I tested it out in a Daydream VR and it works!
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Yes yes yes yes yes. Got rid of my Gear VR and S7 Edge for a PSVR and have been waiting for a good headset for my Z Droid. So it works with the remote and what not?

mcp2009 said:
So it works with the remote and what not?
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Yup, works exactly like it does on the Pixel. It runs the Daydream app, supports the VR keyboard, etc.

bagheadinc said:
Yup, works exactly like it does on the Pixel. It runs the Daydream app, supports the VR keyboard, etc.
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Did you sign up for soak test?

TigerCourage said:
Did you sign up for soak test?
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Not that I'm aware of. I've done plenty of soak tests for previous Moto devices and I got invites for soak tests for the camera and projector (which I don't have either), but I never got one for the phone. The update just popped up for me last night.
So far the only Nougat issues I'm having is the fact that my Ambient Moto Display no longer works. Slightly annoying, but it could be worse.

bagheadinc said:
Not that I'm aware of. I've done plenty of soak tests for previous Moto devices and I got invites for soak tests for the camera and projector (which I don't have either), but I never got one for the phone. The update just popped up for me last night.
So far the only Nougat issues I'm having is the fact that my Ambient Display no longer works. Slightly annoying, but it could be worse.
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Great that means it's a general release!
Do a hard reset, it's always recommended to do a hard reset after a major update for optimal performance and user experience.

Strike my last statement. I just got it working. I need up just clearing the data for the Moto app and set it up again. Moto Display seems to work perfectly fine now.