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Buying a spare nexus

hey guys!
I'm a looong time lurker here, but now I thought I'll ask for advice
Now that google is phasing out the nexus, is it a good idea to buy a spare? I totally love mine, and am not a big gamer.I just love to tinker
Thanks!

The person who can answer that the best is you really. Unless you planned on using the nexus one for the next 2 yrs or so, I don't think it's a good idea. There'd be so much better phone by year's end or next year.

Hi!
I was a bit vague on my reasons The Nexus is my first Android phone (didn't want an iphone for obvious reasons - closed...), but used numerous winmo smartphones before. I decided on the N1 due to its "openness" (easyly unlockable bootloader, plethora of CMs...)
As I said, gaming is not high on mylist, so 3d performance and the touchscreen issues are not a bother for me. However, in terms of raw power the N1 one is still a lively beast with a dedicated dev scene.
So, to sum up: the N1 does everything for me. What worries me is that today's phones are not built for longevity, and now that the N1's availability is in question (I'm in CEE), I'm thinking of buying another one just to be safe. Or am I just paranoid to think my Nexus won't last 1.5 years??

Phasing out the Nexus? Just because they are no longer selling them on their store does not mean, to me, that they are phasing it out. They are planning to sell them directly through retail outlets.
Anyway, I don't see a value in having a spare. They are easy enough to get.

I will sell u mine
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Won't it be harder to get later? I saw a price hike after the announcement was made - by the retail shops here in Hungary that is...

I wouldn't bother. Within the next 6-12 months there will be a better phone around. Instead of sitting on a phone, get some hookers and coke.

@JCopernicus, been there, done that I think it all boils down to when a new dev phone will arrive ( if ever) from google

wil there be any nexus or something new from google?

JCopernicus said:
get some hookers and coke.
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I prefer Pepsi

boardlord said:
hey guys!
I'm a looong time lurker here, but now I thought I'll ask for advice
Now that google is phasing out the nexus, is it a good idea to buy a spare? I totally love mine, and am not a big gamer.I just love to tinker
Thanks!
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Are you NUTS?!
Even after Google "discontinues" selling the N1 you will still be able to purchase the N1 for an extra $25 by just creating a developer account...
If you really want to throw away $529 I'll be happy to give you my paypal donation account info

ap3604 said:
Are you NUTS?!
Even after Google "discontinues" selling the N1 you will still be able to purchase the N1 for an extra $25 by just creating a developer account...
If you really want to throw away $529 I'll be happy to give you my paypal donation account info
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as I said unfortunately I live in Hungary, so I cannot buy it from google as my country is not deemed a market large enough to sell it online
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Nexus One Prices

So, now that the Nexus One is sold out of the Google store, do you think prices for very lightly used Nexus Ones on eBay will go up or down soon? Today I saw a new one sell for $560, while I see online retailers and Buy-it-nows for like $650. I just now saw a used Nexus One sell for $376 in the auction, and used ones I have seen are in the high-300s and 400s (although sometimes not all the original accessories are included). So I was thinking, the prices could go up because there is a higher demand for a limited supply of great phones, while also there may be a decrease in demand for a phone that could have a loss of support in the future. But I am basically wondering, how much different do you think the prices in the near future (maybe 1 month or so) on eBay will be than they are now?

Stevv said:
So, now that the Nexus One is sold out of the Google store, do you think prices for very lightly used Nexus Ones on eBay will go up or down soon? Today I saw a new one sell for $560, while I see online retailers and Buy-it-nows for like $650. I just now saw a used Nexus One sell for $376 in the auction, and used ones I have seen are in the high-300s and 400s (although sometimes not all the original accessories are included). So I was thinking, the prices could go up because there is a higher demand for a limited supply of great phones, while also there may be a decrease in demand for a phone that could have a loss of support in the future. But I am basically wondering, how much different do you think the prices in the near future (maybe 1 month or so) on eBay will be than they are now?
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It depend on what other choice people have, There's quite a few android phone coming out, in the mean time I guess some people who have the $$ will pay high price to get what they want

my advice is to not buy a Nexus One.
The nexus one is a great phone, totally worth the price and options and if you have your mind set on one, dont let anyone tell you different. However, its being a little outdone by recent phones. It doesn't make sense to buy a phone that is already being surpassed. Currently newer android phones like the Droid X or the Galaxy S line cost the same as the Nexus but have higher hardware.
My predictions for the price of the Nexus One are: Initially the price will go up, as with all technology, if something is hard to acquire the price will jump as it is valuable and you can milk the buyer. After some time the price will stabilize and begin to be less then the $530 initial price.

Yeah to tell you the truth I would rather have something like an Evo 4G or a Droid X, but those phones are locked to their respective carriers in the USA right? I live in Germany right now and will for about another year, and I would rather have a very unlocked phone like the Nexus One which I can buy from American eBay (or Google store before it closed) and ship it here to avoid paying in Euros.

The galaxy S is a very good phone from what I hear, there is also a International version of the phone.

I bought mine €427 all-in

my screen is now cracked on my nexus after a bad drop and I have been debating if i wanted to spend 530 on a new nexus for a couple weeks now.
ultimatly i couldn't convice myself to spend that much on a phone already outdated hardware wise even though the software support is first rate.
The samsung galaxy s is an awesome phone but the fact its shipping without froyo for now is a deal killer. After using froyo I can not go back to 2.1. Some people might say just buy it and wait for it to be released this fall, but there are some eye poping rumors about the HTC vision coming out.
Overall, the nexus was a GREAT phone, and without the crack I wouldnt be in the market for a new phone but spending 600+ for one doesnt make much sense now

The big bonus everyone forgets about the N1 is that its basically a dev phone.
Google pretty much wants us to tinker with it, stuff it full of roms and abuse it.
We also get alot more access to do to our phone what other carriers and makers are trying to block and stop.
Yes the hardware isnt the "newest" of the new but I would hardly call the phone outdated. Is my 2010 Fusion outdated because the 2011s are coming out? hardly. It isnt the newest on the block anymore but its still relevant and supported.
Also, I think that unless a phone comes to market with Gingerbread later this year the Nexus will probably be the first device to run this for a few months at least.
Lastly, look at the iPhone 4. I can show you a handful of reviews where even mac fans say the Nexus one closely matches that phone in performance and features and they only release one a yr. The nexus one wont be irrelevant until next summer.

I think that, until Google proves it can push an Android update to all phones simultaneously, there will always be a market for the Nexus 1.

[Q] Motorola or play store?

Hey guys, what is the difference in ordering from the play stor vs motorola ie shipping, warranty etc. Going to try and order Wednesday a 64gb white and would like to get different opinions. Thanks

Good luck. I would try direct from Motorola.
It is the very definition of insanity to sit on a computer and hit refresh hoping for a chance to have the privilege of sending a corporation large chunks of money. Google has been doing some type of social experiment just to see how insane people actually are. I fell prey to this insanity and wasted literally hours attempting to give them my money. Not again. If they begin normal sales I may purchase one but then again I am thinking no corporation who does this sort of thing actually deserves my money. I may look elsewhere. I pulled out an old Note 1 and realized what a great device it was so the Note 4 is looking more attractive to me, even though I like/liked the original concept of Nexus and have purchased every Nexus device that came out. But if I do get one it will be direct from Motorola.

That'll teach 'em. Google still gets your money.
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trickster2369 said:
That'll teach 'em. Google still gets your money.
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It is not about "teaching" anyone. It is about putting up with bulls***.

It's up to you, really. The warranty is exactly the same (It's Motorola's warranty in both cases). Google, historically, has been better about replacing defective/damaged units, but Moto has Moto Care, which is one of the cheapest accidental damage warranties out there. At this time, it doesn't look like you can buy Moto Care for a Play Store model, but that may change (and you can always get the slightly more expensive one from Fair Trade). Also, Moto's site is infinitely easier to order from right now, and they offer a payment plan, unlike Google. On the flip side, Moto charges you immediately, whereas Google only places a hold on your credit card, and doesn't actually charge you until the unit ships. Speaking of shipping, Moto ships via FedEx ground only, whereas Google offers UPS Ground, 2nd Day, and Next Day shipping options.
Pros and Cons either way. I chose Google, because of my past experiences with their replacement policies, but many people swear by Moto, so I think you'll be happy either way.

jt3 said:
It's up to you, really. The warranty is exactly the same (It's Motorola's warranty in both cases). Google, historically, has been better about replacing defective/damaged units, but Moto has Moto Care, which is one of the cheapest accidental damage warranties out there. At this time, it doesn't look like you can buy Moto Care for a Play Store model, but that may change (and you can always get the slightly more expensive one from Fair Trade). Also, Moto's site is infinitely easier to order from right now, and they offer a payment plan, unlike Google. On the flip side, Moto charges you immediately, whereas Google only places a hold on your credit card, and doesn't actually charge you until the unit ships. Speaking of shipping, Moto ships via FedEx ground only, whereas Google offers UPS Ground, 2nd Day, and Next Day shipping options.
Pros and Cons either way. I chose Google, because of my past experiences with their replacement policies, but many people swear by Moto, so I think you'll be happy either way.
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Ok that's what I wanted to know, thank you.

Can't will just buy insurance through the carriers? Verizon, Sprint, etc

Evidently no MotoCare for Nexus 6
https://forums.motorola.com/posts/1b06206026
In the motorola forums they said that they will not be offering Moto Care for the Nexus 6.

bsteiner36 said:
https://forums.motorola.com/posts/1b06206026
In the motorola forums they said that they will not be offering Moto Care for the Nexus 6.
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That's also been refuted several times by Moto reps, including specific pricing ($85 for 2 years). At this point, it's really a guessing game, since no REAL information will come out until the Nexus 6 is actually launched. With Moto, if you didn't/can't order the extended coverage at purchase time, you can call with the device information once you receive it. We'll know for sure once people receive their devices and attempt to add coverage.

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That's also been refuted several times by Moto reps, including specific pricing ($85 for 2 years). At this point, it's really a guessing game, since no REAL information will come out until the Nexus 6 is actually launched. With Moto, if you didn't/can't order the extended coverage at purchase time, you can call with the device information once you receive it. We'll know for sure once people receive their devices and attempt to add coverage.
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Also just found this, sorry if re post, make sure and read the entire feed. At first glance it gives you the impression that moto care will not be offered, then it goes on to say it is not offered right now, but will be.
https://twitter.com/MotorolaSupport/status/531497697937985537

chrisg1548 said:
Hey guys, what is the difference in ordering from the play stor vs motorola ie shipping, warranty etc. Going to try and order Wednesday a 64gb white and would like to get different opinions. Thanks
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From my personal experience I would order from the Google Play Store. Their customer support is amazing (surprisingly) and they gave me a replacement Nexus 5 at no charge because I had set a dumbell on my screen and it smeared everywhere. It was rooted/ unlocked and they could've cared less.
I've been lurking on the n6 forum because I want one but they are hard to comeby at the moment, and I am waiting to see what ATT does with theirs, if they will have ATT bloatware and so on.

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From my personal experience I would order from the Google Play Store. Their customer support is amazing (surprisingly) and they gave me a replacement Nexus 5 at no charge because I had set a dumbell on my screen and it smeared everywhere. It was rooted/ unlocked and they could've cared less.
I've been lurking on the n6 forum because I want one but they are hard to comeby at the moment, and I am waiting to see what ATT does with theirs, if they will have ATT bloatware and so on.
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Thanks for the advice, as far as I know all models from the carriers shouldn't have bloat ware, not 100% sure.

Isn't it cheaper to order through Motorola? Free shipping and people are reporting the tax is cheaper too.

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AT&T Nexus cost more??

**Warning** Kind of a long read but I'm curious to other peoples thoughts.
Wanted to share my experience today. I went into a Corporate AT&T store planning on upgrading to a 32GB MB Nexus 6 on the Next program. I'm good with it being carrier locked and I'll just remove the AT&T bloatware. I was excited that they had them in stock, however I noticed that the retail price was for $682.99 instead of $649 like Google has it for. I asked the rep and he was surprised and looked it up. I told him that other carriers were selling it for $649 also, and he verified it but couldn't explain it and mentioned that they can't match it either. I asked why do I want to pay like $30 more for it to be carrier locked and have bloatware installed (okay with it but not gonna pay for it).
At home, I called 611 to see if they would match it and see if they knew why. The first rep basically said that was the way it was and didn't really seem interested. The second time I called (I know now maybe I'm crazy but didn't think its right), I asked for their loyalty department cause I know they have more power. The guy there said he was being told that its not ATT but the Manufacture that is dictating the price. I told him that Motorola has it for $649 on their website and it doesn't make sense that they are letting everyone else sell it for one price and making AT&T sell it higher. Told them that I may change carriers if AT&T thinks that its good business practice to charge more then everyone else.
I want to point out that:
1. I was never rude or demanded anything. Just told them that I hope it gets pushed up and corrected.
2. Realize that this is a first world problem and I could just go purchase it from Google or somewhere else but I feel its the principle. Its not right to charge like $30 more and add to the fact that I would have paid higher taxes.
3. They still ended up not matching the price but did offer me a $50 discount off the contract price but told them I didn't want a contract.

The extra cost is for the high quality paint used for the death star logo on the back. (The one that comes off if you stare at it hard enough.)
Actually, I didn't mind the extra 30 for one simple reason: it didn't require waiting 6 to 20 weeks for moto to get stock and ship.
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Ha on the paint. I'm still torn. Almost talked myself into going back and just pay for it.

You know what? I just bought a Nexus 6 from AT&T web ordering and I knew it was $30 more than everyone else, but you know what?! AT&T has them in stock and nobody else does!! Get over it. If you don't like it wait until Google has them on their site and then wait some more until they really have it and can send it to you! I had no problem getting mine from AT&T and I really didn't care that it has their logo on it!

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Ha on the paint. I'm still torn. Almost talked myself into going back and just pay for it.
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Do you going to leave a service because they charge 30 bucks for a device no one got in stock? Sound like a great business strategy for me... They know they can provide it today while others can in weeks. I will advice you go back

Appreciate the feed back. I realize that's it only like 30 bucks but there is also the added cost of paying taxes on 682 instead of 649. Not outrageous but still there. I doubt they are charging higher because they know they have them in stock. Especially when they are late to the game. They had to send their initial batch back. I wonder if this is fair to be who don't realize they are paying more. I noticed the price difference and accept the added cost, I'm okay with it but it's not fair to an unsuspecting customer.

Complain about it on at&t's Facebook page. The first person that contacts you probably won't be alot of help. They will eventually have someone else contact you. This person can help you. They gave me a $100 bill credit. I could have paid the balance of $582.99 plus tax but I chose to do the next 12 plan. So I paid $682.99 in order to do next and the $100 came off my monthly bill.

Well to update. I ended up going back and getting it. Really wanted to check it out and decided it was worth to walk out with it now. I hope its corrected still though. Now to run it through its paces before the 14 days are up. Like it so far. It is my first nexus device.

Mine was 249.99 with the 2 year contract.

$249.99 + $25 per month extra for 24 months = $849.99 + tax and upgrade / activation fees.

Best buy has the at&t n6 for 649 but the sprint n6 is 699 dosent make sense
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That's interesting, on Sprints website its 648.

Was at the T-MOBILE store when...

I was at the T-MOBILE store today in NY inquiring about the S7 edge when a gentle walked in and asked if they were still selling the note 7. To my surprise the employee said yes. She did tell him to not let it charge past 60% and if it feels like it's over heating that he can bring it in and exchange if for another phone.
I wanted to get the note 7 but amid this disaster regarding the second recall I thought it was irresponsible for T-Mobile to sell any more of them. Have we been so brainwashed by the media that the battery exploding is only happening to a small percentage of the note 7 out in the wild. When he asked and she said yes, I'll admit I was tempted to see if I could be one of the lucky ones to get a non defective note 7 bit then i came back to reality and said the headache is not worth the reward.
What gives T-MOBILE and why don't you have the damn pixel in your store? You know sometimes I wonder! It would've been a perfect landing spot regardless of what happened to the note 7!

saco274 said:
I was at the T-MOBILE store today in NY inquiring about the S7 edge when a gentle walked in and asked if they were still selling the note 7. To my surprise the employee said yes. She did tell him to not let it charge past 60% and if it feels like it's over heating that he can bring it in and exchange if for another phone.
I wanted to get the note 7 but amid this disaster regarding the second recall I thought it was irresponsible for T-Mobile to sell any more of them. Have we been so brainwashed by the media that the battery exploding is only happening to a small percentage of the note 7 out in the wild. When he asked and she said yes, I'll admit I was tempted to see if I could be one of the lucky ones to get a non defective note 7 bit then i came back to reality and said the headache is not worth the reward.
What gives T-MOBILE and why don't you have the damn pixel in your store? You know sometimes I wonder! It would've been a perfect landing spot regardless of what happened to the note 7!
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That T-Mobile employee was probably just an overworked, underpaid, and uninformed sales clerk. He/she could care less if you got a Note 7 or not.
The Pixel is a Verizon "exclusive". That's how the carrier system works in the US and it sucks. The rest of the world has electronic stores like Best Buy or OEM stores like Apple/Samsung/Microsoft where you can get your phones without dealing with carriers. You just buy a SIM of whichever carrier you want and pop a sim in, or you go into a carrier store to get your line, and they have no way to dictate to you what phones you can use.

Your probably right about there clerk but I hope the person who wanted is aware of what's happening, how could he not be. Also, I know I can take a Google purchased pixel and use it at T-MOBILE but it just seemed like the logical carrier that it should be on given how rapidly TMo has grow in the last few years. So would tmo sell the now 7 if someone wanted it? Would there be support for it?
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This ^&%$$%^ sucks man. Really sucks. I love my Note 7 but at this point I now feel I no longer have a choice now but to return it. Just heard the news about the DOT that there is a full ban now. You can be jailed and even fined now for trying to travel with it

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That T-Mobile employee was probably just an overworked, underpaid, and uninformed sales clerk. He/she could care less if you got a Note 7 or not.
The Pixel is a Verizon "exclusive". That's how the carrier system works in the US and it sucks. The rest of the world has electronic stores like Best Buy or OEM stores like Apple/Samsung/Microsoft where you can get your phones without dealing with carriers. You just buy a SIM of whichever carrier you want and pop a sim in, or you go into a carrier store to get your line, and they have no way to dictate to you what phones you can use.
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The pixel appears to be a tesla exclusive in Australia. Also you can buy unlocked phones at Best buy stateside. Or Amazon, or eBay, or expansys usa, the list goes on.
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saco274 said:
Your probably right about there clerk but I hope the person who wanted is aware of what's happening, how could he not be. Also, I know I can take a Google purchased pixel and use it at T-MOBILE but it just seemed like the logical carrier that it should be on given how rapidly TMo has grow in the last few years. So would tmo sell the now 7 if someone wanted it? Would there be support for it?
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The note 7 isn't for sale, did you see the purchase from beginning to end?
That sales person seems like an idiot because the Note 7 has been a huge goat rope for every carrier, if they don't know by now they shouldn't be selling it they might need a new line of work.

I did not see the sale I was just listening. I don't know if it happened to be honest with you.
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saco274 said:
Your probably right about there clerk but I hope the person who wanted is aware of what's happening, how could he not be. Also, I know I can take a Google purchased pixel and use it at T-MOBILE but it just seemed like the logical carrier that it should be on given how rapidly TMo has grow in the last few years. So would tmo sell the now 7 if someone wanted it? Would there be support for it?
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I've only been on T-Mobile for a couple of months but I don't see any history of them carrying the Nexus phones.

douger1957 said:
I've only been on T-Mobile for a couple of months but I don't see any history of them carrying the Nexus phones.
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They carried the nexus 4. Also charged 150 more than the Google play store but you could pay on installments

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They carried the nexus 4. Also charged 150 more than the Google play store but you could pay on installments
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I read somewhere recently where the exclusive Verizon has to the Pixel may be short lived. I don't know that's because Google sees an opening with the Note 7 debacle to get their phone a broader customer base or whether that was part of the original agreement.
I'm keeping my Note 7 until at least the V20 comes out. It's the closest thing feature wise to the Note 7. I'd go Pixel in a New York minute if it had SD card capability.

Yeah I think I'm going with the V20. I just don't see the justification on spending $900 on the pixel right now. I'm going to wait for the 2nd pixel. Maybe TMo will cough up the loot to get it in there stores.
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I read somewhere recently where the exclusive Verizon has to the Pixel may be short lived. I don't know that's because Google sees an opening with the Note 7 debacle to get their phone a broader customer base or whether that was part of the original agreement.
I'm keeping my Note 7 until at least the V20 comes out. It's the closest thing feature wise to the Note 7. I'd go Pixel in a New York minute if it had SD card capability.
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Yeah im still pondering on the Pixel but the new name doesn't fool me. Never been super happy with Nexus batteries or cameras and every nexus phone had the best camera ever if you asked Google. Much like they are saying with the Pixel now.
Problem is unless you preorder you have to buy the 120 vr. I also need Wi-Fi calling at home :-/
I'd give up my card for a 128gb phone. I'm interested in the battery on the LG though.

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Yeah im still pondering on the Pixel but the new name doesn't fool me. Never been super happy with Nexus batteries or cameras and every nexus phone had the best camera ever if you asked Google. Much like they are saying with the Pixel now.
Problem is unless you preorder you have to buy the 120 vr. I also need Wi-Fi calling at home :-/
I'd give up my card for a 128gb phone. I'm interested in the battery on the LG though.
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I've got over 128 GB of music on that free 256 GB card that I got with the Note 7. With the V20 and it's supposed audio quality, I could load more .flac music up.
Then again, I could keep the S7 Edge they sent me as a loaner for the first recall. It shows as paid up on the T-Mobile website. It would work with the VR I claimed as part of that deal. Then again, I don't have the morals of an alley cat.

douger1957 said:
I read somewhere recently where the exclusive Verizon has to the Pixel may be short lived. I don't know that's because Google sees an opening with the Note 7 debacle to get their phone a broader customer base or whether that was part of the original agreement.
I'm keeping my Note 7 until at least the V20 comes out. It's the closest thing feature wise to the Note 7. I'd go Pixel in a New York minute if it had SD card capability.
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Might as well get an iPhone, they're doing the same thing: Charging too much (price) for too little (features). No way I'm buying that crap!

RaymondPJR said:
Might as well get an iPhone, they're doing the same thing: Charging too much (price) for too little (features). No way I'm buying that crap!
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Yeah man, I'm looking at what is offered and for that price I got so much more on the N7 and it's depressing. Also why the hell would you only offer 32 and 128gb.
The price makes it very hard to justify.