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For those of you that are using the Droid 3 on AT&T, how can I enable HSPA+ on my phone? I am using the XT883 radio with Hashcode's CM9. When scanning for networks, I only see AT&T 2G, AT&T 3G and T-Mobile 2G. When I use mobile data, the notification bar reads 3G. I am sure that the Droid 3 has the 850/1900 MHz bands required for AT&T's HSPA+. Is my phone showing 3G when I am actually getting HSPA+? If not, do I need to call AT&T and ask for HSPA+? I am buying a data plan for a flip phone, and using that SIM on my Droid 3, so they may have disabled it.
ChocolateShein said:
For those of you that are using the Droid 3 on AT&T, how can I enable HSPA+ on my phone? I am using the XT883 radio with Hashcode's CM9. When scanning for networks, I only see AT&T 2G, AT&T 3G and T-Mobile 2G. When I use mobile data, the notification bar reads 3G. I am sure that the Droid 3 has the 850/1900 MHz bands required for AT&T's HSPA+. Is my phone showing 3G when I am actually getting HSPA+? If not, do I need to call AT&T and ask for HSPA+? I am buying a data plan for a flip phone, and using that SIM on my Droid 3, so they may have disabled it.
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First off what are your download and uploads speeds on AT&T 3G? The D3 can support HSUPA 5.76 Mbit/s and HSDPA 14.4 Mbit/s. Download the speedtest app and confirm your speeds before calling AT&T regarding a non support device on their network.
I am getting 2413 Kbits/s downlink and 1589 Kbits/s uplink.
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Here is a screenshot of my results.
Have you confirmed that HSPA+ speeds are indeed active in your area?
There is nothing that you should have to do other than enter the APN settings. The same wap.Cingular APN is used for EDGE, UMTS, HSPA, etc...
I have achieved speeds up to about 8000 or so on the Droid 3 with XT883 radio, only in major areas with good service. Chances are your area or at least the tower you are connecting to does not have HSDPA active.
You are indeed getting HSPA speeds. 3G (UMTS) maxes at 384kbps. 3G/H/H+ reading in task bar is really a cosmetic thing, don't pay much attention to it. It is the real speeds you actually get (as you measured) that matter. Try other servers too, NY often is busy.
I just got the Moto X last week and I never see 4G LTE. I only see 4G.
I live in NYC, we should have LTE here??
Is your sim 4g enable , is your phone tarif a 4g one
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Were you on AT&T before? I know NYC is notorious for poor reception on AT&T
That's not true. I get LTE all over NYC and the five boroughs when I'm there
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virtuewill said:
I just got the Moto X last week and I never see 4G LTE. I only see 4G.
I live in NYC, we should have LTE here??
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What is the difference? 4g is 4g lte. Same thing. LTE is just an acronym for long term evolution.
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What is the difference? 4g is 4g lte. Same thing. LTE is just an acronym for long term evolution.
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While technically 3G according to some, ATT and T-Mobile in the USA refer to their HSPA+ networks as 4G due to their theoretic max speed (T-Mobile's is 42mbps in many areas) being faster than their UMTS/HSPA and other 3G network technologies.
Where 4G LTE means 4G using LTE.
So for ATT/T-Mobile... saying 4G isn't the same as saying 4G LTE.
I'm not sure if carriers outside of the USA do the same.
Since Verizon has EVDO Rev A and B (3G), and LTE (4G), when it comes to Verizon saying 4G is the same as saying 4G LTE.
But if you want to get technical, even the LTE in use today, didn't meet the original ITU definition of 4G anyway, but that is another story.
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virtuewill said:
I just got the Moto X last week and I never see 4G LTE. I only see 4G.
I live in NYC, we should have LTE here??
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It depends.
One scenario I've seen ATT users complain of not getting LTE in areas where ATT has LTE coverage is when they purchased a Developer Edition X, and while switching to it, gave ATT the IMEI for the X. Since the IMEI doesn't match their DB, ATT often adds it as a 3G or HSPA+ device only, and it wont get LTE speeds. One way around this is to have an LTE device capable of using a nano on your account first, and then just moving the SIM to the X when you receive it. (we did that with my sister in law's HTC to X swap. We went to the ATT store and got her a Nano sim using an adapter for her HTC, then when the X arrived, we just moved the SIM and her X got LTE).
If you are trying to use a Verizon X (which is sim unlocked), it doesn't support the frequencies used by ATT for LTE, so it wont get better than HSPA+.
Of course if your X is an ATT Branded device (XT1058 with the ATT logo on the back, and all the bloat), and have a newer, LTE compatible, SIM, you should get LTE where ever ATT has their LTE service deployed, including NYC.
One thing I don't know is.. if the LTE network is "over capacity" in that area, might the phone fall back to HSPA+ instead?
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While technically 3G according to some, ATT and T-Mobile in the USA refer to their HSPA+ networks as 4G due to their theoretic max speed (T-Mobile's is 42mbps in many areas) being faster than their UMTS/HSPA and other 3G network technologies.
Where 4G LTE means 4G using LTE.
So for ATT/T-Mobile... saying 4G isn't the same as saying 4G LTE.
I'm not sure if carriers outside of the USA do the same.
Since Verizon has EVDO Rev A and B (3G), and LTE (4G), when it comes to Verizon saying 4G is the same as saying 4G LTE.
But if you want to get technical, even the LTE in use today, didn't meet the original ITU definition of 4G anyway, but that is another story.
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It depends.
One scenario I've seen ATT users complain of not getting LTE in areas where ATT has LTE coverage is when they purchased a Developer Edition X, and while switching to it, gave ATT the IMEI for the X. Since the IMEI doesn't match their DB, ATT often adds it as a 3G or HSPA+ device only, and it wont get LTE speeds. One way around this is to have an LTE device capable of using a nano on your account first, and then just moving the SIM to the X when you receive it. (we did that with my sister in law's HTC to X swap. We went to the ATT store and got her a Nano sim using an adapter for her HTC, then when the X arrived, we just moved the SIM and her X got LTE).
If you are trying to use a Verizon X (which is sim unlocked), it doesn't support the frequencies used by ATT for LTE, so it wont get better than HSPA+.
Of course if your X is an ATT Branded device (XT1058 with the ATT logo on the back, and all the bloat), and have a newer, LTE compatible, SIM, you should get LTE where ever ATT has their LTE service deployed, including NYC.
One thing I don't know is.. if the LTE network is "over capacity" in that area, might the phone fall back to HSPA+ instead?
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Thanks man. That is a good point about the IMEI. I'll check that later. It asked me to check during activation but I didn't want to.
I called ATT yesterday and they said something wrong with provisioning. They saw I was only connected to the 3g signal. They fixed the provisioning but nothing changed. Either it's the IMEI or I'll just let the store figure it out
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Thanks man. That is a good point about the IMEI. I'll check that later. It asked me to check during activation but I didn't want to.
I called ATT yesterday and they said something wrong with provisioning. They saw I was only connected to the 3g signal. They fixed the provisioning but nothing changed. Either it's the IMEI or I'll just let the store figure it out
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Is your device an ATT branded X? or from other carrier or dev edition? If its ATT branded, they should be able to fix it.
If its from other carrier or its the Dev Edition, they might spin their wheels. If you run into that, try having them switch you to another ATT phone that is LTE, then move the sim to your X (without telling them you are switching or updating the IMEI on your account), OR try working with their phone support, telling them you are switching devices, and giving them the IMEI for an ATT LTE compatible phone instead of the one from your X.
There was discussion in another thread, but I don't remember which, where others with GSM Dev X trying to get them working on ATT ran into this problem, got a run around, couldn't get it fixed, and were stuck on HSPA+. The using the other LTE phone trick was used successfully. In addition, someone, who apparently works for ATT, was in that thread and via PM conversations (to get account info, etc) was able to fix this for Dev X users and get them working LTE on ATT.
Copied from phone arena, yet device page doesn't list the bands.
"The FCC filing is for a *Motorola device with the model number*XT1254, which matches the leaked DROID Turbo model number we've seen before. The odd thing is that the filing lists support for*LTE Bands 2, 4, 5, and 17, and GSM and WCDMA frequencies at 850MHz, 1700MHz, and 1900MHz. Those bands match up with AT&T and T-Mobile; but, the DROID Turbo would be a Verizon device"
My question is for my friend who uses cricket. Would the droid turbo work with cricket?
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Copied from phone arena, yet device page doesn't list the bands.
"The FCC filing is for a *Motorola device with the model number*XT1254, which matches the leaked DROID Turbo model number we've seen before. The odd thing is that the filing lists support for*LTE Bands 2, 4, 5, and 17, and GSM and WCDMA frequencies at 850MHz, 1700MHz, and 1900MHz. Those bands match up with AT&T and T-Mobile; but, the DROID Turbo would be a Verizon device"
My question is for my friend who uses cricket. Would the droid turbo work with cricket?
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just wait, next week we will have full specs and we will know for sure.
There are two Droid Turbo listings that have gone through the FCC.
FCC ID: IHDT56PK1 is the Verizon Droid Turbo. It has support for:
GSM 850 / 900
WCDMA Band II / V
CDMA2000 BC0 / BC1
LTE Bands 2/4/7/13
This is pretty much a typical "global" Verizon phone. It does not support AT&T LTE bands but should work on their 3G network. Cricket uses the AT&T network. However there is that second Droid Turbo listing.
FCC ID: IHDT56PK2 is the other listing, it is stated as electrically identical to the Verizon Droid Turbo. It has support for:
GSM 850 / 1900
WCDMA Band II / IV / V
LTE Bands 2/4/5/7/17
This is more or less an AT&T version of the Droid Turbo. So this would be the phone you should be looking for when it eventually comes out.
Networks and Bands
CDMA/EVDO Rev A (850, 1900MHz)
LTE Cat 4 (bands 2, 3, 4, 7, 13)
Carrier Aggregation (B4+13)
GSM/GPRS/EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900MHz)
UMTS/HSPA+ (850, 900, 1900, 2100MHz
will this phone be able to use on tmobile LTE band?
shah_vm said:
will this phone be able to use on tmobile LTE band?
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Probably not.
I put my ATT SIM card in, clicked on the "not a verizon sim card" pop up to make it go away.
Had a 3G icon but speeds are not bad, getting 6-7 Mbps / 2 Mbps (down/up) on ATT. Configured proper APN and it still did not matter.
Put the Verizon sim back and had LTE and noticed the APN I saved for ATT was gone and the Verizon one was back.
In any case, I don't plan to use this device on ATT but was curious if that (ATT) sim would work. Why? If it works (which it did, placed calls, and sent SMS), this means I should be able to travel overseas and use another SIM card. It was a question I could not get answered in the corporate VZW store. Now I know.
I'd suspect TMO LTE would not work. If you plan on using the device full time you probably won't have LTE speeds.
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Probably not.
I put my ATT SIM card in, clicked on the "not a verizon sim card" pop up to make it go away.
Had a 3G icon but speeds are not bad, getting 6-7 Mbps / 2 Mbps (down/up) on ATT. Configured proper APN and it still did not matter.
Put the Verizon sim back and had LTE and noticed the APN I saved for ATT was gone and the Verizon one was back.
In any case, I don't plan to use this device on ATT but was curious if that (ATT) sim would work. Why? If it works (which it did, placed calls, and sent SMS), this means I should be able to travel overseas and use another SIM card. It was a question I could not get answered in the corporate VZW store. Now I know.
I'd suspect TMO LTE would not work. If you plan on using the device full time you probably won't have LTE speeds.
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http://support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-4988
AFAIK, Turbo support band 2, 4 which is compatible with T-Mobile. (1700, 2100).
I don't see the supported band in 3G and GSM but 4G
Also, Motorola planned to launch an international version of Turbo so if you don't want to get from verizon, you can get this version.
Yeah I'd suspect it was using HSPA+ because I've never gotten speeds much above 1 or 2mbps down with 3G.
Either way, definitely not a deal breaker, anything is better than dreaded EDGE/1X LOL.
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will this phone be able to use on tmobile LTE band?
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I bought this phone on a lark to see if it would work on T-Mo, and I CAN receive LTE. I validated download speeds above 12 MBPS. The coverage seems to be a bit spotty and I am not sure what band is being picked up. I am in Minneapolis.
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cpufrost said:
Probably not.
I put my ATT SIM card in, clicked on the "not a verizon sim card" pop up to make it go away.
Had a 3G icon but speeds are not bad, getting 6-7 Mbps / 2 Mbps (down/up) on ATT. Configured proper APN and it still did not matter.
Put the Verizon sim back and had LTE and noticed the APN I saved for ATT was gone and the Verizon one was back.
In any case, I don't plan to use this device on ATT but was curious if that (ATT) sim would work. Why? If it works (which it did, placed calls, and sent SMS), this means I should be able to travel overseas and use another SIM card. It was a question I could not get answered in the corporate VZW store. Now I know.
I'd suspect TMO LTE would not work. If you plan on using the device full time you probably won't have LTE speeds.
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I can confirm LTE does work for T-mobile. I popped my sim in and set up the APN and I can get LTE with download speeds in the 20M range now.
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I bought this phone on a lark to see if it would work on T-Mo, and I CAN receive LTE. I validated download speeds above 12 MBPS. The coverage seems to be a bit spotty and I am not sure what band is being picked up. I am in Minneapolis.
thankjs
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I can confirm LTE does work for T-mobile. I popped my sim in and set up the APN and I can get LTE with download speeds in the 20M range now.
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Thanks for confirming
cpufrost said:
Probably not.
I put my ATT SIM card in, clicked on the "not a verizon sim card" pop up to make it go away.
Had a 3G icon but speeds are not bad, getting 6-7 Mbps / 2 Mbps (down/up) on ATT. Configured proper APN and it still did not matter.
Put the Verizon sim back and had LTE and noticed the APN I saved for ATT was gone and the Verizon one was back.
In any case, I don't plan to use this device on ATT but was curious if that (ATT) sim would work. Why? If it works (which it did, placed calls, and sent SMS), this means I should be able to travel overseas and use another SIM card. It was a question I could not get answered in the corporate VZW store. Now I know.
I'd suspect TMO LTE would not work. If you plan on using the device full time you probably won't have LTE speeds.
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@cpufrost - curious to know if simultaneous data and voice worked for you with your ATT sim. thanks.
cortez.i said:
@cpufrost - curious to know if simultaneous data and voice worked for you with your ATT sim. thanks.
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It does on tmo...
shah_vm said:
will this phone be able to use on tmobile LTE band?
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@cpufrost - curious to know if simultaneous data and voice worked for you with your ATT sim. thanks.
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Yes, just tried it and was able to surf while on a call.
Speed tests show about the same speeds as well, approx 6 down, 2 up.
However when on Verizon there is no data when on a call. They need to enable LTE for voice and data. I believe it's Advanced calling 1.0.
Interestingly enough I got a text yesterday afternoon on my other number that's on an iphone 6 that is now active.
Hopefully it won't be long.
EDIT: Even though the signal icon shows 3G when the ATT sim is there it may be getting LTE. My area doesn't get good signal, typ. -115dBM on LTE and -90 dBM for HSPA, etc. I'll have to try it in an area where LTE is stronger. In any case HSPA+ is pretty good, it surfs pretty fast.
Thanks guys
Sent from my unlocked consumer edition Motorola Droid Maxx xt1080m.
Canadian Network Support / LTE
Hey guys,
Picked up the Turbo at a Buffalo best Buy and set it up today on Rogers/Fido. Couldn't seem to get an LTE signal even though the phone and network seem to be compatible on LTE band 4.
Anyways, for any of those wondering about this or considering doing the same thing and bringing a Turbo up north, after about an hour 4G LTE switched on by itself and I must say these speeds are incredible. 76MB Down and 17MB Up. My home cable speeds aren't that fast.
So basically, anyone reading this thread in Canada. Fear not and buy this beast of a phone.
P.S. (I used the "LTEMOBILE.APN" APN)
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Hey guys,
Picked up the Turbo at a Buffalo best Buy and set it up today on Rogers/Fido. Couldn't seem to get an LTE signal even though the phone and network seem to be compatible on LTE band 4.
Anyways, for any of those wondering about this or considering doing the same thing and bringing a Turbo up north, after about an hour 4G LTE switched on by itself and I must say these speeds are incredible. 76MB Down and 17MB Up. My home cable speeds aren't that fast.
So basically, anyone reading this thread in Canada. Fear not and buy this beast of a phone.
P.S. (I used the "LTEMOBILE.APN" APN)
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How much did it cost you outright?
HTC One M8
Elisha said:
How much did it cost you outright?
HTC One M8
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Just over $700 USD. Not bad at all if you ask me. As soon as I sell my LG G3 it'll be a $200 upgrade.
04deveni said:
Just over $700 USD. Not bad at all if you ask me. As soon as I sell my LG G3 it'll be a $200 upgrade.
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32gb or 64gb?
HTC One M8
it work with venezuela bands?
2g 900 and 850
3g 900 and 1900
4g 1800
thanks
You guys are actively using the Verizon droid turbo on other Sim cards and networks? Isn't the Sim card a micro Sim card? I can use this device with T-Mobile out of the box without unlocking or needing to anything special?
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I have a Nexus 6 that I bought from Motorola.com and am using it with an activated nano sim card on Verizon. Previously I have had no problems with getting signal (LTE or 3G) but now that it just updated to 5.1.1 I can only get 3G when network settings are on "LTE/CDMA" and I get LTE when set on "LTE/GSM/UMTS". I am in an area that has pretty strong 4G but cant get it unless I change the setting. Has anyone else had a problem with this? Also I am open to suggestions for alternate ROMS that have been found to work well on Verizon. Thanks.
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I have a Nexus 6 that I bought from Motorola.com and am using it with an activated nano sim card on Verizon. Previously I have had no problems with getting signal (LTE or 3G) but now that it just updated to 5.1.1 I can only get 3G when network settings are on "LTE/CDMA" and I get LTE when set on "LTE/GSM/UMTS". I am in an area that has pretty strong 4G but cant get it unless I change the setting. Has anyone else had a problem with this? Also I am open to suggestions for alternate ROMS that have been found to work well on Verizon. Thanks.
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Verify that you are using the correct APN. However, I believe the correct setting for you would be LTE/GSM as Verizon is a GSM carrier.
LTE/CDMA works fine for me on Verizon.
Verizon is not a GSM Carrier. They are CDMA just like Sprint. The only reason both companies use SIM cards is for LTE only.
graydiggy said:
Verizon is not a GSM Carrier. They are CDMA just like Sprint. The only reason both companies use SIM cards is for LTE only.
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Thanks for clarification! I thought AT&T was the other CDMA and the rest were GSM besides Sprint. Again, thanks for setting me straight.
AT&T and T-Mobile are GSM, Sprint and Verizon are CDMA. Just for future reference.
I have a Nexus 6 that has the Verizon image on it and would like to know if an unlocked Nexus 6 would work perfectly fine on the Verizon network or will I have to keep the Verizon image?
In other words can I use N6F27I instead of the Verizon specific N8I11B and if I do will I still get complete coverage on all of the Verizon network?
You can use whatever nexus 6 Rom you want, with or without a locked bootloader. So yes it will still work on your network
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But will it work utilizing all of Verizon's frequencies and network?
Yep, because the bands are all preset at the factory. The version of Android you throw on the N6 has nothing to do with it.
So would there be any advantage or disadvantage of using the Verizon version?
That's something you're going to have to find out for yourself. I'm not on stock.
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So would there be any advantage or disadvantage of using the Verizon version?
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I use an unlocked AT&T N6 that I removed all the AT&T ringtones, bootup chimes etc. and have no problem using it on Verizon. The only Verizon app I use is "My Verizon" to pay my bill and it works without a hiccup.
And it works on all of the Verizon bands including their 3G, 4G LTE and 1X Bands?
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And it works on all of the Verizon bands including their 3G, 4G LTE and 1X Bands?
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Mine did. I set preferred network type to LTE / CDMA and everything worked.