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ok can you use a Sprint HTC One on the ATT network if you unlock remove simlock and all that jazz? Or is there a fundamental hardware difference?
bongo264 said:
ok can you use a Sprint HTC One on the ATT network if you unlock remove simlock and all that jazz? Or is there a fundamental hardware difference?
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Yes but u will be limited to an extent. You will not have access to all their 3g and 4g areas
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The reason I asked was because I thought it was a multimode phone.
No you can't, Sprint hard blocks their phones to prevent you from using it on any other US carrier.
CNexus said:
No you can't, Sprint hard blocks their phones to prevent you from using it on any other US carrier.
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I've had success with using tmobile with calls and data(5mb/s). It picked up the att network too, but I've never tried.
Tazdeviloo7 said:
I've had success with using tmobile with calls and data(5mb/s). It picked up the att network too, but I've never tried.
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Interesting, I was going by the information in this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2415587
And I assumed that Sprint did it to all their phones because it would be odd to just hard block a single model.
I have unlocked mine but have had no luck connecting to att when putting my att sim in
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You can sim unlock the Sprint One and use it per this article.
This model of the One supports Sprint's 3G (CDMA 800/850/1900) and LTE (1900 only) networks, along with GSM/EDGE on 850/900/1800/1900 and HSPA 14.4 on the 1900 and 2100MHz bands. That means this phone will roam internationally at 3G speeds. In theory, you could unlock it to work poorly on AT&T's and T-Mobile's networks, but it wouldn't be able to take advantage of fast speeds on either.
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I have HTC one unlocked by Sprint and Galaxy S4 unlocked with DFS tool. Neither can get any signal from ATT or Tmobile including all the MVNO.
Lycamobile sim card will show "Roaming" with HTC one, but it keeps dropping. Dev said Sprint blocked MNC/MCC of ATT/Tmobile.
I can get on T-Mobile fine, never tried AT&T but it would also depend on the frequency that is in use in your market. Regarding the Sprint GS4, the unlock method out for it will only unlock for international only, while the unlock on HTC is a true unlock and will work as long as the bands are compatible.
I have a t-mobile sim in right now my area has hspa on 1900 so I use that for higher speed data than sprint 3G then switch the mode to cdma for voice
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jesmann said:
I have a t-mobile sim in right now my area has hspa on 1900 so I use that for higher speed data than sprint 3G then switch the mode to cdma for voice
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After you've done the unlock for the Sim, can you see the other available networks while the Sprint sim is still installed or do you have to remove the Sprint Sim and install a T-Mobile or ATT sim for it to be able to "see" other networks??
Aerostar601 said:
After you've done the unlock for the Sim, can you see the other available networks while the Sprint sim is still installed or do you have to remove the Sprint Sim and install a T-Mobile or ATT sim for it to be able to "see" other networks??
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Only one sim slot and haven't tried. In Settings>mobile data>network mode you can select CDMA only and see Sprint 3G with either SIM in, LTE/CDMA will give Sprint voice with other SIM and Sprint 3G and/or LTE data only if Sprint SIM card in. GSM/UMTS only can only be selected if a GSM sim is inserted if I recall correctly. The GSM options including search networks are only available on that mode.
It would be cool if I could use T-Mobile's 3G for data and Sprint's CDMA for voice. Is this possible?
El_Colombiano said:
It would be cool if I could use T-Mobile's 3G for data and Sprint's CDMA for voice. Is this possible?
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I do not think so not without manually switching the modes on and off. The moment you select the T-Mobile network your voice & phone number will switch to whatever is registered on the T-Mobile sim.
im0rtalz said:
I do not think so not without manually switching the modes on and off. The moment you select the T-Mobile network your voice & phone number will switch to whatever is registered on the T-Mobile sim.
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Correct however if you have your sprint number integrated with Google Voice you can use apps like Talkatone or GrooveIP for calls via VoIP while on Tmobile data.
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jesmann said:
Correct however if you have your sprint number integrated with Google Voice you can use apps like Talkatone or GrooveIP for calls via VoIP while on Tmobile data.
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I like the way you think.
Hi guys, I'm currently in China and I want my friend in US to bring me a moto x. My ISP is running CDMA in China so I guess the only option is the Verizon version. My question is does it have a sim card slot so I can insert my own CDMA sim card to use? Is there any lock on the device？ Thanks in advance for helping!
It depends where you are going, generally though you will need to get a GSM sim card to use your phone unless there is roaming support with verizon through another company such a vodaphone. Just be careful as data while roaming is VERY expensive.
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It depends where you are going, generally though you will need to get a GSM sim card to use your phone unless there is roaming support with verizon through another company such a vodaphone. Just be careful as data while roaming is VERY expensive.
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Thanks for reply. Does that mean the sim card is only for GSM/WCDMA, not for CDMA(EDGE, Rev.A)?
I haven't been on Verizon since the thunderbolt but I know that had a Sim card slot for the LTE Sim card.. I would assume this would have the same on Verizon now but can't be sure you'd have to wait for someone with a vzw x answers
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Modern verizon sim cards are used for CDMA, GSM and LTE connections. When you travel I'd say just get a GSM sim card and don't even worry about CDMA.
I've inserted non-Verizon CDMA RUIM into XT1060 and it works! Though no data at all, and ##PROGRAM and *#*#4636#*#* do not work, so cannot access user activation settings.
A sim from my wife's AT&T iPhone 5 worked fine in my Verizon Moto X with HSPA+ speeds. No issues at all, no nothing. Just worked.
icase81 said:
A sim from my wife's AT&T iPhone 5 worked fine in my Verizon Moto X with HSPA+ speeds. No issues at all, no nothing. Just worked.
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GSM is not an issue, connecting to another CDMA network usually is!
Hey everyone. So i have a question that i can't find on here so im going to ask it. I have a Verizon HTC one unlocked. The sim car works fine and i can do everything on the phone with the T-mobile sim card. The issue is its always Edge data. Is there a specfic APN i have to use? something im not seeing? Does anyone else have this issue? It is a stock factory HTC One, nothing custom.
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Hey everyone. So i have a question that i can't find on here so im going to ask it. I have a Verizon HTC one unlocked. The sim car works fine and i can do everything on the phone with the T-mobile sim card. The issue is its always Edge data. Is there a specfic APN i have to use? something im not seeing? Does anyone else have this issue? It is a stock factory HTC One, nothing custom.
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I don't think the Verizon model will have the correct radio frequencies to use T-Mo's LTE or HSPA+ network, hence you're stuck on Edge. If you're staying with T-Mo, I'd suggest selling your current One and buying a T-Mo specific HTC One.
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I don't think the Verizon model will have the correct radio frequencies to use T-Mo's LTE or HSPA+ network, hence you're stuck on Edge. If you're staying with T-Mo, I'd suggest selling your current One and buying a T-Mo specific HTC One.
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This is pulled from Verizons website
Network: LTE, CDMA/1xEVDO Rev. A (800/1900 MHz)
Global Network: EDGE/GSM (850/900/1800/1900), HSPA/UMTS(1900/2100) aGPS capable for E911 emergency location, aGPS (assisted), sGPS (simultaneous), Standalone GPS, eCompass, GLONASS
T-mobile uses the 1900 Mhz base band and the HSPA as well. So i don't see the issue in that one.
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This is pulled from Verizons website
Network: LTE, CDMA/1xEVDO Rev. A (800/1900 MHz)
Global Network: EDGE/GSM (850/900/1800/1900), HSPA/UMTS(1900/2100) aGPS capable for E911 emergency location, aGPS (assisted), sGPS (simultaneous), Standalone GPS, eCompass, GLONASS
T-mobile uses the 1900 Mhz base band and the HSPA as well. So i don't see the issue in that one.
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From what I can tell, nobody uses the dual 1900/2100 to achieve 4G like TMO. The UMTS referred to on that phone is for worldwide use, not US. So while it may have the frequencies, it is not set up to use them like TMO. Your software and firmware are set up to work with Verizon and overseas, not with a competitor like TMO. TMO refers to theirs as HSPA+. However, it might work on the new "reframed" 1900 bands (which is called HSPA), but those are not very highly deployed. Unfortunately, I don't see LTE on that list of frequencies. The TMO LTE is really great. EDIT: I mean TMO LTE, which is also 1700/2100.
I suppose you could try unlocking it and flashing the TMO radio, but there is an entire thread on trying to unlock TMO frequencies (in that case on the developer version), and no one has figured it out yet.
I concur that your best bet would be to sell the phone and get a TMO model.
stevedebi said:
From what I can tell, nobody uses the dual 1900/2100 to achieve 4G like TMO. The UMTS referred to on that phone is for worldwide use, not US. So while it may have the frequencies, it is not set up to use them like TMO. Your software and firmware are set up to work with Verizon and overseas, not with a competitor like TMO. TMO refers to theirs as HSPA+. However, it might work on the new "reframed" 1900 bands (which is called HSPA), but those are not very highly deployed. Unfortunately, I don't see LTE on that list of frequencies. The TMO LTE is really great. EDIT: I mean TMO LTE, which is also 1700/2100.
I suppose you could try unlocking it and flashing the TMO radio, but there is an entire thread on trying to unlock TMO frequencies (in that case on the developer version), and no one has figured it out yet.
I concur that your best bet would be to sell the phone and get a TMO model.
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Yeah thats what im thinking. I need to contact and t-mobile rep and see if the re-farmed LTE here. Ill call and ask.
Alright so i called the rep and he said the area i am has been re-farmed to the 1900 range and i should be getting at least HSPA/3G but im not. Very odd issue
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Hey everyone. So i have a question that i can't find on here so im going to ask it. I have a Verizon HTC one unlocked. The sim car works fine and i can do everything on the phone with the T-mobile sim card. The issue is its always Edge data. Is there a specfic APN i have to use? something im not seeing? Does anyone else have this issue? It is a stock factory HTC One, nothing custom.
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Verison use the CDMA, maybe that's why you can only use 2.5G network, just like some phones in China, they only have GSM in common
xunqren said:
Verison use the CDMA, maybe that's why you can only use 2.5G network, just like some phones in China, they only have GSM in common
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yes but this phone has 4g lte already in it which accepts the sim card. Also, i have seen other verizon htc ones with t-mobile and never had a issue. I fell i may have to use a custom rom.
super-6-1 said:
yes but this phone has 4g lte already in it which accepts the sim card. Also, i have seen other verizon htc ones with t-mobile and never had a issue. I fell i may have to use a custom rom.
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What he is referring to is that what Verizon uses as "3G" is CDMA technology. So although they (T-Mobile and Verizon) may be on the same frequency they're using totally different technologies. Just because it has a sim card slot for a Verizon sim doesn't mean the device will be compatible with another carrier's sim. A custom ROM would not resolve this issue. Your best bet would be to sell this device and purchase one from T-Mobile. :fingers-crossed:
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What he is referring to is that what Verizon uses as "3G" is CDMA technology. So although they (T-Mobile and Verizon) may be on the same frequency they're using totally different technologies. Just because it has a sim card slot for a Verizon sim doesn't mean the device will be compatible with another carrier's sim. A custom ROM would not resolve this issue. Your best bet would be to sell this device and purchase one from T-Mobile. :fingers-crossed:
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I know what the best way to go is but i am very curious as to what is really keeping it from going out of edge. baseband? Is the TMO and Verizon radios the same? these are things i need to know! >.<
super-6-1 said:
I know what the best way to go is but i am very curious as to what is really keeping it from going out of edge. baseband? Is the TMO and Verizon radios the same? these are things i need to know! >.<
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My understanding is that the devices run on different systems for 3G and different LTE bands. You wont get more than GSM compatibility (GPRS, EDGE). Hopefully it is something that a software hack can fix but if you read around all the HTC One forums you will see no one has found it. Right now it is not possible.
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What he is referring to is that what Verizon uses as "3G" is CDMA technology. So although they (T-Mobile and Verizon) may be on the same frequency they're using totally different technologies. Just because it has a sim card slot for a Verizon sim doesn't mean the device will be compatible with another carrier's sim. A custom ROM would not resolve this issue. Your best bet would be to sell this device and purchase one from T-Mobile. :fingers-crossed:
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My question is that HTC makes phones for all T mobile verison sprint the same, so I believe its just software problem that we cant use Tmobile 4g lte on Verizon unlocked phone. SO does anyone have any comment for that?
aaloknaik said:
My question is that HTC makes phones for all T mobile verison sprint the same, so I believe its just software problem that we cant use Tmobile 4g lte on Verizon unlocked phone. SO does anyone have any comment for that?
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It is hardware not software that is the issue. The T-Mobile variant has different bands than the other variants including Verizon. T-Mobile is a GSM variant while Verizon is a CDMA variant. Here is a comparison of the specs for the variants.
CDMA and GSM technology requires the antenna to be done differently. If they are not programmed to use those signals. Nothing you can dox will change it short of putting a new antenna in.
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It is hardware not software that is the issue. The T-Mobile variant has different bands than the other variants including Verizon. T-Mobile is a GSM variant while Verizon is a CDMA variant. Here is a comparison of the specs for the variants.
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SO how do i know if my phone is Verizon CDMA unlocked or GSM unlocked
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SO how do i know if my phone is Verizon CDMA unlocked or GSM unlocked
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Because you can only unlock GSM. Cdma uses the serial/esn number of the device.
Has there been any update on this? I called tmobile and they said it was simply because I couldn't put in the APN. So, there's no chance that rooting the phone and putting a tmobile rom on it would fix the problem and let me get more than edge speeds.
I myself have been wondering the answer to this. The device might seem the same but under the cover they are different. The actual daughter board which the camera, vibrating thing, volume rocker, power button are connected to are fairly different from each other. The CDMA variant is not compatible with the GSM variant. Not even by adding a CDMA daughter board to the GSM motherboard and vice versa, the are made quiet differently and will not be able to use GSM bands on a CDMA m7
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Hello all,
On my Verizon LG G2 VS985 when roaming in Canada on telus I could get lte.
Same sim card in nexus 6 does not get me lte. Can anyone shed some insight on this as to why?
Any help will be much appreciated, thanks!
do you have data roaming and national data roaming enabled in the main settings, more, cellular networks..?
Did you have both phones at the same spot and swap your sim card and one got LTE and the N6 did not? That's probably the best way to test.
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do you have data roaming and national data roaming enabled in the main settings, more, cellular networks..?
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I do, the data works when roaming, but I don't get lte.
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Did you have both phones at the same spot and swap your sim card and one got LTE and the N6 did not? That's probably the best way to test.
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I haven't done back to back swapping, but my brother got his nexus 6 first, and us standing beside each other I had lte, he did not. Now in places where I had lte on my g3, I do not with my nexus 6.
I have it with I believe, so I will test back to back. But I'm not sure when I will have time for that yet. Next few days.
Thanks to the both of you!
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do you have data roaming and national data roaming enabled in the main settings, more, cellular networks..?
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Did you have both phones at the same spot and swap your sim card and one got LTE and the N6 did not? That's probably the best way to test.
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Quoting both of you again only for notification purposes.
Both phones side by each, LG G3 VS985 gets LTE roaming on telus, nexus 6 does not. Neither get LTE roaming on Rogers. On the G3 I can specify telus LTE , but that doesn't work, I have to wait for LTE after selecting the telus hspa network.
Not sure if these are any good, or helpful, but I am attaching 4 logs. Two from the G3, one successfully getting LTE from telus, one failing to get LTE on Rogers. Other two from nexus 6, both shortly after connection drops on telus (when I presume it's trying to get LTE and failing).
Again, if anyone can help, I'm all ears. Thanks!!
Here is the last post to me from the other thread where I started this investigation :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/cro...ress-please-leave-im-updating-t2871269/page94
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I don't know if it's a Verizon thing, but it seems like LTE roaming is dependent on the software, not necessarily the SIM (at least for Verizon).
Here, you can see the G2 had to be updated just to support LTE data roaming:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/0...ed-calling-1-0-improvements-lte-data-roaming/
So I'm wondering if there's something that need to be updated to enable this. Otherwise, this should work fine. I cannot think of a single reason for this not to work. Telus uses LTE Band 4, which both your Nexus 6 and LG G3 support. T-Mobile's main LTE frequency is also LTE Band 4, and that's the most popular carrier to use the N6 on. So it's gotta be a Verizon-specific configuration file on the phone or something.
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I think Product F(RED) may be onto something, if the G2 needed an actual OTA update to enable LTE roaming.
How about LTE while we roam on Rogers, that would be way more advantages to us since Rogers has way better coverage then Telus
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There is more to it then we think, when I gas a Verizon GS5 I would only roam on Rogers, my wife with her Verizon GS5 roams on MTS, mine would not even see MTS
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It depends on the PRL you have. Its a software thing. By the way, Telus and Bell share towers up here in the land of the great cold, much much better coverage than Rogers. And I mean, much better. Rogers has huge gaps in coverage. And all cellular networks are nonexistent once you get off the beaten path...
I'd like to revive this thread, as we are still not getting LTE while roaming in Canada on our non vzw Nexus s.
Verizon,Motorola, and Google support have been no help.
Can ananyone help?
Thanks in advance
Update: VZW Nexus 6 gets LTE when roaming no matter what. Stock or custom rom, rooted, unlocked, different recovery.
Non VZW nexus 6 does not get LTE when roaming no matter what.
The imei is the only thing left that could be causing this.
Any suggestions?
Thanks in advance.
So after a long lengthy process with VZW, they finally after 9 monthes allow non VZW Nexus 6 devices to roam on LTE, Thank you @Enigmafied ???
I have a Nexus 6 that has the Verizon image on it and would like to know if an unlocked Nexus 6 would work perfectly fine on the Verizon network or will I have to keep the Verizon image?
In other words can I use N6F27I instead of the Verizon specific N8I11B and if I do will I still get complete coverage on all of the Verizon network?
You can use whatever nexus 6 Rom you want, with or without a locked bootloader. So yes it will still work on your network
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But will it work utilizing all of Verizon's frequencies and network?
Yep, because the bands are all preset at the factory. The version of Android you throw on the N6 has nothing to do with it.
So would there be any advantage or disadvantage of using the Verizon version?
That's something you're going to have to find out for yourself. I'm not on stock.
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So would there be any advantage or disadvantage of using the Verizon version?
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I use an unlocked AT&T N6 that I removed all the AT&T ringtones, bootup chimes etc. and have no problem using it on Verizon. The only Verizon app I use is "My Verizon" to pay my bill and it works without a hiccup.
And it works on all of the Verizon bands including their 3G, 4G LTE and 1X Bands?
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And it works on all of the Verizon bands including their 3G, 4G LTE and 1X Bands?
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Mine did. I set preferred network type to LTE / CDMA and everything worked.