Does juice defender actually kill your battery more than help it - T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

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people still use this?

Why use resources to manage resources. Fix the problem. Don't use a band aid to stop the bleeding.

If your phones rooted use greenyfy, it's very helpful, if it's not use an app called fast reboot, it frees your ram memory being used by other apps and saves you battery, you can use both too

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lagunas11 said:
If your phones rooted use greenyfy, it's very helpful, if it's not use an app called fast reboot, it frees your ram memory being used by other apps and saves you battery, you can use both too
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I second the use of Greenify. No other app I've ever used has been more beneficial to battery savings than Greenify. Saves on data as well since the "call home" programs can be hibernated.
As the Dev of my current ROM (megalomanic14) explains in comical detail:
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...it allows you to have pretty much any user app installed and not constantly run which 90% of all apps do run either data checks, network check, wakelocks, ect greenify says whoa now little guy you just take a nap until it's time to play ball lol
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twe90kid said:
people still use this?
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Thats what Im saying . I wasnt sure if they were serious.
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If you are having battery drain issues most likely its an app causing it . Adding juice defender will not make anything better. Use greenify if any at all . I dont understand why you are trying to improve your battery life when the Note 4 battery life is like a nuclear reactor . Even with moderate use I am charging my battery every other day.

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Battery burning super fast?

Whilst I have been having the screen on, it shouldn't be burning this fast and it certainly didn't use to. 23 minutes on battery and 20% burned?
Did you install a new rom or new kernel? You can install an app like BetterBatteryStats to check out what might be causing this battery drain.
Vrayhem said:
Did you install a new rom or new kernel? You can install an app like BetterBatteryStats to check out what might be causing this battery drain.
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Stock ROM 4.0.4 and have never rooted or flashed anything on before. It is completely stock and unaltered in every way. All I've done is install apps. It just seems to have been a little bad recently. I have BetterBatteryStats on, but the it isn't wakelocks. As I said, I've got the screen on consistently so the phone will always be awake. It is just that 20% in that amount of time seems really high, even for constant use, and I swear it didn't use to be that bad. I've installed Juice Defender because it tends to be good in how it managers network and WiFi. So far, things seem to be stabilising. But, I still want to know what can cause such sharp drainage...
Do you have a lot of apps running in the background? This is most likely the cause. Brightness is a big issue also. Flash a kernal!
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ross231 said:
Brightness is a big issue also. Flash a kernal!
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Check that you have Auto-brightness enabled. Also, I found that certain apps can drain battery big time. I agree with checking via a battery stats program. Maybe an APP is running in the background causing the cpu to stay at max speed?
A-mak said:
Check that you have Auto-brightness enabled. Also, I found that certain apps can drain battery big time. I agree with checking via a battery stats program. Maybe an APP is running in the background causing the cpu to stay at max speed?
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Totally agree. Before I root my Note to delete some unuse apps from stock 4.0.4, the battery drains very fast. The most reason is some apps running in the background.
Did you change your sim recently? Sometimes the culprit is sim card.
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Not fixes, but suggestions:
- An app like Green Power will stop data usage when screen off
- As others said, look into your display. My favourite app is Display Brightness as it adds an invisible slider on your screen
- For some reason, Chrome in the last week began to EAT my phone. I uninstalled it and I'm back to a blessed 1% an hour drain
check this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1878828
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Hey bazz, good to see you here.
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jonpaslim said:
Hey bazz, good to see you here.
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Hey bro, that sim card is a good one, am adding that to my knowledge base
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baz77 said:
check this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1878828
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Thanks for your link, really helpful for me:good:
You may have to check your battery. Will it be hot when you are using it? Look at your battery, does it look "fat"? It happened once to me before, after changing a new battery. It's fine now. It was caused by overcharging it during the night.
I experienced it on my previous phone, now im going to prove it again in my note because i changed my sim recently and now i cannot achieved the 5 hrs i had before that my original sim card, best phone can do now is 3.5 hrs. I try to contact my provider if they can restore my previous sim card and see what will happen, its just a suspect.
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knightrazor said:
You may have to check your battery. Will it be hot when you are using it? Look at your battery, does it look "fat"? It happened once to me before, after changing a new battery. It's fine now. It was caused by overcharging it during the night.
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how can it be over charging. Doesnt it has built in function that cut-off power when charging complete. all modern chargers have that..
really would like to know cause i always charge the phone before going to sleep..
mistajoe83 said:
how can it be over charging. Doesnt it has built in function that cut-off power when charging complete. all modern chargers have that..
really would like to know cause i always charge the phone before going to sleep..
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u r right..all modern chargers hv that..so, it will cut off the power when charging is complete..even I do put my Note for charging & go to sleep
So, dont worry..put your charger for charging & u can confidently go to sleep :good:
If you have network location checked and or GPS in /setting/location and security.
that's your suck battery problem.
Network location awake the phone constantly in accord with weather widget and lot apps in background that use this feature.
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[Q] Kernel for exhibit 4g at 1.8ghz?

hey guys i herd there is a kernel for this phone that makes the phone overlock to 1.8ghz i cant find it can anyone link the thread to me if there even is one thanks!
They were before, but it is unstable and it fried CPU's so the devs dialed them down
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tazmaniondvl said:
They were before, but it is unstable and it fried CPU's so the devs dialed them down
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Oh i see makes sense lol! but is there anyway to overlock this phone ? i searched but no one has made a thread here dont know why..
Galaxy exhibit 4g original development, there are a few there that over clock this phone for ics 4.0 and above
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tazmaniondvl said:
Galaxy exhibit 4g original development, there are a few there that over clock this phone for ics 4.0 and above
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Well thank you good sir!
I am pretty sure you can still download some 1.8 clockable kernels, just not for 4.2.2
jetstream131 said:
I am pretty sure you can still download some 1.8 clockable kernels, just not for 4.2.2
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Why would anyone want that? It'd be better just to go ahead and run over the phone with a bus. There's a reason the OC kernels got dialed back by devs. BTW it doesn't make the phone that much faster either. If you need 1.8 another phone is the way to go.
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Why would anyone want that? It'd be better just to go ahead and run over the phone with a bus. There's a reason the OC kernels got dialed back by devs. BTW it doesn't make the phone that much faster either. If you need 1.8 another phone is the way to go.
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Hey i definitely agree... my phone would bootloop if i went above 1631 mhz haha. Hey but i see your using nos. Whats your personal opinion on it, especially considering battery life?
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Hey i definitely agree... my phone would bootloop if i went above 1631 mhz haha. Hey but i see your using nos. Whats your personal opinion on it, especially considering battery life?
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It strictly helps with lag IMO. I just like how my apps run smoothly and I can run multiple apps without the phone crashing & rebooting. Far as battery there is no app or tweaks that will help if you use 4.2. In fact I got rid of my battery apps as they all just eat memory and do things any user with common sense can do.
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so did you determine that v6 supercharger is not necessary for our phones if using the latest version of NOS? i only ask because in your sig you used to have v6, but now it's just baked bean with nos.
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It strictly helps with lag IMO. I just like how my apps run smoothly and I can run multiple apps without the phone crashing & rebooting. Far as battery there is no app or tweaks that will help if you use 4.2. In fact I got rid of my battery apps as they all just eat memory and do things any user with common sense can do.
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Thanks ill try that. But by battery life, i meant like does nos make it even worse? Or does it not affect battery life at all? And i have found greenify and juice defender to help A LOT for saving battery.
jetstream131 said:
Thanks ill try that. But by battery life, i meant like does nos make it even worse? Or does it not affect battery life at all? And i have found greenify and juice defender to help A LOT for saving battery.
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Greenify is OK but your main battery culprit is Gnow/Maps. Technically Greenify is supposed to be able to hibernate Maps but that is useless as Gnow needs it quite a bit so it gets awaken a lot. I love Gnow and choose to live with that as I use mass transit and those features are needed. However if you don't, then disable Maps and that will increase your battery somewhat.
Far as Juice Defender and the like, they are a joke IMHO. I used Juice Defender for over a year (they haven't updated the app on over a year either) and just like a lot of them you only save battery if you let it disable data and Wifi when not in use. I don't really care for that and can turn those on and off at will myself. Trust me you will see these battery apps are all smoke & mirrors.
Far as NOS consumption of battery, seems to have no effect one way or another.

[Q] Power Saver

Guys, do you keep your power saver ON the whole time? Cause I'm doing that. It seems to improve my battery life. My phones battery last more than a day, and while it's ON, I don't see any slow downs or lag which is good. I think it's better to leave it On the whole time. What do you think? Thanks!
I'm keeping Power Save ON always either. The options I've ticked there are the ones for CPU underclock and Data Management. For a week or so I've tried Power Saver combined with Snapdragon BatteryGuru but it didn't improved the battery life which I already was able to achieve so I've uninstalled it. Now I have installed Wi-Fi Matic and Smart Profiles (Free) with Power Save ON and I get the best battery autonomy.
Nope as long sleep mode im good
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So it's better to leave it ON right? Will the notifications be delayed or the screen will slow down? What do you guys think I should do, leave it ON, or just when the battery is getting low then i'll ON it?
toke420 said:
So it's better to leave it ON right? Will the notifications be delayed or the screen will slow down? What do you guys think I should do, leave it ON, or just when the battery is getting low then i'll ON it?
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Leave it on. The slow down is barely noticeable, and it'll get you some extra time before the phone needs to be charged.
Personally, I only tick the cpu box.
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ataft said:
Leave it on. The slow down is barely noticeable, and it'll get you some extra time before the phone needs to be charged.
Personally, I only tick the cpu box.
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There's no downside to leaving it on. 1.1GHz is plenty for most everything to run perfectly smoothly and it doesn't affect the GPU so gaming remains excellent. Personally I don't find it hugely useful (maybe an extra hour with my use) but it sure doesn't hurt anything
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There's no downside to leaving it on. 1.1GHz is plenty for most everything to run perfectly smoothly and it doesn't affect the GPU so gaming remains excellent. Personally I don't find it hugely useful (maybe an extra hour with my use) but it sure doesn't hurt anything
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what do you mean not useful? It is actually. hehe. I mean it gives me more battery life. Do you keep yours ON all the time too?
I've found another great app for battery saving, which switch on/off data connections smarter than Power Saver. I'm talking about GreenPower Free Battery Saver / GreenPower Premium. I hope this helps you. It helped me.
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what do you mean not useful? It is actually. hehe. I mean it gives me more battery life. Do you keep yours ON all the time too?
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Like I said, with my usage I only get about another hour, and yes that's with it on the whole time. I don't doubt that the way others use their phone could make it have a larger effect (I'm jealous of these people ) , but for me 1hr doesn't cross into the "useful" category.
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MoshuXXL said:
I've found another great app for battery saving, which switch on/off data connections smarter than Power Saver. I'm talking about GreenPower Free Battery Saver / GreenPower Premium. I hope this helps you. It helped me.
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Thanks, I'll try it out! Do you have any experiences with Greenify?
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On all the time. No slowdown.
On all the time.... So far so good .... No lag.
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On all the time.... So far so good .... No lag.
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Forcing the CPU to under clock won't affect your performance but potentially greatly improve battery life, so why not.

App killer

Do you use some kind of apps to kill running applications? Or you think that you don't need that and you have enough battery for a day?
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I don't bother, I've had no problems with battery life. I usually go 1.5d on a charge.
On healthy Android you should not use any Task Killer because is not needed and it's not a good solution but sometime I used Task Killer because my cooked Android didn't do well his job so I tried to help.
its usually a bad thing to use a task killer because android will have to restart alot of those services it kills which burns more battery than it saves.
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its usually a bad thing to use a task killer because android will have to restart alot of those services it kills which burns more battery than it saves.
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^ That ^
Moze666 said:
Do you use some kind of apps to kill running applications? Or you think that you don't need that and you have enough battery for a day?
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Each app has a set criteria and if you use an app killer then you are wasting your time because the app will simply restart when the app's criteria is met again.
Your best bet is to use apps like autostarts or greenify or both, as they will alter the set criteria and will actually save battery.
Been using autostarts for years, you'd be surprised to see what starts up and when.
Avoid active task killers like the plague they're all crap.
I was using autostarts on my X10, but I was rooted then and now I'm not rooted, so I will look up greenify
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I have been using Qualcomm Snapdragon BatteryGuru since I last flashed 290. It's a bit vague about what it does (other than give you charge reminders and control some background data for some apps), but I can easily stretch a charge into 2d if I want to. Obviously, heavy use still tops out around 18h, but it does seem to make some improvements. Wish I knew more about what it was doing, though.
xasbo said:
I have been using Qualcomm Snapdragon BatteryGuru since I last flashed 290. It's a bit vague about what it does (other than give you charge reminders and control some background data for some apps), but I can easily stretch a charge into 2d if I want to. Obviously, heavy use still tops out around 18h, but it does seem to make some improvements. Wish I knew more about what it was doing, though.
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Exact the same experiece here! :good:

How to maintain best performance as possible?

Any tips that you guys recommend? Perhaps a tool that identifies the resource-intensive processes?
It's pretty fast 95% of the time but just wondering
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FooBazza said:
Any tips that you guys recommend? Perhaps a tool that identifies the resource-intensive processes?
It's pretty fast 95% of the time but just wondering
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Apps that you downloaded, but don't use them, just remove. Get good quality apps from reputable source/brand. Your phone should let you know if the app is using more resources. Restart your device at least once a week to free up some RAM. In the settings, on the battery screen you will be able to see if an app or hardware is using % of battery.

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