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[Q] Official Dock connected to mains = no audio?

Hi peeps,
I've only just noticed that when I have my dock connected to the mains and my phone is charging via it, the Steak for some reason looses all audio mad: got up late cos no alarm sound). The weird thing is that the phone will still vibrate, I've known phones in the past to disable vibration while charging but never audio. If the phone is on the dock and charging via my PC, it's fine, it's just when it's connected via the mains.
I haven't tried using my normal data cable with the mains yet (it's kept in the car for sat nav'ing or for work) but I'll give that a try.
Anyone else notice this at all and anyone know how to enable sound while charging on the mains? Thanks!

When you say "mains" does that mean wall charger?
What ROM are you running?

Hi, yeah I mean charging from the wall with the supplied USB adapter. I'm running official 2.2 BB-318 v12821 with the performance tweak. The official dock has a couple ports at the back of it, there's a mini USB port (which I connect to my PC with) and a small cylindrical power socket (the cable for that goes from a round cylinder head to a normal USB end) and I only ever have one or the other plug in.
I've just tested it with the normal data cable and it works fine. I plugged the dock back in and put the phone on it, then played some music and it actually started playing...but at a reduced volume, after I unplugged either the dock or the phone, the volume jumped up. But the next time I connect the dock or the phone back it goes back to no audio again. It's weird, somes times it'll play audio and sometimes it doesn't.
Could this have anything to do with how the music player now has a HDMI option? The reason I ask this is cos the phone automatically brings up the clock dock screen when docked with the mains connected (doens't do it when connected to the PC) and on that screen the is an option to play music.
On a side note, I can't seem to play video via HDMI any more (just says "This file is audio only") and I can't get music to go out of it either, it doesn't detect it when I have the dock connected to my TV (even with the mains connected on either the TV or on the phone). Would it make a difference it I had it connected to a TV or an AMP?

look like you have set your dock audio out mode.. i don't have problem.
when you connect your mobile in dock hit the menu button and there is option dock setting and then speaker out option then disable speaker out your done.

Thanks for the response dude, but it didn't make a difference, it still seems to randomly allow audio and sometimes it doesn't

I had that problem running the same ROM so i set the settings for the dock to ask me about audio when streak is in the dock,then i plugged in the streak and it came up asking what i wanted to do so i allowed audio then lifted it out of the dock went back into settings and changed it always allow audio and now everything seems to be OK

Cool, thanks LUFC! I think thats done it, it still doesn't like it when music is playing and you plug it in, but if you don't have music, plug it in then play music it's fine, but again, you can tell that there's a bit of a volume decrease but it'll do!

I'm running DJ Steve 1.5.1. Are there any dock settings or is it only on Stock 2.2?

hammermedia said:
I'm running DJ Steve 1.5.1. Are there any dock settings or is it only on Stock 2.2?
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Go to all Programs click on the clock when it loads up click on the middle button on the streak (menu) and thats the dock settings

THANKS I knew I saw it somewhere.

those who have the official dock can you output videos like movies that you have on yoru memory card and pass them off to your tv? or is it just videos you record?

On 1.6 I was able to play anything through the TV via HDMI only if the native player would play it, so not just recorded vids. However, ever since the official 2.2 update, I've not been able to get anything to play through HDMI....but to be fair I only had a quick play, didn't look to much into it as I don't really use it for that at all.

This was an issue for me too. I was wondering WTF was going on... Thanks guys!

Audio Out from Main Connector

I believe that there is audio available from pins 27 & 28 of the main connector but you have to place a resistor between other pins to get it to work.
Does anyone know how to go about this?
And is the audio at full level to drive headphones or is it low level?
And do the internal speakers get turned off when the main connector is used?
Any help would be appreciated.

I don't have one yet but the video cable (rca not hdmi cable) should output sound, I think it would be "low"volume tho

I have the rca tv out cable. What exactly do you need to know?
While.it is plugged in, speakers turn off and out put volume is controlled by volume button.
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I have the rca tv out cable. What exactly do you need to know?
While.it is plugged in, speakers turn off and out put volume is controlled by volume button.
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I have read in previous posts that connecting directly to pins 27 & 28 wont give you any audio out. Apparantly you have to put a resister between other pins to tell the Tab to output audio. This is what I'm not sure about. I have just ordered some plugs to do some testing from kineteka.com.
I want to make a lead that will charge the Tab & give me high level audio out.

I recently purchased an 30pin to RCA adaptor. Unfortunately it seems like my ROM (Paranoid Android 2.20) doesn't support it as it reboots the moment i connect it. Which ROM have you guys successfully used to for the RCA connector?

[Q] Samsung Dock audio 'POP' problem

Hi Guys
I have my Notes dock connected to a pair of active studio monitor speakers (Cakewalk). When the 3.5mm audio jack is connected to the Notes 3.5mm out on the top of the phone all is well.
When I connect via the docks 3.5mm out (and set the Notes audio to dock out) I get an audible 'pop' from the speakers when the screen is touched - seems like a surge of power from the sound card audilbe from the USB but not from the phones own 3.5mm out.
When the phone is awake using fairly regular touches there are no pops, only when it is dormant for a few seconds does it make you jump out of your skin
I have had the same set up running perfectly using an HTC HD2 and Kidiggi docking cradle.
I don't know if it is the Dock or my Galaxy Note at fault
Any help is appreciated
SG

I'm experiencing the same issue.
Audio ouput through the Note's own 3.5mm jack is popping as well. Doesn't matter whether I'm using passive headphones or an active speaker.
The Note I had before I got a replacement had this too, so it seems to be a general problem :/
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Forgot to say that it seems that the speaker output gets disabled when there is no sound for about 2 seconds. As soon as something makes a sound the speaker gets enabled again and produces the popping sound.
So while listening to some music or watching videos there is no popping at all. Only when the playback starts.

I have the same problem with my SGN. It's much more noticable, when I connect car charger, but without it it's still there, but u need to focus to hear it. Any of you found solution to this?

squicky said:
I have the same problem with my SGN. It's much more noticable, when I connect car charger, but without it it's still there, but u need to focus to hear it. Any of you found solution to this?
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No, unfortunately not... :/

what is wrong with Motorola's headphone jack??

I previously had a droid ultra and it had thr same problem. Im using bose headphones and for some reason they headphones dont plug in all the way. I know the headphones work properly because i use them on my computer and tablet. Do i need to be using a specific headphone jack size. I figured the size the bose headphones came with would be fine. Anyone else having this problem??

Do you mean the plug sticks out above the chassis, or when you plug them in, sound still comes through the speaker and not headphones?
When I plug my Yurbuds into my Moto X there is a very small portion of the gold plug still showing. I think the port is just shallow, but the headphones work fine.

I've had the same issue. I opt not to use it. Bluetooth ftw.

ultramegaman963 said:
I previously had a droid ultra and it had thr same problem. Im using bose headphones and for some reason they headphones dont plug in all the way. I know the headphones work properly because i use them on my computer and tablet. Do i need to be using a specific headphone jack size. I figured the size the bose headphones came with would be fine. Anyone else having this problem??
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They just don't have as much extra material around it to cover the whole thing. It is a result of the curved edge the jack is on. Works just fine, though, and produces some decent enough sound for a phone.

Yeah my earbuds' jack sticks out a little bit, but the sound itself is okay. Never had an issue with my jack yet.

Make sure there is not lint in the jack. That can cause sound/fitment issues.

Pretty sure everybody else covered it, but mine works fine as well. I do find that you have to give the 3.5mm plug a little extra "push" at the end but I am rewarded with a satisfying "click" once it is all the way in. A portion of the plug still shows from the back, but this is irrelevant as the only connections that need to be made are further down anyway. I have used it with both headphones, and the AUX cable in my car (with a VERY expensive subwoofer and sound system) and have found that the sound quality puts my Droid Bionic (even with DSP manager) to shame.

JamPort USB DAC car audio?

http://www.isimplesolutions.com/charge/jamport-streaming-charging.html
Anybody here ever play with one of these?
It says it works with the GS4, it seems to be just a USB DAC. From what I remember, our N4's work on this type of device, right?
From the user manual:
IS3301 uses Android Open Accessory Protocol. Accessory mode is ultimatley
dependant on the devices hardware, and not all devices support accessory mode
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This is pretty much exactly the device I've been looking for. I've got a really good head unit, it's just that it's pre-BT/USB/anything else useful. It'd cost me pretty big bucks to replace with a equivalent "modern" HU. I currently use a 3.5mm->RCA->HU aux input setup right now that is lacking in quality.
I just can't find anything about this thing online.

I'm not sure about that particular device, but most if not all USB DACs work with the N4 (on 4.x at least, LP reportedly broke compatibility with some previously working units ). I have an Asus Xonar U3 ($40 when I bought it from Amazon), and it's really FAR surpassed my expectations. As long as you plug it in before launching your (any, afaik) music player, it should produce a very noticeable improvement on sq. If you do end up getting a USB DAC, I'd highly recommend at least checking out the 14 day trial of USB Audio Player Pro... it bypasses the system's drivers and uses it's own, and IMO the sq is untouchable! If you listen to a lot of music from your N4 (a great output source in itself, x100 with UAPP) I can say pretty confidently that investing in a DAC will greatly increase your enjoyment! :good:

i use my nexus 7 as my in dash, how would this help ? currently just using 3.5mm port to rca to get the audio out...

does it charge the tablet at the same time?

I should have mentioned in my post above that portable USB DACs are primarily intended to be used with headphones. They will generally improve sound output to speakers as well, but a car-audio specific device like the one the OP posted may be better for that application... however, the only immediately apparent difference are the RCA plugs vs. aux. Worth the price difference? Not having heard that device as well as the lack of info/reviews (possibly a bad sign), my guess would be "no". With a device like mine or the Fiio usb models, you get the bonus of versatility: carrying it in your pocket and using headphones and then just using it in your car via an aux input (as long as your receiver has one). A caveat to using a portable USB DAC is that they actually drain your battery significantly faster (I found it odd that mine would only work with a "regular" micro usb to usb adapter cable, no sound when I tried it with a powered micro usb hub).
There may very well be better products if the intent is just to use it for car audio... I'm just not personally aware of any. I'm sure there are better forums (similar to head-fi.org but specific to cars) where you could probably find or get better answers re: good DACs for car audio

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does it charge the tablet at the same time?
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The one I posted says it does charge @2A.
My other question is: What controls the audio volume when you use a DAC?
My biggest issue is even with the volume maxed on my N4, my h/u sees very low input volume, and I have to nearly max out my h/u's volume to get anywhere, which induces a lot of clipping and distortion.. Which is bad.
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I'm not sure about that particular device, but most if not all USB DACs work with the N4 (on 4.x at least, LP reportedly broke compatibility with some previously working units ). I have an Asus Xonar U3 ($40 when I bought it from Amazon), and it's really FAR surpassed my expectations. As long as you plug it in before launching your (any, afaik) music player, it should produce a very noticeable improvement on sq. If you do end up getting a USB DAC, I'd highly recommend at least checking out the 14 day trial of USB Audio Player Pro... it bypasses the system's drivers and uses it's own, and IMO the sq is untouchable! If you listen to a lot of music from your N4 (a great output source in itself, x100 with UAPP) I can say pretty confidently that investing in a DAC will greatly increase your enjoyment! :good:
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I hear you on the lack of reviews/info on it being a bad sign, but I'm guessing the vast majority of people have no idea wtf a DAC even is..

ummduh said:
The one I posted says it does charge @2A.
My other question is: What controls the audio volume when you use a DAC?
My biggest issue is even with the volume maxed on my N4, my h/u sees very low input volume, and I have to nearly max out my h/u's volume to get anywhere, which induces a lot of clipping and distortion.. Which is bad.
I hear you on the lack of reviews/info on it being a bad sign, but I'm guessing the vast majority of people have no idea wtf a DAC even is..
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i use a line-driver before i route the audio to my amp to make it sound like a pioneer deck , but that's wit a 3.5 mm to rca plug... imagine with this product.. i'm concerned about overheating because it's constantly charging and i live in phoenix and it's hot as you know what
and viper4android of course

It looks like the charge wiring is separate, you could always switch it on/off as required.
I'm thinking about giving this a go and see what happens. It's still a TON cheaper than replacing my h/u.

ummduh said:
The one I posted says it does charge @2A.
My other question is: What controls the audio volume when you use a DAC?
My biggest issue is even with the volume maxed on my N4, my h/u sees very low input volume, and I have to nearly max out my h/u's volume to get anywhere, which induces a lot of clipping and distortion.. Which is bad.
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Re: volume control, it depends. Some have some kind of volume control on the DAC, but most don't. With most music players you just control the volume as usual from the phone. Usually the output is louder than it would be otherwise, but particularly clarity at high volume. Considering your description, I think you'd notice even more of a benefit from using UAPP - the volume is controlled by a slider on the "now playing" screen (there's a setting to use the physical volume buttons also, but warns that it will drain much more battery) and it can definitely play music louder overall.

gonna try this as well..
Does a USB OTG kernel capable is required for this?
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http://www.amazon.com/iSimple-Charg...e=UTF8&qid=1427909651&sr=8-1&keywords=JamPort
is this the same product? damn cheaper too.

According to the specs on that page, yes, it's the same product; "IS3301".
And thanks for finding it! I'll pick it up and give it a try and post back, eventually.

Well, got it and installed it.
A few things:
1) Was wrong on being able to switch power. If you don't hook up the power wires, the DAC doesn't power up.
2)Won't work on the Note4 with a stock /rooted Tmobile ROM. Just can't do it. Why? No idea. The USB Audio Pro app doesn't work either.
3)DOES WORK and sounds great with both a Nexus 7 (2012) 4.4.4 and an ASUS ME173X., 4.2.2.
4)Even working on those 2 tablets, it pops up a dialog box saying something to the effect of "No apps that are compatible with this device are installed". Still works anyways, every app I tried played properly through it.
5)Audio is basically ON/OFF. If you adjust the audio volume on the tablet it's all or nothing, no in between.
I'd still like to figure out how to get it working on the Note, tethering the tab to my phone is less than elegant, the ME173x tablet is pitifully slow and horribly unresponsive, and it seems Samsung in their infinite wisdom have also removed BT tethering.

Also not working with Note 4 and the canadian 5.0.1 ROM (chenxiaolong). Argh. Going to try some different cabling, possibly a data only cable, I've read some Samsung phones do weird stuff with USBOTG and charging.