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Can we please get one of you talented devs to work on an ics rom for the att note? I'd be willing to donate for your work.
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What part of
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Nope! It belongs to the AT&T Note Forum!
Wrong forum dude:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1493
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N7000 = Non LTE "international" version.
Though he may not be in the right thread
You may notice that his request is that a dev from from the international note forum help make a LTE version.
I'm guessing that since the LTE version just came out, the people over there are eager for some ICS ROMs.
To the OP.
Just be patient, eventually some devs will start making stuff for the CDMA/LTE version. Or as the ICS ROM matures, some devs make both GSM and CDMA versions of their ROMs.
be patient. we might have ics for our note but its not as stable as you think for a daily rom
That's what you get for buying at&t. You knew beforehand it would have worse dev support so don't whine.
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be patient. we might have ics for our note but its not as stable as you think for a daily rom
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I agree. In fact as much as I like to ROM my galaxy nexus, I haven't done my Note yet due to the fact that we don't have (m)any mature ROMs.
I think a lot of the people (on both sides of the fence) are waiting till a more mature, official ICS ROM comes out before we take the plunge.
Right now, I'm just enjoying my phone and not worrying too much about customizations (I have my Nexus to blow up on a daily/weekly basis for that).
Can a mod close this thread This doesnt belong in our forum or the dev section. At&t Galaxy Notes have no ICS leaks. You can hope for CM9, but the At&t crapdragon powered Note is completely different from ours.
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please move
Or you can just sell the crapdragon note and get the intl version. I did the same.
Thanks for those of you that provided constructive feedback. I apologize for breaking the forum rules as my intent was not to offend anyone. I actually started with the international note and sold it for the att version because of the Lte capability. I will just have to be patient and wait. But I will say getting 50mbps download speeds on att Lte network is hard to give up and go back to the international note which is only hspa+ capable.
Thanks again. I really admire you guys and your work.
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I am curious who would like to see a US ONLY CDMA ONLY htc one forum or perhaps sub-forum? I believe it would help organize and separate the US device from the International ones for clarity and ease of forum use.
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I am curious who would like to see a US ONLY htc one forum or perhaps sub-forum? I believe it would help organize and separate the US device from the International ones for clarity and ease of forum use.
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+1 I have to agree.
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Yes definitely. There will be bootloader issues on American devices
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I agree 100 % , separation is needed.
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Yes. I'm a Limey and I'm tired of all you Yanks ... Yanking up the joint
[Q] Who would like to see a US ONLY htc one forum?
I would also agree if the differences are that much of a problem. Ill be getting one from AT&T as a upgrade and if there is significant differences between unlocking and other types of things I don't want to be confused and asking if something works on US version of phone or not.
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Yes. I'm a Limey and I'm tired of all you Yanks ... Yanking up the joint
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Thanks for your feedback. It's going to get really cluttered in this forum if they don't seperate stuff as the US launch is imminent.
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They wouldn't separate the international and us one x+ even tho the ROMs were incompatible so I doubt this one will be separated
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There are loads of other phones that don't have separate forums to distinguish different regions and frequencies....don't recall it being a problem before. ROM developers sorted things out just fine. If this is just because people don't want to have to sort through the different international release dates then that is a bit short sited thinking no?
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There are loads of other phones that don't have separate forums to distinguish different regions and frequencies....don't recall it being a problem before. ROM developers sorted things out just fine. If this is just because people don't want to have to sort through the different international release dates then that is a bit short sited thinking no?
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We had issues in the past in the evo 3d forums where the cdma roms/themes/mods did not work on the gsm version and vice versa. I think it would at least be good to have seperate subforums for US/Carriers so that people dont flash gsm radios by mistake on their cdma versions and brick their phones. If the international version is the same as US T-Mobile and ATT then that can be one subforum with the other being for Verizon (if verizon gets its) and Sprint. So maybe a GSM vs CDMA subforums could work.
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We had issues in the past in the evo 3d forums where the cdma roms/themes/mods did not work on the gsm version and vice versa. I think it would at least be good to have seperate subforums for US/Carriers so that people dont flash gsm radios by mistake on their cdma versions and brick their phones. If the international version is the same as US T-Mobile and ATT then that can be one subforum with the other being for Verizon (if verizon gets its) and Sprint. So maybe a GSM vs CDMA subforums could work.
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Excellent point.
Where do you have the information from that there will be a CDMA version of this phone? Can you link one, please?
Sprint is cdma only, so is Verizon of they get one.
http://www.sprint.com/landings/htco...3:HTC:Tablet&adSelectData=1:Module_HTC_022213
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I don't know when its coming out. I've read next week or may something... link to an article http://goo.gl/2lToZ
I'd suggest waiting till more information about the phone is available. If it is a redesign like the butterfly and DNA then a separate form. Else, i'd vote for a sub forum. Whatever makes most people happy.
I don't care how you do it but it needs to be done, I'm tired of wading through the international topics/discussion just to find the few US relevant info.
Yeah, should definitely happen.
If necessary, you can bring up the forums that have been split to the site managers, like the 2 s3 forums for the different carriers as well as the international s3 being separated from the carrier specific one
You could tell them that its to prevent bricks from flashing roms, which depending on how its set up will most likely be an issue anyway
Basically i agree, +1 on this
I'm all for a subforum! Maybe not necessarily a separate forum, since I think the majority of "discussion" will be pretty unified, as the device itself is similar when not focusing on radios in specific.
Something like this will probably happen in the future. I've seen it for the majority of other devices, at least.
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Where do you have the information from that there will be a CDMA version of this phone? Can you link one, please?
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Right on Sprint's website.
Sprint is a US carrier that ONLY operates on CDMA. Like the EVO 3D, it was EXTREMELY nice to have GSM & CDMA forums separate as flashing stuff on the wrong hardware could brick it in a second.
While having a separate CDMA section might be ok (depending on if the roms are in fact incompatible), I think the AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus & international variants should share the same section.
This forum is dead - What is the more popular Sprint GS4 forum?
EVO3D forum had thousands of threads within the first 3 months. What's going on and where did everyone go?
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This forum is dead - What is the more popular Sprint GS4 forum?
EVO3D forum had thousands of threads within the first 3 months. What's going on and where did everyone go?
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Brace yourself for sarcastic answers & trolls. With that being said, Google
It will blossom. The phone is still so new. I hope it stays clean. There is alot of great devs that have this phone. That being said tons of great stuff Allready out and upcoming. The best part is that everything we have is very stable.
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This forum isn't dead. The phone has been out for literally just over a month and we already have 4 custom TW ROM's and 7 AOSP based ROM's as well as several kernels available as well.
Plus, as time goes on, more and more devs will get their hands on this phone which will make things even more crazy.
Not trying to be a **** here, but honestly, what do you expect......the phone comes out and suddently there are 30 ROM's out for it?
Sometimes it's a good sign - means folks don't have many problems with it and/or it has a decent stock experience requiring less mods.
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Thanks for your useless response. If you don't know how Google works, it crawls discussion boards that allow it to make an index. Most of the private forums are not indexed on Google, so there's no way to find it on that search engine..
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It will blossom. The phone is still so new. I hope it stays clean. There is alot of great devs that have this phone. That being said tons of great stuff Allready out and upcoming. The best part is that everything we have is very stable.
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The sprint version is the least developed of all the carriers. All those roms are carryovers from other GS4 hardware to the Sprint platform. There is not even a way to force roam on our phones yet. This is ridiculous. This is the kind of stuff that comes out during the first week of release for most phones.
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This forum isn't dead. The phone has been out for literally just over a month and we already have 4 custom TW ROM's and 7 AOSP based ROM's as well as several kernels available as well.
Plus, as time goes on, more and more devs will get their hands on this phone which will make things even more crazy.
Not trying to be a **** here, but honestly, what do you expect......the phone comes out and suddently there are 30 ROM's out for it?
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Exactly what happened for the last 4 android phones I've owned.
mjs2011 said:
This forum isn't dead. The phone has been out for literally just over a month and we already have 4 custom TW ROM's and 7 AOSP based ROM's as well as several kernels available as well.
Plus, as time goes on, more and more devs will get their hands on this phone which will make things even more crazy.
Not trying to be a **** here, but honestly, what do you expect......the phone comes out and suddently there are 30 ROM's out for it?
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Well said. This forum already blows away some Motorola/HTC phones that have been out for a long time. Be thankful to have a Samsung and sprint. Dev friendly. My first smart phone was the original. Galaxy s captivate on at&t. It had way too many rom/kernels/ports. It was messy and hard to find stuff. People saying some euro Rom ports wiping efs and borking phone- no good. The e4gt and this phone is much better. No worries.
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This forum is dead - What is the more popular Sprint GS4 forum?
EVO3D forum had thousands of threads within the first 3 months. What's going on and where did everyone go?
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Honestly I was thinking the same thing, but the phone is only a month old. Just give it time....
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""The sprint version is the least developed of all the carriers. All those roms are carryovers from other GS4 hardware to the Sprint platform. There is not even a way to force roam on our phones yet. This is ridiculous. This is the kind of stuff that comes out during the first week of release for most phones.""
Show some respect. Our Roms are not just ports from vzw ect. Blu kuban is built ground up. On the force roam well the roam control dev Has to fix his application. This rant does nothing and it's disrespectful to the great devs and contributors working on this phone.
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Thanks for your useless response. If you don't know how Google works, it crawls discussion boards that allow it to make an index. Most of the private forums are not indexed on Google, so there's no way to find it on that search engine..
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Useless post in a useless thread. I'll give you another taste of my fabulous insight. Any other forum you may find, I would put money down they have the same development (roms, nightlies, mods, recoveries, rooting, debloating, DEVELOPERS & so forth & on & on & on). If you're looking for another Sprint Galaxy S4 forum that's more "hopping & happening", don't you think we would be posting anything & everything we also find, making this forum more "active"?! Here's a concept, show our devs some consideration & be patient. They may act like robots, but they're humans, too :good:
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Exactly what happened for the last 4 android phones I've owned.
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I highly doubt that.
Plus, the stock experience on this phone is pretty fantastic as is, and I've seen at least 2 ROM developers of E4GT ROM's hold off from doing anything and are just enjoying the phone as is.
There's a good chance that a few of your former phones desperately needed some development right off the bat where the anything out for the S4 is pretty much icing on the cake.
the international forum is more popular of course it has always been this way question is answered
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Thanks for your useless response. If you don't know how Google works, it crawls discussion boards that allow it to make an index. Most of the private forums are not indexed on Google, so there's no way to find it on that search engine..
The sprint version is the least developed of all the carriers. All those roms are carryovers from other GS4 hardware to the Sprint platform. There is not even a way to force roam on our phones yet. This is ridiculous. This is the kind of stuff that comes out during the first week of release for most phones.
Exactly what happened for the last 4 android phones I've owned.
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Nobody will say it so I will.Take your self righteous ass on somewhere else.who gives you the right.If you don't like it,develop your own mods
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If this really matters to you, why don't you just go to another carrier like AT&T or T-Mobile?
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Nobody will say it so I will.Take your self righteous ass on somewhere else.who gives you the right.If you don't like it,develop your own mods
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Well said. People like him will never appreciate anything.
Oh, and the Evo3d is the most problematic phone ever as an Evo lineup. No wonder that forum jump start so quickly due to problems.
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I highly doubt that.
Plus, the stock experience on this phone is pretty fantastic as is, and I've seen at least 2 ROM developers of E4GT ROM's hold off from doing anything and are just enjoying the phone as is.
There's a good chance that a few of your former phones desperately needed some development right off the bat where the anything out for the S4 is pretty much icing on the cake.
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I'm here still learning this phone. The images, xmls and mount points for install scripts are completely different from the E4GT. Still trying to learn my way around before I release a ROM.
It's one thing to brick my own phone.
Its another thing to brick someone else's because I don't know what I'm doing yet.
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Nobody will say it so I will.Take your self righteous ass on somewhere else.who gives you the right.If you don't like it,develop your own mods
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I think it wasn't said because it didn't need to be said.
I don't think he said anything against any devs. He was just speaking about lack of devlopement in general. And he is right. That doesn't mean the devs who are putting stuff out aren't good, cause they are.
I see it like this. I don't find as many themed roms as I've seen with some other phones I've had. Even the amount stock based roms that have personal twists to them is infrequent. Mods and things are also on the low side. Not that the quality of the ones we have are low. Just the amount.
I think the developers from Samsung pay attention to what the devs here and elsewhere are putting out and they do a bit of incorporating so the need for some Roms are not needed. The fact that some people bought the One may have sent a few devs over there. Not that the community over there is very big though. Sales are less than half of the S4.
Some new development will be coming with the nexus experience version of the phone so Roms will be on the uptick soon. But I as well think there is a bit of a low turnout for Roms and things this time around. Also as time goes on this is to be expected. As devs figure mods and things out they just incorporate them into other projects without the need for discussion and its not something that is taking up threads everywhere. The devs have grown a lot so to speak and just push things out that work better from the start. So it seems like less is happening sometimes.
Just my take.
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I think there are less here because it is fairly new, and tbh the stock version of it isn't bad at all.
Thanks for that eskomo. I'm not going to reply to those kneejerkers who say "I don't agree and if you don't like it get out rabble rabble rabble"
I have always given proper thanks and respect to all the developers that I have benefited from. However, I am not on trial so I don't have to defend my opinions. Don't tell me where I should or should not post, or what phone/carrier I have your blessing to be on. Thanks, buh bye now.
Also agree on your points of development and customization. For being the biggest/baddest competitor vs the iPhone 5, I see this as a very poor showing of what xda can do with strong hardware. Shame.
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I think it wasn't said because it didn't need to be said.
I don't think he said anything against any devs. He was just speaking about lack of devlopement in general. And he is right. That doesn't mean the devs who are putting stuff out aren't good, cause they are.
I see it like this. I don't find as many themed roms as I've seen with some other phones I've had. Even the amount stock based roms that have personal twists to them is infrequent. Mods and things are also on the low side. Not that the quality of the ones we have are low. Just the amount.
I think the developers from Samsung pay attention to what the devs here and elsewhere are putting out and they do a bit of incorporating so the need for some Roms are not needed. The fact that some people bought the One may have sent a few devs over there. Not that the community over there is very big though. Sales are less than half of the S4.
Some new development will be coming with the nexus experience version of the phone so Roms will be on the uptick soon. But I as well think there is a bit of a low turnout for Roms and things this time around. Also as time goes on this is to be expected. As devs figure mods and things out they just incorporate them into other projects without the need for discussion and its not something that is taking up threads everywhere. The devs have grown a lot so to speak and just push things out that work better from the start. So it seems like less is happening sometimes.
Just my take.
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You don't get it. You seriously don't. People have lives & sorry they aren't working for 24/7 just for you. Get over yourself & gtfo. Do you really think another Sprint S4 forum is going to have more development than this one? Everything we find, we post. If it's out there, it's here. If you aren't happy with how things are going, switch carriers or do more of your own homework on your own time & don't ask for someone else to do it for you. My "useless" post to your useless thread warned you about getting bad hits & trolls & gess what? I was right & you are still here bellyaching.
I don't mean to be rude, but why is there Moto Maxx discussion here? I understand that these phones are nearly identical, but seeing as the thing that makes the Droid Turbo it's own device is that it is stuck inside the constraints of Verizon, I really don't want to come to this forum and see it blowing up with threads about the Moto Maxx and all of the updates and whatnot they are getting in Brazil. If I sound bitter.. I am a bit. You go to a device specific forum to not see things that irrelevant for your device.
TL;DR: Please don't talk about Moto Maxx things in this forum, it's a Droid Turbo Forum. Moderators, please enforce this.
Thanks.
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I don't mean to be rude, but why is there Moto Maxx discussion here? I understand that these phones are nearly identical, but seeing as the thing that makes the Droid Turbo it's own device is that it is stuck inside the constraints of Verizon, I really don't want to come to this forum and see it blowing up with threads about the Moto Maxx and all of the updates and whatnot they are getting in Brazil. If I sound bitter.. I am a bit. You go to a device specific forum to not see things that irrelevant for your device.
TL;DR: Please don't talk about Moto Maxx things in this forum, it's a Droid Turbo Forum. Moderators, please enforce this.
Thanks.
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This subject has already been addressed multiple times. Try browsing the forum a little bit and I'm sure that you'll be able to find the discussion. No need to start a new thread about it
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This subject has already been addressed multiple times. Try browsing the forum a little bit and I'm sure that you'll be able to find the discussion. No need to start a new thread about it
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While you are correct and I should have looked a little harder for that discussion, I would much rather blow up this forum wit multiple threads regarding this topic, than have this forum cluttered with discussion which is ultimately useless to members with the actual "Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo", the titular device of this forum.
Search next time.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3032371
I post here because I thought this was the Moto Maxx forum and they misnamed it Droid Turbo on accident. I was just looking at my Moto Maxx by the way and was thinking "damn, that's one mighty fine device" right before I read this post.
In seriousness you might want to read one of the several threads where this has been hashed out at length. A few key takeaways from that are... while not ideal there are reasons why separating these forums would be detrimental to both device owner groups... this had already been posted both on the official thread where it was seconded a number of times along with the threads started here meaning the moderators and administration of this forum have already seen this complaint and chosen not to act on it either in creating a new separate forum or in stopping Maxx owners posting here.
I would suggest putting your vote in on the previous thread on this as well as visiting the official forum suggestion thread and seconding the request there. Who knows make the wheel squeaky enough and maybe you will hit paydirt.
Because Moto maxx int version of turbo, i think this forum need be re-named or maxx have new área
And then there's the U.S. XT1250 Moto Maxx, which is identical to the Droid Turbo XT1254 (same FCC ID number), works on Verizon and has unlockable boot loader. It's basically the "Developer Edition" of the Droid Turbo.
If any development comes which will benefit the Quark XT1254 (Droid Turbo), it's going to come from the Quark XT1250 (U.S. Moto Maxx) or the Quark XT1225 (international Moto Maxx).
The Droid Turbo XT1254 is just Verizon's locked down XT1250 Moto Maxx.
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And then there's the U.S. XT1250 Moto Maxx, which is identical to the Droid Turbo XT1254 (same FCC ID number), works on Verizon and has unlockable boot loader. It's basically the "Developer Edition" of the Droid Turbo.
If any development comes which will benefit the Quark XT1254 (Droid Turbo), it's going to come from the Quark XT1250 (U.S. Moto Maxx) or the Quark XT1225 (international Moto Maxx).
The Droid Turbo XT1254 is just Verizon's locked down XT1250 Moto Maxx.
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So what?
There are many phones with carrier versions and yet, they at the very least have their own sub forums. This is due to laxness on XDA's part and has nothing to do with FCC numbers or similarities.
adrynalyne said:
So what?
There are many phones with carrier versions and yet, they at the very least have their own sub forums. This is due to laxness on XDA's part and has nothing to do with FCC numbers or similarities.
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Look we can't do anything unless XDA chooses to... Moderators have been to these threads and it has also been posted in the forum request thread and nothing has been done... So until XDA desides to do something about this, we are stuck together!
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Look we can't do anything unless XDA chooses to... Moderators have been to these threads and it has also been posted in the forum request thread and nothing has been done... So until XDA desides to do something about this, we are stuck together!
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I'm aware, but there us no reason for anyone to justify it with FCC ids or anything else. Call it for what it is, indifference on the part of whoever sets up the forums.
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I'm aware, but there us no reason for anyone to justify it with FCC ids or anything else. Call it for what it is, indifference on the part of whoever sets up the forums.
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For this should be quark forum, for all variants
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For this should be quark forum, for all variants
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None of the other forums are structured that way...
Not true, there are several. The latest one I was on was the Find 7a forum which later had the Find 7 added to it making 4 total variants under the same roof since they each had both a Chinese and an international variant. Those handsets had more differences than these do. It isn't a big deal there and it isn't a big deal here. Frankly without the contributions of the entire group that forum would be dead making it ideal for no one. Which pretty much sums up the future of this one as well were it to be divided.
I'm not calling any of you out in particular but right now your "lets kick those pesky Maxx dudes out" thought lhas little logical substance. So far the only reason anyone has come up with for separating it is a segment of one ownership group who feels like they shouldn't have to actually think before clicking a thread. Yes, I'm saying it is obvious by looking at most thread titles whether that thread pertains to a particular device or not. It isn't like anyone would have a bunch of wasted clicks. Further anyone that cares to bother can read the previous threads to see how easy it is to mark thread titles by device if it pertains to only one variant.
Honestly gents, what is your preference, have your own dead forum which you wont bother visiting because to do so would be pointless or dropping the "waaa" line of reasoning and going with what isn't perfect but better than nothing?
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Not true, there are several. The latest one I was on was the Find 7a forum which later had the Find 7 added to it making 4 total variants under the same roof since they each had both a Chinese and an international variant. Those handsets had more differences than these do. It isn't a big deal there and it isn't a big deal here. Frankly without the contributions of the entire group that forum would be dead making it ideal for no one. Which pretty much sums up the future of this one as well were it to be divided.
I'm not calling any of you out in particular but right now your "lets kick those pesky Maxx dudes out" thought lhas little logical substance. So far the only reason anyone has come up with for separating it is a segment of one ownership group who feels like they shouldn't have to actually think before clicking a thread. Yes, I'm saying it is obvious by looking at most thread titles whether that thread pertains to a particular device or not. It isn't like anyone would have a bunch of wasted clicks. Further anyone that cares to bother can read the previous threads to see how easy it is to mark thread titles by device if it pertains to only one variant.
Honestly gents, what is your preference, have your own dead forum which you wont bother visiting because to do so would be pointless or dropping the "waaa" line of reasoning and going with what isn't perfect but better than nothing?
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None of those variants were named by their internal name (like quark), so no they were not. It's not about kicking people out, its about logical organization and right now this forum is a catchall.
adrynalyne said:
None of those variants were named by their internal name (like quark), so no they were not. It's not about kicking people out, its about logical organization and right now this forum is a catchall.
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For over two years now, the Razr HD has had only one development forum for two variants,
XT926, which is the CDMA/Verizon variant, and XT925 , that is the GSM/international version.
The situation is very similar, if not identical than what we have here now with the Turbo/Maxx. The internals are almost exactly the same, save for radio.
Not saying it is ideal, but it has worked so far.
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For over two years now, the Razr HD has had only one development forum for two variants,
XT926, which is the CDMA/Verizon variant, and XT925 , that is the GSM/international version.
The situation is very similar, if not identical than what we have here now with the Turbo/Maxx. The internals are almost exactly the same, save for radio.
Not saying it is ideal, but it has worked so far.
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adrynalyne said:
None of those variants were named by their internal name (like quark), so no they were not. It's not about kicking people out, its about logical organization and right now this forum is a catchall.
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Thats it? You're going to go with "internal names"? lol I have already seen you're incapable of admitting you're wrong and the reason I posted wasn't for your benefit, it was for others that might not be aware that there are reasons why it would be a bad idea. What weighs most important in their mind is up to them and I can respect their opinions just as I respect yours although I think it is short sighted, and poorly thought out.
You are BTW wrong about it being simply a matter of laziness, you used lax but I think I understanding on what you meant? The truth is they cannot administer, monitor, and moderate an unlimited number of forum sections and there can not be one section for every possible device. Go ahead and read up on why that is in the forum faqs as I am thinking you would rather read it from the horses mouth. This is why some devices get no forum at all and there are several that are multiple device combined forums. I've been on two since I've been here myself and another fellow just mentioned one he had been on. They exist and have existed no matter how much you don't want to admit it.
Again, I would suggest you go to the appropriate area up above and second the nomination to separate these devices by whatever means you see fit. I would also suggest you go to the Find 7 section and take a look at just how slow it is despite having the devices combined. While you do so keep in mind that they are less than one year from introduction and started out with developers on board up front and far more posters contributing in the beginning on a stellar device. Note that they added a separate development threads within the section so that people could go directly to their own device development where it was not generic between all of them. Note that people were encouraged to add the device to the thread title when the subject was device specific so that people could quickly skim through it looking for information that is of interest to them.
Split this up and this section dies sooner rather than whatever later ends up being if you keep them together. Maybe you care, maybe you don't. I do care because a perfect forum with no information has less value than an imperfect one that people are contributing in.
I was by the way on the other side last time. The new guys joined us and while I didn't like the arrangement it was better than nothing. There was also less complaining for reasons that I don't know but I am curious as to why this comes up over and over here but was hardly a blip there. Maybe it is the type of people. More US influence here obviously while that one is quite international in nature.
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Thats it? You're going to go with "internal names"? lol I have already seen you're incapable of admitting you're wrong and the reason I posted wasn't for your benefit, it was for others that might not be aware that there are reasons why it would be a bad idea. What weighs most important in their mind is up to them and I can respect their opinions just as I respect yours although I think it is short sighted, and poorly thought out.
You are BTW wrong about it being simply a matter of laziness, you used lax but I think I understanding on what you meant? The truth is they cannot administer, monitor, and moderate an unlimited number of forum sections and there can not be one section for every possible device. Go ahead and read up on why that is in the forum faqs as I am thinking you would rather read it from the horses mouth. This is why some devices get no forum at all and there are several that are multiple device combined forums. I've been on two since I've been here myself and another fellow just mentioned one he had been on. They exist and have existed no matter how much you don't want to admit it.
Again, I would suggest you go to the appropriate area up above and second the nomination to separate these devices by whatever means you see fit. I would also suggest you go to the Find 7 section and take a look at just how slow it is despite having the devices combined. While you do so keep in mind that they are less than one year from introduction and started out with developers on board up front and far more posters contributing in the beginning on a stellar device. Note that they added a separate development threads within the section so that people could go directly to their own device development where it was not generic between all of them. Note that people were encouraged to add the device to the thread title when the subject was device specific so that people could quickly skim through it looking for information that is of interest to them.
Split this up and this section dies sooner rather than whatever later ends up being if you keep them together. Maybe you care, maybe you don't. I do care because a perfect forum with no information has less value than an imperfect one that people are contributing in.
I was by the way on the other side last time. The new guys joined us and while I didn't like the arrangement it was better than nothing. There was also less complaining for reasons that I don't know but I am curious as to why this comes up over and over here but was hardly a blip there. Maybe it is the type of people. More US influence here obviously while that one is quite international in nature.
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Incapable of admitting I am wrong? Of what? Quite the immature comment. Is this some sort of childish competition for you?
No phone here is referred to by internal name. In no situation will it make things clear. In no situation will someone less tech savvy end up in the right forum. I cannot tell you how many times I've seen bricks due to people flashing the wrong firmware for the wrong device. I have my PM inbox on this forum and several others where over the years people have bricked their devices with the wrong firmware and I happened to have a leak that would put them back on the right version. The ONLY reason it hasn't happened in here is that the Turbo is still locked down. If it ever is freed, we will see bricks here unless Maxx users get their own forums, mark my words. Why, you may ask? Well I am glad you did. Because its unlikely we will get a full firmware leak to restore from.
I am wrong about it being laziness? Yes I originally said laxness, for lack of a word to explain their lack of caring, rather than being lazy, LOL.
Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note 4
T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 4
Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note 4
AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4
Samsung Galaxy Note 4
All full forum sets. I can find other examples. Stop huffing and puffing because you think we want Maxx users kicked out. No, I rather the information be separated for logical reasons. It has nothing to do with your ego, nor mine.
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Incapable of admitting I am wrong? Of what? Quite the immature comment. Is this some sort of childish competition for you?
No phone here is referred to by internal name. In no situation will it make things clear. In no situation will someone less tech savvy end up in the right forum. I cannot tell you how many times I've seen bricks due to people flashing the wrong firmware for the wrong device. I have my PM inbox on this forum and several others where over the years people have bricked their devices with the wrong firmware and I happened to have a leak that would put them back on the right version. The ONLY reason it hasn't happened in here is that the Turbo is still locked down. If it ever is freed, we will see bricks here unless Maxx users get their own forums, mark my words. Why, you may ask? Well I am glad you did. Because its unlikely we will get a full firmware leak to restore from.
I am wrong about it being laziness? Yes I originally said laxness, for lack of a word to explain their lack of caring, rather than being lazy, LOL.
Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note 4
T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 4
Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note 4
AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4
Samsung Galaxy Note 4
All full forum sets. I can find other examples. Stop huffing and puffing because you think we want Maxx users kicked out. No, I rather the information be separated for logical reasons. It has nothing to do with your ego, nor mine.
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This is only for device with great sales
matheus_sc said:
This is only for device with great sales
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No it isn't.
This device sells as well as Nexus devices, easily.
Samsung Galaxy S 4 i9500, i9505, i9505G, i9506 if they want to compact it a bit, they could have. Each one has its own developer forum. Same with Nexus devices.
There is no excuse for it. The only other device treated this way is the HTC One M8 for Windows.
I assume this thread will be moved and if it is, then no problem.
I'm coming off of a Galaxy Note 4, whenever my 512 GB Galaxy Note 9 variant actually arrives later this month.
For the GN4, the forums are laid out a little bit differently. The Main GN4 forum and then for carrier specific variants. I also always thought it was confusing how Developer Editions were also lumped into the same areas.
With the GN9, I'm noticing chatter between the two different processors in the same area: Snapdragon and Exynos.
Things like accessories, I'm going to guess, will apply to both models and all carriers, whereas, any "tools" or MODs/ROMs, will not. So, in otherwords, I'll have the T-mobile version, so it'd be nice to see any GN9 accessories and only any compatible ROMs/tools/rooting methods, if applicable. It is to my understanding that such is not possible on this variant...at least, not yet.
That said, any chance the structure of the GN9 area of the forums might be changed up a bit in the future?
Look at the other forums and you will see your answer.
It's mainly to create more clutter and add to the ever increasing confusion that happens here on xda. It's not like the old days where **** got done quickly and answered fast because people had less **** to wade through. Those days are years in then past and never coming back. Get use to the 45 other countries and variants posts to wade through.
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It's mainly to create more clutter and add to the ever increasing confusion that happens here on xda. It's not like the old days where **** got done quickly and answered fast because people had less **** to wade through. Those days are years in then past and never coming back. Get use to the 45 other countries and variants posts to wade through.
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It because most things are the same between the versions (even more so when sperated to Qualcomm and Exynos).
But yeah probably because of your reasons. Which is funny since even with all the "confusion" you're still here, must not be that confusing.
i hope they never ever ever ever split by carrier again. its the most retarded thing ever and it dosent even cover all carriers.
By cpu YES
By carrier NO
carrier split causses
duplicate threads and topics. less visibility for cpu specific questions and so on.
if you have carrier specific comments or irritations etc, take it to your carriers forum so they can acctualy hear about your concerns and maybe do something about it!!
It took a while with the Note 8 and Note 7 to create the carrier specific threads. What the hold up is this year, I don't know.
It was done to help the moderators as the carrier threads rarely seen any action in last few years....Every one posts in the regular threads any ways and it became to much to move it all
bober10113 said:
i hope they never ever ever ever split by carrier again. its the most retarded thing ever and it dosent even cover all carriers.
By cpu YES
By carrier NO
carrier split causses
duplicate threads and topics. less visibility for cpu specific questions and so on.
if you have carrier specific comments or irritations etc, take it to your carriers forum so they can acctualy hear about your concerns and maybe do something about it!!
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I do wish this is how it was By CPU
TheMadScientist said:
I do wish this is how it was By CPU
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make it so #1
JOSHSKORN said:
I assume this thread will be moved and if it is, then no problem.
I'm coming off of a Galaxy Note 4, whenever my 512 GB Galaxy Note 9 variant actually arrives later this month.
For the GN4, the forums are laid out a little bit differently. The Main GN4 forum and then for carrier specific variants. I also always thought it was confusing how Developer Editions were also lumped into the same areas.
With the GN9, I'm noticing chatter between the two different processors in the same area: Snapdragon and Exynos.
Things like accessories, I'm going to guess, will apply to both models and all carriers, whereas, any "tools" or MODs/ROMs, will not. So, in otherwords, I'll have the T-mobile version, so it'd be nice to see any GN9 accessories and only any compatible ROMs/tools/rooting methods, if applicable. It is to my understanding that such is not possible on this variant...at least, not yet.
That said, any chance the structure of the GN9 area of the forums might be changed up a bit in the future?
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With all of the user we now have it makes it harder as their where 2 teams one for international samsungs and one for US carrier...
All the US users started posting in main threads, If something needed to be done from there we had to get a hold of moderators in that area. Now we all work together among all of the sections of samsung... I will leave this thread here as it is a valid discussion,I will make note of separate sections for Snap and EXY But prob not gonna happen at current devices
As to further this it would make sense to do by CPU architecture As all the US now are exactly the same just different firmware This was not always the case Each US carrier tweaked the device to their liking
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It took a while with the Note 8 and Note 7 to create the carrier specific threads. What the hold up is this year, I don't know.
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The S8s and note 8 are the last samsung device to get carrier threads
TheMadScientist said:
With all of the user we now have it makes it harder as their where 2 teams one for international samsungs and one for US carrier...
All the US users started posting in main threads, If something needed to be done from there we had to get a hold of moderators in that area. Now we all work together among all of the sections of samsung... I will leave this thread here as it is a valid discussion,I will make note of separate sections for Snap and EXY But prob not gonna happen at current devices
As to further this it would make sense to do by CPU architecture As all the US now are exactly the same just different firmware This was not always the case Each US carrier tweaked the device to their liking
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I've seen similar discussions on other sites,there's pros & cons either way.
Just about all differences can be cured by using the search feature,regardless of how the device forum is set-up.
I just prefer to read about threads that only pertain to my variant, that's how it is with the GN4 forums. For the most part, Accessories and general discussions are all the same, but obviously rooting and ROM usage differs. The Verizon VN4 forums weren't perfect, because it included the Dev Ed, but root was later obtainable so it ended up being ok. Hopefully the Tmo GN9 at see point gets root but I don't have high hopes. It's just a little frustrating having all of these non Tmo threads dangling in my face, talking about root. I feel like a hungry dog being denied a bone. Lol
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TheMadScientist said:
The S8s and note 8 are the last samsung device to get carrier threads
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woohoo!
KOLIOSIS said:
I've seen similar discussions on other sites,there's pros & cons either way.
Just about all differences can be cured by using the search feature,regardless of how the device forum is set-up.
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exactly
JOSHSKORN said:
I just prefer to read about threads that only pertain to my variant, that's how it is with the GN4 forums. For the most part, Accessories and general discussions are all the same, but obviously rooting and ROM usage differs. The Verizon VN4 forums weren't perfect, because it included the Dev Ed, but root was later obtainable so it ended up being ok. Hopefully the Tmo GN9 at see point gets root but I don't have high hopes. It's just a little frustrating having all of these non Tmo threads dangling in my face, talking about root. I feel like a hungry dog being denied a bone. Lol
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That too I have a S8 snap so locked bootloader and all these wonderful rom
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I just prefer to read about threads that only pertain to my variant, that's how it is with the GN4 forums. For the most part, Accessories and general discussions are all the same, but obviously rooting and ROM usage differs. The Verizon VN4 forums weren't perfect, because it included the Dev Ed, but root was later obtainable so it ended up being ok. Hopefully the Tmo GN9 at see point gets root but I don't have high hopes. It's just a little frustrating having all of these non Tmo threads dangling in my face, talking about root. I feel like a hungry dog being denied a bone. Lol
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are you aware that US carriers all have snapdragon chip for a while now. When and if root comes, it won't be for a specific carrier but for that snapdragon cpu.
the threads you are reading are from the exynos cpu variant. the quicker you realise this the quicker you will turn from an animal to a sentient being...
I sort of know how that works. VZW had a bootloader lock, that was exploited by a CID, I think. Can't remember the rest of the root process, it's been awhile. So now that I'm on Tmo, I assume there could be carrier related locks on the bootloader as well, much less anything related to snapdragon.
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are you aware that US carriers all have snapdragon chip for a while now. When and if root comes, it won't be for a specific carrier but for that snapdragon cpu.
the threads you are reading are from the exynos cpu variant. the quicker you realise this the quicker you will turn from an animal to a sentient being...
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I sort of know how that works. VZW had a bootloader lock, that was exploited by a CID, I think. Can't remember the rest of the root process, it's been awhile. So now that I'm on Tmo, I assume there could be carrier related locks on the bootloader as well, much less anything related to snapdragon.
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I remember the cid root my S5 i think was like that I had one that could be rooted and one that couldnt
I still got the rooted one needs a screen
it had safestrap bootloader is still locked but their are a couple stock based roms but no aosp or such If im not mistaken Been a long time
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I sort of know how that works. VZW had a bootloader lock, that was exploited by a CID, I think. Can't remember the rest of the root process, it's been awhile. So now that I'm on Tmo, I assume there could be carrier related locks on the bootloader as well, much less anything related to snapdragon.
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on recent modern time devices its pretty much how i described it.