Questions about current ROMS. - T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I was looking for a minimalistic ROM that resembles stock android and removes TW but, I get confused when developers mention that their ROM is close to stock.
Can anyone clarify for me please?

You will not find any rom right now that will remove TW. And that will never happen unless AOSP gets here.
When they say it is close to stock all they are saying is it is pretty much what came with the phone when bought brandnew with some modification here and there...perhaps enabling features that are shut up (like toggles), making it faster with tweaks, better batteries...same stock themes, etc.

As of right now you will just have to use a Launcher like Nova etc...
Why do you want TW removed?
Technobuffalos said:
I was looking for a minimalistic ROM that resembles stock android and removes TW but, I get confused when developers mention that their ROM is close to stock.
Can anyone clarify for me please?
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iunlock said:
As of right now you will just have to use a Launcher like Nova etc...
Why do you want TW removed?
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Well, I personally hate bloated UIs. even running the firekat v3 ROM at the moment, I feel that when I was running cyanogenmod on my note 3, it was the most fluid smartphone experiece I have ever had. Stock android kitkat was miles ahead of the raw speed I was getting from stock. My biggest issue with TW is the fact that there are useless gestures like svoice and flipboard wheras I perfer google now and google newsstand, and there is no way to disable the bloat in TW.

Technobuffalos said:
Well, I personally hate bloated UIs. even running the firekat v3 ROM at the moment, I feel that when I was running cyanogenmod on my note 3, it was the most fluid smartphone experiece I have ever had. Stock android kitkat was miles ahead of the raw speed I was getting from stock. My biggest issue with TW is the fact that there are useless gestures like svoice and flipboard wheras I perfer google now and google newsstand, and there is no way to disable the bloat in TW.
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Use Titanium backup to freeze stuff you do not like, S voice or whatever. Use another launcher like Google Launcher as default. You can freeze or hide many Samsung annoying features. Like the Clock I hate because it does not have the Dismiss Alarm in the notification like Nexus 5 so I froze Samsung one and loaded the apk for the Android version. Also hate the Samsung Calendar so froze that and downloaded Google one from Play store.

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[Q] putting stock google rom on my galaxy

Hey, this is my first time posting, I've been browsing a bit since I got my galaxy. I cant really find an answer to what I'm looking for.
I'm not a big fan of samsung's UI on my galaxy, I'd much prefer the Android 2.1 stock that comes on the nexus one... no fancy stuff. Just basic... How would I go abouts doing this? I'm totally new to this, I know I'd have to root my device, after that I'm lost.
Thanks A lot!
Some guys have created a stock Android ROM for the SGS, but it's not fully functional, no camera and no video.
Android can run on many devices (even iPhone and Palm) but the problem are the drivers. If there's no driver, you'll find yourself without camera, wifi, GPS or whatever, and possibly the battery use will be greater.
Yep, there was a vanilla rom but nothing worked, pointless for everyday use.
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So what would be your recommendation for a rom? seeing as they're are so many out there.
there are a couple of ROMS in the dev section without the touchwiz launcher
example:
[ROM]Rombie v2a -*I9000XXJPH*- Themed|no TouchWiz|Pre-Rooted|
personally i have never used one so i can't give any feedback on the matter. if you dont want to mess around too much you could always use a launcher like ADWlauncher or LauncherPro, these basically reskin the home screens to a more likeable layout (by many), there is even a home replacement called launcher2 i think, which looks very basic.
I'm looking for something similar. I'm already rooted, unlocked and running ADW, but I just can't cope with Samsung's stock phone and sms apps. They're truly bloody awful.
all i can say is: wait for http://www.cyanogenmod.com/ ...
it's great and it can not take very long any more (i hope)
Silversurfmonkey said:
I'm looking for something similar. I'm already rooted, unlocked and running ADW, but I just can't cope with Samsung's stock phone and sms apps. They're truly bloody awful.
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You can say that again the sms app is a complete fail!!!
I don't mind the dialer so much. but the rest of touchwiz and the widgets is a waste of space..

[Q] Does AOSP mean that I lose all the sammy apps and s-pen functions?

Hey guys, I'm still wading through Android 101 so sorry if this is a noob question. I really want to go onto a tablet based ROM but I don't want to lose any stuff either (if I even do). Can someone enlighten me?
You will lose touchwiz and everything that requires touchwiz like the "S suite". But there are alternative apps available..
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sujal said:
You will lose touchwiz and everything that requires touchwiz like the "S suite". But there are alternative apps available..
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The stylus still works just as well, but the button doesn´t work, and neither do any of the shortcuts. You can replace all the apps, but you can´t get the note taking ability built into the interface (you can´t simply open a note anywhere, or screenshot and annotate). So if note taking is your main attraction, then you are probably best off sticking to Touchwiz based roms or stock. Otherwise, I think AOSP has much more to offer than touchwiz does.

Any Custom ROMs able to rival Touchwiz features?

I have my eye on the Note 4 but I still don't like Touchwiz and prefer to run Android 5 or Cyanogen when it becomes available. I'm afraid I'll lose a lot of the features you'd only get through Touchwiz such as:
1) Fingerprint reader
2) S Pen functionality and apps
3) Use of the health sensors
For those of you who had a Note 3 and ran on custom ROMs did you miss any of the features above?
re: CM/AOSP roms
teknx said:
I have my eye on the Note 4 but I still don't like Touchwiz and prefer to run Android 5 or Cyanogen when it becomes available. I'm afraid I'll lose a lot of the features you'd only get through Touchwiz such as:
1) Fingerprint reader
2) S Pen functionality and apps
3) Use of the health sensors
For those of you who had a Note 3 and ran on custom ROMs did you miss any of the features above?
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You forgot "no wifi calling", "no ir remote not working", "very inferior camera/camcorder",
"most of the smart features don't work" and many other features/options don't work or
inferior compared to Touchwiz roms.
Two of the things you are asking about are embedded in touchwiz framework, and the other one, spen...I wont really call it spen functionality but there are apps you can use with your spen (like any other stylus can). Those same can be used on touchwiz.
Hope that answers your question!
Misterjunky said:
You forgot "no wifi calling", "no ir remote not working", "very inferior camera/camcorder",
"most of the smart features don't work" and many other features/options don't work or
inferior compared to Touchwiz roms.
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The IR blaster still works, you just need a 3'rd party app. (At least if its anything like my Galaxy S5). I hated Samsung's app for the IR blaster so I downloaded another one. To answer OP's question, its a drivers issue. That being said, there are some GREAT touchwiz based roms for my S5 that have stripped down bloatware and replaced the launcher. You can still get a great experience with touchwiz features, as long as you are willing to do some tweaking. In my experience, the Samsung phones get the most custom roms of any devices.
Misterjunky said:
You forgot "no wifi calling", "no ir remote not working", "very inferior camera/camcorder",
"most of the smart features don't work" and many other features/options don't work or
inferior compared to Touchwiz roms.
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Wow. It's worse than I thought. I guess the best option to have the best of both worlds is just keep Touchwiz and get a different launcher if I want to change up the home screen.
Problem with that is, it will still be Touchwiz underneath..
teknx said:
Wow. It's worse than I thought. I guess the best option to have the best of both worlds is just keep Touchwiz and get a different launcher if I want to change up the home screen.
Problem with that is, it will still be Touchwiz underneath..
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Whats the sense in getting a samsung if you do not want a touchwiz? just wait for the nexus 6
mgbotoe said:
Whats the sense in getting a samsung if you do not want a touchwiz? just wait for the nexus 6
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Exactly. I never understood the reasoning for putting that crap CM on a Note device - especially the 4. What's the point? Buy a Nexus or some other inferior device.
Wow. It's worse than I thought. I guess the best option to have the best of both worlds is just keep Touchwiz and get a different launcher if I want to change up the home screen.
Problem with that is, it will still be Touchwiz underneath..
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What's the point. Either you like TW or you don't. I run Nova Prime on my Note 4 simply because I want more screen real estate. I prefer the underlying features of TW to any other launcher out and would prefer ANYTHING to stock Android or CM.
dkb218 said:
Exactly. I never understood the reasoning for putting that crap CM on a Note device - especially the 4. What's the point? Buy a Nexus or some other inferior device.
What's the point. Either you like TW or you don't. I run Nova Prime on my Note 4 simply because I want more screen real estate. I prefer the underlying features of TW to any other launcher out and would prefer ANYTHING to stock Android or CM.
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Well me personally I just like to have it at times but I KNOW what I'm leaving behind. If you like both why not? Just don't get how people complain about it than get it..I mean TouchWiz lag but.im willing to put in the effort to make it better cause I like what it offer
Aren't there custom TW roms that have little lag? I seen a Note 3 one, that's the only problem with TW in my opinion
mgbotoe said:
Whats the sense in getting a samsung if you do not want a touchwiz? just wait for the nexus 6
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1. To wait for AOSP and actually use this beastly processor
2. Because we waited for the Nexus 6 and it was never announced, until 1 day after the Note 4 came home with me.
I love your Minions Rom, had it on my note 3 for a long while .
re: touchwiz launcher
teknx said:
Wow. It's worse than I thought. I guess the best option to have the best of both worlds is just keep Touchwiz and get a different launcher if I want to change up the home screen.
Problem with that is, it will still be Touchwiz underneath..
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Yes, that's the best idea, just get a good launcher from the play store.
I use the Next Launcher 3D, most people don't want to shell out $15
for a launcher but I did and found it to be excellent.
But there are plenty of free and almost free launchers that you can
download/install from the play store and many of them are very good.
(all of them a lot better than any touchwiz launcher)
Good luck!
I remember the G1. That phone lagged. And by lag I mean press the Contacts icon and 5 seconds later it starts to open.
I wouldn't call what TW does lag. I'd call it at most at half a hiccup.
{This instant gratification society we live in.}
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mgbotoe said:
Well me personally I just like to have it at times but I KNOW what I'm leaving behind. If you like both why not? Just don't get how people complain about it than get it..I mean TouchWiz lag but.im willing to put in the effort to make it better cause I like what it offer
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Perhaps some people will need to setup a "dual boot" system,
one being touchwiz and the other for cm/aosp. LOL
devynbf said:
1. To wait for AOSP and actually use this beastly processor
2. Because we waited for the Nexus 6 and it was never announced, until 1 day after the Note 4 came home with me.
I love your Minions Rom, had it on my note 3 for a long while .
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Lol im just wondering cause it seem like he dont have the note 4 yet, we know the nexus is BEAST, like would make sense for him to get it if he hate samsung that much.
And I'm glad! Do you mean the Gs4 though?
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Misterjunky said:
Perhaps some people will need to setup a "dual boot" system,
one being touchwiz and the other for cm/aosp. LOL
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That would be nice, wont happen anytime soon though loool
dkb218 said:
I remember the G1. That phone lagged. And by lag I mean press the Contacts icon and 5 seconds later it starts to open.
I wouldn't call what TW does lag. I'd call it at most at half a hiccup.
{This instant gratification society we live in.}
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Ahhh the memories of the G1. That was my baby
mgbotoe said:
Lol im just wondering cause it seem like he dont have the note 4 yet, we know the nexus is BEAST, like would make sense for him to get it if he hate samsung that much.
And I'm glad! Do you mean the Gs4 though?
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That would be nice, wont happen anytime soon though loool
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Yea I guess i do mean s4. Boy it's been a while haha.
What you want is a looks customizable, slimmed down and streamlined stable touchwiz based Rom... plenty will be made with the line up of promised developers. Be patient.
You take away touchwiz, you take away note specific features. They are irreversibly intertwined. Personally I love a debloated and tweaked touchwiz rom... but on the Note 4 I don't even see the need yet on stock touchwiz with bloatware "disabled", if you don't like the looks, get a launcher/customizable home.

Aosp Roms

Hey guys. I searched for some answers but came up empty handed. My question is how come we don't have any aosp Roms yet? Are there any in the works? Is there something particular holding back their development? Just got my note 5 recently and trying to catch up on the development here.
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Sadly this is why : http://www.xda-developers.com/samsung-exynos-and-aosp-explained-a-story-of-betrayal/
Even if Samsung opens up it's too late as many of the talented people have long gone. Also with Samsung making TW less bloaty (With built in theme support) and Xposed you really don't need a AOSP rom much anymore.
Thanks for sharing. That's a bummer I looked but didn't come up on that article. I just prefer an aosp rom option. I usually nand my favorite tw and favorite aosp Roms to switch up when I'm bored
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Get the Nexus 6P for AOSP
rawdaddymagraden said:
Thanks for sharing. That's a bummer I looked but didn't come up on that article. I just prefer an aosp rom option. I usually nand my favorite tw and favorite aosp Roms to switch up when I'm bored
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The only downside to the Note 5 imho is the ****ty multi tasking/ram issue. I've tried all the build.prop and kernel fixes but non of them seem to work for me. I usually have more than 6 apps running in the background like titanium backup,cool tools,dreamlab,daemon sync,Google Photos and a bunch of other stuff that I NEED and the damn Note 5 keeps on killing them proccesses. I know it's certainly TW doing it as I have the exact same apps running on my LG G Pro 2 and it doesn't randomly kill tasks.
Anyhoo that's just my rant on the only thing I hate about this device, Otherwise I actually like it a lot.
I wish it was that easy. I used my two Jumps this year, first on the g4 which I hated and the second on this. I don't have another till july. But I am thoroughly happy with this phone just wish I had the option to use aosp as it is updated and waiting for Samsung to update is pain staking.
idle0095 said:
Get the Nexus 6P for AOSP
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ickyboo said:
The only downside to the Note 5 imho is the ****ty multi tasking/ram issue. I've tried all the build.prop and kernel fixes but non of them seem to work for me. I usually have more than 6 apps running in the background like titanium backup,cool tools,dreamlab,daemon sync,Google Photos and a bunch of other stuff that I NEED and the damn Note 5 keeps on killing them proccesses. I know it's certainly TW doing it as I have the exact same apps running on my LG G Pro 2 and it doesn't randomly kill tasks.
Anyhoo that's just my rant on the only thing I hate about this device, Otherwise I actually like it a lot.
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I don't have this issue or I guess it doesn't affect me for what I use my phone for. Not sure
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Maybe I'm just a hardcore user as I notice most people don't have their phones as customized and set up as mine. I'm guessing Samsung has optimized the S6/Note5 for 99% of the other normal users who don't multitask much.
download a kernel and lower the lmk
ickyboo said:
The only downside to the Note 5 imho is the ****ty multi tasking/ram issue. I've tried all the build.prop and kernel fixes but non of them seem to work for me. I usually have more than 6 apps running in the background like titanium backup,cool tools,dreamlab,daemon sync,Google Photos and a bunch of other stuff that I NEED and the damn Note 5 keeps on killing them proccesses. I know it's certainly TW doing it as I have the exact same apps running on my LG G Pro 2 and it doesn't randomly kill tasks.
Anyhoo that's just my rant on the only thing I hate about this device, Otherwise I actually like it a lot.
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i also Have a Nexus 6 and its the same, in fact, none of my Android phones has actually keep programs open in background for long period, no matter wich Rom i use. After while it needs to reopen the app

Samsung rom on Nexus 6

Okey guys, please dont kill me for this question, I already know that im going straight to hell for this.
Since this week im a (sometimes) happy nexus 6 owner. Before N6 i had S5, S6 and Note 3. Now i cant get used to the stock rom, it is not made for me and im missing some Samsungcrap like making a folder inside app drawer, seeing on what type of data connection im online, having some lag and out of nowhere reboots, be able to modify haptic feedback sentivity, ****-up knox, be able to reset all recent used apps and other ****ty stuff.
Now i like the hardware of the N6 like the bigass display, stereo speakers, cpu und ze fast charging time.
Oh yeah, back to my question aka TL;DR:
Is there, somewhere in the forbidden dark place of the internet, a Samsung rom for the Nexus 6?
Thank you in advance
Edit: I know that there are some apps that can help me out but i dont want to have tons of apps. I just want to know if there is a Samsung rom.
no, and there wont be.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKHq-mAEQlU
Genna7 said:
Okey guys, please dont kill me for this question, I already know that im going straight to hell for this.
Since this week im a (sometimes) happy nexus 6 owner. Before N6 i had S5, S6 and Note 3. Now i cant get used to the stock rom, it is not made for me and im missing some Samsungcrap like making a folder inside app drawer, seeing on what type of data connection im online, having some lag and out of nowhere reboots, be able to modify haptic feedback sentivity, ****-up knox, be able to reset all recent used apps and other ****ty stuff.
Now i like the hardware of the N6 like the bigass display, stereo speakers, cpu und ze fast charging time.
Oh yeah, back to my question aka TL;DR:
Is there, somewhere in the forbidden dark place of the internet, a Samsung rom for the Nexus 6?
Thank you in advance
Edit: I know that there are some apps that can help me out but i dont want to have tons of apps. I just want to know if there is a Samsung rom.
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You should be able to find an installable Touchwiz launcher that will work on the Nexus 6. That's about is close as you'll get. Haptic feedback adjustment is a kernel feature AFAIK, I know most of the ones I have used had that available in Kernel Adiuter under misc controls.
Based on what you say you want, a Samsung Galaxy Note is for you. The Nexus 6 is designed for a pure experience --if that isn't what you want, you should sell it and buy what gives you the things you like about the Nexus (the size) with the interface of the Samsung.
With no disrespect, the Samsung experience is the complete antithesis of why people buy a Nexus. As people buy a Nexus to get away from Samsung's TouchWiz, HTC's Sense, and all of these other overlays, you're just not going to find that sort of thing.
Genna7 said:
Okey guys, please dont kill me for this question, I already know that im going straight to hell for this.
Since this week im a (sometimes) happy nexus 6 owner. Before N6 i had S5, S6 and Note 3. Now i cant get used to the stock rom, it is not made for me and im missing some Samsungcrap like making a folder inside app drawer, seeing on what type of data connection im online, having some lag and out of nowhere reboots, be able to modify haptic feedback sentivity, ****-up knox, be able to reset all recent used apps and other ****ty stuff.
Now i like the hardware of the N6 like the bigass display, stereo speakers, cpu und ze fast charging time.
Oh yeah, back to my question aka TL;DR:
Is there, somewhere in the forbidden dark place of the internet, a Samsung rom for the Nexus 6?
Thank you in advance
Edit: I know that there are some apps that can help me out but i dont want to have tons of apps. I just want to know if there is a Samsung rom.
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The settings you said are more or less in cyanogenmod, and you can always use a TW launcher. If it's not enough, then you really should by a Samsung phone.
I was a Samsung user for years, I don't have anything really against TW, I never complained about the lag. When the warranty period was over for my Note 3, I've installed cyanogenmod, and never went back. Now I'm running my own pure AOSP rom, experimenting with ideas for modification.
So if you give it some time, you might even get to love the pure Android feeling. But some people can't and there's no shame in going back. The Note 4 n910F has basically the same hardware, the same resolution and almost as big a screen.
istperson said:
The settings you said are more or less in cyanogenmod, and you can always use a TW launcher. If it's not enough, then you really should by a Samsung phone.
I was a Samsung user for years, I don't have anything really against TW, I never complained about the lag. When the warranty period was over for my Note 3, I've installed cyanogenmod, and never went back. Now I'm running my own pure AOSP rom, experimenting with ideas for modification.
So if you give it some time, you might even get to love the pure Android feeling. But some people can't and there's no shame in going back. The Note 4 n910F has basically the same hardware, the same resolution and almost as big a screen.
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Thank you for your comment, it makes me think.
I will try to get used to it, otherwise im going for a Note 4.

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