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[Q] Time to upgrade........

OK, its time to upgrade my trusty DHD.....
...but what gets my hard-earned (no, really) pennies?
To me there are 4 options........
1) HTC One X
2) Samsung Galaxy Note
3) Wait until the 30th and get the Samsung Galaxy SIII
4) Keep the DHD for another 12 months and benefit from a cheaper contract.
So, if it was your pennies getting spent, where would they be going?
I'm looking for views from existing SGN users here. Do you love the Note? Hate it? What do you like most about it, and what drives you potty?
Thanks in advance for your comments.
Rob

I love my note. It's definitely my favorite phone out of the 8 smartphones I've owned (iPhone 2G, 3G, 3GS, 4, HTC Sensation, Samsung Vibrant, LG G2X). The downside? It is the most disappointing phone development wise. There doesn't seem to be any good ROM out there. Stock is painfully slow. There is no CM7 which is really disappointing. Any of the ICS I've seen out has had major problems which is why I haven't upgraded yet. There are horror stories about people bring their phones when upgrading to ICS and so far it doesn't seem to be a small number of people which is really sad. Samsung is JUST rolling out ICS now but I've heard stock ICS is also very slow and if you have CWM on or from what I understand have rooted your phone at all, you run a huge risk of bricking if you try put ICS on.
TL DR; If you don't mind staying stock for a WHILE, get the Note because it's awesome having a huge screen, resolution, and the SPen.
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I love my note. It's definitely my favorite phone out of the 8 smartphones I've owned (iPhone 2G, 3G, 3GS, 4, HTC Sensation, Samsung Vibrant, LG G2X). The downside? It is the most disappointing phone development wise. There doesn't seem to be any good ROM out there. Stock is painfully slow. There is no CM7 which is really disappointing. Any of the ICS I've seen out has had major problems which is why I haven't upgraded yet. There are horror stories about people bring their phones when upgrading to ICS and so far it doesn't seem to be a small number of people which is really sad. Samsung is JUST rolling out ICS now but I've heard stock ICS is also very slow and if you have CWM on or from what I understand have rooted your phone at all, you run a huge risk of bricking if you try put ICS on.
TL DR; If you don't mind staying stock for a WHILE, get the Note because it's awesome having a huge screen, resolution, and the SPen.
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Exactly my thoughts! Thanks for saving me the trouble of typing. I am lazy as hell.
I flashed tons of ROMs and back to stock. At least I won't be bricking my phone this way.
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To the OP: If I were you, I would get the One X or the S3, depending on the needs. Like I need the sd card and removable battery so it would rather be the S3 for me. Assuming you haven't used the note for long, both these phones must feel great to you. For almost all of us here, they are just too darn small. Once you use a note, you just get addicted to it.
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Thanks guys. Keep them coming.
I played with the Note and the HOX today and liked them both, but the huge Note battery is drawing me towards it.
I'm 6'1" and have hands like pan-shovels so the size of the Note isnt a -ve to me.

love mine too!
Yeah loving the bigger screen. I'd never go back to something smaller.
On a different note.. (haha) had mine a month and have rooted and switched the rom and Kernel.. wasn't very hard just had to get over the mind set of bricking it.
Buy one!

Note, large screen, s-pen apps (if you're inclined to use them), some good roms, ICS development with the new builds should be on their way soon
the rest? S3, rather than 1x. or at least wait till reviews come out comparing the 2.

wait
wait for Galaxy S3 - I allready have it and It's awsome!!!

RobTheRover said:
OK, its time to upgrade my trusty DHD.....
...but what gets my hard-earned (no, really) pennies?
To me there are 4 options........
1) HTC One X
2) Samsung Galaxy Note
3) Wait until the 30th and get the Samsung Galaxy SIII
4) Keep the DHD for another 12 months and benefit from a cheaper contract.
So, if it was your pennies getting spent, where would they be going?
I'm looking for views from existing SGN users here. Do you love the Note? Hate it? What do you like most about it, and what drives you potty?
Thanks in advance for your comments.
Rob
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The Note is fabulous - better than the GNex I came from. Why? The screen principally - the Galaxy nexus screen just seemed so small compared!
I think the answer is this:
1. If you want the latest tech - go for the One X or the S3.
2. However, as it's so early in their life cycle you don't know what problems they will have (other than we already know the OneX has cr*p battery life) and we all know that no phone is perfect. Each phone I've had (and I've had a few) has had it's own unique issue.
3. If screen size is important, forget the other two and go for the Note. There is just simply no question of that (until Note II is announced in future!)
Maybe quad core will be a bit faster than dual core but I doubt it will make much of a difference in everyday use. In any event, I hate TW / Sense etc so always remove that bloatware and, hey presto, android flies on the Note (not that it was sluggish with TW).
And the lack of reliable ICS at the moment? In the words of Catherine Tate (look her up if you're not British!) - am I bovvered? There's such a clamour for it and, yes, it's a bit prettier and more logical in places but GB is absolutely fine for 99.98%.
Just my £0.02. Good luck with the decision.
Edit: Just seen that you're a brit - no need to look up Catherine Tate! More importantly, just realised you've got a DHD. Move on, you won't be disappointed. Sure, tech will move on over the next few monts, years etc but it always does.

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In the words of Catherine Tate (look her up if you're not British!) - am I bovvered?
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We Americans also know who Catherine Tate is, and not just because she's on our version of The Office now
Clicked as soon as you said "am I bovvered?".

Go for the Note,mate. You won't regret it
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apd said:
The Note is fabulous - better than the GNex I came from. Why? The screen principally - the Galaxy nexus screen just seemed so small compared!
I think the answer is this:
1. If you want the latest tech - go for the One X or the S3.
2. However, as it's so early in their life cycle you don't know what problems they will have (other than we already know the OneX has cr*p battery life) and we all know that no phone is perfect. Each phone I've had (and I've had a few) has had it's own unique issue.
3. If screen size is important, forget the other two and go for the Note. There is just simply no question of that (until Note II is announced in future!)
Maybe quad core will be a bit faster than dual core but I doubt it will make much of a difference in everyday use. In any event, I hate TW / Sense etc so always remove that bloatware and, hey presto, android flies on the Note (not that it was sluggish with TW).
And the lack of reliable ICS at the moment? In the words of Catherine Tate (look her up if you're not British!) - am I bovvered? There's such a clamour for it and, yes, it's a bit prettier and more logical in places but GB is absolutely fine for 99.98%.
Just my £0.02. Good luck with the decision.
Edit: Just seen that you're a brit - no need to look up Catherine Tate! More importantly, just realised you've got a DHD. Move on, you won't be disappointed. Sure, tech will move on over the next few monts, years etc but it always does.
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Thanks for that. I agree with your assessment, especially ICS which is definitely leaving me underwhelmed in terms of how "un-different" (new word!) it is to GB, especially after having used Honeycomb on my tablet for the past 6 months.
I've decided (with a feeling of I'm cheating on a loved one) to get a Note online, then I can return it under distance selling laws if I find it unbearable to live with. I suspect it wont be going back.
Genuinely, many thanks to all who have contributed to this thread. Your insight has been much appreciated.
Rob

I love the large screen and battery of the Note.
The S3 is more future proof, but only because of the processors. RAM is the same.
One thing in the s3's favor is the LED notification light! w00t! I have been missing this on EVERY device that wasn't a blackberry!
The s3 also has a large battery, but .. the Note takes the cake.
The One X is out of the picture. Why? Removable battery. Also, they pushed the device so fast to get it out on the market as one of the first quadcore devices that ... well, to me it doesn't seem that attractive. The s3 on the other hand looks mighty fine!
The Note is awesome for its screen and battery size (as well as the S-Pen).
It's really your call... Sometimes I wish my note were a tiny bit smaller, but I don't regret it when I'm actually using it! hehe.

I upgraded from DHD to galaxy note and can say it was the upgrade. Absolutely amazing display over DHD, much better battery life, faster, smoother, much better camera, etc. When I look back now to already my wife's DHD, it seems to be a nice small phone ... Was able to replace most of work on my laptop with note thanks to Swype ...
I have both on stock ROM, didn't find need to go for ICS on my note. Everything is working flawlessly, maybe will change my mind half year later when there will be more positive reaction from community ... my few cents .
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One thing that's driving me mad is the sluggishness of the stock Gingerbread ROM. Is the official ICS ROM still sluggish?
If so, would rooting the phone and deleting some of the bloat help? Also, is it possible to remove Touchwiz from the official ROM? I'm a bit scared to try any other ROMs in case I brick my phone.

I've had my note since november and I love it!! The huge screen is so much fun and great to surf the web!!! It doesn't feel bigger in my pocket than my previous phone (iPhone). Even though it has a huge screen the battery life is really good (especially with my actual rom Criskelo)
I haven't tried the other phones you posted but I am still trying to understand why anyone would need a quadcore in his phone today!! I installed spy cpu on my SGN and my CPU almost never rises to 1400MHz so what could anyone do with the extra power maybe 3D games since I don't play any so can't tell about the performances but I doubt it since the note still has one of the best processors out there! The games I play are: solitaire, temple run, fruit ninja,...
joyork said:
One thing that's driving me mad is the sluggishness of the stock Gingerbread ROM. Is the official ICS ROM still sluggish?
If so, would rooting the phone and deleting some of the bloat help? Also, is it possible to remove Touchwiz from the official ROM? I'm a bit scared to try any other ROMs in case I brick my phone.
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I don't really notice the sluggishness, everything seems smooth!! The rom I am using is lighter than the stock rom so there may be a difference! If you wan't to remove Touchwiz you'd better install a new rom on your phone would be easier than to modify the stock rom! In either case you need to root your phone! At first didn't want to do it but in the end I am happy and giving some good feedback about the rom I am using! And the bricking is pretty rare!!
To install a new rom if you literally follow instructions you can't run into problems!! A bit of research and in the end it just takes 10/15min to change rom!

joyork said:
One thing that's driving me mad is the sluggishness of the stock Gingerbread ROM. Is the official ICS ROM still sluggish?
If so, would rooting the phone and deleting some of the bloat help? Also, is it possible to remove Touchwiz from the official ROM? I'm a bit scared to try any other ROMs in case I brick my phone.
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That's an easy one. Root and install one of the stock rooted GB Roms. No need to 'remove' TW. Just install another launcher (let's not start the 'which launcher is best' argument here) and then set that as default. TW will fade into the background and won't be used and your Note will be faster.
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zkyevolved said:
The s3 also has a large battery, but .. the Note takes the cake.
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Only 2100mah I think? Not that big - nearly 20% smaller than the Note.

2) Samsung Galaxy Note

Trading my galaxy nexus for a Note

A friend of mine gives me the possibility to trade my galaxy nexus for his galaly note, I like the display and the s pen but I would lost the "nexus" support...I can't decide,what would you do?
p.s. with the galaxy nexus i can get 3h 30min of screen on,what about note?

@BurningKoala I had GNexus for some time (app developing) and it's a great phone, but I'm glad I chose the Note over it.
Disadvantages are SO & Hardware optimization (Note's fast and reliable but nothing rivals Nexus) and, maybe, size. If you are considering the Note, size might not be a problem to you. The huge screen is also it's main advantage; for navigation or reading it's just a BIG jump. I really enjoy it. There's a reason why new phones are getting near the Note's screen size...
About battery, it's not as good as the Note II but comparable to that of the GNexus. You'll get trough the day with a lot of use without problems.
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BurningKoala said:
A friend of mine gives me the possibility to trade my galaxy nexus for his galaly note, I like the display and the s pen but I would lost the "nexus" support...I can't decide,what would you do?
p.s. with the galaxy nexus i can get 3h 30min of screen on,what about note?
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You will feel the difference in smoothness if you intend to keep it stock. But coming from a nexus i don't think you will have any problems with CM or AOSP roms, wich are much faster than Samsung Touchwiz.
Go for it and do the trade
You won't regret it

Stay with the Nexus - the support from Samsung on the Note is terrible. The recent Jelly Bean update to the Note is a disaster, it is VERY slow. Laggy everywhere, ugly, unintuitive compared to AOSP.
Want to use the S-pen? Use the S-Note app which lags like hell. When you draw with it then it jumps, also the s-pen is not calibrated properly (you can get a payed app to calibrate it properly)
Want to phone someone? Press the phone icon on your launcher, wait 5s, then get a laggy animation and then wait another 5s for the phone to load.
Want to perform a factory reset on ICS? Do so and after that you will brick your phone. If you flash a kernel then there is a possibility you will loose your guarantee.
Want to get TW 4.2.2? Forget about it, it won't happen.
Want AOSP on it? Sure we have it. Some very good ROM's... it's a shame that Samsung hasn't released the exynos source code EVEN THOUGH they said they would by the end of of 2012. This means many developers are leaving the exynos based devices and we won't get as much support on new android versions. Also we have a broken hwcomposer meaning it has not got projet butter. And you can certainly see this.
Want to watch a movie on your phone? Great! watch how all yopur greys are replaced with pitch black, imagine what a horror movie looks like on our screen now. That is what the balck clipping/black crush issue is with it.
Anything good about the phone? Well... It has a nice screen size, that's it in my eyes.

XxPixX said:
Stay with the Nexus - the support from Samsung on the Note is terrible. The recent Jelly Bean update to the Note is a disaster, it is VERY slow. Laggy everywhere, ugly, unintuitive compared to AOSP.
Want to use the S-pen? Use the S-Note app which lags like hell. When you draw with it then it jumps, also the s-pen is not calibrated properly (you can get a payed app to calibrate it properly)
Want to phone someone? Press the phone icon on your launcher, wait 5s, then get a laggy animation and then wait another 5s for the phone to load.
Want to perform a factory reset on ICS? Do so and after that you will brick your phone. If you flash a kernel then there is a possibility you will loose your guarantee.
Want to get TW 4.2.2? Forget about it, it won't happen.
Want AOSP on it? Sure we have it. Some very good ROM's... it's a shame that Samsung hasn't released the exynos source code EVEN THOUGH they said they would by the end of of 2012. This means many developers are leaving the exynos based devices and we won't get as much support on new android versions. Also we have a broken hwcomposer meaning it has not got projet butter. And you can certainly see this.
Want to watch a movie on your phone? Great! watch how all yopur greys are replaced with pitch black, imagine what a horror movie looks like on our screen now. That is what the balck clipping/black crush issue is with it.
Anything good about the phone? Well... It has a nice screen size, that's it in my eyes.
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Wow... seems like we have two completely different phones.
I can't agree with 80% of what you say. Sadly the emmc brick bug is there, and there will never be enough soft&hw support from Samsung to get us all pleased, but hey...
- JB runs GREAT on this phone, the failure is the update process which ruins everything. Do a clean one and is as fast and estable as it should.
- No lag in phone app. 1 or 2 secs, maybe? Surely NOT 5 seconds. Again: JB clean installation?
- Not liking S-Note? Well, S-pen utility sure doesn't end there. Have 5 drawing apps which I just can't imagine myself using them without the S-Pen (calibrated, by the way, with simple rooting and easy tweaking).
- Black clipping problem, just for your information, is also present in the GNexus as it is in every pentile HD amoled screen. Maybe not as hard, but it is there. Check it for yourself.
- Assuming you want to live flashing new roms, you might get affected by the unreleasing of exynos source code. I never got affected by it, most surely will never be.
- And then, there comes the big screen: Gaming, browsing, typing, reading, showing pictures, watching videos... it is like half a tablet in your everyday life, which in terms of use to me changes EVERYTHING.
Don't get me wrong, you have all the right to be unhappy with any device in the world, but those words seemed like facts when they are not really that objective. As you can see, I didn't say Note was better than GNexus: I just offered my perspective, which is a really pleasant one.
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My decision will be the same, nexus 5 or note 3
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Drummyman said:
- JB runs GREAT on this phone, the failure is the update process which ruins everything. Do a clean one and is as fast and estable as it should.
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Trust me, I wouldn't be too surprised if I has flashed over 300 times on my phone. Maybe even 500. I know how to perform a full wipe and proper install, also I NEVER have a bloated device. i try to keep as little apps as possible (usually about 15 user apps, nearly all from google). What did I realise after about 3 days of use? The phone got very slow and laggy. Not even restarts helped.
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- No lag in phone app. 1 or 2 secs, maybe? Surely NOT 5 seconds. Again: JB clean installation?
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Clear the phone out of the memory, then you will see how slow it is. With me it is usually not in memory because I don't use it that much.
Certainly 5s after a clean install, add another 5s after you have installed a couple of apps.
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- Not liking S-Note? Well, S-pen utility sure doesn't end there. Have 5 drawing apps which I just can't imagine myself using them without the S-Pen (calibrated, by the way, with simple rooting and easy tweaking).
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Although rooting is very easy on this phone, we should have had an already calibrated S-pen. As for alternative apps then yes, they do work. My favourite is Papyrus. However the samsung apps are real memory and CPU hoggers. When I was making my own ROM (Bare Bean) then the S-apps probably took up at least 150Mb... and I ask, on what? Alternative apps from google play take up 10x less space offering better functionality and speed.
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- Assuming you want to live flashing new roms, you might get affected by the unreleasing of exynos source code. I never got affected by it, most surely will never be.
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You will be affected by it in a short while, once you say "hey, I want that feature of Android in Jelly Bean 4.3"
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- And then, there comes the big screen: Gaming, browsing, typing, reading, showing pictures, watching videos... it is like half a tablet in your everyday life, which in terms of use to me changes EVERYTHING.
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Yes, the screen is nice. I must admit that... however that is one of the few things Samsung couldn't break after time with software updates.

I don't know, so many flashing overwhelms me. But I'm in Philz rooted stock spanish 4.1.2 LSZ, without removing any bloatware or anything touched (only rooted to calibrate s-pen and opened multiwindow to any app) and I can assure you my Note goes fluid, with no battery drains and there's no 5 second lag ANYWHERE. No restarting needed.
Sometimes, I get the feeling that removing too many - apparently harmless - stock rom apps and system files, causes unknown side effects. I really encourage rom developers, though - and I will not be praising Samsung work - BUT there's a lot of testing involved in stock roms that always make me more confident about them. In every phone I had, maximum estability and less problems have always been stock roms. Only talking about my own experience.
Good thing about Nexuses: Stock roms are always clean android, directly from OS developer.
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And a new flaming thread just started
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XxPixX said:
Trust me, I wouldn't be too surprised if I has flashed over 300 times on my phone. Maybe even 500. I know how to perform a full wipe and proper install, also I NEVER have a bloated device. i try to keep as little apps as possible (usually about 15 user apps, nearly all from google). What did I realise after about 3 days of use? The phone got very slow and laggy. Not even restarts helped.
Clear the phone out of the memory, then you will see how slow it is. With me it is usually not in memory because I don't use it that much.
Certainly 5s after a clean install, add another 5s after you have installed a couple of apps.
Although rooting is very easy on this phone, we should have had an already calibrated S-pen. As for alternative apps then yes, they do work. My favourite is Papyrus. However the samsung apps are real memory and CPU hoggers. When I was making my own ROM (Bare Bean) then the S-apps probably took up at least 150Mb... and I ask, on what? Alternative apps from google play take up 10x less space offering better functionality and speed.
You will be affected by it in a short while, once you say "hey, I want that feature of Android in Jelly Bean 4.3"
Yes, the screen is nice. I must admit that... however that is one of the few things Samsung couldn't break after time with software updates.
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You should change YOUR Galaxy Note with his Nexus then
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CyanogenMod for Note 4

Do anybody know when we will get CyanogenMod for our Note 4 yet?

Sure 9 Sundays from now. Or was 5 Fridays not count every other one .. Time will tell..

No, nobody knows.

legacy3566 said:
Do anybody know when we will get CyanogenMod for our Note 4 yet?
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Two weeks.

http://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/Doc:_porting_intro
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How is this better than the cook ROM that others have done?

chong67 said:
How is this better than the cook ROM that others have done?
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Cyanogen/AOSP is pure android without all the unnecessary graphics, designs and bloat from Samsung.
Minimal design = stronger processor strength.
Plus, pure stock Android is just better.

XDA has gone to $hit. He asked a simple question. Why does everyone need to be a$$holes?

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XDA has gone to $hit. He asked a simple question. Why does everyone need to be a$$holes?
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I see. I guess this is similar to Nexus phone.? Stock android?
Then stock stuff miss alot of things like no notifcations with running count, like on your voice messages or txt. Then we need to install launcher. Then we back to the same thing?

Why buy a Note device if you want stock boring Android? Never understood that.
IMHO - CyanogenMod is just plain boring. I understood the need for it way back in the G1 days. Maybe now in place of vanilla Android but as a rom on a Note 4? Hells no.

dkb218 said:
Why buy a Note device if you want stock boring ass Android? Never understood that.
IMHO - CyanogenMod is just plain boring. I understood the need for it way back in the G1 days. Maybe now in place of vanilla Android but as a rom on a Note 4? Hells no.
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Because Note devices have the top of the line and updated processors. In other words, fastest/strongest processors on the market at the time of release.
You will never see the full capacity of this processor until you're on Pure Android.
And that's what I love. This beastly processor on bare Android.
Perfection.

chong67 said:
I see. I guess this is similar to Nexus phone.? Stock android?
Then stock stuff miss alot of things like no notifcations with running count, like on your voice messages or txt. Then we need to install launcher. Then we back to the same thing?
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To get rid of the icon badges, disable BadgeProvider (in Application Manager).

I agree with you. IMO (<- take note of that before anyone gets butt hurt.) I think "some" people don't realize how much TW has improved. It's pretty awesome on the Note 4 and for those who like TW can definitely tell how far it has come.
CM is boring and IMO it takes away from the Notes DNA of what makes a Note a Note. If I just cared about having the best piece of hardware with a big screen, I'd still want something pleasing to look at than a black and white movie.
Like I've said earlier....
...and it's nice to be able to drive a McLaren P1 and do the 1/4 mile in 9 seconds as oppose to driving a gutted Honda Civic fully modded with no interior w/ a welded roll cage and helment running 9's in the 1/4. Chicks dig luxury, performance and comfort..."
IMO for anyone wanting CM, they should just the Nexus 6 or an iphone LOL. The fact remains that the new TW is very efficient and there are enough customizations you can do with wanam/xpose to be able to enjoy all the benefits of CM or not, depending on your style and preference. I am confident to give CM a run for its money on AnTuTu along with other benchmarks, because the truth is, with TW already running 50K+ on stock kernel, anything above this wouldn't really be noticeable if at all. Heck even anything below that wouldn't really make a difference in the real world with normal usage. Therefore, although all this doesn't really matter, I think it'll be fun to explore the close race between TW and CM. I'm game for it....bring it on. There won't be a big enough gap to even make CM justifiable IMO. Plus, the girl will want to ride in my car, not the gutted honda civic. Be a gentleman, and treat her like a lady. LOL j/k.
At the end of the day, it's your phone and you can do whatever the heck your heart desires. :highfive:
Bottom line, just be happy to know that you own the best darn device available and enjoy!
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Why buy a Note device if you want stock boring ass Android? Never understood that.
IMHO - CyanogenMod is just plain boring. I understood the need for it way back in the G1 days. Maybe now in place of vanilla Android but as a rom on a Note 4? Hells no.
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iunlock said:
I agree with you. IMO (<- take note of that before anyone gets butt hurt.) I think "some" people don't realize how much TW has improved. It's pretty awesome on the Note 4 and for those who like TW can definitely tell how far it has come.
CM is boring and IMO it takes away from the Notes DNA of what makes a Note a Note. If I just cared about having the best piece of hardware with a big screen, I'd still want something pleasing to look at than a black and white movie.
Like I've said earlier....
...and it's nice to be able to drive a McLaren P1 and do the 1/4 mile in 9 seconds as oppose to driving a gutted Honda Civic fully modded with no interior w/ a welded roll cage and helment running 9's in the 1/4. Chicks dig luxury, performance and comfort..."
IMO for anyone wanting CM, they should just the Nexus 6 or an iphone LOL. The fact remains that the new TW is very efficient and there are enough customizations you can do with wanam/xpose to be able to enjoy all the benefits of CM or not, depending on your style and preference. I am confident to give CM a run for its money on AnTuTu along with other benchmarks, because the truth is, with TW already running 50K+ on stock kernel, anything above this wouldn't really be noticeable if at all. Heck even anything below that wouldn't really make a difference in the real world with normal usage. Therefore, although all this doesn't really matter, I think it'll be fun to explore the close race between TW and CM. I'm game for it....bring it on. There won't be a big enough gap to even make CM justifiable IMO. Plus, the girl will want to ride in my car, not the gutted honda civic. Be a gentleman, and treat her like a lady. LOL j/k.
At the end of the day, it's your phone and you can do whatever the heck your heart desires. :highfive:
Bottom, just be happy to know that you own the best darn device available and enjoy!
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5.0 Lollipop for Samsung is supposed to have a very material look.
If that's the case than the AOSP Roms aren't going to be the best out there.

The whole 5.0 thing is making me a little nervous. But then again didn't we have this scare before? I don't know....darn Google....
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5.0 Lollipop for Samsung is supposed to have a very material look.
If that's the case than the AOSP Roms aren't going to be the best out there.
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Coming from Verizon, it is a welcome change to have an unlocked bootloader, and the choice to drive the custom muscle car or the luxury car.
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You can drive both with the N4 especially with the availability of some awesome ROM's.....You seem like a car guy...if you want the performance of a fully gutted drag car with the luxury of a S Class, try the FireKatv3 ROM. You won't be disappointed. It's so crazy light and freakin' fast as heck.
DieHappy said:
Coming from Verizon, it is a welcome change to have an unlocked bootloader, and the choice to drive the custom muscle car or the luxury car.
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You can drive both with the N4 especially with the availability of some awesome ROM's.....You seem like a car guy...if you want the performance of a fully gutted drag car with the luxury of a S Class, try the FireKatv3 ROM. You won't be disappointed. It's so crazy light and freakin' fast as heck.
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I really want to try that Ron but I need Unlimited tethering so I don't think
That rom supports it

the great thing about Cyanogen for our phone will be that will open the doors for all sorts of AOSP roms; Cyanogen mod is a very stripped down version of AOSP, but there are fantastic AOSP roms out there, (SlimRom, ParaNoidAndroid,AOKP) are a few that come to mind, and, they come with mods and fixes that bring ALOT of the stuff you get on the stock TouchWiz roms, just with different software; and,regardless of what anyone says, NO touchwiz rom will be as light, swift, slick and fast as an AOSP rom.
I too would be curious to see how this phone would scream with an AOSP rom, and I'm sure it wont be long till a few of them start showing up; but, usually Cyanogen Mod will be the first one that gets ported for a newly released phone..

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I really want to try that Ron but I need Unlimited tethering so I don't think
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WiFi Tether Router, from the playstore works flawlessly.
I use it daily.
FireKatv3 is insane...
I've mentioned in another post where I would much rather use a 3rd party tethering app over a baked in one any day. More setting options....therefore, with me even if a ROM had it baked in, I wouldn't be using it anyway.
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wase4711 said:
the great thing about Cyanogen for our phone will be that will open the doors for all sorts of AOSP roms; Cyanogen mod is a very stripped down version of AOSP, but there are fantastic AOSP roms out there, (SlimRom, ParaNoidAndroid,AOKP) are a few that come to mind, and, they come with mods and fixes that bring ALOT of the stuff you get on the stock TouchWiz roms, just with different software; and,regardless of what anyone says, NO touchwiz rom will be as light, swift, slick and fast as an AOSP rom.
I too would be curious to see how this phone would scream with an AOSP rom, and I'm sure it wont be long till a few of them start showing up; but, usually Cyanogen Mod will be the first one that gets ported for a newly released phone..
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Yes it'll be screaming fast, no denying that. But unlike before where there was a huge gap between asop roms vs stock tw....from my crazy smooth experience so far with the newly refined TW (thanks to FireKatv3), that gap has closed a lot.
It's nice to finally be able to go fast and in luxury without sacrificing luxury for performance like before.
Most people buy the note for the note experience to enjoy the luxury that it offers while being equipped with a v12 monster.
IMO, Why buy a Bentley just to strip it of its luxury? Why not just downgrade and buy a Nexus 6? Answer? Because even in this scenerio the N4 is still better. Fair enough.
A stripped down Bently (asop) is obviously going to be faster than the one (stock) still having its hand stitched leather seats that does weigh a ton. But, thanks to a highly refined ROM like FireKatv3, that v12 beast is tuned to provide more power to balance out the power to weight ratio, while still being naturally aspirated. That's impressive.
All credit to Mega (the dev) of FireKatv3, but I'm pretty darn happy about my experience so far running on stock kernel and hitting 50k+. Now regardless of any opinions on benchmarks and real world experience, the fact remains that my real world experience is more than enough to justify my 50k+ bench score.
I've yet to see any other ROM do that.
So I'll see yall asop'ers at the drag strip and give you a run for the money. It'll be good fun. [emoji106]

Is it Worth It?

Hello! Ket here, and I am wondering, is the Nexus 6 really worth it or would a Samsung Galaxy S6(Or 5) Be better? I'd like your fully opinion! thanks!
Thanks - Ket

Oh dear.
Its subjective. We like the N6. S6 users probably prefer that. Get what you want, not what we tell you.

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Oh dear.
Its subjective. We like the N6. S6 users probably prefer that. Get what you want, not what we tell you.
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I realize that in the Nexus 6 section I'd get more Nexus 6 Votes, but Im really trying to see if anyone would keep their Nexus 6 or Rather Switch to a S6

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I realize that in the Nexus 6 section I'd get more Nexus 6 Votes, but Im really trying to see if anyone would keep their Nexus 6 or Rather Switch to a S6
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What would it matter to you? It wouldn't / shouldn't change your view. If you want an S6, get it. Its a completely different phone. Generally people go for Nexus devices because they're the complete opposite of Samsung devices.
Make your own decision.

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....but Im really trying to see if anyone would keep their Nexus 6 or Rather Switch to a S6
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I've had Samsung phone since the vibrant came out. They are by their own right an excellent device if you can tolerate TW. Now I don't think I'll be going back.
IMO; go N6!!
I had the S4 and it has some feature that I do miss. The air gestures mostly.

I had an n6, switched to the s6, then a month later back to the n6.
The s6 was a solid phone, looks amazing and smooth as hell, my fav phone ive ever owned
But eventually i missed the big screen of the nexus and the bigger battery. I was charging the s6 about 2 times a day, and i got tired of it. Also i missed being able to customize my phone, but the stock s6 isnt bad at all so i didnt miss it too much.
Overall id say go with the n6 cause the battery life on the s6 will get annoying after a while.
Me personally i probably wouldve stayed on the s6 if they had a bigger battery.

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I've had Samsung phone since the vibrant came out. They are by their own right an excellent device if you can tolerate TW. Now I don't think I'll be going back.
IMO; go N6!!
I had the S4 and it has some feature that I do miss. The air gestures mostly.
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I had an n6, switched to the s6, then a month later back to the n6.
The s6 was a solid phone, looks amazing and smooth as hell, my fav phone ive ever owned
But eventually i missed the big screen of the nexus and the bigger battery. I was charging the s6 about 2 times a day, and i got tired of it. Also i missed being able to customize my phone, but the stock s6 isnt bad at all so i didnt miss it too much.
Overall id say go with the n6 cause the battery life on the s6 will get annoying after a while.
Me personally i probably wouldve stayed on the s6 if they had a bigger battery.
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Thanks! So far
N6 Has better:
Battery Life
Software (No TW)
S6 Has better:
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What would it matter to you? It wouldn't / shouldn't change your view. If you want an S6, get it. Its a completely different phone. Generally people go for Nexus devices because they're the complete opposite of Samsung devices.
Make your own decision.
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To be honest, I've looked through all the phones I could get that are the latest and greatest (Except iPhones) And I got stuck, N6 or S6? Some things are better on N6 some are better on S6 and thats why im stumped, Price DOES NOT matter to me because of my contact I have, but I really need to know what people perfer, as of now I think I want a N6 because I hate TouchWiz, but either way they'll both end up on some rom like CyanogenMod 12.1... I also dont really care for the look or feel because I'll be getting a case anywhere, so It really comes down to specs, battery life, software(on N6), and stuff like that,
Also: Is it true what N6 (and all Nexus's) get updates before the Samsungs?
Thanks for all the help! - Ket

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Thanks! So far
N6 Has better:
Battery Life
Software (No TW)
S6 Has better:
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Camera. S6 camera is so damn beautiful
And the design is sexxy
Also the screen is the best screen ive ever seen on any smartphone, and has better viewing in sunlight.
The s6 performs better stock as well. Gaming on the n6 for has been mediocre, but with a custom kernel that problem goes away. The s6 performs top notch out of the box, no customizing needed.
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KetOfficial said:
To be honest, I've looked through all the phones I could get that are the latest and greatest (Except iPhones) And I got stuck, N6 or S6? Some things are better on N6 some are better on S6 and thats why im stumped, Price DOES NOT matter to me because of my contact I have, but I really need to know what people perfer, as of now I think I want a N6 because I hate TouchWiz, but either way they'll both end up on some rom like CyanogenMod 12.1... I also dont really care for the look or feel because I'll be getting a case anywhere, so It really comes down to specs, battery life, software(on N6), and stuff like that,
Also: Is it true what N6 (and all Nexus's) get updates before the Samsungs?
Thanks for all the help! - Ket
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Ill answer this as well so i can get my post count up...lol
If you want cm12, n6 is best. Cm12 likely wont come for the s6 anytime soon, if ever because of the type of processor used.
And yes, n6 get updates before any other phone.
So it looks like you need an n6

KetOfficial said:
To be honest, I've looked through all the phones I could get that are the latest and greatest (Except iPhones) And I got stuck, N6 or S6? Some things are better on N6 some are better on S6 and thats why im stumped, Price DOES NOT matter to me because of my contact I have, but I really need to know what people perfer, as of now I think I want a N6 because I hate TouchWiz, but either way they'll both end up on some rom like CyanogenMod 12.1... I also dont really care for the look or feel because I'll be getting a case anywhere, so It really comes down to specs, battery life, software(on N6), and stuff like that,
Also: Is it true what N6 (and all Nexus's) get updates before the Samsungs?
Thanks for all the help! - Ket
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Here's the deal here, Samsung put a blocker on many things the flashaholic loves..they have their Knox, warranty void when rooted, don't share sources for things like camera HAL, and if you're unlucky enough not get an exynos version, no sources for that either.
If custom AOSP roms is your thing, nexus hands down...
Other than that list which pros mean most to you and see which has the most.

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Here's the deal hear, Samsung put a blocker on many things the flashaholic loves..they have their Knox, warranty void when rooted, don't share sources for things like camera HAL, and if you're unlucky enough not get an TextNow version, no sources for that either.
If custom AOSP roms is your thing, nexus hands down...
Other than that list which pros mean most to you and see which has the most.
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Thanks, I am a person who flashes roms left and right, and I need the extra battery life (I dont really care about the Camera as much.)
Thanks for all the help Danarama! - Ket

KetOfficial said:
Thanks, I am a person who flashes roms left and right, and I need the extra battery life (I dont really care about the Camera as much.)
Thanks for all the help Danarama! - Ket
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Sounds to me like an easy decision, but only.you can make itm

I had S3, note 3 and note 4 until 2 weeks ago when I decided to give N6 a try. I love big screens and now can not go back to none stock android. It's just an Awsome experience.
Yes, S6 is a beautiful and great phone. But after having a 6 inch screen, any phone with screen less than 5.7 feels like a child's toy to me.

Lepa79 said:
I had S3, note 3 and note 4 until 2 weeks ago when I decided to give N6 a try. I love big screens and now can not go back to none stock android. It's just an Awsome experience.
Yes, S6 is a beautiful and great phone. But after having a 6 inch screen, any phone with screen less than 5.7 feels like a child's toy to me.
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I apologise in advance for being pedantic, you're going to hate me
You can't say "none stock" as a comparison to other phones. Stock means unmodified as in, how it left the factory, shipped and is "in Stock". I think what you meant was "None vanilla". The Nexus 6 has Vanilla Android as stock. But All phones have a "stock" OS, whether it is vanilla or otherwise. Touchwiz is Stock on a Samsung. You can install Vanilla too (AOSP).
I know it's only a minor inaccuracy and I'm being pedantic by bringing it up, but since people quite regularly confuse Vanilla and Stock as synonyms, it does confuse noobs here when different people mean different things when they say stock - so it's best to use it correctly
So yeah, The official ROM for every phone is a Stock ROM. Custom ROMs can either be based on the stock ROM for that phone or on AOSP, which would be a Vanilla Android ROM.
(Sorry)

danarama said:
I apologise in advance for being pedantic, you're going to hate me
You can't say "none stock" as a comparison to other phones. Stock means unmodified as in, how it left the factory, shipped and is "in Stock". I think what you meant was "None vanilla". The Nexus 6 has Vanilla Android as stock. But All phones have a "stock" OS, whether it is vanilla or otherwise. Touchwiz is Stock on a Samsung. You can install Vanilla too (AOSP).
I know it's only a minor inaccuracy and I'm being pedantic by bringing it up, but since people quite regularly confuse Vanilla and Stock as synonyms, it does confuse noobs here when different people mean different things when they say stock - so it's best to use it correctly
So yeah, The official ROM for every phone is a Stock ROM. Custom ROMs can either be based on the stock ROM for that phone or on AOSP, which would be a Vanilla Android ROM.
(Sorry)
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No worries. I completely agree with you on Stock vs Vanilla. I stand corrected. So, yes, I am loving "vanilla" android and nexus 6 is a great hardware to complement that.

Aosp Roms

Hey guys. I searched for some answers but came up empty handed. My question is how come we don't have any aosp Roms yet? Are there any in the works? Is there something particular holding back their development? Just got my note 5 recently and trying to catch up on the development here.
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Sadly this is why : http://www.xda-developers.com/samsung-exynos-and-aosp-explained-a-story-of-betrayal/
Even if Samsung opens up it's too late as many of the talented people have long gone. Also with Samsung making TW less bloaty (With built in theme support) and Xposed you really don't need a AOSP rom much anymore.

Thanks for sharing. That's a bummer I looked but didn't come up on that article. I just prefer an aosp rom option. I usually nand my favorite tw and favorite aosp Roms to switch up when I'm bored
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Get the Nexus 6P for AOSP

rawdaddymagraden said:
Thanks for sharing. That's a bummer I looked but didn't come up on that article. I just prefer an aosp rom option. I usually nand my favorite tw and favorite aosp Roms to switch up when I'm bored
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The only downside to the Note 5 imho is the ****ty multi tasking/ram issue. I've tried all the build.prop and kernel fixes but non of them seem to work for me. I usually have more than 6 apps running in the background like titanium backup,cool tools,dreamlab,daemon sync,Google Photos and a bunch of other stuff that I NEED and the damn Note 5 keeps on killing them proccesses. I know it's certainly TW doing it as I have the exact same apps running on my LG G Pro 2 and it doesn't randomly kill tasks.
Anyhoo that's just my rant on the only thing I hate about this device, Otherwise I actually like it a lot.

I wish it was that easy. I used my two Jumps this year, first on the g4 which I hated and the second on this. I don't have another till july. But I am thoroughly happy with this phone just wish I had the option to use aosp as it is updated and waiting for Samsung to update is pain staking.
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Get the Nexus 6P for AOSP
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ickyboo said:
The only downside to the Note 5 imho is the ****ty multi tasking/ram issue. I've tried all the build.prop and kernel fixes but non of them seem to work for me. I usually have more than 6 apps running in the background like titanium backup,cool tools,dreamlab,daemon sync,Google Photos and a bunch of other stuff that I NEED and the damn Note 5 keeps on killing them proccesses. I know it's certainly TW doing it as I have the exact same apps running on my LG G Pro 2 and it doesn't randomly kill tasks.
Anyhoo that's just my rant on the only thing I hate about this device, Otherwise I actually like it a lot.
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I don't have this issue or I guess it doesn't affect me for what I use my phone for. Not sure
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Maybe I'm just a hardcore user as I notice most people don't have their phones as customized and set up as mine. I'm guessing Samsung has optimized the S6/Note5 for 99% of the other normal users who don't multitask much.

download a kernel and lower the lmk

ickyboo said:
The only downside to the Note 5 imho is the ****ty multi tasking/ram issue. I've tried all the build.prop and kernel fixes but non of them seem to work for me. I usually have more than 6 apps running in the background like titanium backup,cool tools,dreamlab,daemon sync,Google Photos and a bunch of other stuff that I NEED and the damn Note 5 keeps on killing them proccesses. I know it's certainly TW doing it as I have the exact same apps running on my LG G Pro 2 and it doesn't randomly kill tasks.
Anyhoo that's just my rant on the only thing I hate about this device, Otherwise I actually like it a lot.
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i also Have a Nexus 6 and its the same, in fact, none of my Android phones has actually keep programs open in background for long period, no matter wich Rom i use. After while it needs to reopen the app