Has anyone reached out to Motorola to see if there will be a developer edition of the Turbo. I know Motorola confirmed no developer for motox gen 2. But i haven't heard any confirmations on the turbo! Anyone have any feedback ?
Somewhere else in the forum i thought i read that there were no plans for any dev edition, at least in the near future.
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From Motorola or verizon. Note4 developer was just released for Verizon for developer a little while back,
coreywallen said:
Somewhere else in the forum i thought i read that there were no plans for any dev edition, at least in the near future.
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I just contacted them.
The representative said that they don't have the information on when the Droid Turbo Developer Edition will be released but he assures me that "that is the phone that is next online to be released on our end."
I think "online" was meant to be "in line."
Thoughts?
Roobix said:
I just contacted them.
The representative said that they don't have the information on when the Droid Turbo Developer Edition will be released but he assures me that "that is the phone that is next online to be released on our end."
I think "online" was meant to be "in line."
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I'll believe it when I see it.
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If it does happen I could see them pulling a 2nd Gen moto thing. It will be a 'pure' edition and won't be compatible for Verizon
I'm thinking it will be a Pure Edition thing too, which I would love to have since I'm on T Mobile.
I wonder why moto can't/won't release a dev edition ROM for current and provide a way to securely flash it; they could even charge for it and I would be fine with it. All a dev edition changes is the status of the bootloader, correct? There isn't anything physically different between the two devices right?
Roobix said:
I just contacted them.
The representative said that they don't have the information on when the Droid Turbo Developer Edition will be released but he assures me that "that is the phone that is next online to be released on our end."
I think "online" was meant to be "in line."
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Was this from Verizon or Motorola? If it was Verizon, I'd put about a 1% confidence rating; if Motorola I'd put a 35% confidence rating.
That being said: I'd sell my Turbo in a heartbeat for a developer version.
Same here I would be surprised if it actually comes out. If so it looks like I would be passing mine out for a good price to pick up the developer edition.
jasoraso said:
Was this from Verizon or Motorola? If it was Verizon, I'd put about a 1% confidence rating; if Motorola I'd put a 35% confidence rating.
That being said: I'd sell my Turbo in a heartbeat for a developer version.
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It was from Motorola. The Droid Maxx developer edition was released one month after the release of the Droid Maxx, so it could be soon...
Has anyone else contacted Motorola?
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It was from Motorola. The Droid Maxx developer edition was released one month after the release of the Droid Maxx, so it could be soon...
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I did and they said they had no information if there was or was not going to be a Droid Turbo Developer Edition available.
Turbo, developer edition, what a dream phone. A rootable device running pure Android. Please Motorola, make it real.
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I really want a turbo, but was planning on waiting a few months so i can grab one used. I'd probably sell my girlfriend for a developer edition though.
I'm running a 2013 X now, but i'm switching back to a verizon reseller instead of t-mobile, and i just managed to grab a MAXX dev edition used, which should keep me happy for a few months.
Already have a rootable editon, its. Moto maxx.
nvsocr7 said:
I wonder why moto can't/won't release a dev edition ROM for current and provide a way to securely flash it; they could even charge for it and I would be fine with it. All a dev edition changes is the status of the bootloader, correct? There isn't anything physically different between the two devices right?
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Because carriers.
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Already have a rootable editon, its. Moto maxx.
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This is why we need a maxx sub forum.
No we do not have a rootable edition. Droid Turbo is the name of the forum, and the Maxx is useless on Verizon, where nearly all Turbo users are with them.
I honestly dont think there will be a developer edition for the turbo on verizon. Heck I really dont believe the nexus will come to verizon just from talking to some reps. They said they nexus to work on the network never said anything about getting it to be bought through verizon. Just stating my opinion. Those of you waiting to get the nexus 6 should be better off going through google or motorola.
So still no developer / pure edition for this beast? I'd pick that up immediately.
EDIT: upon further research, I wouldn't. No reliable data/voice while driving on highways (as the phone does sometimes switch to 3g). What a shame.
Ive unlocked the developer edition of my turbo by pressing the Build number in the about phone settings five times.
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Also, wth would the difference be at this point if they would both retain moto x features lol. I believe that is what I'm doing especially at&t and they're bootloader locking stuff. Just not sure which version and which one comes out first.
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Also, wth would the difference be at this point if they would both retain moto x features lol. I believe that is what I'm doing especially at&t and they're bootloader locking stuff. Just not sure which version and which one comes out first.
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i might be waiting. I'll be considering the phone but am going to have to pay full price off contract. So if I'm going to do that, I might as well get the developer edition. However, I would really like to order the phone on opening day, so I'm hoping the Developer edition comes out same day.
dwd3885 said:
i might be waiting. I'll be considering the phone but am going to have to pay full price off contract. So if I'm going to do that, I might as well get the developer edition. However, I would really like to order the phone on opening day, so I'm hoping the Developer edition comes out same day.
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I hear you, same with me. I'd have to buy off contract either way and dont feel at&t needs more of my money. But you say developer edition which would most likely be on the Motorola website? What about the Google edition version that is rumored to come out? Aren't these the same companies, why make it so confusing lol.
It would be nice to have some idea of how long we have to wait......
I defently waiting. Want my unlocked bootloader...I dont want to wait to see if someone can unlock the regular bootloader. I am on Verizon...so I also need to pay full price to keep my unlimited data
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Price is what will decide it for me.
I am considering the purchase of a Developer Edition phone only because of the price of it. I am thinking it would be cheaper to purchase it from Google than it would be to buy it off contract from the carrier. But if it is the same price then I will just get it from my carrier. The colour designing of it isnt important to me.
News should come out in a few days about dev edition availability. I'm not getting the at&t one I don't think. I'm already hearing all the complaints about their annoying phone book software, and their locked BL.
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News should come out in a few days about dev edition availability. I'm not getting the at&t one I don't think. I'm already hearing all the complaints about their annoying phone book software, and their locked BL.
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The address book software doesn't get in the way. Usually it pops up on phones like the One, but on the X, I haven't seen it yet.
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I'm definitely waiting for a developer unlocked edition. Don't want carrier bloat and waiting for bootloader unlock and random issues.
I'll likely return mine that I bought at AT&T when a dev edition is out or news of one. I forget how much I HATE the carrier having more control over my device than me.
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Developer Edition
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Motorolas-own-website-outs-the-32GB-Motorola-Moto-X-Developer-Edition_id46737
I hope that White back is only a rumour and there will be an option of black back
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I hope that White back is only a rumour and there will be an option of black back
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Yeah...if not I'm just gonna go with the Motomaker version and unlock the bootloader another way which probably has been done already.
So what's the chance of Verizon getting an unlocked developers edition?
What was the last phone Verizon allowed unlocked out of the box on their network?
compatibility with theoretical future unlocked stock?
Question: Let's say in the future some brilliant dev-type finds a root & bootloader unlock exploit for the non-dev edition of the VZW Moto X. Would ROMs developed for that phone (the rooted/unlocked VZW stock Moto X) be compatible with the Dev Edition? Does anyone know how this has worked with previous Dev Editions?
I'm just wondering in the situation described above, whether the people who shelled out for Dev Edition early on could find themselves with a much smaller mod/dev community to draw upon than people who wait around for a potential (but maybe never coming) future unlock of the device. Would the two VZW versions of the Moto X (Dev and stock) be essentially the same device aside from bootloader, and therefore have compatibility?
I know this is all conjecture until we see an actual Dev Edition on VZW (which might not happen) but I'd be interested in thoughts.
Roms would work on both developer and regular version. One plus would be 32 GB . im hoping Verizon will get developer with the extra storage.
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Well with current rumors pegging it at around $500+, I sense this phone failing commercially.
It's just too much money.
I get Moto wants this to be their "iPhone" but if you wanted to massively pull the rug out from under their feet, you would stick this thing's non contract price around the rumors for the 5C price, which is $300-$400.
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I'm going by the few articles I've read mentioning some carriers and not at&t.
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I'm going by the few articles I've read mentioning some carriers and not at&t.
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FWIW, I haven't seen coverage clearly saying that there will not be an AT&T Developer Edition. Where did you hear that?
I don't have the source right now, but I remember reading early on that there would be a "Google Play Edition" separate from Developer Edition, and that this would be AT&T/TMO compatible. If there truly is not an AT&T Dev Edition, maybe this is a substitute?
The version sold on Google Play will be the unlocked version compatible with both AT&T and T-Mobile, just like the other phones on Google Play. There will be 2 separate Developer Editions, 1 for Verizon, and 1 for AT&T (also technically compatible with T-Mobile since both use 1900Mhz for 4G). The key here is that the Google Play version will likely be only in 16GB, whereas both the Developer Editions will be 32GB.
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The version sold on Google Play will be the unlocked version compatible with both AT&T and T-Mobile, just like the other phones on Google Play. There will be 2 separate Developer Editions, 1 for Verizon, and 1 for AT&T (also technically compatible with T-Mobile since both use 1900Mhz for 4G). The key here is that the Google Play version will likely be only in 16GB, whereas both the Developer Editions will be 32GB.
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Isn't the Google Play version just conjecture at this point? Motorola hasn't announced that yet.
The only thing that Motorola has announced is that there will be a developer edition of the Moto X. Have they announced anything about the Dev edition (i.e. a Verizon version and an AT&T version) or are those rumours that are making the rounds?
rajeshr said:
Isn't the Google Play version just conjecture at this point? Motorola hasn't announced that yet.
The only thing that Motorola has announced is that there will be a developer edition of the Moto X. Have they announced anything about the Dev edition (i.e. a Verizon version and an AT&T version) or are those rumours that are making the rounds?
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Google Play edition:
http://pocketnow.com/2013/08/13/google-play-moto-x
http://www.tmonews.com/2013/08/image-confirms-t-mobile-moto-x-availability-through-google-play-only/
http://www.theverge.com/2013/8/1/4579278/google-play-edition-moto-x-announced-coming-soon
Developer Edition:
http://www.droid-life.com/2013/08/25/here-is-the-moto-x-developer-edition/
http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/0...riers-developer-editions-for-att-and-verizon/
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Google Play edition:
http://pocketnow.com/2013/08/13/google-play-moto-x
http://www.tmonews.com/2013/08/image-confirms-t-mobile-moto-x-availability-through-google-play-only/
http://www.theverge.com/2013/8/1/4579278/google-play-edition-moto-x-announced-coming-soon
Developer Edition:
http://www.droid-life.com/2013/08/25/here-is-the-moto-x-developer-edition/
http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/0...riers-developer-editions-for-att-and-verizon/
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Still no source from Moto on the Google Play edition - just these sites conjecturing the availability of the Moto X thorough the Play store.
As for the Dev edition, you are correct. There is indeed a executive source from Motorola who mentioned the availability of the Verizon and North American version of the Dev edition.
I'm glad there's going to be a Verizon Developer edition. I was a little nervous. I'm hoping there will be some word on the Droids being rooted before the Verizon Developer edition comes out. I'm loving my Droid Mini it's the phone I've had my eyes on since it was announced and have loved the last week with it but I need root and the Motorola bootloader has been quite a pain in the days of late. Either way when things get pumping I'm pretty sure there are going to be some very great stable roms for all 4 phones since porting is going to require such little work if any really
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Still no source from Moto on the Google Play edition - just these sites conjecturing the availability of the Moto X thorough the Play store.
As for the Dev edition, you are correct. There is indeed a executive source from Motorola who mentioned the availability of the Verizon and North American version of the Dev edition.
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On August 2, 2013 Punit Soni, who heads Moto X for Motorola said the following on his Google Plus page:
Perhaps this got missed in the launch hullabaloo ...
Moto X on the Sprint, US Cellular, Rogers and T-Mobile networks will have an unlockable bootloader, and in addition, we will be offering a Verizon Wireless Developer Edition and a general North American Developer Edition.
Hope that clarifies some of the questions out there
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I would link, but don't have enough posts yet, I think. You can find it at +PunitSoni on Google plus.
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On August 2, 2013 Punit Soni, who heads Moto X for Motorola said the following on his Google Plus page:
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I would link, but don't have enough posts yet, I think. You can find it at +PunitSoni on Google plus.
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Yes, I agreed about about the Dev editions from Motorola, but there's been no confirmation about the Google Play edition. Punit Soni only mentions the Dev edition (which is not the same as the Google Play edition).
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Yes, I agreed about about the Dev editions from Motorola, but there's been no confirmation about the Google Play edition. Punit Soni only mentions the Dev edition (which is not the same as the Google Play edition).
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Right, I put that to support, not contradict you... we are in "violent agreement!"
Punit said in a comment to that same post that they would announce plans for the Play Store "soon." Not clear what that means now almost four weeks later...
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Yes, I agreed about about the Dev editions from Motorola, but there's been no confirmation about the Google Play edition. Punit Soni only mentions the Dev edition (which is not the same as the Google Play edition).
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The PocketNow article cites Guy Kawasaki as the source of the information on the Google Play edition. Kawasaki is an official Motorola employee, who was picked up from Apple last year. Guy confirmed it in a google hangouts session he had conducted a few days back.
From someone (me) who really prefers the GP editions (I love plane vanilla AOSP): Why does there need to be a GPe of the Moto X? My understanding is outside of active notifications and touchless voice, this is pretty much AOSP. And the hardware is purpose built for those features (extra sensors, voice processor) as well anyway...
Just my $.02
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From someone (me) who really prefers the GP editions (I love plane vanilla AOSP): Why does there need to be a GPe of the Moto X? My understanding is outside of active notifications and touchless voice, this is pretty much AOSP. And the hardware is purpose built for those features (extra sensors, voice processor) as well anyway...
Just my $.02
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Yes, thats exactly the reason why the GPe MotoX will still come with all the software features and optimizations, because it is essentially just stock otherwise, and built to blend in seamlessly with the UI. The reason it will be on GP is because it will be unlocked and unbranded, and have Tmobile AWS support. The GP edition is the only way you can buy a MotoX for use on Tmobile, since they won't be carrying it in the stores or online on their website.
http://www.tmonews.com/2013/08/image-confirms-t-mobile-moto-x-availability-through-google-play-only/
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From someone (me) who really prefers the GP editions (I love plane vanilla AOSP): Why does there need to be a GPe of the Moto X? My understanding is outside of active notifications and touchless voice, this is pretty much AOSP. And the hardware is purpose built for those features (extra sensors, voice processor) as well anyway...
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Its AOSP like on top of moto blur from what I've been reading. I'm not sure how the GP edition would be completely AOSP without those moto blur features? Its not too clear on many parts lol.
SysAdmNj said:
Its AOSP like on top of moto blur from what I've been reading. I'm not sure how the GP edition would be completely AOSP without those moto blur features? Its not too clear on many parts lol.
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It loses no MotoBlur features. Its the ATT software with no bloat and SIM unlocked/bootloader unlockable.
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Its AOSP like on top of moto blur from what I've been reading. I'm not sure how the GP edition would be completely AOSP without those moto blur features? Its not too clear on many parts lol.
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There's no Moto Blur on this device. Just stock Android with a couple of additions (and those seem to be showing up on the Play Store too). Moto Blur was a heavy skin on top of Android and that seems to have gone away completely!
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It loses no MotoBlur features. Its the ATT software with no bloat and SIM unlocked/bootloader unlockable.
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There's no Moto Blur on this device. Just stock Android with a couple of additions (and those seem to be showing up on the Play Store too). Moto Blur was a heavy skin on top of Android and that seems to have gone away completely!
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Well not moto blur, I'm just going by this post and article I post below. Regardless, 10% chance I'll be buying the at&t version lol. I rather wait, and who knows maybe by then the googorola nexus 5 appears with a superior camera ? *dreams on*
Even though, I remember trying the Droid X and it had a nice camera back then.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=45034892&postcount=3
http://anandtech.com/show/7235/moto-x-review/3
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One of the first things that changed for Motorola under its new Google ownership was the final nail through the coffin for Motoblur, with OTA updates for some of its handsets gradually scaling back customized features in favor of stock ones. I joked with Anand that Google paid $12.5 billion for Motorola just to kill the beast that was Motoblur. Truth be told the presence of largely-stock Android 4.x UI is perhaps one of the best qualities of the Moto X.
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From someone (me) who really prefers the GP editions (I love plane vanilla AOSP): Why does there need to be a GPe of the Moto X? My understanding is outside of active notifications and touchless voice, this is pretty much AOSP. And the hardware is purpose built for those features (extra sensors, voice processor) as well anyway...
Just my $.02
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For future updates probably. It's still on 4.2.2
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It loses no MotoBlur features. Its the ATT software with no bloat and SIM unlocked/bootloader unlockable.
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I'm sure we can get around the bootloader with time right? This isn't like the HTC Vivid...or at least tell me it's not like that.
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Well not moto blur, I'm just going by this post and article I post below. Regardless, 10% chance I'll be buying the at&t version lol. I rather wait, and who knows maybe by then the googorola nexus 5 appears with a superior camera ? *dreams on*
Even though, I remember trying the Droid X and it had a nice camera back then.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=45034892&postcount=3
http://anandtech.com/show/7235/moto-x-review/3
"Somewhat Stock Android
One of the first things that changed for Motorola under its new Google ownership was the final nail through the coffin for Motoblur, with OTA updates for some of its handsets gradually scaling back customized features in favor of stock ones. I joked with Anand that Google paid $12.5 billion for Motorola just to kill the beast that was Motoblur. Truth be told the presence of largely-stock Android 4.x UI is perhaps one of the best qualities of the Moto X.
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Unfortunately I doubt the Nexus line will ever come back to ATT with subsidy (I'm just a poor boy from a poor family..) and my family wants me to get my own phone bill this weekend (and I get a nice discount on ATT through my job) so I'm 99 percent sure I'm going Moto X.
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I'm sure we can get around the bootloader with time right? This isn't like the HTC Vivid...or at least tell me it's not like that.
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I don't know how you can be sure of something so unlikely to happen again. More likely that Verizon give everyone unlimited data back IMO.. (Not gonna happen).
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Struggling with getting the Dev edition and just getting the Verizon version when motomaker hits Verizon. There's the obvious plus with getting the Dev edition but I'm not crazy about the color scheme. Thoughts?
I am so glad I went with importing a Rodgers one and not going with a moto maker one. I have unlocked and rooted and xposedmoto has meant I can get rid of the WiFi gap, network icon etc.
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I am so glad I went with importing a Rodgers one and not going with a moto maker one. I have unlocked and rooted and xposedmoto has meant I can get rid of the WiFi gap, network icon etc.
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What part of the ATT bands does the Roger device support?
As far as I know they are one and the same device just with an unlockable boot loader
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I am so glad I went with importing a Rodgers one and not going with a moto maker one. I have unlocked and rooted and xposedmoto has meant I can get rid of the WiFi gap, network icon etc.
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Could you post a screenshot of the fixed WiFi gap?
Where did you import from? EBay?
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I imported from a friend of a friend.. But they are on eBay yeah. Factor in VAT if you importing as I got hit with £95 bill
If you can live with 16GB of storage, just import the Rogers version (for the unlockable bootloader).
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Struggling with getting the Dev edition and just getting the Verizon version when motomaker hits Verizon. There's the obvious plus with getting the Dev edition but I'm not crazy about the color scheme. Thoughts?
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I hope so!
I'm really getting tired of waiting... I saw Sprint and US Cellular have been added to the list of unlock codes posted by Motorola, no word on Verizon that I've heard. I did hear Dev Editions are about 2 weeks out, but I haven't seen that confirmed. I don't really care about picking my own color, it'd be nice but... I don't mind the color scheme of the Dev Edition or just getting friggin' a black one. I just would like Verizon to say when Dev Editions will be available or Motorola or Verizon to say if the codes will be coming out ever. I really want to get one the beginning of this week but don't know which way to go myself...
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I'm really getting tired of waiting... I saw Sprint and US Cellular have been added to the list of unlock codes posted by Motorola, no word on Verizon that I've heard.
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Oops - I somehow missed that you're on Verizon. Both AT&T and Verizon have made their stance on unlocked bootloaders pretty clear.
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I imported from a friend of a friend.. But they are on eBay yeah. Factor in VAT if you importing as I got hit with £95 bill
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So beautiful without the AT&T logo and the stupid WiFi gap.
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Oops - I somehow missed that you're on Verizon. Both AT&T and Verizon have made their stance on unlocked bootloaders pretty clear.
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Yeah that is true. I don't quite understand the difference of offering me a code or selling me a dev edition but I rarely understand them. If anything they'd have a bit of proof of me voiding my warranty. I'll keep my cracked G nexus for a bit longer I suppose, see what time tells.
The Dev edition wont be available direct from at and t or verison. It is just able to be used on the network if bought from moto/best buy etc
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The Dev edition wont be available direct from at and t or verison. It is just able to be used on the network if bought from moto/best buy etc
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Really... Any word on when bestbuy will sell or if you're still able to use an upgrade / subsidized price with them? I guess either way that tips the scale in my scenario though. Ordering by 3PM will get it in my hands Wednesday, probably doing that.
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Yeah. I know if I get the Dev edition I'd have to go through moto which I rather do cause I rather moto profit from my $600 something than VZW. But I think I'm more leaning towards moto maker when it hits VZW and the only reason I'm okay with this is because I think I could live with the moto x without being a crack flasher.
Looks like Dev edition only available in black or white oof contract from moto. T-Mobile is now and only available direct also
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I'm holding out on getting the developer edition although I'm getting a little impatient since not much has been announced. I've been spoiled by my G-nex's unlockable bootloader
I own the black moto x on verizon and im in love with the phone. Ill most likely sell this phone on swappa and pay a few extra bucks and get the DEV edition when its out. I feel like a solid black or white phone would be easier to resell.
So before the latest news about google selling moto,....... don't get me started here I ordered a dev edition for $379.
Anyway thoughts on if it is worth the $125 dollar difference in cost ( price of new dev edition - selling price my old x)
Worth the cost? I am rooted now on my X but thinking the dev ed was (before the sale of moto) more future proof?
Maybe now the unlocked boot loader is more important because of the sale?
Thoughts???
In short, the developer edition is unrestricted in the fact once you've unlocked the bootloader, you can flash any rom that's available. It's technically "future proof" in the sense that as long as developers are making roms, it will continue to get the latest AOSP updates, or in the case of the Eclipse rom, it is AOSP while retaining stock features. I don't think you made a mistake in getting the developer edition, I made a mistake getting the moto maker X and I'm kicking myself because now that Google sold Moto to Lenovo, it's possible we won't see the updates that Moto was pushing so fast. I think as long as the software team at Moto stay in place, though, and Lenovo doesn't touch what the X and the G are all about, we ultimately will see the same basic process in terms of updates and the way the X and G are almost AOSP. Dev edition really isn't more expensive, the 32GB MM is the same price as a Dev edition, which has the same 32GB of space. Only difference is you're getting an open device instead of one that is closed to modification.
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So before the latest news about google selling moto,....... don't get me started here I ordered a dev edition for $379.
Anyway thoughts on if it is worth the $125 dollar difference in cost ( price of new dev edition - selling price my old x)
Worth the cost? I am rooted now on my X but thinking the dev ed was (before the sale of moto) more future proof?
Maybe now the unlocked boot loader is more important because of the sale?
Thoughts???
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balleron24z said:
In short, the developer edition is unrestricted in the fact once you've unlocked the bootloader, you can flash any rom that's available. It's technically "future proof" in the sense that as long as developers are making roms, it will continue to get the latest AOSP updates, or in the case of the Eclipse rom, it is AOSP while retaining stock features. I don't think you made a mistake in getting the developer edition, I made a mistake getting the moto maker X and I'm kicking myself because now that Google sold Moto to Lenovo, it's possible we won't see the updates that Moto was pushing so fast. I think as long as the software team at Moto stay in place, though, and Lenovo doesn't touch what the X and the G are all about, we ultimately will see the same basic process in terms of updates and the way the X and G are almost AOSP. Dev edition really isn't more expensive, the 32GB MM is the same price as a Dev edition, which has the same 32GB of space. Only difference is you're getting an open device instead of one that is closed to modification.
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Not trying to start a flame war, but by the time Lenovo takes over, your X will be on your shelf and you'll be rocking a new phone anyway. All this panic is getting old. This deal has to go through all sorts of approvals will probably take a year or more before it takes shape. Plus, it's not like Lenovo bought Moto to totally dismantle it. They didn't become the dominant force in the PC world by making stupid decisions. Moto has huge brand name recognition in the US and they are currently making great strides with the X and G.
I actually think this will be a huge success for Moto. Also remember Moto has pushed a bunch of apps to the play store making updates Super easy.
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rweddy1 said:
So before the latest news about google selling moto,....... don't get me started here I ordered a dev edition for $379.
Anyway thoughts on if it is worth the $125 dollar difference in cost ( price of new dev edition - selling price my old x)
Worth the cost? I am rooted now on my X but thinking the dev ed was (before the sale of moto) more future proof?
Maybe now the unlocked boot loader is more important because of the sale?
Thoughts???
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Isn't there also a difference in the frequency bands between the Dev edition and regular unlocked model? I'm interested in the Dev edition but if I'm not mistaking its missing the 1700 band for 3g. Correct me if I'm wrong.
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balleron24z said:
In short, the developer edition is unrestricted in the fact once you've unlocked the bootloader, you can flash any rom that's available. It's technically "future proof" in the sense that as long as developers are making roms, it will continue to get the latest AOSP updates, or in the case of the Eclipse rom, it is AOSP while retaining stock features. I don't think you made a mistake in getting the developer edition, I made a mistake getting the moto maker X and I'm kicking myself because now that Google sold Moto to Lenovo, it's possible we won't see the updates that Moto was pushing so fast. I think as long as the software team at Moto stay in place, though, and Lenovo doesn't touch what the X and the G are all about, we ultimately will see the same basic process in terms of updates and the way the X and G are almost AOSP. Dev edition really isn't more expensive, the 32GB MM is the same price as a Dev edition, which has the same 32GB of space. Only difference is you're getting an open device instead of one that is closed to modification.
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Great points. I loved Eclipse ROM on my G. Nexus, have to look into that once I get the Dev Edition.
It'd be good to look at the specs on the model you plan on getting, because there's a Dev edition for CDMA and for GSM, and different model numbers for them. But I believe you're right as well.
Henrock11 said:
Isn't there also a difference in the frequency bands between the Dev edition and regular unlocked model? I'm interested in the Dev edition but if I'm not mistaking its missing the 1700 band for 3g. Correct me if I'm wrong.
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I can partially agree, Schaweet. I think that as long as the reigns are with Moto, then everything will stay great as is. Maybe even better, since Lenovo does have great products presently. Love their laptops/desktops. I'm just afraid that everything the Moto X and G are could be intruded upon by the software team at Lenovo, meaning the nice AOSP-type OS that Moto use might get a lot of unwanted modifications. I think that's the bigger concern, not how Moto will be as a company, but how their products will be influenced.
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Not trying to start a flame war, but by the time Lenovo takes over, your X will be on your shelf and you'll be rocking a new phone anyway. All this panic is getting old. This deal has to go through all sorts of approvals will probably take a year or more before it takes shape. Plus, it's not like Lenovo bought Moto to totally dismantle it. They didn't become the dominant force in the PC world by making stupid decisions. Moto has huge brand name recognition in the US and they are currently making great strides with the X and G.
I actually think this will be a huge success for Moto. Also remember Moto has pushed a bunch of apps to the play store making updates Super easy.
Sent from my Dev Edition Moto X
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Henrock11 said:
Isn't there also a difference in the frequency bands between the Dev edition and regular unlocked model? I'm interested in the Dev edition but if I'm not mistaking its missing the 1700 band for 3g. Correct me if I'm wrong.
Sent from my Nexus 5 using xda app-developers app
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I am not sure, I referring to the Verizon Edition, GSM might be different.
Henrock11 said:
Isn't there also a difference in the frequency bands between the Dev edition and regular unlocked model? I'm interested in the Dev edition but if I'm not mistaking its missing the 1700 band for 3g. Correct me if I'm wrong.
Sent from my Nexus 5 using xda app-developers app
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Here you go.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moto_X
That shows the frequencies per model.
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balleron24z said:
It'd be good to look at the specs on the model you plan on getting, because there's a Dev edition for CDMA and for GSM, and different model numbers for them. But I believe you're right as well.
I can partially agree, Schaweet. I think that as long as the reigns are with Moto, then everything will stay great as is. Maybe even better, since Lenovo does have great products presently. Love their laptops/desktops. I'm just afraid that everything the Moto X and G are could be intruded upon by the software team at Lenovo, meaning the nice AOSP-type OS that Moto use might get a lot of unwanted modifications. I think that's the bigger concern, not how Moto will be as a company, but how their products will be influenced.
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Fair enough. It's a total guess about what they will do with the UI. I can say with a high degree of confidence that they won't update the X and add their UI. Going forward though, you never know. I'd hope they'd just push and market Motos existing strategy, but that's my consumer side hope. I would think the near AOSP UI that Moto has could be enough to provide the product difference they want to separate them from everyone else without some silly skin like TV.
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So my phone recently upgraded itself to .49 without me telling it to. I'd here any way to downgrade it to .44? I was planning to unlock it but hadn't gotten around to it. Thanks!
No.
NO.the .49 already update the bootloader
FrostedWaffle said:
So my phone recently upgraded itself to .49 without me telling it to. I'd here any way to downgrade it to .44? I was planning to unlock it but hadn't gotten around to it. Thanks!
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Unfortunately friend I'm on the same boat. I've looked everywhere and everyone says its not possible as of right now. I'm sure there will be a solution in the future We just gotta wait it out.
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blackra1n said:
Unfortunately friend I'm on the same boat. I've looked everywhere and everyone says its not possible as of right now. I'm sure there will be a solution in the future We just gotta wait it out.
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Hate to be pessimistic, but don't be so sure. Took a year to find the first exploit when Sunshine devs were actively looking. Best bet is to sell it on Swappa and buy another that does not have the "49" OTA trojan horse Verizon update.
ChazzMatt said:
Hate to be pessimistic, but don't be so sure. Took a year to find the first exploit when Sunshine devs were actively looking. Best bet is to sell it on Swappa and buy another that does not have the "49" OTA trojan horse Verizon update.
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Oh well, I guess I'll just wait on MM from Motorola then. Gonna go with a Nexus next time lol. Thanks for helping me to learn not to trust you Verizon!
FrostedWaffle said:
Oh well, I guess I'll just wait on MM from Motorola then. Gonna go with a Nexus next time lol. Thanks for helping me to learn not to trust you Verizon!
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Right. Verizon could easily allow Motorola to unlock the bootloaders. Verizon is the one who demands Motorola lock it down and keep it locked down.
The identical Quark to the Droid Turbo, the U.S. Moto Maxx XT1250, same FCC ID, same Verizon bands, etc. runs just fine on Verizon with an activated Verizon SIM card and has an easily unlockable bootloader via the Motorola website. It's sort of the "dev" version of the Droid Turbo XT1254, but only comes in 32GB. No 64GB available.
But it's identical in every way. People have even flashed Droid Turbo stock ROM over it.
Point is, Verizon is to blame. They want to own and control your phone, no matter what.