Database Develop

Upgrading Phone: Note 3 or Note 4?

I am a Sprint customer and currently own a Lg Optimus G. I am ready for an upgrade and am gonna go for a 2 year contract, my question is should I go for the previous Note 3 for only $99 ? Or get the new Note 4 for $299 ? I was also considering the G3 but with the problems I had with the Opimus Im not sure if I want to go back to LG, plus the Note seems to offer a lot of cool features I am interested in. Also is there any new news on the Note Edge? Ive only heard of it not seen it. Thanks for any help.

the note 4 is a great phone just go with the latest and greatest! The edge is coming out on the 14th for ATT and i know that because i work for ATT but idk about the other carriers.

If you can wait another 3 to 4 months with upgrading, the Note 4 will probably drop another 150 in price. Honestly the difference in price between the 3 and 4 is not really justified.

You would not be disappointed with either choice but the Note 4 is definately a noticeably better phone. If you're going to keep it for two years, you're probably better off going for the newer phone if you Can afford it.

Penley94 said:
I am a Sprint customer and currently own a Lg Optimus G. I am ready for an upgrade and am gonna go for a 2 year contract, my question is should I go for the previous Note 3 for only $99 ? Or get the new Note 4 for $299 ? I was also considering the G3 but with the problems I had with the Opimus Im not sure if I want to go back to LG, plus the Note seems to offer a lot of cool features I am interested in. Also is there any new news on the Note Edge? Ive only heard of it not seen it. Thanks for any help.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
For me its not even close. Some say the Note 4 isnt enough of an upgrade over the Note 3, for me its a HUGE upgrade over it. The pen alone is far better on the note 4, but even the multitasking and the screen and the feel of the phone, and the faster Android L and so on and so forth... Id say go for the Note 4. Im currently using the Note 3 while my 4 is in the repairshop and I really miss a lot from the Note 4...

nazzo123 said:
the note 4 is a great phone just go with the latest and greatest! The edge is coming out on the 14th for ATT and i know that because i work for ATT but idk about the other carriers.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The Note Edge looks interesting, how much will it be?

I am thinking I will go with the newer Note 4 or Edge since I will have it for the next 2 years. It just sucks having to spend the extra $200 for it. Will there be a lot of developement for it? And any other phones (Sprint) that I shoyld take a look at before deciding? As I am still nit fully decided.

Note 4 without question, best phone I've had in years

Consider the Huawei Mate 7, and the Nexus 6. They are closer in regard to screen size, but for me they are merely big phones, lacking what makes the note 4 a great phone; spen, multitasking, the screen etc.

Penley94 said:
I am thinking I will go with the newer Note 4 or Edge since I will have it for the next 2 years. It just sucks having to spend the extra $200 for it. Will there be a lot of developement for it? And any other phones (Sprint) that I shoyld take a look at before deciding? As I am still nit fully decided.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
We need development? This phone is pretty close to perfect out of the box, it's the first phone I don't feel like I even have to root.

Upgrade from Note 3

Hi I have a Note 3 with me and I got a Note 4 during Cyber monday and I also have a T-Mobile gc for 100 off. Also T-Mobile is buying back my Note 3 for 325. So my cost for the Note 4 is 325 (650-325 Trade in credit) I am confused now as is it worth it to spend the extra money now. Can people who have upgraded from Note 3 to Note 4 comment on this.
A couple of things about me.
Wife has a iphone 6 plus and we take pics with the 6 plus so I can live without a not so gr8 camers.
I dont game at all.
I love the Spen and take notes also browse the web a lot o my phone.

I went from the 3 to 4. The s pen on the 4 is better. I draw etc and it works so much nicer. I also like the upgraded software for the pen.
sent from my GN4 N910T 4.4.4 stock rooted

That's good to know, I don't draw but I like to write with the pen. other than that how is the rest. The writing is really nice on the Note 3 also. Overall how is tue performance of Note 4 805 processor?
Another thing is we are also going to get 64 bit processor Soon- And the Note 5 next year will definitely have 64 bit processor. So I am really confused is it worth while to wait or upgrade and more over my Note 3 is in good condition.

Well all I can say is everything I do feels faster. Chromecast video play better. I do a mix of reading, watching videos, games, drawing, writing and replaced my PC with the note line. The Note 4 only has 2 things I don't like. I don't need QHD, it makes on screen elements a little to small in Ingress. The other is they didn't keep the temperature sensor. Other then those two minor issues I can't find issue with it.
I can't wait to see some custom ROMs over the next few months. I have owned a lot of phones and tablets and by far the Note 4 is my favorite. I do use Nova launcher since I can't stand the limits in TW.
sent from my GN4 N910T 4.4.4 stock rooted

Well I know the s6 was supposed to cone with new chip set but they stopped that. Nobody knows what note 5 will come with. 32 works great so is 64 gonna be better. Who knows. Samsung don't even know yet. They still have no real idea till they fix issues with s6 and then maybe focus on 5.0 for note 4 then get back to building note 5
BAD ASS NOTE 4

It's probably an unpopular opinion to have in this forum, but i'm a little disappointed I spent the money to upgrade. It's not to say the Note 4 isn't a great phone, out of anything out there right now it's an easy pick for me, but it is in no way a significant upgrade from the 3. There are some very slight improvements, the screen for one. The screen on the 3 was already stellar, so it's hard to achieve a major upgrade here. The camera gets slightly more detail, although the photos are noisier and have more sharpening added to them (possibly the reason for the added noise?). The battery life is worse, not by a significant amount, but it is still worse for me. I notice no speed difference at all, if one exists it's too slight for my level of perception. The speaker is worse, maybe not in quality, but in placement. The build is nicer, definitely feels higher quality, but this is perception too, the Note 3 was already proven to be quite tough. I keep my phone in a case, so that's ultimately not much of a benefit to me either. The fingerprint scanner I don't use, tried it and it often required multiple swipes, seems easier to just enter a code. The new white/cyan color scheme is atrocious, and I don't know what the hell they were thinking doing this on a phone with an AMOLED screen. Black backgrounds make MUCH more sense, not just to take advantage of high AMOLED contrast, but to conserve battery power also.
All in all, I regret spending $400 to upgrade, but the Note 4 is still an awesome phone. If I had been upgrading from an S4 or a Note 2, something along those lines, I think I would have a lot less regret about the money spent. Ultimately it depends on how much you want the slight improvements.

I came from an s4. Not a note 3.
But, I can tell you this phone is awesome. It's the "it" phone. And, will be for a long time.
Take the money for the note 3 and take the plunge.
My path has been g1and a wing, g2, s2, s3, s4, note 4.
I wouldn't have considered a note up until now because of the lack of development.
But, now. It's awesome. And, we are so lucky it's not locked down like the other carriers.
PS
We won't hate you because you admitted you have an iPhone.

Android_Monsters said:
I came from an s4. Not a note 3.
But, I can tell you this phone is awesome. It's the "it" phone. And, will be for a long time.
Take the money for the note 3 and take the plunge.
My path has been g1and a wing, g2, s2, s3, s4, note 4.
I wouldn't have considered a note up until now because of the lack of development.
But, now. It's awesome. And, we are so lucky it's not locked down like the other carriers.
PS
We won't hate you because you admitted you have an iPhone.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
We have the iPhone and there are some things which the iPhone is better, but again per me it all depends on what you do with the phone..

T mobile offered you 325 for your note 3? Last time I checked it was 190.
Sent from my SM-N910T using Tapatalk

Limeybastard said:
T mobile offered you 325 for your note 3? Last time I checked it was 190.
Sent from my SM-N910T using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yes I believe it is still there and also sprint offers the same you may match the trade in value with them.

kgbeezr1 said:
It's probably an unpopular opinion to have in this forum, but i'm a little disappointed I spent the money to upgrade. It's not to say the Note 4 isn't a great phone, out of anything out there right now it's an easy pick for me, but it is in no way a significant upgrade from the 3. There are some very slight improvements, the screen for one. The screen on the 3 was already stellar, so it's hard to achieve a major upgrade here. The camera gets slightly more detail, although the photos are noisier and have more sharpening added to them (possibly the reason for the added noise?). The battery life is worse, not by a significant amount, but it is still worse for me. I notice no speed difference at all, if one exists it's too slight for my level of perception. The speaker is worse, maybe not in quality, but in placement. The build is nicer, definitely feels higher quality, but this is perception too, the Note 3 was already proven to be quite tough. I keep my phone in a case, so that's ultimately not much of a benefit to me either. The fingerprint scanner I don't use, tried it and it often required multiple swipes, seems easier to just enter a code. The new white/cyan color scheme is atrocious, and I don't know what the hell they were thinking doing this on a phone with an AMOLED screen. Black backgrounds make MUCH more sense, not just to take advantage of high AMOLED contrast, but to conserve battery power also.
All in all, I regret spending $400 to upgrade, but the Note 4 is still an awesome phone. If I had been upgrading from an S4 or a Note 2, something along those lines, I think I would have a lot less regret about the money spent. Ultimately it depends on how much you want the slight improvements.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks for taking time to explain it. I do feel same but I also think by upgrading we will have a newer device and also the warranty is now extended to one more year. Look at this this way say if we were to sell our note 3 end of 2015 we would hardly get anything out of it but by selling note 4 at least we get 300 so our upgrade might be only 25..... That is where I have the whole confusion.
My Note 3 battery barely makes it to the end of the day. I am not rooted and don't want to as I use a lot of soft card for cash back. I definitely don't want to loose that.

steve_togo said:
Yes I believe it is still there and also sprint offers the same you may match the trade in value with them.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Oh right this must be for folks that are not existing t mobile customers .
Sent from my SM-N910T using Tapatalk

Limeybastard said:
Oh right this must be for folks that are not existing t mobile customers .
Sent from my SM-N910T using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Nope I am an existing customer. Did you check online.. What device do you have.

steve_togo said:
Nope I am an existing customer. Did you check online.. What device do you have.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I had checked. I upgraded from a note 3 to a note 4 a few weeks back actually. That's why I sold mine on craigs list for funnily enough $325 as T Mobile were offering peanuts.
By the way well worth the upgrade. Think of it a refinement at its best.
Sent from my SM-N910T using Tapatalk

Limeybastard said:
I had checked. I upgraded from a note 3 to a note 4 a few weeks back actually. That's why I sold mine on craigs list for funnily enough $325 as T Mobile were offering peanuts.
By the way well worth the upgrade. Think of it a refinement at its best.
Sent from my SM-N910T using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
How much did you pay and how many days has it been.

steve_togo said:
How much did you pay and how many days has it been.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
11/13 I beleive it was bought usual price whatever it was. I think 750 plus tax.
Sent from my SM-N910T using Tapatalk

Limeybastard said:
T mobile offered you 325 for your note 3? Last time I checked it was 190.
Sent from my SM-N910T using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yeah my friend just got a good deal I think is was a little bit less but I guessing phone still sells
BAD ASS NOTE 4

steve_togo said:
Thanks for taking time to explain it. I do feel same but I also think by upgrading we will have a newer device and also the warranty is now extended to one more year. Look at this this way say if we were to sell our note 3 end of 2015 we would hardly get anything out of it but by selling note 4 at least we get 300 so our upgrade might be only 25..... That is where I have the whole confusion.
My Note 3 battery barely makes it to the end of the day. I am not rooted and don't want to as I use a lot of soft card for cash back. I definitely don't want to loose that.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Good points, resale and warranty are valid reasons to trade up. My comments really focused on the complaints that I have with the phone as most other people have covered the high points, and of course there are many. It's subjective, obviously, but I don't think anything else out there at the moment surpasses it as a complete package.

I never owned a note 3 before. But I do own a 2012 Note 10.1 which I love very much. This Note 4 is even faster than my tablet and it really is impressive with everything I can do with it.
From Dante's Inferno via XDA Premium HD

Note 4 & Android M

In a couple of days Google will show a preview of Android M ie Android 5.2 which going off rumours is more about memory optimizations & bug fixes & better battery life....we've heard that before!!!! basically what Lollipop should have been from the off.
So the Note 4 as we all know it isn't the greatest smartphone when it comes to getting updates, moreso if your in the UK when we with BTU handsets have to wait until most of the carriers have released updates first before the simfree gets it.
Obviously Android M will be on the Note 5 first at launch, then next the S6 & S6 edge will be next in line to get the update sometime before Christmas.
So what about the Note 4?
Well if the Note 3 is anything to go by then I think we be forgotten well into next year, the Note 3 BTU in the UK still hasn't received Lollipop yet while all of the UK carriers have had it a while now.
I personally think if we see it before the S7 launch next year, then we done well
but I'm not holding my breath tbh.

One of the many reasons why I now regret getting an unlocked Note 4.
I'm waiting for I/O before I make a decision but it's likely I'll be going back to a Nexus or flash Cyanogen.
I'd really like Google to hold the OEMs to account on updates, most are committed to 2 years of updates but if it takes them 12 months to release said update it's likely they'll get away with doing the minimum.
HTC are the only company to commit to a 90 day rollout atm, others should follow suit.
Sent from my SM-N910F using Tapatalk

Try Cyanogenmod, if updates really matter to you then you won't regret it, and stock android is amazing

ixon2001 said:
In a couple of days Google will show a preview of Android M ie Android 5.2 which going off rumours is more about memory optimizations & bug fixes & better battery life....we've heard that before!!!! basically what Lollipop should have been from the off.
So the Note 4 as we all know it isn't the greatest smartphone when it comes to getting updates, moreso if your in the UK when we with BTU handsets have to wait until most of the carriers have released updates first before the simfree gets it.
Obviously Android M will be on the Note 5 first at launch, then next the S6 & S6 edge will be next in line to get the update sometime before Christmas.
So what about the Note 4?
Well if the Note 3 is anything to go by then I think we be forgotten well into next year, the Note 3 BTU in the UK still hasn't received Lollipop yet while all of the UK carriers have had it a while now.
I personally think if we see it before the S7 launch next year, then we done well
but I'm not holding my breath tbh.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
No point in guessing. Get the Nexus 6/Note 5 if you need android M (guessing it'll launch with lollipop and be updated in feb/march to android M). Updating older phones isn't really Samsung's thing, especially when they are busy working on newer handsets.

But the Note 4 isn't a old device it's only just over 6 months old now.
What i think the problem is with the Note series is 2 main reasons.
First they don't sell anywhere near as many as the S series because for alot of people the Note is just to big or to expensive on launch even with contracts.
Secondly because there is more going on within Touchwiz on the Note series ie S pen ect, it takes longer to debug the software before they release it.
The Note 3 is still a powerful & very capable Phablet, but now updates for that are few and far between, I wouldn't be surprised if the Note 3 doesn't get Android M even though it supposed to me more optimized, the likes of the Moto G & Nexus 4 & 5 will get it though.
What it points to if you like Samsung smartphones and want regular updates then don't buy the Note series while they are great on launch they soon forgotten by Samsung while they concentrated on the next big thing in case of the Note 4, the S6 now takes priority & the Note 5 to a certain degree in the Autumn for the first few months at least until the S7 launch next spring.
To me Samsung have a 6 month product cycle with the Note series in regards to regular updates before they put on the back burner somewhat, after that they concentrated more on the S series because even the S4 & S5 got lollipop before the Note 3 & Note 4 did.
Even though I really like my Note 4, I don't think i go down this route again with either the Note 5 or Note 6 depending on when i decide to buy a new phone, it probably be a Nexus next time around.

I am pretty sure that our phone will get android M if it is just a 5.2 release. Samsung may take a while, but eventually they update all their flagships. HTC may be faster but they promise updates for only a couple of smartphones. Even the One Mini 2 wont get lollipop...
I switched from two years with Nexus 4 and Nexus 7 combo to Note 4 a month ago. Even though Nexus 4 has android 5.1.1, it was full of bugs from the start. When you use a nexus you are kinda the beta tester. You get all the updates first, and all the bugs that come with new untested versions. Also Google can and will take months to release a point update to fix big bugs like camera crashes.
As someone already said, if you want nexus experience install Cyanogenmod or similar rom and you wont be far off.

I have BTU's (3 and 4), you just take whatever rom you want from Sammobile and flash with Odin, no need to wait at all. Knox at 0x0, job done. I'm currently on the French Note 4 ROM as it's the newest one out that's official.

joebongo said:
I have BTU's (3 and 4), you just take whatever rom you want from Sammobile and flash with Odin, no need to wait at all. Knox at 0x0, job done. I'm currently on the French Note 4 ROM as it's the newest one out that's official.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Which ROM is the French Note 4? Could you provide a link to the thread Thanks!

http://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/database/SM-N910F/
Top one on the list at the moment. SFR.

ixon2001 said:
Even though I really like my Note 4, I don't think i go down this route again with either the Note 5 or Note 6 depending on when i decide to buy a new phone, it probably be a Nexus next time around.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I can't agree more with you. I left Samsung when I changed from the Note 2, which was the BEST phone I had ever owned. But it kept getting slower and slower, battery with every update was worse. So I changed to other phones and I really liked the other phones. I came back to the Note 4 thinking "Wow, awesome hardware, and Samsung is doing a great job with updates 2 years later" and I couldn't be more wrong. I'm thinking about just taking the hit and selling my Note 4 and going for the Nexus 6. But I see the Nexus 6 has its own issues. I also thought about the Xperia Z3 as Sony takes pretty good care of their devices in terms of software, and I see that they are also having issues. It seems like Android 5.0.1 is a terrible update for ALL phones. Since the Nexus 6 is on 5.1, and it seems to have fixed most major problems, I'll wait a month or so to see if Samsung fixes anything. If they don't, I'll just send Samsung off and never buy another darn samsung device again!!!
---------- Post added at 09:41 AM ---------- Previous post was at 09:39 AM ----------
joebongo said:
http://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/database/SM-N910F/
Top one on the list at the moment. SFR.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Awesome, thanks. And this can be flashed without tripping NOX to my DBT device?

Not sure what a DBT is but my note 4 has had 4 ROMS so far, EE, unbranded X2 and the SFR and I just checked in download mode knox is 0x0.
Plenty of guides out there. As far as I know flashing official ROMs is fine, it's when you have to root to install proper custom firmware the knox trips.
---------- Post added at 08:56 AM ---------- Previous post was at 08:53 AM ----------
Oh now don't expect miracles with the SFR ROM. It seems a little better with regard to battery so far 4 days in.

joebongo said:
Not sure what a DBT is but my note 4 has had 4 ROMS so far, EE, unbranded X2 and the SFR and I just checked in download mode knox is 0x0.
Plenty of guides out there. As far as I know flashing official ROMs is fine, it's when you have to root to install proper custom firmware the knox trips.
---------- Post added at 08:56 AM ---------- Previous post was at 08:53 AM ----------
Oh now don't expect miracles with the SFR ROM. It seems a little better with regard to battery so far 4 days in.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
DBT is the German unlocked model haha.
How's your battery life?
And if I might ask, do you have:
-lag when pressing multitasking button?
-lag when reviewing picture recently taken?

My 2 cents is, just because there is a new Android version doesn't make lollipop rubbish and it certainly doesn't make the note 4 a bad phone. If the note 4 got the new android a week after it was launched, the forum would then be full of threads saying how bad battery life was and how buggy the software was and "i'm going back to lollipop".
This happens every time a new Android version comes out, with all phones, without fail.
It is human nature to want what you haven't got.
sent from my Galaxy Note 4

zkyevolved said:
DBT is the German unlocked model haha.
How's your battery life?
And if I might ask, do you have:
-lag when pressing multitasking button?
-lag when reviewing picture recently taken?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The battery life isn't too bad - off charger at 6am, an hour's screen time and a few calls today in an area with very poor signal (countryside) and I'm on 77%. Graph says 2 days left at current rates. Hasn't been as good as that previously but I was running Nova launcher with the entire home screen full of widgets. I'm back on a more plain TW home screen with just a couple of widgets.
Edit: I have got rid of the multitask lag via this tip: http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4-verizon/help/fix-lag-delay-hitting-multitasking-t2939700 and I don't really think there's a noticeable lag from camera to gallery.

every Android phone has some sort of defect or issue nowadays. Apparently theres some battery swelling issue on the N6 and whatnot, among others..Every other vendor gets poor updates, Nexus 9 was slower to update than samsung devices and that device SUCKS (i own one, and its the worst tablet ive ever seen).
Sadly, if you want that feeling that the manufacturer cares about your device and will update it/own issues...Apple is the only route...Ill probably get the 6s or 6plusS this year, AOSP camera apps arent as good as the OEM ones, but using TW roms is cancer.

joebongo said:
The battery life isn't too bad - off charger at 6am, an hour's screen time and a few calls today in an area with very poor signal (countryside) and I'm on 77%. Graph says 2 days left at current rates. Hasn't been as good as that previously but I was running Nova launcher with the entire home screen full of widgets. I'm back on a more plain TW home screen with just a couple of widgets.
Edit: I have got rid of the multitask lag via this tip: http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4-verizon/help/fix-lag-delay-hitting-multitasking-t2939700 and I don't really think there's a noticeable lag from camera to gallery.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I can tell you that I had already tried that fix, and it didn't help... The biggest help was disabling talk back... But even then... lag....
---------- Post added at 11:37 PM ---------- Previous post was at 11:34 PM ----------
Rekzer said:
every Android phone has some sort of defect or issue nowadays. Apparently theres some battery swelling issue on the N6 and whatnot, among others..Every other vendor gets poor updates, Nexus 9 was slower to update than samsung devices and that device SUCKS (i own one, and its the worst tablet ive ever seen).
Sadly, if you want that feeling that the manufacturer cares about your device and will update it/own issues...Apple is the only route...Ill probably get the 6s or 6plusS this year, AOSP camera apps arent as good as the OEM ones, but using TW roms is cancer.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I suppose in every batch there are some bad batches. I have a Samsung Galaxy Tab Pro 8.4, which runs FASTER than my Note 4. This just isn't right. I can multitask like a champ with that tablet, and so much more stable and reliable...
I'm somewhat disappointed with my Sammy phone (Note 4)... But i'll give it some time and see if Sammy can fix some of these issues. If not, then I'm done with Samsung. I had the G3 and it was an awesome phone, too, until Lollipop ruined the experience with lags and battery issues. Why do these OEMs update if they know they're having issues? Samsung MUST know about these issues, and yet, they still release new ROMS that don't fix them.

Rekzer said:
AOSP camera apps arent as good as the OEM ones, but using TW roms is cancer.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Personally I think snap camera is better than the TW stock camera, way more options to fine tune.

I doubt that the Note 5 will ship with M, Its the Dev release that has come out only just now... the Note 5 is likely to drop around November so thats 5 months.
Seems a little too quick for Samsung.

senectus said:
I doubt that the Note 5 will ship with M, Its the Dev release that has come out only just now... the Note 5 is likely to drop around November so thats 5 months.
Seems a little too quick for Samsung.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Agreed, Android M will be released around the time that the Note 5 will be released, so no way Samsung will have it on their Note 5 already. They need at least 2 months to adapt it.

senectus said:
I doubt that the Note 5 will ship with M, Its the Dev release that has come out only just now... the Note 5 is likely to drop around November so thats 5 months.
Seems a little too quick for Samsung.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
They aren't adding that many new features so Android M could potentially launch sooner.

From bad to worse! Note 5 not available in Europe!

Just watched the unpacked and it was all a bit MEH.
Samsung say they won't even release the note 5 in Europe so it has got even worse!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-33859952
I hope LG are reading these threads!

The S6 Edge plus is now available for pre-register on Samsung UK but no sign of the Note 5 so even if you wanted one you can't LOL!
http://www.samsung.com/uk/home/

Does anyone know what the price of the s6 edge plus will be? In UK
Sent from my SM-N910F using Tapatalk

Samsung really are going downhill, lack of support for the Note 4 now this, if you want a Phablet this year better to wait for the Moto X style or the Nexus both 5.7" and both will get superb support.
---------- Post added at 05:33 PM ---------- Previous post was at 05:32 PM ----------
Drizzy xS said:
Does anyone know what the price of the s6 edge plus will be? In UK
Sent from my SM-N910F using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Around £600+ for the 32GB version i would guess.

I'm starting to think Samsung is attempting to bankrupt themselves...
"Marketing reasons". According to Tweakers, the reason is "Because Europeans haven't been using the stylus for years". Their market research team is comprised of morons, it seems.
Either that, or they're postponing it for Europe until the Snapdragon is available...

This is utterly stupid. I honestly hope this fails big time.

Africa 404 not found ...

Note 4 the last of the greats
I think we can now finally say the Note 4 was the last of Samsung's best products.
Its bad enough that the Note 5 has been stripped of major features like MicroSD and IR Blaster, but they then go on to not make it available globally and force the crap S6 Edge+ on us.
I am truly disappointed. I have no idea where to go now from Samsung, maybe to Motorola or Sony, but none of their products match up to the Note 4.

They've amended their statement pretty quickly...
Samsung now says they won't release it in the EU this year, but that they "will look at further opportunities to launch the Galaxy Note 5 in other markets based on individual market situations"
Which makes a tiny bit of sense, because they don't have much to fear from Apple in the EU. Apple's market share is only 12% here.
I'm starting to suspect a Note 5+ to be released alongside the S7 in April, with an S820. Europe's Note devices have always been Snapdragons, with the Exynos models being the models for less advanced markets. Considering the S6+ today, it's not a big leap to expect a Note 5+.

Galaxaster said:
Just watched the unpacked and it was all a bit MEH.
Samsung say they won't even release the note 5 in Europe so it has got even worse!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-33859952
I hope LG are reading these threads!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The worse part is the 3000mah. Its gonna last 3 hrs heavy use . Max.

toofimoofi said:
The worse part is the 3000mah. Its gonna last 3 hrs heavy use . Max.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I really don't understand where you get your numbers from. It had 220mah less than a note 4 however has more efficient processor more efficient software and more efficient screen, the note 4 lasts roughly 5 hours SOT with less efficient hw. Yes the note 5 will be a pile of crap but don't try and make out it will be a bigger pile of crap than the note 4, I think android M will make it an absolute beast as well if they focus properly on their new phones. What I don't understand is, will the s6 edge plus be considered a flagship over the edge? And be considered first for updates or will they job it out like the note 4?
Sent from my SM-N910F using Tapatalk

Shame that the best features for power users are being removed from the Note 5.... No removable battery, no MIcroSD slot, no IR blaster..... Also shame that it won't be available in Europe.
I wonder what is Samsung thinking?

So, what did we get this year?
1. No SD Card slot.
2. No IR Blaster.
3. No removable battery.
4. Smaller battery.
5. The Note 5 will Not get to Europe.
Good job Samsung, you know how to satisfy your customers.

Drizzy xS said:
I really don't understand where you get your numbers from. It had 220mah less than a note 4 however has more efficient processor more efficient software and more efficient screen, the note 4 lasts roughly 5 hours SOT with less efficient hw. Yes the note 5 will be a pile of crap but don't try and make out it will be a bigger pile of crap than the note 4, I think android M will make it an absolute beast as well if they focus properly on their new phones. What I don't understand is, will the s6 edge plus be considered a flagship over the edge? And be considered first for updates or will they job it out like the note 4?
Sent from my SM-N910F using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Android M will not get on this phone till late spring.
Note 4 ?

I think samsung will launch improved version for europe next year.

Drizzy xS said:
I really don't understand where you get your numbers from. It had 220mah less than a note 4 however has more efficient processor more efficient software and more efficient screen, the note 4 lasts roughly 5 hours SOT with less efficient hw. Yes the note 5 will be a pile of crap but don't try and make out it will be a bigger pile of crap than the note 4, I think android M will make it an absolute beast as well if they focus properly on their new phones. What I don't understand is, will the s6 edge plus be considered a flagship over the edge? And be considered first for updates or will they job it out like the note 4?
Sent from my SM-N910F using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
After 6 months the battery won't hold a charge nearly as well; I have two batteries and the original is clearly a lot worse already (bought my phone i January). With the new battery I get around 7 hours of SoT (see the battery thread), and with the old one I get around 5 1/2. The Note 4 definitely isn't a pile of crap, but samsung are actively trying to make it worse than it is by not releasing updates and making sure we have the latest touchwiz etc. The Note 5 is a complete joke.

Come to Israel Next week they are giving 200 people who sign up a Note 5 with a charging cradle.
They assume it will cost 940 euros.

AndroidState said:
Come to Israel Next week they are giving 200 people who sign up a Note 5 with a charging cradle.
They assume it will cost 940 euros.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Source, please?

AndroidState said:
Come to Israel Next week they are giving 200 people who sign up a Note 5 with a charging cradle.
They assume it will cost 940 euros.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
940euros? That's insane considering it isn't much of an upgrade from the Note 4. I paid ~530€ for my Note 4 and it came with an external battery (3500mAh).

Toss3 said:
940euros? That's insane considering it isn't much of an upgrade from the Note 4. I paid ~530€ for my Note 4 and it came with an external battery (3500mAh).
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yeah, usually its us who go to europe to buy phones because the taxes here are insane (50% all together)
I paid the mutch for Note 4.
---------- Post added at 08:17 AM ---------- Previous post was at 08:14 AM ----------
Li-Pol said:
Source, please?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'm not uploading a photo for sceptics
תתקשר לסניף של סאני ותשלם 200 שקל הרשמה.

Anyone jumping ship?

So it's that time of year again when a new and honestly beastly lime of Samsung flagships is announced. The Galaxy S20 line looks legitimately promising but is it enought to give up the Note 9 and S pen though? Or are you gonna wait to see what the Note 20/+/Ultra has to offer a few months down the line.
I wanna see everyone's view on these new phones that ol Sammy has announced. I'm personally on the fence. I want the new tech but I just know the Note line will blow it out of the water later this year so it leaves room for a potential bait and switch lol.
What about you all?

Note line for me. Still have my Original Note1,2,3,4,5,FE,8,9,10...gonna see what Note11(20) has in store. If anything like the S20 I I'm sure it will be a beast.
Sent from my SM-N960U using Tapatalk

butchieboy said:
Note line for me. Still have my Original Note1,2,3,4,5,FE,8,9,10...gonna see what Note11(20) has in store. If anything like the S20 I I'm sure it will be a beast.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It'll most likely be even more of a best but I'm still on the fence to be honest. Like I want to check out the 20 Ultra but I know it's be upset if I got it and then the note big brother died up later lol

Never cause I hate iOS cloned software

dave678 said:
Never cause I hate iOS cloned software
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
What do you mean

Note line as long as the hole in the screen is gone. Nothing about the S line has ever really want me to part with money.

KingVekxin said:
So it's that time of year again when a new and honestly beastly lime of Samsung flagships is announced. The Galaxy S20 line looks legitimately promising but is it enought to give up the Note 9 and S pen though? Or are you gonna wait to see what the Note 20/+/Ultra has to offer a few months down the line.
I wanna see everyone's view on these new phones that ol Sammy has announced. I'm personally on the fence. I want the new tech but I just know the Note line will blow it out of the water later this year so it leaves room for a potential bait and switch lol.
What about you all?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'm intrigued with just about any new midrange to flagship phone that comes out.
However, I usually steer clear of the S lineup for a few reasons.
1) No S-Pen. I rarely use it, but, it's nice to have when you want/need it. The price difference between the top of the line S series & the Note is negligible considering you get the S-Pen & usually some newer hardware/software features.
2) I don't particularly care for the curves on the S series, preferring the boxier look of the Note.
3) The hole punch. Yeah, you can (probably) hide it, just as you can on the Note 10, but, that kinda sux that you sacrifice screen real estate for a cleaner look. The fact that all the marketing pix hide it w/dark gradient wallpapers & having a software option to hide it is an admission that it's an awful stopgap before the hidden FFC's are available.
I'd be lying if I said I'm not tempted to get the S20 Ultra. The 5G speeds alone are definitely appreciable, both the Note 10 & OP7T Pro are definitely snappier with it. However, the eye-watering price of $1400-$1600 USD is a hard pill to swallow.
The only way I'll jump ship is if pre-order trade-in offers on the carriers (T-Mobile US here) is a lot better than the $300 that Samsung is offering. Otherwise, I'm hanging on to the Note 9 until the Note 20 arrives, or longer. Mine is running just as well as it did on opening day & battery health is still around the 95% range,kinda hard to trade it in for the measly $210 that T-Mobile is currently offering. (Not particularly interested in bothering with listing it on Swappa & the like, last time I checked,way too many available for sale,it's a buyer's market)
In the meantime, I scratched my itch for new hardware yesterday.
T-Mobile slashed the price of their Pixel 4 lineup:
Pixel 4XL was $899,sale price as of 2/12/20: $499.
Pixel 4 was $799,now 50% off as of 2/12/20: $399.
Got it (4XL) on T-Mobile's JOD, $0 down & free overnight shipping, ETA 2/14/20.
Will use it as a daily driver for the first week or two, long enough to determine if it's a keeper (for a backup/secondary phone) or, send it back during the buyer's remorse grace period.
Is the S20 worth getting?
I wouldn't fault anyone who doesn't want to wait for the next Note to land, but, I'd definitely stay away from the smallest one, as it doesn't have the MM Wave variety of 5G. Yeah, I know 99% of the US doesn't even have it available, present company included, however, @ $1000, no sale here.
Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Note Fan Edition using XDA Labs

Still loving my note 9. I see no reason to upgrade. Note9 still is peak smartphone for me. Note 10 was a step backwards (I don't like notches or holes in my display, and I like my headphone jack).
Note 11 or 20 or whatever likely isn't an upgrade for me either. Note 9 still goes two days on a charge unless I game on it, still fast as when I bought it, and still takes great photos. I'll wait until some of that changes.

My wife and I might be switching to something a little more stock related later this year. Just tired of bloat, crappy support when it comes to issues, and definitely something a lot cheaper. Maybe if Google does things right, I might just get two Pixel 4a/XL or whatever when they eventually come out? Not sure to be honest. OnePlus is now up there with the big guys in pricing so that might not happen. Don't know, but I do know that I will be keeping my Note 9 as a backup.

KingVekxin said:
What do you mean
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Compare iOS 12 to Pie and you'll see what I mean. Google decided to clone iOS 12 with Pie

dave678 said:
Compare iOS 12 to Pie and you'll see what I mean. Google decided to clone iOS 12 with Pie
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Fam, please don't start that here. That subject has been killed by dark matter long after humans were wiped out the first time around.
^ yeah, that's how ridiculous it is.??*

Jammol said:
My wife and I might be switching to something a little more stock related later this year. Just tired of bloat, crappy support when it comes to issues, and definitely something a lot cheaper. Maybe if Google does things right, I might just get two Pixel 4a/XL or whatever when they eventually come out? Not sure to be honest. OnePlus is now up there with the big guys in pricing so that might not happen. Don't know, but I do know that I will be keeping my Note 9 as a backup.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'm gonna try my best to keep my 9 but I can't do pixels only because Google refuses to put in a micro SD card slot. That and the specs don't ever really impress me. There's never a wow factor. Besides it being stock Android there's nothing cool about it

Jammol said:
Fam, please don't start that here. That subject has been killed by dark matter long after humans were wiped out the first time around.
^ yeah, that's how ridiculous it is.??*
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
C'mon man it's basically the truth. Why are there so many similarities then if Google supposedly didn't clone iOS 12?

dave678 said:
C'mon man it's basically the truth. Why are there so many similarities then if Google supposedly didn't clone iOS 12?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Did you know cars have 4 wheels, and some even have 3? Brakes, windows, and engine, some gas, electric, diesel, and now hydrogen? They even have lights. Whoa. Wait, they should stop cloning each other!!!! I want a car without disc brakes!!! Needs to use polarity transfer for stopping before I buy it....
Bruh, it's called competition. You have to use some of the likeness of your competition if you're trying to tell their customers, "hey you can do the same thing over here, but a little cheaper." Well, you don't have to, but it sure makes it easier to win. I don't know what to tell you man. Go buy a windows phone? Oh wait those are the same too....
By the way, at the core of ios and android....same architecture...tsk, stupid clones, they're even using the same screens...?
??*
---------- Post added at 02:51 PM ---------- Previous post was at 02:47 PM ----------
KingVekxin said:
I'm gonna try my best to keep my 9 but I can't do pixels only because Google refuses to put in a micro SD card slot. That and the specs don't ever really impress me. There's never a wow factor. Besides it being stock Android there's nothing cool about it
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yeah, the one thing I hate about the pixels is the affordability no longer really being a bumped compared to my Note 9. Putting shiny wrapping on a turd doesn't make it hot sh....you know where I'm going with this.
Luckily for me, my wife doesn't even use the spen, so I just need to make sure I get her a phone that's compatible with xfinity mobile that won't cost an arm and leg. ?

Jammol said:
Did you know cars have 4 wheels, and some even have 3? Brakes, windows, and engine, some gas, electric, diesel, and now hydrogen? They even have lights. Whoa. Wait, they should stop cloning each other!!!! I want a car without disc brakes!!! Needs to use polarity transfer for stopping before I buy it....
Bruh, it's called competition. You have to use some of the likeness of your competition if you're trying to tell their customers, "hey you can do the same thing over here, but a little cheaper." Well, you don't have to, but it sure makes it easier to win. I don't know what to tell you man. Go buy a windows phone? Oh wait those are the same too....
By the way, at the core of ios and android....same architecture...tsk, stupid clones, they're even using the same screens...
??*
---------- Post added at 02:51 PM ---------- Previous post was at 02:47 PM ----------
Yeah, the one thing I hate about the pixels is the affordability no longer really being a bumped compared to my Note 9. Putting shiny wrapping on a turd doesn't make it hot sh....you know where I'm going with this.
Luckily for me, my wife doesn't even use the spen, so I just need to make sure I get her a phone that's compatible with xfinity mobile that won't cost an arm and leg.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Lol that's different. Google has decided to clone iOS since they ran out of new ideas

butchieboy said:
Note line for me. Still have my Original Note1,2,3,4,5,FE,8,9,10...gonna see what Note11(20) has in store. If anything like the S20 I I'm sure it will be a beast.
Sent from my SM-N960U using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Not liking the price though, it's getting to the point where it's outside my price range, no justification in spending so much on a pocket pc that can be damaged, lost or stolen so easily...
And the note lineup is gonna be so much more expensive than the S20 variants...

Nope, kinda pissed that the plain note 10 is smaller than the 9 the 10+ is the same size as the 9 so you pay more for less? I kind my full rounded screen. The notch hole punch, whatever their doing these days. I like having a whole screen. The biggest thing for me is personalization. You look at iPhone and everyone has the same layout and everything. With Android is free reign. I like being in control of my device more so than the other way around

ultramag69 said:
Not liking the price though, it's getting to the point where it's outside my price range, no justification in spending so much on a pocket pc that can be damaged, lost or stolen so easily...
And the note lineup is gonna be so much more expensive than the S20 variants...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Exactly!
I may skip yet another year in the Note upgrade game, & this is coming from someone who got the Note FE (still have it).
The Note 10+5G (T-Mobile US) is a beast,warts & all.
However, while the 5G speeds are nice,if you have already fast 4G LTE &/or Wi-Fi most of the time, it's a hard sell when you have a perfectly fine Note 9 & that's why I returned mine during the buyer's remorse period.
If the Note 20 is priced much more than the S20 Ultra, I'll probably sit out another upgrade & will continue to do so until my Note 9 battery takes a nosedive....
Sent from my Pixel 4 XL using XDA Labs

I'm actually waiting to see what Samsung does with the new note. I just came from IOS to Android and I've always loved the Note series but I couldn't afford the Note 10 + currently so i got the note 9 for like $350 and it's so damn good. By the time Samsung announces the new note I should be financially stable enough to get it on launch day so I'll be patient and continue to use this beast of a phone.

Ladies and gents the Note 9 is the goat! When the 10 came out with the hole punch I was not loving it but I tried the 10+ before I bought the 9 I was using my note 8 which was great but the battery was poor life otherwise note 8 was great. So the note 10+ I bought was having very poor reception and when I was gaming some of my buttons were near the hole punch and it was effecting game performance so I looked at note 9 specs and seen that it's the last note with headphone jack no hole screen and 4000mah battery! Plus when I had finally decided to upgrade from note 8 the 9 had been out a year and a half so the prices were coming down, I bought not 1 but 2 note 9 from Samsung on ebay for 349.99 brand new! I am fully prepared for this to be the last phone I ever use...