If I buy a Moto X XT1058, will that work on UK carriers? Do any variants have advantages over others?
I'd buy the model which has the most GSM bands matching those used by UK carriers.
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If I buy a Moto X XT1058, will that work on UK carriers? Do any variants have advantages over others?
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XT1052 is the model you should get unless you don't care for British/EU LTE bands.
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Depends on what bands your carrier uses.
The XT1058, XT1060, and most other X's (except the XT1056 for Sprint and Republic Wireless in the USA) support Quad Band GSM (for GSM/GPRS/EDGE). It supports standard frequencies for UMTS/HSPA.
The Xt1058 supports the most LTE bands, so chances are better for LTE outside the USA.
Take a look at Wikipedia for the X, its pretty accurate.
You may need to sim unlock the XT1058, but codes can be purchased on line for $10 to $30 USD. I know the ATT XT1058 is SIM locked, I'm not sure about the other varients (like the XT1058 from Rogers Canada, etc).
If you want to root, and you get an XT1058, just make sure its not an ATT XT1058. The ATT XT1058 can't have its bootloader unlocked, unless it still has 4.4.2 or lower on it, and you pay for Sunshine. Rogers and other XT1058 can get their bootloader unlock code for free from Moto's web site, and you can use the code no matter what ROM is on the phone (although it does void the warranty). Unlocking the bootloader is the only way to root Android 4.4.4, and possibly future versions. And its the easiest way to root Older Android versions on the X.
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Depends on what bands your carrier uses.
The XT1058, XT1060, and most other X's (except the XT1056 for Sprint and Republic Wireless in the USA) support Quad Band GSM (for GSM/GPRS/EDGE). It supports standard frequencies for UMTS/HSPA.
The Xt1058 supports the most LTE bands, so chances are better for LTE outside the USA.
Take a look at Wikipedia for the X, its pretty accurate.
You may need to sim unlock the XT1058, but codes can be purchased on line for $10 to $30 USD. I know the ATT XT1058 is SIM locked, I'm not sure about the other varients (like the XT1058 from Rogers Canada, etc).
If you want to root, and you get an XT1058, just make sure its not an ATT XT1058. The ATT XT1058 can't have its bootloader unlocked, unless it still has 4.4.2 or lower on it, and you pay for Sunshine. Rogers and other XT1058 can get their bootloader unlock code for free from Moto's web site, and you can use the code no matter what ROM is on the phone (although it does void the warranty). Unlocking the bootloader is the only way to root Android 4.4.4, and possibly future versions. And its the easiest way to root Older Android versions on the X.
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Thanks for the information. This is more of a general question, but if a phone is listed as "unlocked", does that suggest it isn't an ATT XT1058, and won't need a bootloader unlock code? Thanks in advance.
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Thanks for the information. This is more of a general question, but if a phone is listed as "unlocked", does that suggest it isn't an ATT XT1058, and won't need a bootloader unlock code? Thanks in advance.
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Hi,
"Unlocked" means that the phone works with SIMs from any mobile operator. So it's more like "operator unlocked".
Unlocker bootloader Moto Xs (and Gs) are called "Developer Edition".
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Thanks for the information. This is more of a general question, but if a phone is listed as "unlocked", does that suggest it isn't an ATT XT1058, and won't need a bootloader unlock code? Thanks in advance.
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Yeah, what @spkbri said...
There are TWO types of "Unlocked" and some people do confuse them.
SIM Unlocked (aka Carrier unlocked) which just allows you to use any other carrier's sim in the phone.
Bootloader Unlocked, which allows you to flash unsigned parts (like 3rd party recoveries, roms, etc).
So if you see a phone listed only as "Unlocked" it could mean either.
Motorola did sell a few "GSM Unlocked (ships with XXX SIM)" type models on Moto Maker website (mostly for T-Mobile and Net10 in the USA). These were the XT1053 variety, shipped SIM unlocked, and could have their boot loaders unlocked by requesting then using the bootloader unlock code. Per moto's wording on the web site, requesting the bootloader unlock code voids the warranty.
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Unlocker bootloader Moto Xs (and Gs) are called "Developer Edition".
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I will disagree with you here.
Yes, Moto did sell Developer Editions of the X for GSM and Verizon USA (CDMA). They were bootloader unlockable. You just request the code from Moto's web site. And unlocking the bootloader doesn't void the warranty.
But when it comes to the "2013 X", for some carrier editions and Moto Maker editions (Like T-Mobile, Sprint, Rogers and many others), Motorola also freely gives away the BootLoader Unlock codes when requested On Motorola's Web Site. In the case of the Non-Developer Editions, it voids their warranty to request the code.
The exceptions being ATT USA, Republic Wireless USA, and Verizon USA. For those, Moto does NOT give out the bootloader unlock codes (likely due to agreements with those carriers). That being said, when the China Middle Man was operating, you had a chance to purchase a boot loader unlock code, and unlock those as well. And of course, doing so voided your warranty.
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I will disagree with you here.
Yes, Moto did sell Developer Editions of the X for GSM and Verizon USA (CDMA). They were bootloader unlockable. You just request the code from Moto's web site. And unlocking the bootloader doesn't void the warranty.
But when it comes to the "2013 X", for some carrier editions and Moto Maker editions (Like T-Mobile, Sprint, Rogers and many others), Motorola also freely gives away the BootLoader Unlock codes when requested On Motorola's Web Site. In the case of the Non-Developer Editions, it voids their warranty to request the code.
The exceptions being ATT USA, Republic Wireless USA, and Verizon USA. For those, Moto does NOT give out the bootloader unlock codes (likely due to agreements with those carriers). That being said, when the China Middle Man was operating, you had a chance to purchase a boot loader unlock code, and unlock those as well. And of course, doing so voided your warranty.
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Yeah i've made a bit of confusion there, sorry.
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Thinking about the Moto X, the GSM edition, not the developer edition because I understand the developer version comes in white back and black front. I want all white Moto X. So because I am not getting the developer edition can I still unlock the bootloader??? I tried checking before asking this and could not find the answer.
Thanks, Vinny
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Thinking about the Moto X, the GSM edition, not the developer edition because I understand the developer version comes in white back and black front. I want all white Moto X. So because I am not getting the developer edition can I still unlock the bootloader??? I tried checking before asking this and could not find the answer.
Thanks, Vinny
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it depends.
if you buy the t-mobile one on motorola.com its unlockable. if you get the at&t one it is not unlockable.
if you buy a rogers canada one its unlockable. if you buy a telcel or claro latin america unit they are unlockable. if you buy a mexico nextel GSM one it is not unlockable (some people are holding out hope that its a mistake and will have its IMEIs added to the unlock list..).
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it depends.
if you buy the t-mobile one on motorola.com its unlockable. if you get the at&t one it is not unlockable.
if you buy a rogers canada one its unlockable. if you buy a telcel or claro latin america unit they are unlockable. if you buy a mexico nextel GSM one it is not unlockable (some people are holding out hope that its a mistake and will have its IMEIs added to the unlock list..).
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Thanks for the fast reply. Great information.
Vinny
If you're asking if the BOOTLOADER can be unlocked, as of right now, no.
If you're asking about carrier unlock, then you can go by sleepy guys answer.
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wturner859 said:
If you're asking if the BOOTLOADER can be unlocked, as of right now, no.
If you're asking about carrier unlock, then you can go by sleepy guys answer.
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Well, it's not a "no." Like the poster said above, it depends on your carrier. VZW and ATT are a no go.
I have a Latin America Moto X (Movistar Chile), but when I try to unlock the bootloader, the Motorola Page throws me "your device does not qualify for bootloader unlocking"
I have a Fido Canada version of this phone and I'm trying to unlock the boot loader but it tells me I'm not eligible . i know the my phone is the same as rogers. Why am I not able to?
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pjcordi said:
I have a Fido Canada version of this phone and I'm trying to unlock the boot loader but it tells me I'm not eligible . i know the my phone is the same as rogers. Why am I not able to?
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Carrier needs to provide Motorola with the OK to allow the unlocking the bootloader, obviously Fido hasn't given them the OK, see if you can return it and pick up the rogers version at full price and use your Fido Sim card,you shouldn't have to Sim unlock as we all know Rogers is Fido's parent company
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Okay well my phone is on contract. Im pretty sure the Rogers and Fido phone are the exact same. I don't think they would trade mine in for a rogers. Is there any other way to unlock the boot loader? Will there be one in the future?
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Basically the problem is some carriers are not giving their imei lists to Motorola to have those phones in the unlock program. Thats probably why there are some Latin America units that can't unlock
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Okay well my phone is on contract. Im pretty sure the Rogers and Fido phone are the exact same. I don't think they would trade mine in for a rogers. Is there any other way to unlock the boot loader? Will there be one in the future?
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Being Fido makes no difference, it runs the Rogers firmware and is unlockable. Its looking like several people have tried to unlock bootloaders today(including me) and the Motorola website has said they are not eligible. So my conclusion at this point is that the backend server that handles the codes is down/broken.
sleepyguy007 said:
it depends.
if you buy the t-mobile one on motorola.com its unlockable. if you get the at&t one it is not unlockable.
if you buy a rogers canada one its unlockable. if you buy a telcel or claro latin america unit they are unlockable. if you buy a mexico nextel GSM one it is not unlockable (some people are holding out hope that its a mistake and will have its IMEIs added to the unlock list..).
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For the Nextel Mexico XT1053, It has been confirmed that is a mistake as can be seen in this thread on Motorola's Website. They are working the issue, but it may take more time.
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Well, it's not a "no." Like the poster said above, it depends on your carrier. VZW and ATT are a no go.
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Wrong. I contacted Moto. The GSM unlocked version is NOT bootloader unlockable. My unlock code does not work. I am sending it back.
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I have a Latin America Moto X (Movistar Chile), but when I try to unlock the bootloader, the Motorola Page throws me "your device does not qualify for bootloader unlocking"
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Carrier needs to provide Motorola with the OK to allow the unlocking the bootloader,
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^^^^ This...
If the carrier doesn't want Moto to let you unlock, you can't. Motorola's web site for unlocking will tell you your device doesn't qualify and there is nothing you can do.
Moto's web site does list some information on carriers and which can be unlocked. See -> https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/87215
As far as which motos that can not be unlocked 2 are unable, Verizon and AT&T consumer versions, all other motos have the unlockable boot loader to date.
If you have attempted to unlock and get ineligible, then your imei has not yet been entered into motos system. When calling the "not the Sharpe's knifes in the drawer" folks at moto, please establish what you wish to unlock your BOOT LOADER not SIM UNLOCKED because they normally ASSume the sim
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KidJoe said:
^^^^ This...
If the carrier doesn't want Moto to let you unlock, you can't. Motorola's web site for unlocking will tell you your device doesn't qualify and there is nothing you can do.
Moto's web site does list some information on carriers and which can be unlocked. See -> https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/87215
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The off contract, GSM unlocked phone has nothing to do with carrier's wishes. I have this phone with an activated TMO sim and it is not eligible for unlock, period. This is sold directly by Motorola and is supplied with a TMO sim. TMO has no issue with bootloader unlocks, so it's not the carrier - this model is not bootloader unlockable.
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As far as which motos that can not be unlocked 2 are unable, Verizon and AT&T consumer versions, all other motos have the unlockable boot loader to date.
If you have attempted to unlock and get ineligible, then your imei has not yet been entered into motos system. When calling the "not the Sharpe's knifes in the drawer" folks at moto, please establish what you wish to unlock your BOOT LOADER not SIM UNLOCKED because they normally ASSume the sim
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Been there, done that. I was told by Moto that my off contract, unlocked full price GSM Moto X shipped with the Tmobile sim is not bootloader unlockable. The two people I spoke with fully understood the difference between sim unlocked and bootloader unlocked, and also knew that bootloader unlocking automatically voids the warranty except on the Developer version.
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The off contract, GSM unlocked phone has nothing to do with carrier's wishes. I have this phone with an activated TMO sim and it is not eligible for unlock, period. This is sold directly by Motorola and is supplied with a TMO sim. TMO has no issue with bootloader unlocks, so it's not the carrier - this model is not bootloader unlockable.
Been there, done that. I was told by Moto that my off contract, unlocked full price GSM Moto X shipped with the Tmobile sim is not bootloader unlockable. The two people I spoke with fully understood the difference between sim unlocked and bootloader unlocked, and also knew that bootloader unlocking automatically voids the warranty except on the Developer version.
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So your situation is totally different than any other situation, normally T-Mobile phones are unlockable, so Motorola has itself made your unlockable
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So your situation is totally different than any other situation, normally T-Mobile phones are unlockable, so Motorola has itself made your unlockable
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Update: Moto just sent me a note saying that their system may not be updated with my IMEI yet, but once it is, the warranty is automatically and uncategorically voided when I apply for the unlock code. Since it's the 32GB version, I'll still RMA it and get the Developer version instead. It's the exact same money and unlocking the developer version does not void the warranty.
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Update: Moto just sent me a note saying that their system may not be updated with my IMEI yet, but once it is, the warranty is automatically and uncategorically voided when I apply for the unlock code. Since it's the 32GB version, I'll still RMA it and get the Developer version instead. It's the exact same money and unlocking the developer version does not void the warranty.
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So the 2 idiots you spoke to are wrong, you can unlock
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I wonder if the "No Contact" or "Off Contract" $399 Moto X is GSM unlocked for international use or US only?
Can someone please confirm?
Thanks
Unlocked is unlocked.
Its unlocked for anything.....or its not unlocked ....there's no in between.
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Depends which lock you are talking about: bootloader, radio, or SIM.
Dev Edition, Rogers/AT&T model XT1058 have unlockable bootloaders.
Rogers/AT&T radio is not locked. I believe the Verizon version is so won't work on other US carriers. But they will all work on non-US carriers.
And they are all SIM locked, but easy to unlock.
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Depends which lock you are talking about: bootloader, radio, or SIM.
Dev Edition, Rogers/AT&T model XT1058 have unlockable bootloaders.
Rogers/AT&T radio is not locked. I believe the Verizon version is so won't work on other US carriers. But they will all work on non-US carriers.
And they are all SIM locked, but easy to unlock.
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Are you sure about those models? I think the TMO can be unlocked, not the AT&T. This is what the official Moto X website says.
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Depends which lock you are talking about: bootloader, radio, or SIM.
Dev Edition, Rogers/AT&T model XT1058 have unlockable bootloaders.
Rogers/AT&T radio is not locked. I believe the Verizon version is so won't work on other US carriers. But they will all work on non-US carriers.
And they are all SIM locked, but easy to unlock.
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That is not accurate.
You mention ATT has an unlockable bootloader. Unfortunately the Retail and MotoMaker version for ATT and Verizon have locked bootloaders which can not be unlocked, along with a few other carriers. The codes are not available from Moto's web site, and there is no other path to unlock those bootloaders. The VZW Dev Edition X can have its bootloader unlocked.
As for the Verizon version sim locked and working on other carriers.. The Verizon version (retail, motomaker and dev) is NOT "radio locked" nor is it sim locked, so it will work with a Non-Verizon GSM SIM. Depending on the frequencies of your carrier, the Verizon version will work for GSM/GPRS/EDGE, and possibly work for HSPA/HSPA+, and in some rare cases even LTE can work. It just depends on the bands/frequencies your carrier uses, compared to those supported by the X. I've posted about my VZW X working using my T-Mobile US sim, as have a few others. And I've seen posts of VZW X with ATT sim working.
The ATT version is SIM locked, and you need the unlock codes to use a Non-ATT SIM.
As for all being easy to SIM Unlock, it should be noted that when it comes to the Sprint Moto X, it is sim locked, and Sprint will give SIM Unlock code only if you are a current Sprint Customer with the X on your line/account. No 3rd party places that sell unlock codes have them for sprint moto X. So if the phone is not active on Sprint Service, you wont be able to get a SIM Unlock code for it. But I believe you are correct that any other X which is SIM locked should be "easy" to purchase or otherwise obtain the SIM Unlock codes.
T-Mobile X has an unlockable bootloader. But unlike the Dev Edition, unlocking the bootloader on the MotoMaker for T-Mobile version voids the warranty. The T-Mobile X is also SIM Unlocked out of the box.
I can't comment on Rogers or others.
ibr4him said:
I wonder if the "No Contact" or "Off Contract" $399 Moto X is GSM unlocked for international use or US only?
Can someone please confirm?
Thanks
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Where are you looking? If you buy a "USA carrier branded" X off Moto Maker, or directly from a carrier it will very likely be SIM locked even if its "no contract." The exception being T-Mobile and Verizon which I know are not sim locked, and will work for USA and Non-USA GSM service (depending on the frequencies of the carrier you will be using... it could be as slow as EDGE, or as fast as HSPA+ or LTE).
I am a Rodgers subscriber and have purchased a used Sprint Moto X. I have unlocked it so I could just put in a SIM and go. Is this my best option or should/can I flash this with custom firmware, updated Sprint firmware (KitKat), or switch over to Rogers firmware. Any other Sprint Moto X users in Canada out there? Current software is 161.44.32.ghost_Sprint.en.US
Domenic
domenictroilo said:
I am a Rodgers subscriber and have purchased a used Sprint Moto X. I have unlocked it so I could just put in a SIM and go. Is this my best option or should/can I flash this with custom firmware, updated Sprint firmware (KitKat), or switch over to Rogers firmware. Any other Sprint Moto X users in Canada out there? Current software is 161.44.32.ghost_Sprint.en.US
Domenic
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Were you able to sim unlock your Sprint Moto X ?? How did you do that?
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Were you able to sim unlock your Sprint Moto X ?? How did you do that?
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I was under the impression that the unlock of the phone would allow any SIM to be put in. The point of unlocking the phone would be to allow a person to take a phone and use it with any other provider. I do not have the right size SIM to put in but the phone is connected to the Rodgers network right now and I can dial 911 (emergency dial). It could be that I do not understand the definition of unlock and now have a phone I can still only use with Sprint.....
Domenic
domenictroilo said:
I was under the impression that the unlock of the phone would allow any SIM to be put in. The point of unlocking the phone would be to allow a person to take a phone and use it with any other provider. I do not have the right size SIM to put in but the phone is connected to the Rodgers network right now and I can dial 911 (emergency dial). It could be that I do not understand the definition of unlock and now have a phone I can still only use with Sprint.....
Domenic
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If you went to the Motorola site and did their unlock procedure.... Then you unlocked the boot loader. That won't let you use the phone on another carrier. Unlocking boot loader would be done with fast boot.
If you sim unlocked....you would have had a code from sprint....or somewhere, and when you put the other carrier sim card in....it would ask you for a code, and you would enter the code.
What exactly did you do???
Just the bootloader, should have done more research. There are sites that suggest for a small fee the sim can be unlocked. Can they unlock sprint phones or am I going to have to sell it?
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Just the bootloader, should have done more research. There are sites that suggest for a small fee the sim can be unlocked. Can they unlock sprint phones or am I going to have to sell it?
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I may be wrong, but since there's an unlock sprint sim bounty thread....I am pretty sure those sites can't unlock sprint moto x's.
Sorry!!!
No the bounty threads are to unlock the bootloader. As for Sim unlocking, I don't know anything about it related to CDMA network.
According to Wikipedia, Rogers is a GSM network. Sprint is a CDMA network. Therefore the Sprint Moto X will not work with Rogers, unless I'm missing something. There is an exception that Verizon phones are world phones which mean they support CDMA, but their newer phones also have the radio to support GSM, which means their phone are GSM unlocked to work for GSM networks outside of US (from what I understand they prevent it from working with GSM carriers within US unless you sim unlock it).
Sorry but the Sprint Moto X won't work with Rogers network. You just need to buy a GSM unlocked Moto X (xt1053) and stick the sim in, then enter the Rogers APN information. You can also get an unlocked ATT Moto X (xt1058) or presumably a Verizon Moto X.
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No the bounty threads are to unlock the bootloader. As for Sim unlocking, I don't know anything about it related to CDMA network.
According to Wikipedia, Rogers is a GSM network. Sprint is a CDMA network. Therefore the Sprint Moto X will not work with Rogers, unless I'm missing something. There is an exception that Verizon phones are world phones which mean they support CDMA, but their newer phones also have the radio to support GSM, which means their phone are GSM unlocked to work for GSM networks outside of US (from what I understand they prevent it from working with GSM carriers within US unless you sim unlock it).
Sorry but the Sprint Moto X won't work with Rogers network. You just need to buy a GSM unlocked Moto X (xt1053) and stick the sim in, then enter the Rogers APN information. You can also get an unlocked ATT Moto X (xt1058) or presumably a Verizon Moto X.
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Bounty threads are all the rage for the X.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2729744
Sprint phones can't be sim unlocked. So buying one to use on another carrier isn't really an option.
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Bounty threads are all the rage for the X.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2729744
Sprint phones can't be sim unlocked. So buying one to use on another carrier isn't really an option.
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You say that buying Sprint Moto X isn't option but there is some way to unlock Moto X because there is solutions for Sprint HTC One, Sprint LG G2, Sprint Galaxy S4 and etc so it's don't be hard to make solution to unlock Sprint Moto X too so maybe there could be found developers who will do it I have hope.
P.S. and one news I PM ysabxe for information progress on this project but he say that this thread is not actual for him more I thin cause nobody send him that files what he needed for unlock he need already unlocked Moto X TWRP backup.
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No the bounty threads are to unlock the bootloader. As for Sim unlocking, I don't know anything about it related to CDMA network.
According to Wikipedia, Rogers is a GSM network. Sprint is a CDMA network. Therefore the Sprint Moto X will not work with Rogers, unless I'm missing something. There is an exception that Verizon phones are world phones which mean they support CDMA, but their newer phones also have the radio to support GSM, which means their phone are GSM unlocked to work for GSM networks outside of US (from what I understand they prevent it from working with GSM carriers within US unless you sim unlock it).
Sorry but the Sprint Moto X won't work with Rogers network. You just need to buy a GSM unlocked Moto X (xt1053) and stick the sim in, then enter the Rogers APN information. You can also get an unlocked ATT Moto X (xt1058) or presumably a Verizon Moto X.
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Don't trust Wikipedia. Just like the verizon X, the sprint X supports at least quad band gsm for global roaming, which are the same gsm frequencies also used in North America. (I haven't looked into the other frequencies the sprint x supports).
The problem comes in that the Sprint X is sim locked to only use their Sims. You can only get the sim unlock code from sprint directly, no 3rd party sellers seem to have them. Sprint will only give it if you are a current customer, with the X active on your line, and other condiitions are met.... So if you buy a used Sprint Moto X that hasn't been sim unlocked, you are screwed. But if you buy one that has been sim unlocked, you'll be able to get at least basic gsm.
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You say that buying Sprint Moto X isn't option but there is some way to unlock Moto X because there is solutions for Sprint HTC One, Sprint LG G2, Sprint Galaxy S4 and etc so it's don't be hard to make solution to unlock Sprint Moto X too so maybe there could be found developers who will do it I have hope.
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Because other phones can, you must be able to on X.... Unfortunately that is faulty logic.
For whatever reason, the only way to sim unlock a Sprint Moto X has been to be a current Sprint customer and get the code from them. For all the posts on XDA asking for Sprint X sim unlock code for those who are no longer Sprint customers, no one has found a way. None of the 3rd party code sellers have a way.
Because other phones can, you must be able to on X.... Unfortunately that is faulty logic.
For whatever reason, the only way to sim unlock a Sprint Moto X has been to be a current Sprint customer and get the code from them. For all the posts on XDA asking for Sprint X sim unlock code for those who are no longer Sprint customers, no one has found a way. None of the 3rd party code sellers have a way.
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If you are active user look unlocking steps there is always used omadm.apk on Sprint HTC one and Sprint LG G2 so there is way to unlock Sprint X too but need already sprint customer who already have unlocked their Sprint X and need files from already unlocked Sprint X ysabxe was asking make backup and link it on dropbox or some cloud but nobody did it. so it doesn't mean that it is impossible to unlock Sprint X
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If you are active user look unlocking steps there is always used omadm.apk on Sprint HTC one and Sprint LG G2 so there is way to unlock Sprint X too but need already sprint customer who already have unlocked their Sprint X and need files from already unlocked Sprint X ysabxe was asking make backup and link it on dropbox or some cloud but nobody did it. so it doesn't mean that it is impossible to unlock Sprint X
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Again, you're assuming the same method and software used to SIM unlock phones by other makers is how its done on the X too.
While it may not be impossible, I would say its improbable... The X has been out since August yet with all the requests by those looking to SIM unlock the Sprint X, as of today, no one has posted a way to do it, other than be an active sprint customer and request the code from them.
Does anyone have the Republic Wireless Moto X running on AT&T and is ok?
Just received a RW Moto X and realized I purchased it from them instead of AT&T on the Moto Maker site.
It is on 4.2.2 and I was seeing if I should even pursue rooting and flashing a new rom onto it that would allow the changing of the network technology (GSM vs CDMA, etc.)
Thanks in advance for the help!
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Does anyone have the Republic Wireless Moto X running on AT&T and is ok?
Just received a RW Moto X and realized I purchased it from them instead of AT&T on the Moto Maker site.
It is on 4.2.2 and I was seeing if I should even pursue rooting and flashing a new rom onto it that would allow the changing of the network technology (GSM vs CDMA, etc.)
Thanks in advance for the help!
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Nope, if you don't plan to use Republic you should return it instead. The RW Moto X will only operate on RW. You cannot bootloader-unlock it, and you cannot SIM-Unlock it. That phone can only ever been used on Republic Wireless.
P.S. When you re-order your new phone, I highly suggest buying the T-Mobile version instead. The T-Mobile variant comes SIM-Unlocked and is Bootloader-Unlockable. You can use it straight out-of-the-box on AT&T or T-Mobile.
If you buy the AT&T Variant, it comes SIM-Locked to AT&T (and you will have to buy/obtain a SIM-Unlock code if you ever want to use it on another carrier), and you cannot unlock the bootloader either.
Additionally, the T-Mobile variant supports all of the frequencies AT&T (and T-Mobile) currently use in the United States.
Good Luck
samwathegreat said:
Nope, if you don't plan to use Republic you should return it instead. The RW Moto X will only operate on RW. You cannot bootloader-unlock it, and you cannot SIM-Unlock it. That phone can only ever been used on Republic Wireless.
P.S. When you re-order your new phone, I highly suggest buying the T-Mobile version instead. The T-Mobile variant comes SIM-Unlocked and is Bootloader-Unlockable. You can use it straight out-of-the-box on AT&T or T-Mobile.
If you buy the AT&T Variant, it comes SIM-Locked to AT&T (and you will have to buy/obtain a SIM-Unlock code if you ever want to use it on another carrier), and you cannot unlock the bootloader either.
Additionally, the T-Mobile variant supports all of the frequencies AT&T (and T-Mobile) currently use in the United States.
Good Luck
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Thank you for the honest and straight forward post. The T-Mobile version it is.
I will be ordering again shortly.
Thanks again!
@mystikz2002
Some additions to what @samwathegreat has already said...
There were some who were successful in using the 3rd party Chinese Website/Middleman to BUY the boot loader unlock code for the Republic Wireless X. BUT he is right in that no one has been able to SIM unlock them, so they will only work on Republic Wireless.
If you are going to get the GSM Unlocked (ships with T-Mobile SIM), which is AKA the T-Mobile version, from MotoMaker, just know that if you want to unlock its bootloader (if you want to root), while Moto will give you the unlock code for FREE on their web site, requesting the bootloader unlock code voids its warranty. So compare the price of that model, to the GSM Developer Edition X. While you can't customize its look (Dev Ed ships only as black face, woven white back, silver accents {buttons and camera ring}, and 32gig), unlocking its bootloader doesn't void the warranty. Internal hardware and functionality wise, the GSM Dev Edition and the GSM Unlocked are the same phone.
I'm looking to buy a used Moto X, and am trying to figure out which Moto X's receive updates from Motorola and not a carrier. I need a GSM phone and will be using a TMobile or AT&T MVNO in the US. I don't trust the carriers to continue pushing out Motorola's updates, so I'd rather just get them from Motorola directly.
My understanding is that the new dev versions and the retail, full-priced versions from Motorola will get updates. How do I identify those on the secondary market? Is it as simple as - if the back doesn't have a carrier logo, it gets updates from Motorola? Should I only be looking for an XT1053 and not an XT1058?
Looked in the FAQs and searched, but couldn't find an answer.
Thanks!
I could be wrong, but I don't think any of them get the update OTA straight from motorola. Even the dev and unlocked GSM's roms are labeled as T-Mobile retail. However, if you have one of those devices and an unlocked bootloader, you can download the system images straight from moto's website and easily install the updates yourself. So either version works in your case. The only difference is that you lose your warranty if you don't have a dev edition.
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That Ain't Falco!!! said:
I could be wrong, but I don't think any of them get the update OTA straight from motorola. Even the dev and unlocked GSM's roms are labeled as T-Mobile retail. However, if you have one of those devices and an unlocked bootloader, you can download the system images straight from moto's website and easily install the updates yourself. So either version works in your case. The only difference is that you lose your warranty if you don't have a dev edition.
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Thanks for the answer. So, theoretically, it wouldn't matter which device I got. Good to know. Thanks!
511pf said:
I'm looking to buy a used Moto X, and am trying to figure out which Moto X's receive updates from Motorola and not a carrier. I need a GSM phone and will be using a TMobile or AT&T MVNO in the US. I don't trust the carriers to continue pushing out Motorola's updates, so I'd rather just get them from Motorola directly.
My understanding is that the new dev versions and the retail, full-priced versions from Motorola will get updates. How do I identify those on the secondary market? Is it as simple as - if the back doesn't have a carrier logo, it gets updates from Motorola? Should I only be looking for an XT1053 and not an XT1058?
Looked in the FAQs and searched, but couldn't find an answer.
Thanks!
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If you want to be able to use your phone on multiple carriers, definitely buy the XT1053.
The XT1053 comes bootloader-unlockable and sim-unlocked. If you buy the XT1058 AT&T variant, the bootloader cannot be unlocked (unless you are lucky enough to get a code from the china middleman), and the phones are SIM-Locked to AT&T (unusable on T-Mobile). Some have reported success getting a SIM-Unlock code from online sellers, but others have reported that they tried all of the online sellers and none of the unlock codes work.
If you want a phone that will 100% be usable on any GSM carrier, buy the XT1053.
All variants should [eventually] receive the updates.
Don't know about XT1053 but I got the XT1052 and it came with unlock-able bootloader too, and of course all GSM SIM cards are working.
511pf said:
I need a GSM phone and will be using a TMobile or AT&T MVNO in the US.
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In addition to what That Ain't Falco!!! said..
The ATT XT1058 doesn't support HSPA/HSPA+ on AWS(1700/2100mhz). When T-Mobile first launched their HSPA/HSPA+ network that is the frequency they used. While they are working to upgrade and re-farm their 1900Mhz spectrum to HSPA/HSPA+, in areas where they haven't yet completed that, the XT1058 would only get EDGE when using it on T-Mobile
While the GSM Unlocked XT1053 is sim unlocked out of the box and bootloader unlockable, unlocking the bootloader does void the warranty. The Dev Edition XT1053 can't be customized (comes as 32gig, black face, woven white back, silver accents and says Dev Edition on the back), but unlocking the bootloader does NOT void the warranty. But in reality, the hardware "inside" is exactly the same, and they use the same roms/updates.
If you want to root, its easiest/best if you can unlock the bootloader.
Great answers, guys. Thanks a ton for taking the time. I'm definitely going to look for the XT1053.