The Big Lollipop Q&A Thread - G 2014 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hey guys!
Now that we have the luxury of almost being the first on the world to test non-testing Lollipop, can we start a Q&A thread about it?
First and foremost, I'm curious about the new memory management in this Release. As you can see in this threads 1 XDA Thread 2 (Official Motorola Forums one) the problems with RAM management in KitKat were MASSIVE.
- How do you feel it is as of right now? It's still there? It's a little better?
- How does the CPU respond? Could you run an Antutu Benchmark to compare with KitKat?
- I know it's a little early to ask, but I'm curious about Project Volta. Do you notice more battery life?
Thanks, and keep posting questions!

We just want Lollipop on the XT1068

deownagee said:
We just want Lollipop on the XT1068
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I'm on the same boat as you bro, that's why I'm trying to let escape my anxiety by asking lucky XT-1064 users how Lollipop feels. There's a lack of info about this!

@oscillat0r.lfo
My thoughts exactly.
But the biggest gripe I currently have, is the RAM (mis)management.
Its driving me nuts
It doesnt really matter much to me about the benchmarks but the mem-leak and the battery life HAS to improve with the LP update, or I'll be a really sad bunny

deownagee said:
We just want Lollipop on the XT1068
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Same here, I got the XT1068 model. Any news about OTA for us? I can't find anything.

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Will L90 get the official Lollipop update?

OEMs are announcing update plans.
Profit hungry samsung is updating only high ends.
Motorolla is updating almost all.
LG leaked some models like G3, G2.
Some sources say L90.
What do you think? Will Lg be agressive & release it for Mid ranges like L90?
(MotoG L90 are competitors)
fear2433 said:
OEMs are announcing update plans.
Profit hungry samsung is updating only high ends.
Motorolla is updating almost all.
LG leaked some models like G3, G2.
Some sources say L90.
What do you think? Will Lg be agressive & release it for Mid ranges like L90?
(MotoG L90 are competitors)
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Signs on skies and earths say it will. What will we end up with at the end of the day? Only LG knows
We'll most likely get it. This phone's bound to get an update, and I doubt it'll be a small bump to 4.4.4.
Man I hope so. If we didn't, it would be like not getting a present at Xmas time
Or getting organic rice from Trick or Treating.
Ilxaot said:
We'll most likely get it. This phone's bound to get an update, and I doubt it'll be a small bump to 4.4.4.
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My reasons to doubt it is. LG never released 4.4.0 because they said they want android to become stable first. They jumped to 4.4.2 and marketed new devices.
Next, LG is the slowest to update. Remember kitkat for G2 ?
Maybe by May next year they will release new phones (5.1) and market those?
meer_mortal said:
Man I hope so. If we didn't, it would be like not getting a present at Xmas time
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Forgive if I cant recognize phrases. But did u mean we will get lollipop update this december?
fear2433 said:
Forgive if I cant recognize phrases. But did u mean we will get lollipop update this december?
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No he didn't. He meant it would be just as disappointing as not getting presents for xmas. Or [fill in perk of a hollyday] on [said hollyday].
BTW, I'm going to wait for CM 12, which will probably come sooner than LG's update anyway.
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My reasons to doubt it is. LG never released 4.4.0 because they said they want android to become stable first. They jumped to 4.4.2 and marketed new devices.
Next, LG is the slowest to update. Remember kitkat for G2 ?
Maybe by May next year they will release new phones (5.1) and market those?
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LG has been on top of their game for the last year. We'll get it.
I'm hoping it will get the update.
Cmon LG, got a tablet and a smartphone from you, don't let me down!
I sure hope we'll get the newest version. Though I wonder how well will it run on this device and how much internal memory will it require. But I'm not getting my hopes up. Somewhat of a realistic/optimistic opinion towards this matter.
Wtf! Founded this:
http://www.**********.org/mp3-0/lg-l90-d405-6100.html
Kowalzki said:
Wtf! Founded this:
http://www.**********.org/mp3-0/lg-l90-d405-6100.html
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link is dead?
www.**********.org/mp3-0/lg-l90-d405-6100.html
Change stars to 50 lollipop without spaces.
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googlephone said:
www.**********.org/mp3-0/lg-l90-d405-6100.html
Change stars to 50 lollipop without spaces.
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And what does this has to do with the l90? Or are you just trying to promote your website?
The link ist about upgrading the S5 to kitkat
catbro said:
And what does this has to do with the l90? Or are you just trying to promote your website?
The link ist about upgrading the S5 to kitkat
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It's not, I saw a page about upgrading L90 to 5.0. Doesn't look legit though and I'm too lazy to dig for some info about it
Edit. Yeah, I've just noticed a tutorial on how to pass the survey in order to download this rom on that site which means it may be everything except 5.0 for L90
Actually, I have some doubts about the update. The recent LG announcement that they will bring the LG G3 UI & UX to their low and mid-end devices is what makes me doubt. I mean, why do that if they're presumably working on an Android update for the L90. Of course, if it doesn't take much time or resources, I don't mind.
L90 hardware is somewhat similar to the moto g. So it is possible. Lg has really changed with their latest releases, so it gives me hope that it will get 5.0
L90 would definitely be getting android lollipop, informed by someone really reliable.
[email protected] said:
L90 would definitely be getting android lollipop, informed by someone really reliable.
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Could you tell us where did you get that information?
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What's the reason for slow development for this phone?

Despite the release of kernel sources, why isn't there much development for this phone? Is it because most developers don't have this phone, or because they're waiting for the release of lollipop?
I kinda now wish that I'd bought the Moto G 1st gen lol.
Wish I knew! My guess is that they're waiting for Lollipop. Then again, this phone is still young. So not many people / developers own this device. And Motorola isn't Samsung or HTC. It's a small fish in the smartphone ocean!
smitharro said:
Wish I knew! My guess is that they're waiting for Lollipop. Then again, this phone is still young. So not many people / developers own this device. And Motorola isn't Samsung or HTC. It's a small fish in the smartphone ocean!
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Yeah, but moto g has like ****loads of ROMs.
But, any how here's to speedy development
mahendru1992 said:
Yeah, but moto g has like ****loads of ROMs.
But, any how here's to speedy development
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It'll come!
Fingers crossed
Drivers were released a few days ago, so yeah, they are coming
meadillas11 said:
Drivers were released a few days ago, so yeah, they are coming
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Yeah I hope so too. I'm also hoping that a developer does comment here and make us stop worrying
Slow development??? The phone was released less than two months ago. Not to mention in stock mode it is already a kick-ass phone.
But as with all things, there is always somebody who isn't happy with the status quo.
pastorbob62 said:
Slow development??? The phone was released less than two months ago. Not to mention in stock mode it is already a kick-ass phone.
But as with all things, there is always somebody who isn't happy with the status quo.
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Chill Bro! I'm not happy, but certainly I'm not complaining also here.
And why I'm asking is because when the kernel sources weren't released, everybody was saying that wait till they release, and we'll get speedy development of ROMs and kernels. But now that sources have been released, no development. I was kinda disappointed.
I had a s3 before, and that phone had ROMs in the 1st month only. So yes I'm comparing. Kill me
pastorbob62 said:
Not to mention in stock mode it is already a kick-ass phone.
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On a side note, hows your battery life mate, I can barely make it through a day.
I Read on gsm arena that the endurance time was 50hrs.But I could see my meter spiraling downwards
Me thinks somethings wrong with my battery :cyclops:
Bdw Im using a dual sim version
Same here. Sometimes the battery lasts long enough, most of the time is goes empty very quickly and the top right corner of my XT1068 gets warm. Not hot, but warm. Don't know about the internal layout so don't know if it's related.
Wondering if I should RMA it or replace kernel/ROM and hope for the best.
metalrules321 said:
On a side note, hows your battery life mate, I can barely make it through a day.
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How come? Mine lasts easily through the day! Look carefully at the apps you're using: which one is consuming the most? Greenify it! Furthermore avoid using 3g. 2g Is fine for just Whatsapp etc! And don't use animated backgrounds!
mahendru1992 said:
Chill Bro! I'm not happy, but certainly I'm not complaining also here.
And why I'm asking is because when the kernel sources weren't released, everybody was saying that wait till they release, and we'll get speedy development of ROMs and kernels. But now that sources have been released, no development. I was kinda disappointed.
I had a s3 before, and that phone had ROMs in the 1st month only. So yes I'm comparing. Kill me
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No problem my friend. I understand the desire to improve on a good thing. I am sure we'll see some custom ROM's showing up soon.
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metalrules321 said:
On a side note, hows your battery life mate, I can barely make it through a day.
I Read on gsm arena that the endurance time was 50hrs.But I could see my meter spiraling downwards
Me thinks somethings wrong with my battery :cyclops:
Bdw Im using a dual sim version
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I get a full day's use out of it before I have to charge. But I play several games off and on throughout the day. On days where I don't do any game playing it will last two days.
I am on the single SIM model (XT1063)
What do you have running in the background?
pastorbob62 said:
What do you have running in the background?
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Pretty much empty.
I rooted and removed most of the moto and google bloats
The only persistent ones are whatsapp, viper4android and faux sound
And Im not playing games on it too except for maybe a round of pocket tanks and subway surfer and not using any animated wallpapers
I disabled my second sim just to see what results i get
metalrules321 said:
Pretty much empty.
I rooted and removed most of the moto and google bloats
The only persistent ones are whatsapp, viper4android and faux sound
And Im not playing games on it too except for maybe a round of pocket tanks and subway surfer and not using any animated wallpapers
I disabled my second sim just to see what results i get
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I usually recommend this to everyone, but if you're having battery drain problems, just use ubounced, a xposed module. I had around 8-10 hours of standby, but after using it, My standby increased to 24-26 hours, and Screen On Time was around 4-5 hours. I don't micromanage at all i.e 3g is on all the time, no WiFi, sync is on
Do you think is safe buying Moto 2014 then? I mean development will popout? Or better buy 2013 LTE ?
youngchaos said:
Do you think is safe buying Moto 2014 then? I mean development will popout? Or better buy 2013 LTE ?
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i'm worried for the same,to buy moto g 2014 or not seeing less or no develpoment here...i think i must go with moto X 13 but it has 16gb
in my region
asfagus said:
i'm worried for the same,to buy moto g 2014 or not seeing less or no develpoment here...i think i must go with moto X 13 but it has 16gb
in my region
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I just think is early. Just wait for some devs who can relieve us but we should receive modding aswell! Wait before buying !

Ram management of kitkat sucks

guys
this phone can't handle facebook + launcher only opened ?
a galaxy star phone would do it better
even my 500 MB ram old phone is much more better than this
i don't have anything opened
just launcher and i get only 200 mb left of ram ?
if i opened any application it just redraws the launcher when i get out and it's very slow to get out of an application
what the **** ?
any solution would be appreciated very much
and rom would be appreciated too
theprincemoh said:
guys
this phone can't handle facebook + launcher only opened ?
a galaxy star phone would do it better
even my 500 MB ram old phone is much more better than this
i don't have anything opened
just launcher and i get only 200 mb left of ram ?
if i opened any application it just redraws the launcher when i get out and it's very slow to get out of an application
what the **** ?
any solution would be appreciated very much
and rom would be appreciated too
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are you running stock rom? What version android? what version of phone?
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are you running stock rom? What version android? what version of phone?
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stock rom 4.4.4
aaaaaaand
it's xt1063
no such problms, ram consumptuion is high bt less redraws
Go over here: https://forums.motorola.com/posts/6168839e0e?commentId=861143
and scream as loud as you can. May be someone will hear us!
theprincemoh said:
stock rom 4.4.4
aaaaaaand
it's xt1063
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Geeze we probably need to create a new forum titled "Moto G (2014) (2nd generation)"
This isn't 4.4.4 that's the problem. Most users on plain "Moto G (2014) 1st generation" are not having this problem including the people running 4.4.4
This is hardware differences in the 2nd generation Moto G 2014 version that are causing that.
I have the same problem, but in the Lollipop update it will be fixed. You just have to wait
Use an app such as the strangely named and excellent Kernel Adiutor to reduce the low memory killer thresholds. The thresholds set on 4.4.4 for the Moto G look suspisciously like they were intended for a device with 2GB of RAM. Simply halving every value will give you much better multitasking without introducing nasty side effects. Edit the build.prop to drop the VM heap growth limit from 96MB to 64MB. The editor built into Kernel Adiutor doesn't work on the Moto G atm, unfortunately.
Oh, and you might want to increase the max hidden apps prop to 15.
You will get about half of the ram as user available out of total in every smartphone. & that too may decrease depending on number of installed apps/updates...etc. Note this when u buy any phone.
guys
is it worth unlocking bootloader and getting custom rom or not ?
i never used stock roms on my older phones
but is it worth unlocking or just wait for update ?
theprincemoh said:
guys
is it worth unlocking bootloader and getting custom rom or not ?
i never used stock roms on my older phones
but is it worth unlocking or just wait for update ?
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I'm debating the same thing. I almost always rooted my phones but I was going to wait and try the OTA update when it's officially released. The memory issues I'm having are making thing about pushing ahead with root anyway but I don't know if the ROMs are any better at this point. I have an XT1064.
zeropants said:
I'm debating the same thing. I almost always rooted my phones but I was going to wait and try the OTA update when it's officially released. The memory issues I'm having are making thing about pushing ahead with root anyway but I don't know if the ROMs are any better at this point. I have an XT1064.
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i think i made my decision
i will try that titan rom
zeropants said:
I'm debating the same thing. I almost always rooted my phones but I was going to wait and try the OTA update when it's officially released. The memory issues I'm having are making thing about pushing ahead with root anyway but I don't know if the ROMs are any better at this point. I have an XT1064.
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They are way better than stock, you can't even compare the two.
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They are way better than stock, you can't even compare the two.
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OK, good to know. I'll have to unlock and give this a shot then...
Using ART helps
FWIW I've found that switching the runtime from Dalvik to ART helps a lot with the KK RAM management issues on this device. And that's even before rooting & greenifying etc. etc. So you may want to give that a try.

First impressions of Android L for Note 4

Some of you may have installed the recent Lollipop update, if so what are your first impressions "Was it worth the Waiting"
Has TW improved & what the changes?
Howz Battery life & overall Performance?
Does ART have a notable impact and do you miss the Xposed functionality? (Xposed now updated for Snapdragon & soon will be Exynos.
There are many more questions but these in time are best answered by people having updated, I myself will wait because I'm presently happy with KitKat.
Just downloading the N910K ver now, I get back to you in a day or two.
sucks
No 64 bit no 4g ram. My antutu went from 52.000 to 43000 . Pretty colours and the end
Sounds a huge let down, oh well, I still have a N910G on KitKat.
oiwnos said:
No 64 bit no 4g ram. My antutu went from 52.000 to 43000 . Pretty colours and the end
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Thanks Oiwnos for the reply., Sorry your first impression is not positive, was it a OTA update or did you flash as clean install?
asia559571 said:
Thanks Oiwnos for the reply., Sorry your first impression is not positive, was it a OTA update or did you flash as clean install?
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Clean install . of 4.4.4 then ota . the antutu test happenend with just the phone's apps
Have found first few issues with 5.0.1 stock:
1. Heartrate sensor is almost always active -- if you put your finger or anything else on the sensor it's going to flash red. All the time, even after reboot and no SHealth running.
2. Interruptions mode settings are not complete. HERE you can see how it's done in S5 lollipop firmware, but in Note4 I don't have "Sound mode" settings and no interruprions settings from the volume button menu, only through Settings -- Sound Notifications -- Interruptions.
Next update needed.
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Clean install . of 4.4.4 then ota . the antutu test happenend with just the phone's apps
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Question! Is running ART? if yes, is there an option to go back to Dalvik.
There's no new API for camera. Google, Motorola, Sony and (I guess) LG imported them. Just Sammy doesn't updated it in Lollipop. Pretty dissapointing as it was the only feature that I wanted in this version. Note 3, S5 and S4 are affected too.
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There's no new API for camera. Google, Motorola, Sony and (I guess) LG imported them. Just Sammy doesn't updated it in Lollipop. Pretty dissapointing as it was the only feature that I wanted in this version. Note 3, S5 and S4 are affected too.
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Only Google has actually used the Camera2 API in the Nexus 5 and Nexus 6.
Motorola, HTC, Sony and LG are all not using them on their Lollipop updates. We may expect them to support it on 5.0 released devices like the S6+
I hope this isnt final!
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No 64 bit no 4g ram. My antutu went from 52.000 to 43000 . Pretty colours and the end
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If the 64 bit stuff is not accessible neither is the 4gb of ram.....then this is total disappointment. another user said that their benchmark results dropper as well. what's going on samsung? was this just an aesthetic update? i can do without the make-up I want my performance.
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If the 64 bit stuff is not accessible neither is the 4gb of ram.....then this is total disappointment. another user said that their benchmark results dropper as well. what's going on samsung? was this just an aesthetic update? i can do without the make-up I want my performance.
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i got 49607 at AnTuTu now with Lollipop (and the device was hot before the test, so, could got more points if was colder) .. Strange that i have loose 1500 points on multitasking and won 1500 points too on execution time.. the rest still the same value +/- that was on 4.4.4.
i've no bug with S-health sensor, stays off until i choose some function on S-heath app
Same problem with interruptions (incomplete)
The rest the ROM it's faster and smoother than 4.4.4, very beautiful too...
ddaharu said:
If the 64 bit stuff is not accessible neither is the 4gb of ram.....then this is total disappointment. another user said that their benchmark results dropper as well. what's going on samsung? was this just an aesthetic update? i can do without the make-up I want my performance.
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1. 64 bit wouldn't do diddly squat for the performance of your phone. Hardly anyone even utilizes the power of 64 bit on desktop work let alone a phone.
2. download more ram? Say wha???
willowpc said:
i got 49607 at AnTuTu now with Lollipop (and the device was hot before the test, so, could got more points if was colder) .. Strange that i have loose 1500 points on multitasking and won 1500 points too on execution time.. the rest still the same value +/- that was on 4.4.4.
i've no bug with S-health sensor, stays off until i choose some function on S-heath app
Same problem with interruptions (incomplete)
The rest the ROM it's faster and smoother than 4.4.4, very beautiful too...
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thanks bro! well this makes me feel a lot better. I'll just wait for it to come out on my n910h
Sublation said:
1. 64 bit wouldn't do diddly squat for the performance of your phone. Hardly anyone even utilizes the power of 64 bit on desktop work let alone a phone.
2. download more ram? Say wha???
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lol yeah ur right!
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Blazing fast Dirty installed over my 4.4.4 X-Note installation. Everything works without problems. No FC's. Simply perfectly smooth. Waiting for custom ROMs with blacked out ui
asia559571 said:
Some of you may have installed the recent Lollipop update, if so what are your first impressions "Was it worth the Waiting"
Has TW improved & what the changes?
Howz Battery life & overall Performance?
Does ART have a notable impact and do you miss the Xposed functionality?
There are many more questions but these in time are best answered by people having updated, I myself will wait because I'm presently happy with KitKat.
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A simple review video :
youtu.be/s392gzrgU34
Portuguese-BR
Like and subs.
I will post a CM12 review too when it "comes out"
Wrong forum?! I think topic must be moved to general or Q&A section.
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After install the Lollipop N910C, i found that now, when you click com Quick Glance, you got a menu with options to what you want to show on the quick glance, but i can't get this to work, the settings gives me FC when i click on Try It, and the quick glance doesn't works at all...
Have any possibility that any developer can enable this ?
Deadly Sto(R)m said:
Wrong forum?! I think topic must be moved to general or Q&A section.
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Why wrong forum? Why don't you focus on something instead of being a mini-mod. These are exciting times because of Lollipop.
4.4.4 vs 5.0.1

Motorola Razr i Android Oreo?

Hi there,
I looked through xda and I didn't find any thread like this.
Is there anybody who tried/made Android 8.0/8.1 run on Motorola Razr i? In many sites people wrote that Oreo is made for 1GB and less RAM, so it could be cool to make it on (I think) the best phone with 1GB. :laugh:
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So, anybody?
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Hi there,
I looked through xda and I didn't find any thread like this.
Is there anybody who tried/made Android 8.0/8.1 run on Motorola Razr i? In many sites people wrote that Oreo is made for 1GB and less RAM, so it could be cool to make it on (I think) the best phone with 1GB. :laugh:
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So, anybody?
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I'm looking into this also. I've been reading about the new Android Go but and that sounds perfect but I can't find where its available.

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