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Note 4 or Note Edge

I'm just wondering which one are you all going to get... I'm going back and forth on which one to get... I mean the N4 will be great but that Edge looks nice and "the next big thing", but I'm hoping it's not just a gimmick... Also I'm wondering about development for the Edge... Since you all are experts here on XDA, your opinions are worth something... Thanks in advanced...
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I'm left handed so Note 4 for me. Even if I was right-handed, I'd probably wait a gen to see what Samsung and devs can do with the Edge. The fact that it's supposed to significantly more expensive than the 4 (which is already $750-$820 off contract) helps with my decision as well.

The cost was originally stopping me from going with the edge. Just watched this hands on video a little while ago and I didn't like the looks of it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uALVIcQXH4Q

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angeland said:
The cost was originally stopping me from going with the edge. Just watched this hands on video a little while ago and I didn't like the looks of it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uALVIcQXH4Q
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Damn. This looks pretty sick but the whole 200mah less battery capacity is a deal breaker for me....bummer
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Note for me. I really like the Edge idea and hope it catches on. To have a live scoreboard running on that or a variety of your own feeds is great. We shall see.
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verks said:
Note for me. I really like the Edge idea and hope it catches on. To have a live scoreboard running on that or a variety of your own feeds is great. We shall see.
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I'd love to see a taskbar with all open apps on it kind of like a desktop computer. If they had that option out of the gate I might consider it, might be convenient. I know the N4 has the running programs soft button, but it's still nice to see all your apps on a taskbar. I'm torn, but I'll probably play it safe and grab the vanilla N4.

Note 4 for me. Some dev will probably port the the note Edge rom for the 4. That be the best of both worlds.

Love the Edge. But price and release date are evasive and will likely be prohibitive.
Dynamic notifications kinda kills the coolest part. However moving menu items and shortcuts to it can be such a Time saver.

The Edge is expected to be $1,000 for the 32GB model and per Samsung's presentation, the curve display is part of their "ecosystem" strategy along with the watch. I take that as, you need to use Wiz and the curve display is proprietary.
Seems the Edge might be the antithesis of a device for the XDA forum.

Note 4 for me cause I need me the Gear VR.

I just read on PA that the edge will start out in limited production this year.

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I just read on PA that the edge will start out in limited production this year.
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No one is even mentioning any information about preordering the edge, I guess it comes out really late this year. Since i can't do VR, I am not interested in the edge. I don't think this device will be very popular.

Isn't the "edge" just a piece of the regular screen real estate wrapped around the edge? That is, we really aren't gaining any screen real-estate?

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Isn't the "edge" just a piece of the regular screen real estate wrapped around the edge? That is, we really aren't gaining any screen real-estate?
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You actually lose .1" of real estate.

This could be the reason why there hasnt been any mention about preordering the Note Edge

Samsungs own president said the Edge is a concept phone and not intended for mass production. That equals very rare and very expensive.

The other thing I read about it is that it is shorter than the Note 4, but wider. I have a Note 3, and I have trouble reaching from one side to the other with my thumb (I play Ingress, so this happens often). If I ended up with a phone even a milimeter or 2 wider, it would be impossible -- and I've got large hands.
I think it is a novel concept, and I hope it sells enough to warrant a second generation. But I also hope they make something useful and usable as the second edition.
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Samsungs own president said the Edge is a concept phone and not intended for mass production. That equals very rare and very expensive.
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Yeah the Edge has disappeared off all of the UK websites where it was listed as Coming Soon. That's a pity.
I wasn't planning to buy one but I would like to see it in the flesh

Sam3gX said:
Note 4 for me cause I need me the Gear VR.
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This ^!

Upgrade from Note 3

Hi I have a Note 3 with me and I got a Note 4 during Cyber monday and I also have a T-Mobile gc for 100 off. Also T-Mobile is buying back my Note 3 for 325. So my cost for the Note 4 is 325 (650-325 Trade in credit) I am confused now as is it worth it to spend the extra money now. Can people who have upgraded from Note 3 to Note 4 comment on this.
A couple of things about me.
Wife has a iphone 6 plus and we take pics with the 6 plus so I can live without a not so gr8 camers.
I dont game at all.
I love the Spen and take notes also browse the web a lot o my phone.

I went from the 3 to 4. The s pen on the 4 is better. I draw etc and it works so much nicer. I also like the upgraded software for the pen.
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That's good to know, I don't draw but I like to write with the pen. other than that how is the rest. The writing is really nice on the Note 3 also. Overall how is tue performance of Note 4 805 processor?
Another thing is we are also going to get 64 bit processor Soon- And the Note 5 next year will definitely have 64 bit processor. So I am really confused is it worth while to wait or upgrade and more over my Note 3 is in good condition.

Well all I can say is everything I do feels faster. Chromecast video play better. I do a mix of reading, watching videos, games, drawing, writing and replaced my PC with the note line. The Note 4 only has 2 things I don't like. I don't need QHD, it makes on screen elements a little to small in Ingress. The other is they didn't keep the temperature sensor. Other then those two minor issues I can't find issue with it.
I can't wait to see some custom ROMs over the next few months. I have owned a lot of phones and tablets and by far the Note 4 is my favorite. I do use Nova launcher since I can't stand the limits in TW.
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Well I know the s6 was supposed to cone with new chip set but they stopped that. Nobody knows what note 5 will come with. 32 works great so is 64 gonna be better. Who knows. Samsung don't even know yet. They still have no real idea till they fix issues with s6 and then maybe focus on 5.0 for note 4 then get back to building note 5
BAD ASS NOTE 4

It's probably an unpopular opinion to have in this forum, but i'm a little disappointed I spent the money to upgrade. It's not to say the Note 4 isn't a great phone, out of anything out there right now it's an easy pick for me, but it is in no way a significant upgrade from the 3. There are some very slight improvements, the screen for one. The screen on the 3 was already stellar, so it's hard to achieve a major upgrade here. The camera gets slightly more detail, although the photos are noisier and have more sharpening added to them (possibly the reason for the added noise?). The battery life is worse, not by a significant amount, but it is still worse for me. I notice no speed difference at all, if one exists it's too slight for my level of perception. The speaker is worse, maybe not in quality, but in placement. The build is nicer, definitely feels higher quality, but this is perception too, the Note 3 was already proven to be quite tough. I keep my phone in a case, so that's ultimately not much of a benefit to me either. The fingerprint scanner I don't use, tried it and it often required multiple swipes, seems easier to just enter a code. The new white/cyan color scheme is atrocious, and I don't know what the hell they were thinking doing this on a phone with an AMOLED screen. Black backgrounds make MUCH more sense, not just to take advantage of high AMOLED contrast, but to conserve battery power also.
All in all, I regret spending $400 to upgrade, but the Note 4 is still an awesome phone. If I had been upgrading from an S4 or a Note 2, something along those lines, I think I would have a lot less regret about the money spent. Ultimately it depends on how much you want the slight improvements.

I came from an s4. Not a note 3.
But, I can tell you this phone is awesome. It's the "it" phone. And, will be for a long time.
Take the money for the note 3 and take the plunge.
My path has been g1and a wing, g2, s2, s3, s4, note 4.
I wouldn't have considered a note up until now because of the lack of development.
But, now. It's awesome. And, we are so lucky it's not locked down like the other carriers.
PS
We won't hate you because you admitted you have an iPhone.

Android_Monsters said:
I came from an s4. Not a note 3.
But, I can tell you this phone is awesome. It's the "it" phone. And, will be for a long time.
Take the money for the note 3 and take the plunge.
My path has been g1and a wing, g2, s2, s3, s4, note 4.
I wouldn't have considered a note up until now because of the lack of development.
But, now. It's awesome. And, we are so lucky it's not locked down like the other carriers.
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We won't hate you because you admitted you have an iPhone.
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We have the iPhone and there are some things which the iPhone is better, but again per me it all depends on what you do with the phone..

T mobile offered you 325 for your note 3? Last time I checked it was 190.
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Limeybastard said:
T mobile offered you 325 for your note 3? Last time I checked it was 190.
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Yes I believe it is still there and also sprint offers the same you may match the trade in value with them.

kgbeezr1 said:
It's probably an unpopular opinion to have in this forum, but i'm a little disappointed I spent the money to upgrade. It's not to say the Note 4 isn't a great phone, out of anything out there right now it's an easy pick for me, but it is in no way a significant upgrade from the 3. There are some very slight improvements, the screen for one. The screen on the 3 was already stellar, so it's hard to achieve a major upgrade here. The camera gets slightly more detail, although the photos are noisier and have more sharpening added to them (possibly the reason for the added noise?). The battery life is worse, not by a significant amount, but it is still worse for me. I notice no speed difference at all, if one exists it's too slight for my level of perception. The speaker is worse, maybe not in quality, but in placement. The build is nicer, definitely feels higher quality, but this is perception too, the Note 3 was already proven to be quite tough. I keep my phone in a case, so that's ultimately not much of a benefit to me either. The fingerprint scanner I don't use, tried it and it often required multiple swipes, seems easier to just enter a code. The new white/cyan color scheme is atrocious, and I don't know what the hell they were thinking doing this on a phone with an AMOLED screen. Black backgrounds make MUCH more sense, not just to take advantage of high AMOLED contrast, but to conserve battery power also.
All in all, I regret spending $400 to upgrade, but the Note 4 is still an awesome phone. If I had been upgrading from an S4 or a Note 2, something along those lines, I think I would have a lot less regret about the money spent. Ultimately it depends on how much you want the slight improvements.
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Thanks for taking time to explain it. I do feel same but I also think by upgrading we will have a newer device and also the warranty is now extended to one more year. Look at this this way say if we were to sell our note 3 end of 2015 we would hardly get anything out of it but by selling note 4 at least we get 300 so our upgrade might be only 25..... That is where I have the whole confusion.
My Note 3 battery barely makes it to the end of the day. I am not rooted and don't want to as I use a lot of soft card for cash back. I definitely don't want to loose that.

steve_togo said:
Yes I believe it is still there and also sprint offers the same you may match the trade in value with them.
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Oh right this must be for folks that are not existing t mobile customers .
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Limeybastard said:
Oh right this must be for folks that are not existing t mobile customers .
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Nope I am an existing customer. Did you check online.. What device do you have.

steve_togo said:
Nope I am an existing customer. Did you check online.. What device do you have.
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I had checked. I upgraded from a note 3 to a note 4 a few weeks back actually. That's why I sold mine on craigs list for funnily enough $325 as T Mobile were offering peanuts.
By the way well worth the upgrade. Think of it a refinement at its best.
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Limeybastard said:
I had checked. I upgraded from a note 3 to a note 4 a few weeks back actually. That's why I sold mine on craigs list for funnily enough $325 as T Mobile were offering peanuts.
By the way well worth the upgrade. Think of it a refinement at its best.
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How much did you pay and how many days has it been.

steve_togo said:
How much did you pay and how many days has it been.
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11/13 I beleive it was bought usual price whatever it was. I think 750 plus tax.
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Limeybastard said:
T mobile offered you 325 for your note 3? Last time I checked it was 190.
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Yeah my friend just got a good deal I think is was a little bit less but I guessing phone still sells
BAD ASS NOTE 4

steve_togo said:
Thanks for taking time to explain it. I do feel same but I also think by upgrading we will have a newer device and also the warranty is now extended to one more year. Look at this this way say if we were to sell our note 3 end of 2015 we would hardly get anything out of it but by selling note 4 at least we get 300 so our upgrade might be only 25..... That is where I have the whole confusion.
My Note 3 battery barely makes it to the end of the day. I am not rooted and don't want to as I use a lot of soft card for cash back. I definitely don't want to loose that.
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Good points, resale and warranty are valid reasons to trade up. My comments really focused on the complaints that I have with the phone as most other people have covered the high points, and of course there are many. It's subjective, obviously, but I don't think anything else out there at the moment surpasses it as a complete package.

I never owned a note 3 before. But I do own a 2012 Note 10.1 which I love very much. This Note 4 is even faster than my tablet and it really is impressive with everything I can do with it.
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I just returned my N910C

Yes, I returned my N910C and decided not to buy this MAGNIFICENT phone again. I am sick and tired of finding the right screen protectors that will not have HALO. I am also tired of the scratches on the bezel that seems to be getting worse every time I remove the case. I am also tired of finding the sweet spot when I put the phone on the Qi charger because I am using a third party Qi receiver that is not centered on the back of the phone.
I kept a blind eye on the 5.0.1 lag (previous apps) and worse battery performance than 4.4.4 hoping Samsung will immediately push updates as this is still a top of the line phone/phablet, but it seems like they are don't give a damn and are focusing on the S6 and S6 Edge, and there is another news that the iPhone 6s is coming so Samsung is preparing for the Note 5. That hit the final nail in the coffin for me...
I have wasted a lot for buying and trying different tempered glass and cases that will fit with the OEM Qi charger
I am now looking at the older Note 3 and other alternatives, but I am not in a rush... I might wait and see what the Note 5 brings on the table.

xdm9mm said:
Yes, I returned my N910C and decided not to buy this MAGNIFICENT phone again. I am sick and tired of finding the right screen protectors that will not have HALO. I am also tired of the scratches on the bezel that seems to be getting worse every time I remove the case. I am also tired of finding the sweet spot when I put the phone on the Qi charger because I am using a third party Qi receiver that is not centered on the back of the phone.
I kept a blind eye on the 5.0.1 lag (previous apps) and worse battery performance than 4.4.4 hoping Samsung will immediately push updates as this is still a top of the line phone/phablet, but it seems like they are don't give a damn and are focusing on the S6 and S6 Edge, and there is another news that the iPhone 6s is coming so Samsung is preparing for the Note 5. That hit the final nail in the coffin for me...
I have wasted a lot for buying and trying different tempered glass and cases that will fit with the OEM Qi charger
I am now looking at the older Note 3 and other alternatives, but I am not in a rush... I might wait and see what the Note 5 brings on the table.
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I bought a 2.5D Screen protector that fits perfectly on my phone,i spent just 3 dollars., yes, i've scratches everywhere, but who cares ? put a case and forget this, remember, it's aluminium!
Samsung will update the Note 4 with the newer touchwiz soon.. i'm having the same battery life on lollipop that i was having on kitkat, 4.5~6 hours of SOT on a full day.
the major problem it's the lag on recents apps (i can live with this), with BOC7 they fixed the GPU bug, so, no phone is perfect, but the note 4 it's the most close to it.

I have to eat my words....... I just ordered another one for myself, and one for my wife as she wants to upgrade her S4, and no, iCrap is banned in our family... I can't find anything better for my needs atm... I'm really F%^&# by samsung

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I have to eat my words....... I just ordered another one for myself, and one for my wife as she wants to upgrade her S4, and no, iCrap is banned in our family... I can't find anything better for my needs atm... I'm really F%^&# by samsung
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I downgraded back to KK because of all the problems, like you I am struggling to find a phone with the same credentials as the Note 4, as a day to day handset it is awesome on KK, camera is amazing only just being edged out by the LG G4 it would appear.
I've been looking at a Nexus 6 but it is just massive and I think the N4 is about as big a phone as I am comfortable with, considering rooting it and installing CM12.1 atm.

I regret not returning my Note 4 when I could...
I must agree, this phone is bug ridden...
Recent apps loading screen is far to laggy. Closing all apps randomly. Camera performance is terrible in any light other than outdoors with fantastic lighting. Sound isn't that great through the speaker... GPS bugs. I mean, I'm very disappointed with Samsung for not pushing updates faster to this phone... If a few more months come and they're not all ironed out, I'm going to just take a hit and buy the G4 or the Z4. Yeah, I'll miss the screen size... but in all honesty, battery life, performance and camera are the most important things. Battery life is hit and miss from day to day... Performance while multitasking is laggy and a hit and miss. I hate multitasking and then only pressing button again to see that it had cleared out ALL my apps! And the camera? Meh... I mean, good ... very good camera! But only for day shots. I miss my 1520 / 930 camera... Wow... What a camera! But no WP for me for a while though!
Maybe I'll just argue with Amazon for a while... Maybe they'll return my device...

G4 is probably best bet with 5.1
Problems are really down to Android 5.0.x, have a look at the Xperia Zx owners they are having similar problems with 5.0.x

We just need lil fixes for our Note.
GPU, interface lag, memory bleeding, frequency scaling and get rid of annoying log of every f*cking app.
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Google did a shoddy job with 5.0.X updates, even the Nexus users are complaining a lot so leaving the Note 4 for another phone that is also on 5.0.X or 5.1 is pointless really.

Is the Galaxy Note 4 N910C Region Locked?

POLO_i780 said:
Google did a shoddy job with 5.0.X updates, even the Nexus users are complaining a lot so leaving the Note 4 for another phone that is also on 5.0.X or 5.1 is pointless really.
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Very true. Using the Nexus 5 wasn't very enjoyable pre-5.1. Now with 5.1.1, it's even better. Google's fault, not Samsung.
DarkGuyver said:
Is the Galaxy Note 4 N910C Region Locked?
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Mine was not.
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DarkGuyver said:
Is the Galaxy Note 4 N910C Region Locked?
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Nope...

optimummind said:
Mine was not.
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Nope...
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Great, so you didn't have to activate it when you first turn it on with a local SIM Card?

Yes

DarkGuyver said:
Great, so you didn't have to activate it when you first turn it on with a local SIM Card?
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Right, didn't have to activate my Straight Talk SIM card. Just set the APN, rebooted, & everything worked.
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I dont know why you are having such problem.
Have you tried SweetROM? C has more custom roms than U, and U users are doing just fine. You will never find a phone that doesnt scratch, it seems half of your problems are not even directly concerning note4; qi charger.... screen protector.
Life is not perfect, but we try to deal with it. Try doing somethingelse if you find yourself staring at your phone.

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Right, didn't have to activate my Straight Talk SIM card. Just set the APN, rebooted, & everything worked.
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Excellent, just needed to clarify that. As I've read on some online stores that you have the Note 4 N910C needs to be activated with a local SIM Card and you have to make a 5 minute call before you can use it internationally.

Are you people on drugs or? Why the heck would you return your phone because you can't find a screen protector? It's Gorilla Glass 4 for **** sake, you don't need a screen protector. And I don't know about the lag you're talking about, but my Note 4 doesn't have any lag on recent apps and I get 6 hours avg. SoT. Camera is one of the best I've encountered to date, the only one that can rival it is the Iphone 6.

Careful with rushing out to buy the G4, the 808 has poorer performance than the 805 and the GPU isn't as good, you'll get dropped frames in games etc. I'm tempted by the G4 but I see absolutely no improvement over the Note 4. A lot of the Note 4s problems is Lollipops "Vista's" fault and whoever said the camera on the Note 4 isn't good is mad, it's one of the best smart phone cameras around today. Whilst the N4 isn't perfect, it's still top or close to top of the smartphone pile these days. Wait a couple of months and people will be moaning and complaining about the G4 or latest flagship. It's the Emperor's new clothes syndrome.

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Excellent, just needed to clarify that. As I've read on some online stores that you have the Note 4 N910C needs to be activated with a local SIM Card and you have to make a 5 minute call before you can use it internationally.
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That would be the Note 3, Note 4 is not region locked but they did limit the LTE bands by region to reduce the grey market for phones.

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That would be the Note 3, Note 4 is not region locked but they did limit the LTE bands by region to reduce the grey market for phones.
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Really? I saw on a online store that the Note 4 N910C is Region Lock, which is the reason why I asked about that. Since I know for a fact that Samsung did incorporate Region Locking starting from the Galaxy S 4 shortly after it's release.
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Are you people on drugs or? Why the heck would you return your phone because you can't find a screen protector? It's Gorilla Glass 4 for **** sake, you don't need a screen protector.
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You do know that just because you have a Gorilla Glass 4 screen doesn't mean that the screen of your phone can't be scratch or damaged? I've seen drop test, which have shown Gorllia Glass 4 screen spider-web when the hit the pavement!!

Is it worth jumping to the s7

Do you think think its worth jumping to the s7 from the s6? what are your guys thought?

I'm thinking about it. I'm interested in the bigger battery, the IP67, and the return of the SD card.. Th IP67 is a big one for me.
However I'm also really interested in never spending that kind of money for a dang phone again, so there's that. I really like the Mi5 if we can ever get it, and I'd like to see Moto's next gen stuff. I almost went X pure instead of S6, but I didn't want that big of a phone.

It is a personal decision for sure but I have been on the Galaxy line since S3 and all of them right up to my current S6 have been rooted and absolute work horses with each subsequent phone being that much better.

Can someone explain to me how jump actually works? I have an s6 edge. If I trade it in for an s7 edge do they credit me something for my device? I put 200 down and paid another 200 towards the balance. I just don't want to be out 400 bucks only to start over.
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Can someone explain to me how jump actually works? I have an s6 edge. If I trade it in for an s7 edge do they credit me something for my device? I put 200 down and paid another 200 towards the balance. I just don't want to be out 400 bucks only to start over.
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Send me a private message. I just got an email from Tmo explaining it.

cwhiatt said:
Send me a private message. I just got an email from Tmo explaining it.
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can you send it to me as well. im in the same delimma, im already over 200 in and i dont want to start over on another phone. im also on Jump 1. you think its better to stay on it or go to on demand?

I think liquid cooling may be enough for me to jump on the band wagon. I also like the ip68 water resistant protection. As far as liquid cooling goes I find my s6 is to sluggish when temperature throttling kicks in. This is a huge flaw imo. It heats up too quickly especially since I am a multitasker. Also the gear vr is almost unusable because it turns into a pancake griddle after 10 min of use. This time I am going to see if the s7 will be a better fit.
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Jump on demand doc:
https://support.t-mobile.com/docs/D..._source=transactional&utm_campaign=Email_Tool

I'm really torn about upgrading to the s7 myself. Unfortunately, I opted out of the Jump program when I got my s6, so I'd have to sell my phone myself and can't trade it in.
Sammy's made all the right improvements in the s7.

It's very tempting for me but the removal of the ir blaster closed the deal for me :/
Honestly once we get mm on the s6 most of my quirks with the s6 will be gone and I'll be a happy customer once more. I might even try to put a s7 battery in my s6.
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Honestly, I am going to wait for like 3-4 months until after the s7 has been released. This way I can see if there is support for great custom ROMs like XtreStoLite or XtraLite as well as kernels like arter97. I wouldn't be able to bring myself to get a brand new phone without root, have to deal with bloat, and can't customize it with ROMs for months to come. Also, it's generally a good idea to get the newer devices a few months after launch so that many of the bugs can be ironed out. I prefer to have a flawless and bugless experience when upgrading phones!

I pre-ordered... A few reasons why...
1: I'm on Jump on Demand and have 3 trades left in 8 months
2: The preorder extras (GEAR VR and year of netflix)
3: The IP68 and memory card reader
Those are my main reasons for switching... mainly the Jump on demand, the rest is just extras on top

robogoflow said:
Can someone explain to me how jump actually works? I have an s6 edge. If I trade it in for an s7 edge do they credit me something for my device? I put 200 down and paid another 200 towards the balance. I just don't want to be out 400 bucks only to start over.
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It depends on which Jump version you are on. Theres V1, V2, and On Demand.
V1 is every 6 months you can trade it in, regardless of what you owe. They'll pay off the balance on your EIP.
V2 is every 12 months, and you have to have 50% of your phone paid off. They'll pay whatever is left of your EIP after that initial 50%.
On demand is the lease program. You can trade it in up to 3 times in any 18 month period. You don't technically own the phone so the whole EIP thing doesn't exist.
edit: just learned no IR on the S7.. Dangit Samsung, you've always got to screw up at least 1 thing!

ummduh said:
I'm thinking about it. I'm interested in the bigger battery, the IP67, and the return of the SD card.. Th IP67 is a big one for me.
However I'm also really interested in never spending that kind of money for a dang phone again, so there's that. I really like the Mi5 if we can ever get it, and I'd like to see Moto's next gen stuff. I almost went X pure instead of S6, but I didn't want that big of a phone.
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From someone that has theirs, it's well worth it. Of course this is all personal opinion.
If there's anything specific you want to know to help with your decision just ask and I'll answer.

Well tmobile. You held the update from us. You won. Just jumped to the s7.
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Gear VR
What I'd like to know is whether the Gear VR goggle that fits the S6 is also going to fit the S7??

cwhiatt said:
What I'd like to know is whether the Gear VR goggle that fits the S6 is also going to fit the S7??
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There are different ones? I thought they were the same. Anyway, yes it will fit. Side by side the S6 and S7 are the same size. The volume buttons are slightly lower by a few millimeters but that's it aside from the beveled edges and other very minor changes. I tried it in my S6 case and it fits (not as snug but it would work if I were in a dire need). I'll be picking up my VR's at the store tonight so I'll try my S6 in them... before I leave the store since I have to hand over the "old" phone.
I've loaded this phone with every benchmark app I can think of and it's coming out with double the marks of the S6. 3DMark running the Slingshot ES 3.1 test got 2555. The S6 gets around 1220. I'm at work so I can't type everything, plus this isn't my thread. That said, I assume you know to take benchmarks with a grain of salt. Even so having double the numbers speaks to the S7's capability on paper and under real stress. I'm done with my tangent now :silly:
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ummduh said:
edit: just learned no IR on the S7.. Dangit Samsung, you've always got to screw up at least 1 thing!
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I think the tradeoff is having the ability to save photos in RAW

cwhiatt said:
What I'd like to know is whether the Gear VR goggle that fits the S6 is also going to fit the S7??
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It does. The S7 is nearly identical in size and dimensions to the S6. I played with one at Costco and was surprised at how identical it was. The only difference was the color. Fortunately I had my Gear VR in my bag (was letting coworkers test drive it that day) and was able to plug it in. Fits exactly like my current S6 edge. It prompted to download the software so I ejected it but it does work and fit.

Daistaar said:
It does. The S7 is nearly identical in size and dimensions to the S6. I played with one at Costco and was surprised at how identical it was. The only difference was the color. Fortunately I had my Gear VR in my bag (was letting coworkers test drive it that day) and was able to plug it in. Fits exactly like my current S6 edge. It prompted to download the software so I ejected it but it does work and fit.
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Right on. I haven't used mine too much other than to play smash hit.

KCRic said:
From someone that has theirs, it's well worth it. Of course this is all personal opinion.
If there's anything specific you want to know to help with your decision just ask and I'll answer.
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What did you get? the flat or the edge? after playing around with it for a while, is there any major difference that you notice or its essentially the same with some added features?
i got the 128 gb s6 so i dont really know if it worth change to a 32 gb with a micro sd.
one thing that annoys me about my phone is the texting. I have a lot of texts or if i text fast, theres lag on it and not fluid. you guys experience the same? any other texting apps that are better then stock?

Considering upgrade to Note 4

I've had my Note 2 for 3.5 years now and I still like it but have recently been trying to decide whether it's time to move on and get something newer.
I think the only phone that I'd really consider is the Note 4 (the 5 isn't available in the UK ). I'd probably be looking at paying the same for an 18 month old phone as I did when I got my N2 (£30/m) and I got that the same month it was released.
Is it much of an upgrade over the Note 2 and does it still hold its own against newer phones released? I like the S Pen and screen size otherwise I might consider something else. Or I could just keep my N2 for another year.

Chrissssssss said:
I've had my Note 2 for 3.5 years now and I still like it but have recently been trying to decide whether it's time to move on and get something newer.
I think the only phone that I'd really consider is the Note 4 (the 5 isn't available in the UK ). I'd probably be looking at paying the same for an 18 month old phone as I did when I got my N2 (£30/m) and I got that the same month it was released.
Is it much of an upgrade over the Note 2 and does it still hold its own against newer phones released? I like the S Pen and screen size otherwise I might consider something else. Or I could just keep my N2 for another year.
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note 4 is a great phone, but if i were u i would wait or consider upgrading to s7 edge

From Note 2? Its a HUGE upgrade dude. For almost everything. Just compare the specs in GSMA, and its easy. Some things though can't be reflected on specs, and even in those areas its a huge upgrade. Just go for it.

I went from Note 2 to Note 4, and it was almost everything I hoped. Custom roms aren't as previlent, is the only downside, but cm13 is coming along nicely.

It's a huge upgrade
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If software and half ass fingerprint reader isn't a problem, Note 4 is perfect and can still go toe to toe with current flagships.

whshkhalid said:
note 4 is a great phone, but if i were u i would wait or consider upgrading to s7 edge
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Wait for what? The S7 edge is a silly price and I don't really see much use for the edge display. And I'd use a case that would cover it up anyway.

ithehappy said:
From Note 2? Its a HUGE upgrade dude. For almost everything. Just compare the specs in GSMA, and its easy. Some things though can't be reflected on specs, and even in those areas its a huge upgrade. Just go for it.
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Thanks. If it lasts as long as my Note 2 has I'll be happy. I think I'll go for it

Last September did the same,had my note 2 for about 2,5 years. Gave note 2 to my wife and then compared with my note 4. Note 4 is much pretier and with better feel on the hand, the screen is a big difference,when we put side by side the qHD beats the hell out of the HD. Note 4 is of course faster,the camera is awesome. The only downside its the fingerprint reader,it fails me 4 out of 10. I rooted and wear lots of custom roms on the note 2. When oassed to my wife went with a note 4 port rom,but now on note 4 haven't felt the need to root,i like the stock and abilities of spen and stuff,that's why i bought the note series,so why would i change. I advise you to buy it. You will notice the change. I will only upgrade from note 4 when we have a newer note with foldable display or something really new,otherwise not worth it,they just make some tiny spec upgrade.

GPS is a let down on note 4 my only gripe

Had my note 4 for almost 2 years, use is as Sat Nav for almost all my journeys. battery is great and just got better with software update. I had one issue with my simcard reader but samsung sent someone to collect my phone and i had it back all working in a new housing with new battery and usb cable within a week. My next upgrade is hopefully going to be the note 6 if it has SD card support, if not then ill stick with my trusty note 4

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GPS is a let down on note 4 my only gripe
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Here works fone and fast

The only thing I really miss from Note 2 is the FM radio receiver. There is also a question of size (the Note 4 is a bit taller and it shows when in pocket), durability (the plastic Note 2 held better the few dints and scratches than the metal Note 4) and the access to microSD card (blame Lollipop).
That said, it is a huge upgrade on most areas and a fantastic handset with both removable battery (I keep a spare always charged for a 2-minute 0% to 100%) and microSD card (to keep all those beautiful photos and videos it can capture and record, while also keeping a ton of media). The screen is beautiful and the quick charging ability is also of notice (for when you forget to bring the spare battery). The speaker is almost as week as the Note 2's, but it has great sound when coupled with decent headphones. For gaming, the Game Tuner app helps getting the balance between a good visual experience, frame rates and battery life (you just need to manually adjust the parameters). The S-Pen suite is also improved and the pen itself is leaps and bounds better (it comes with two spare tips as hard as the ones on Note 2 if you really want it).
Just go for it if you can't wait for Note 6 next September and are a Note fan.

Thanks everyone.
I hope I don't get GPS issues with the Note 4 and I do use that quite a lot on my Note 2. Is that something that shows up straight away if there's a problem or goes wrong after time?
I probably could wait 6 months but I'd have to wait 6 more after that as I'd probably renue my SIM only deal for another year if I kept the N2. Think I'll make the jump now. Very surprised there's nothing really catching my eye after 3.5 years.
Interestingly (maybe) EE don't actually sell the Note 4 directly anymore but loads of online places sell it with an EE contract.
I rarely use the FM radio on my phone so don't think I'll miss that. Is the SD card access the same as on a Lollipop CM ROM on this phone? And is Marshmallow out for the N4?

And spare tips for the pen sounds good. My daughter bit the end off my pen so I had to buy a new one

So The Note 4, it's excellent, the Camera rocks and removable battery and sdCard.
The s7 edge? From a Note? Don't do it - I did The s6edge+ fantastic, kept The Note.
You'll love it. Or wait for this years Note6 of that's an option.
The Note4 remains a fabulous phone.
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Chrissssssss said:
And spare tips for the pen sounds good. My daughter bit the end off my pen so I had to buy a new one
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I dont have any gps issues,marsmallow already came out for spring variant so ours should have it soon. And mine came with 3 black tips and 2 white ones and a small plier to exchange it. And again believe in me i also changed N2 for N4 and i never regretted or felt disappointed

Chrissssssss said:
Thanks everyone.
I hope I don't get GPS issues with the Note 4 and I do use that quite a lot on my Note 2. Is that something that shows up straight away if there's a problem or goes wrong after time?
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I don't get the GPS issues on my phone either. Although GLONASS accessibility is an exclusively available thing in India. But if I remember right, Note 2 indeed was faster to have sat locks, I mean I don't remember much, cause its 3 years since I have used the Note 2 but it was almost instant outside and even in indoor it was 30 seconds if not less. This Note 4 on other hand takes around 30-60 seconds for outside lock sometimes for me (especially when my data is off), and in indoor in takes around a couple of minutes (again, if Data or WiFi is off). What I gather from these new phones is that they depend on your A-GPS setting quite a lot, which I don't think was the case with Note 2. In any case its no deal breaker at all. Just a little more waiting time, that's all. Accuracy is immaculate, far better than Note 2 anyway
In any case if problem should happen then there's an app called TopNTP, do install that, it made my otherwise half dead GPS response of my Note 3, somewhat half-awake. They keep some special NTP servers or something. Nifty app.
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And is Marshmallow out for the N4?
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Yes, for ONE carrier, in ONE country, Sprint or something. But I am sure the international release will happen soon.

Well my Note 4 has now been ordered. Got an email asking me to ring to give them some extra info or something but they're shut now.
Excited now No other phones I want, Note 5 not available over here (and no SD card ), Note 6 (if it does come to the UK) will probably be silly price, and I'm sure I'll be happy with the Note 4.
Thanks everyone

I got a note 4 off my brother and love it. It's quick, reliable and good battery life considering its nearly 2 years old.
Should you consider it is another question.
Pros:
Screen on par with most new phones, enough power and battery life is good enough considering the screen size and remember this was one of the first with qhd. Has everything the new Samsung phones have.
Cons - it's not 64bit and marshmallow update will probably be the last official update. There are only few custom roms which are up to date although you do have cm13 roms out there is you decide to give up on the spen features. If you looking to future proof yourself I would probably get a note 6 or find a note 5 on ebay. At least that way you'll get android n and more chances of newer custom roms.
If you not all interested in the updates you should definitely consider a note 4(there are note 5 ports which make your feel newer and echoerom online is excellent). Looks good and performance is as good as you can get out there. Plus it's a lot better than the note 2.