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I have had my Bionic for a while now and have been thinking about rooting it. I finally got the ICS update but have been using GO Launcher too much to even notice it. Anyway, like I said, I want to root my phone. I am current on all updates. For some reason it's running at a tenth of it's memory tho not much is running that I can see. This leads me to believe there's things running in the background that I can not see. I am reluctant to get rid of all my apps, but I also don't want anything that's eating all my resources either. I kinda want to start new but kinda don't. I guess I just don't like letting go of anything.
I know this is selfish of me, but I am hoping that this thread will stay clean of others chiming in asking about their issues. I just don't want the thread to lose focus since this is about what I hope to get from my phone.
Ok, so here are my questions or favors to ask:
Since my phone is fully updated, do I need to do some other updated steps for rooting my phone or is rooting always the same no matter the build or version?
When I go to root my phone, I back up everything first and then I get it back, right?
I read somewhere that it's possible to brick the phone. What precautions should I take to avoid that?
Can I get all the benefits of a rooted phone without a ROM?
Are ROMs really that awesome that I should get one, or three?
I am interested in a ROM after some posts and pages I read. I was attracted to CM at first but so is everyone else probably at first. Does CM even work on the Bionic? And if it does, does everything work like the camera and Bluetooth?
As I said earlier, I use GO Launcher. One of the things I really like about it is the folders I can make in the App Drawer. Now CM is based off of ADW Launcher, but no options to make folders in the app drawer? Is it possible in any way if I choose CM as my main ROM?
Is CM overrated? Liberty and Eclipse look nice too. I also read a little, very little, about AOKP. Any suggestions? I want to get rid of a lot of extra processes and bloatware but I don't want to lose some of the apps pre-installed like Google Maps and Navigation, etc. Unless there are other, much better replacements that anyone knows of.
I know most of this is personal preference but I am hoping to find a comprehensive way at figuring out what's best for me.
I had more questions but I will wait and ask more as the thread continues.
Oh, I don't really need answers in step by step unless I ask. A simple link would suffice unless it's not covered anywhere.
Thanks for reading this, I hope I am not frustrating anyone as I am sure similar posts have been made.
You're basically asking to have this entire forum summarized into one post...
Spend some time reading, then ask smaller, more concise questions.
Not trying to sound like a ****, but i could spend an hour answering all of that. Half of those questions could be answered with some reading of the ROM specific threads.
Sent from my DROID BIONIC using Tapatalk 2
Ok, I know that SOME of the questions are answered somewhere else. The thing is that after I read one thread only to find it unsolved, I read others that are are 50 pages long going nowhere as well. I haven't seen anything about my phone being fully updated and I am not going any further until I know for sure from someone like a DEV that I can.
Some of these questions are yes/no questions, which wouldn't take long at all to answer, maybe even less time it takes to write a complaint about my post. I certainly don't expect one person to write for an hour on every topic I asked about. I thought it would be a collective effort.
I guess I will take this slowly.
Since my Droid Bionic is updated to the current versions, do I need to do this differently than others have used in the past to root this phone?
Where is the best method to do this?
Before I start, I have to backup everything, right? If so, what's the best way to go about backing up everything?
I read somewhere that there are 3 things you should do to make sure you avoid bricking. I have since lost it. Does anybody know a surefire way to do this.
Please be gentle.
CycoPuppet said:
Ok, I know that SOME of the questions are answered somewhere else. The thing is that after I read one thread only to find it unsolved, I read others that are are 50 pages long going nowhere as well. I haven't seen anything about my phone being fully updated and I am not going any further until I know for sure from someone like a DEV that I can.
Some of these questions are yes/no questions, which wouldn't take long at all to answer, maybe even less time it takes to write a complaint about my post. I certainly don't expect one person to write for an hour on every topic I asked about. I thought it would be a collective effort.
I guess I will take this slowly.
Since my Droid Bionic is updated to the current versions, do I need to do this differently than others have used in the past to root this phone?
Where is the best method to do this?
Before I start, I have to backup everything, right? If so, what's the best way to go about backing up everything?
I read somewhere that there are 3 things you should do to make sure you avoid bricking. I have since lost it. Does anybody know a surefire way to do this.
Please be gentle.
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1st question . No, your phone is not special since it is updated what worked for others will work for you.
2nd follow this link and the instructions to the letter http://www.droidrzr.com/index.php/topic/4026-samurihls-house-of-bionic/
3rd . Since you are stock. I would suggest using Verizon's back up services. TiBu requires root. IMHO I wouldn't bother because Google automatically backs up contacts and most roms require you to do a full data wipe.
There is no magic formula to keep from bricking your phone. Just follow directions and if you can't tolerate the risk don't do it.
From my EVOLVED bionic
Obsidian_soul said:
1st question . No, your phone is not special since it is updated what worked for others will work for you.
2nd follow this link and the instructions to the letter Can not post links
3rd . Since you are stock. I would suggest using Verizon's back up services. TiBu requires root. IMHO I wouldn't bother because Google automatically backs up contacts and most roms require you to do a full data wipe.
There is no magic formula to keep from bricking your phone. Just follow directions and if you can't tolerate the risk don't do it.
From my EVOLVED bionic
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That link no longer works
Also I found an article named "Learn How-To Root, Custom Recovery, Backup, And De-Bloat Your DROID BIONIC" while searching around for ROM ideas and such. Anyway, after reading this, it almost seems as if I don't need to do factory reset. Is this ok?
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That link no longer works
Also I found an article named "Learn How-To Root, Custom Recovery, Backup, And De-Bloat Your DROID BIONIC" while searching around for ROM ideas and such. Anyway, after reading this, it almost seems as if I don't need to do factory reset. Is this ok?
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Just last week I started with a stock ICS Bionic and followed this guide to root: http://droidbionicroot.com/droid-bionic-root/how-to-root-ics-on-droid-bionic-and-motorola-android/
That went very well. I wanted to try out JB 4.2.2, so I installed SafeStrap and an official CM 10.1 nightly. The net result was that I had a very unstable phone until I did a factory reset . As of this writing, however, it's behaving extremely well. YMMV.
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Just last week I started with a stock ICS Bionic and followed this guide to root: Can not post links
That went very well. I wanted to try out JB 4.2.2, so I installed SafeStrap and an official CM 10.1 nightly. The net result was that I had a very unstable phone until I did a factory reset . As of this writing, however, it's behaving extremely well. YMMV.
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Ok, so you flashed the ROM, didn't work so well, then you did a factory reset. Doesn't a factory reset wipe the phone? If that's the case, doesn't it wipe out the ROM?
Oh one more thing. Following this link, does this wipe the data from my phone? Anything I should back up before doing this? Should I do any updates before flashing CM 10?
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Ok, so you flashed the ROM, didn't work so well, then you did a factory reset. Doesn't a factory reset wipe the phone? If that's the case, doesn't it wipe out the ROM?
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No, a factory data reset doesn't wipe the ROM, but it does require running the initial setup (as if you were setting up a brand new phone).
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...one more thing. Following this link, does this wipe the data from my phone? Anything I should back up before doing this? Should I do any updates before flashing CM 10?
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You definitely want to back up everything you're not willing to lose. I ran a backup the very first thing after installing SafeStrap, and it was a good thing because with all my messing around I managed to bork my stock ROM to the point that it wouldn't boot. Fortunately, all I had to do was restore it from a backup.
My phone on CM 10.1 had enough issues with freezing and crashing that I decided this morning to try a different ROM. So far, I've had really good results with Icarus HD (a custom ICS ROM). I really don't know if my experience with CM 10.1 was typical.
OK, so I want to root. Now does rooting wipe any data? Regarding Safestrap, I install that first before rooting?
Rooting doesn't wipe any data. Root first, then install SafeStrap.
Okay, I will be rooting and installing safestrap when I get home for work today. I will still have more questions I am sure. I do have a few before I actually start rooting or right after.
I know safestrap makes a backup/recovory, but is it full recovery only or can I recover portions, like say my Dolphin browser with the settings and bookmarks?
I read that when making a backup of stock ROM, use sdcard, I'm sure that means external but when flashing a ROM, will that wipe data from the external card?
When setting up slots for multi booting ROMs, gernally how much storage do they need?
If I have two different ROMs, does it act like user accounts in Windows, would I have to download the same app on each ROM or do both ROMs have access?
Can one ROM have stuff I don't want the other ROM to have visible?
CycoPuppet said:
I know safestrap makes a backup/recovory, but is it full recovery only or can I recover portions, like say my Dolphin browser with the settings and bookmarks?
I read that when making a backup of stock ROM, use sdcard, I'm sure that means external but when flashing a ROM, will that wipe data from the external card?
When setting up slots for multi booting ROMs, gernally how much storage do they need?
If I have two different ROMs, does it act like user accounts in Windows, would I have to download the same app on each ROM or do both ROMs have access?
Can one ROM have stuff I don't want the other ROM to have visible?
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1. SafeStrap is full recovery only. Use Titanium Backup for backing up apps and data.
2. Flashing a ROM won't do anything to your external SD card.
3. When you set up ROM slots, you'll be asked how much room you'd like to allocate for data. The choices are 1, 2, or 3 GB. I started off allocating 3 GB to the stock ROM slot and was never able to load more than 3 separate ROMs before I ran out of room. I'd start with just using 1 GB for data.
4. Each ROM is an island. You have to download the apps separately (unless when you go through the initial setup you tell the system to restore apps and settings from the Google servers.)
Cool. I rooted and got safestrap but it's version 3.05 and not 3.11. Some ROM I was interested in said must have 3.11, which I am assuming that's the newest one so far. I did watch a tutorial about getting the current version, so no question there.
So the ROMs are separate islands and during flashing they can be in slots allocated up to 3GB. Does that mean that's the only amount of storage I can have when running that ROM? Say I like taking lots of photos and didn't save them to my external card, could I essentially run out of space or is the storage allocation just for the ROM itself and any updates it may have?
Sorry about these series of questions, just want to make sure I am doing it correctly in case I might make a mistake for future's sake.
The storage allocation is for the ROM, apps, and data that haven't been assigned to the external SD card. You can definitely run out of space if you load several ROMs and don't save any of your data to the external SD card.
Also, keep in mind that when VZW sends the OTA update to 4.1 next week, the only way to keep root is to root in ICS and use Voodoo OTA Rootkeeper to protect root before you take the OTA. If you flash the system image, you will lose root, and there is no known working root exploit for the Bionic JB release.
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Hey, I used Voodoo before flashing the 4.1 update, but forgot to update the binary beforehand, and therefore lost root. Anyone have any luck yet with an exploit for the OTA?
And there's no working FXZ before this now, correct? This software is now the earliest version I can FXZ to?
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Hey, I used Voodoo before flashing the 4.1 update, but forgot to update the binary beforehand, and therefore lost root. Anyone have any luck yet with an exploit for the OTA?
And there's no working FXZ before this now, correct? This software is now the earliest version I can FXZ to?
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Not root exploit yet for bionic JB. And if you try to FXZ back to an earlier version, you will brick your phone.
OK, so I rooted, got safestrap tho still not updated to 3.11, got TBU (free), got Voodoo. I had to race the clock today cuz it was updating android, or at least downloading the update. The root process I used gave me SuperSU and didn't tell me the version for the SU binaries. I searched around and all I could find was info on SuperUser in regards to backing up root. I uninstalled SuperSU, kinda. I just told it to use a different SU cuz when I used SuperUser and updated the binaries, SuperSU wanted to update them, then I opened SuperUser and the binaries reverted back. I was worried so I just told SuperSU to use a different SU. Was that ok? I didn't update to JB yet. Has there been luck with the Bionic using voodoo and keeping root after the JB update?
All this back and forth means I'm making a full image backup, then trying various ROMs. I've tried CM10.1, too many issues (no car dock, trouble installing lots of apps, no speakerphone). Next is... Whizzed Bean?
EDIT: Seems Speakerphone issue was fixed in the 0420 nightly. Will have to try it again.
AND I copied all the backups to my PC, so I can restore them at will (provided the phone still boots, that is... )
If I can't find a JB ROM I like I guess I can do HouseofBionic reflash (which did NOT cause me to lose data, as I upgraded to ICS that way) then allow the JB OTA to go through.
*sigh*... So much bull**** in these updates.
Hope someone sees my question above. I still haven't updated to JB yet. Once I do I will be flashing ROMs. I am interested in CM, Liquid Smooth, Icarus Hd and Wizzed Bean or Synergy (executioner ) Both WB and Synergy look indentical. What is the differences.
CycoPuppet said:
Hope someone sees my question above. I still haven't updated to JB yet. Once I do I will be flashing ROMs. I am interested in CM, Liquid Smooth, Icarus Hd and Wizzed Bean or Synergy (executioner ) Both WB and Synergy look indentical. What is the differences.
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WB is a fork of CNA (codename Android) 4.1 JB (which is itself based on AOSP)
while Synergy is a fork of the standard Moto ICS (.246).
Yes, they look identical because they both used the Samsung UI elements.
Hi guys, I have done research on this but seem to get very different responses, I wanted to flash my cappy to Cyanogenmon 10.1 nightly (jellybean 4.2.2) but now I'm not sure, I've flashed it for testing for an hour before going back to stock, the problems I had is that boot times seemed to be a LOT longer and after I restored my messages with Titanium Backup the messaging app force closed as soon as I open a conversation. I also met a guy when buying resistors (to make a jig lol) and he said that when he had cyanogenmod his battery went down twice as fast and his apps started force closing (but I don't know when that was and if the mod is more stable now).
So, I really need some advise and want to know the pros and cons of the mod, also would be nice to know how I can backup and restore my messages without FC's, also how can I get the samsung apps that came with the phone to cyanogen mod (and would restoring data from a nandroid backup restore all my apps?).
Thanks in advance,
Nik
You have many more options, not only CM10.1 (still in experimental stage) and stock. What firmware you'll chose is your personal preference. Take a look at Captivate Android Development section. Notice how many downloads most popular ROMs have. Do you think those thousands of people fight every day with stability issues and FC? Me personally, I'll never go back to stock. After trying many different ROMs I found what I'm looking for and my phone is now faster (including boot time), stable (I don't remember last FC) and can do way more compared to stock. My battery life with JB is actually better than stock GB. And yes, you can have Samsung apps. For me this bloatware was one of the first things to remove after rooting stock GB. My very first ROM to flash was CM10 stable. Never had any issues with it. Most of the problems are user created (corrupted flash files, incorrect flash sequence, missed reset/format steps, incorrect system data restore from previous Android versions, etc). And you don't need a jig to enter download mode. I never had one, had my phone soft bricked twice, flashed it countless times with Odin and through CWM... and it's still alive. Read carefully all the tutorials and troubleshooting guides.
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You have many more options, not only CM10.1 (still in experimental stage) and stock. What firmware you'll chose is your personal preference. Take a look at Captivate Android Development section. Notice how many downloads most popular ROMs have. Do you think those thousands of people fight every day with stability issues and FC? Me personally, I'll never go back to stock. After trying many different ROMs I found what I'm looking for and my phone is now faster (including boot time), stable (I don't remember last FC) and can do way more compared to stock. My battery life with JB is actually better than stock GB. And yes, you can have Samsung apps. For me this bloatware was one of the first things to remove after rooting stock GB. My very first ROM to flash was CM10 stable. Never had any issues with it. Most of the problems are user created (corrupted flash files, incorrect flash sequence, missed reset/format steps, incorrect system data restore from previous Android versions, etc). And you don't need a jig to enter download mode. I never had one, had my phone soft bricked twice, flashed it countless times with Odin and through CWM... and it's still alive. Read carefully all the tutorials and troubleshooting guides.
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WOW Thanks for such a detailed reply, the reason I needed a jig is that odin froze during flashing and I got bricked (the brick screen didn't work as download mode in this case). I'll have a look at other ROMs, may I ask what ROM you went with at the end?
Thanks,
Nik
10.1 is fine and stable. messaging is a system app, so don't try to restore it, but restoring only the data should work.
after flashing, you can expect the rom to have a long boot the first time, and to be pretty laggy for as long as 10 minutes. later boots will be quicker. I also use an app, system tuner, to prevent a number of apps from loading at startup.
I stayed with cm10.1, after trying a few other roms. for me cm10.1 is fav.
nosurlife said:
I'll have a look at other ROMs, may I ask what ROM you went with at the end?
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Yes, but it's gonna cost you $10 per every flash/testing I did for you. And the total is a lot of money... :laugh:
Read your PM -> Info what I use + links where to find it on XDA. But again, first read carefully all tutorials and flash instructions.
laughingT said:
10.1 is fine and stable. messaging is a system app, so don't try to restore it, but restoring only the data should work.
after flashing, you can expect the rom to have a long boot the first time, and to be pretty laggy for as long as 10 minutes. later boots will be quicker. I also use an app, system tuner, to prevent a number of apps from loading at startup.
I stayed with cm10.1, after trying a few other roms. for me cm10.1 is fav.
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Thanks, I'll look into it.
Val D. said:
Yes, but it's gonna cost you $10 per every flash/testing I did for you. And the total is a lot of money... :laugh:
Read your PM -> Info what I use + links where to find it on XDA. But again, first read carefully all tutorials and flash instructions.
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I wish I could spam the thanks button multiple times haha, I'll go check out the ROMs, so there's no way to keep my txts?
And is there any difference in RAM usage between stock and other ROMs?
Thanks,
Nik
nosurlife said:
Thanks, I'll look into it.
I wish I could spam the thanks button multiple times haha, I'll go check out the ROMs, so there's no way to keep my txts?
And is there any difference in RAM usage between stock and other ROMs?
Thanks,
Nik
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You can backup your texts with a app like Titanium Backup.
BWolf56 said:
You can backup your texts with a app like Titanium Backup.
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I did that but now the messaging app has the conversations when I open it but when I try to open a conversation it FCs,
What can I do now?
nosurlife said:
I did that but now the messaging app has the conversations when I open it but when I try to open a conversation it FCs,
What can I do now?
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Ok fixed it, did a reset and restored with SMS Backup & Restore now no FCs.
Thanks to everyone I am now happily running Slim Bean release 3 (4.2.2).
CyanogenMod 10.1 taking more RAM
BWolf56 said:
You can backup your texts with a app like Titanium Backup.
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Hi,
I have flashed my cappy with CM 10.1 Nightly(JB 4.2.2), but now it seems this is using more RAM. already in captivate we have only 512 MB RAM and it uses about 322 MB of it. Is there any solution for this ?? or will flashing some other rom will help ?
mangaicaptivate said:
Hi,
I have flashed my cappy with CM 10.1 Nightly(JB 4.2.2), but now it seems this is using more RAM. already in captivate we have only 512 MB RAM and it uses about 322 MB of it. Is there any solution for this ?? or will flashing some other rom will help ?
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That's normal.
As long as your phone runs fast and smooth, don't worry about your RAM. Also, if you have bunch of apps running in the background, stopping them will lower your RAM consumption.
BWolf56 said:
That's normal.
As long as your phone runs fast and smooth, don't worry about your RAM. Also, if you have bunch of apps running in the background, stopping them will lower your RAM consumption.
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Aww I was going to say that haha, the main thing to watch is CPU as RAM is managed differently on android from a PC.
Another thing I noticed is that having a lot of widgets can cause a bit of lag too.
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I have flashed my cappy with CM 10.1 Nightly(JB 4.2.2), but now it seems this is using more RAM. already in captivate we have only 512 MB RAM and it uses about 322 MB of it. Is there any solution for this ?? or will flashing some other rom will help ?
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As laughingT suggested, try an app like System Tuner to try to get startup apps under control. Greenify is another app to try before jumping ROMs. You can also go into Settings->Apps and Disable apps you do not use (personally I disable Gmail among others, seems to help battery life too). Additionally, alternate kernels may give you more usable RAM.
Edit: oops, missed the second page of posts... great responses to this question already
Just to confirm - uninstall/freeze apps you don't use (careful with system apps, some are required for the OS to run properly) but don't install any memory managers or task killers, especially auto task killers. They will only make things worse (slow). Android with full memory runs faster and smoother. Also, don't clear app cache for no reason.
After I bought the phone in 2010, it took me 6 months to build up the nerve to root. Then 2 weeks after that to start flashing.
I went back to stock GB rom at one point and gave up - from my experience,GB is the least stable of the Android versions, bloats the easiest and is overall a lousy system. It;s the armpit of Android, really.
At one point last summer I gave up on Captivate and started using an old iPhone gifted from a friend. At that point the Cappy has 3 hour batter life, nothing worked, and absolutely nothing worked stably - I thought Android was done for, but I was wrong. After about 3 months with the iPhone, I woke up the Cappy, took her back to stock (and I am talking Eclair here) and then forward to CM10. I never looked back. I am currently on yesterday's nightly CM10.1. CM10 Stable was buttery smooth and with no problems at all, but now I am hungry for the new features, so I update the CM10.1 builds about once a week.
This is not to say other builds are not as good. CM is the ROM that revived my Cappy. I am happy with it, it works and is consistently developed with high quality control. I have no reason to switch. But there are many other fantastic-looking roms out there. The Experia roms, the PAC man roms .. they seem to have unique feature sets and stable code.
What I am saying, is that DO NOT stick to stock. And although CM is a great choice, there are many, many options out there .
PS: I have soft-bricked my phone a lot of times. After the first couple times, you will a) learn the value of backing up your data before doing anything, and b) you will have all the files/programs on your computer to revive your phone with a few well-rehearsed steps. (having a backup phone also does not hurt - for a long time I carried the iPhone with me - worried the cappy would crap out on me. I finally stopped worrying)
Best of luck.
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After I bought the phone in 2010, it took me 6 months to build up the nerve to root. Then 2 weeks after that to start flashing.
I went back to stock GB rom at one point and gave up - from my experience,GB is the least stable of the Android versions, bloats the easiest and is overall a lousy system. It;s the armpit of Android, really.
At one point last summer I gave up on Captivate and started using an old iPhone gifted from a friend. At that point the Cappy has 3 hour batter life, nothing worked, and absolutely nothing worked stably - I thought Android was done for, but I was wrong. After about 3 months with the iPhone, I woke up the Cappy, took her back to stock (and I am talking Eclair here) and then forward to CM10. I never looked back. I am currently on yesterday's nightly CM10.1. CM10 Stable was buttery smooth and with no problems at all, but now I am hungry for the new features, so I update the CM10.1 builds about once a week.
This is not to say other builds are not as good. CM is the ROM that revived my Cappy. I am happy with it, it works and is consistently developed with high quality control. I have no reason to switch. But there are many other fantastic-looking roms out there. The Experia roms, the PAC man roms .. they seem to have unique feature sets and stable code.
What I am saying, is that DO NOT stick to stock. And although CM is a great choice, there are many, many options out there .
PS: I have soft-bricked my phone a lot of times. After the first couple times, you will a) learn the value of backing up your data before doing anything, and b) you will have all the files/programs on your computer to revive your phone with a few well-rehearsed steps. (having a backup phone also does not hurt - for a long time I carried the iPhone with me - worried the cappy would crap out on me. I finally stopped worrying)
Best of luck.
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Yep, I'm never going back to stock I'm running slim bean (based on CM) android 4.2.2 and really enjoying all the features, the phone is so much smoother and looks much more professional then GB (no offense google lol).
Thanks,
Nik
I have a question hopefully someone can answer this. ok i want to update my phone since the new Verizon ota came out there is just one problem it doesn't let me it just keeps failing. i tried to unroot that didn't make a difference at all. i don't want to wipe my phone if i have to. can some one help me out .
Since you're rooted if you deleted any apps you'll have to FXZ to get back to stock. All the bloatware apps need to be there for the update to work.
oh ok isn't there an file floating around that you can get rid of and bring back the bloat because clearly i need to use that file because i really dont want to have to totally wipe everything and i forgot FXZ whast's that?
Your best bet is to go HERE and get the latest HoB (House of Bionic). Use it to upgrade to JB. Just make sure all your pics, music, anything you want saved are on your SD card or saved too your pc. Going to JB you'll wipe the phone and that's best anyhow.
I realize Im probably in the minority, but JB made my phone total garbage. We so laggy and unresponsive it was nearly unusable, so I wouldnt recommend updating to JB. Finally after I had enough I rooted and went to liquidsmooth and its running very nicely now.
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I realize Im probably in the minority, but JB made my phone total garbage. We so laggy and unresponsive it was nearly unusable, so I wouldnt recommend updating to JB. Finally after I had enough I rooted and went to liquidsmooth and its running very nicely now.
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Voodoo did you try doing a FDR (factory data reset)? It has helped many people who had laggy phones after update.
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Voodoo did you try doing a FDR (factory data reset)? It has helped many people who had laggy phones after update.
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I did everything everyone said to try, didnt help. Doesnt matter now, on liquidsmooth, way more customizable and runs super smooth. Or is is that liquidsmooth?
Hi guys, I have an old G1 at home that I've been using as a time killer, to play chess and some music. I want to try changing the ROM on it, because I have some problems with it, but i'm not sure where to begin. I'll give a quick rundown of the phone's problems and what I'm trying to do. This is an old machine I bought for my dad awhile ago. It's not been used for some time and I wanna to do something with it. It has a lot of problems which I don't understand. For example I cannot connect to google nor through a data plan on a simcard or through Wifi. I've seen threads having some tips on this but none helped. Same problem with some applications - facebook, teamviewer and so on. They just won't connect, although wifi works fine with the browser, so I don't know what going on. There are other problems as well and I think it's running slower than it should because it won't even manage to do stuff a generic G1 should - videos have to be heavily converted to even run - trying any video player is useless - it'll lag as hell. I have to convert to a specific audio and video format with lowered fps, then it runs ok, but still only using the generic video player. Anything else will just become a comic book.
Anyway - this is a phone I got off eBay and it already came rooted and with the Super D rom loaded (kernel 2.6.29.6-SuperD) So because all the problems I want to reflash it completely to try find out, whether it's all hardware related or the rom's unstable... Now, because it is already rooted and I'm new to this, I don't know where to start.
I have looked through a few rooting/flashing guides, but my problems is: I don't know whether I need to do it all, or can skip a few steps, because it being rooted already. For example whether I need to downgrade anything again, or not before going on. My first important question is, is there a point in flashing anything higher than android 1.6? As the phone is very limited with it's resources, I'm not sure, whether for example flashing the 2.2 froyo CM rom will do any good. Secondly: there are several different guides out there and I don't know which one is good for me. I believe I tried the one click thing once, but it didn't work then, but not sure what was the problem. I presume it is because I either didn't have to do all of it, or I didn't do something else I was supposed to.
So all in all, if someone could point me to a good guide, that would take in account the option, that it already is rooted and I just need to change the Rom, it would be greatly appreciated.
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Hi guys, I have an old G1 at home that I've been using as a time killer, to play chess and some music. I want to try changing the ROM on it, because I have some problems with it, but i'm not sure where to begin. I'll give a quick rundown of the phone's problems and what I'm trying to do. This is an old machine I bought for my dad awhile ago. It's not been used for some time and I wanna to do something with it. It has a lot of problems which I don't understand. For example I cannot connect to google nor through a data plan on a simcard or through Wifi. I've seen threads having some tips on this but none helped. Same problem with some applications - facebook, teamviewer and so on. They just won't connect, although wifi works fine with the browser, so I don't know what going on. There are other problems as well and I think it's running slower than it should because it won't even manage to do stuff a generic G1 should - videos have to be heavily converted to even run - trying any video player is useless - it'll lag as hell. I have to convert to a specific audio and video format with lowered fps, then it runs ok, but still only using the generic video player. Anything else will just become a comic book.
Anyway - this is a phone I got off eBay and it already came rooted and with the Super D rom loaded (kernel 2.6.29.6-SuperD) So because all the problems I want to reflash it completely to try find out, whether it's all hardware related or the rom's unstable... Now, because it is already rooted and I'm new to this, I don't know where to start.
I have looked through a few rooting/flashing guides, but my problems is: I don't know whether I need to do it all, or can skip a few steps, because it being rooted already. For example whether I need to downgrade anything again, or not before going on. My first important question is, is there a point in flashing anything higher than android 1.6? As the phone is very limited with it's resources, I'm not sure, whether for example flashing the 2.2 froyo CM rom will do any good. Secondly: there are several different guides out there and I don't know which one is good for me. I believe I tried the one click thing once, but it didn't work then, but not sure what was the problem. I presume it is because I either didn't have to do all of it, or I didn't do something else I was supposed to.
So all in all, if someone could point me to a good guide, that would take in account the option, that it already is rooted and I just need to change the Rom, it would be greatly appreciated.
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First thing I would do is just factory reset it through recovery (power on while holding home) and see if all works after this. Super d is for sure one of my favorite donut ROMs and it shouldn't be having the issues you have.
If that does little or nothing than write down all info from bootloader (power on while holding camera) here and the version of recovery you have (written in recovery screen)
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Hi. Thanks for the quick reply. I've already reset it multiple times, but it didn't change anything. What most angers me, is the Wifi issue (because I know my dad has been using his dataplan and it worked fine and when I tried it later, it just didn't work anymore) and the video thing.
As for the info:
Hboot-1.33.2005 (Drea11000)
Clpd-4
Radio-2.22.23.02
Recovery is ClockworkMod Recovery 2.5.0.7
Magicnet2 said:
Hi. Thanks for the quick reply. I've already reset it multiple times, but it didn't change anything. What most angers me, is the Wifi issue (because I know my dad has been using his dataplan and it worked fine and when I tried it later, it just didn't work anymore) and the video thing.
As for the info:
Hboot-1.33.2005 (Drea11000)
Clpd-4
Radio-2.22.23.02
Recovery is ClockworkMod Recovery 2.5.0.7
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Yes it is strange, try finding a ROM called donut by Laszlo, search is down right now but it should be within the first five pages or so in developers thread. Put on sdcard along with this
http://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=23212708291678371
First flash super wipe in recovery and then flash new ROM
If it all does not work still we will go from there
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Right, so I've got some new info on this. I wanted to go reflash, but just for the sake of it, I re-wiped though recovery and nothing changed. then on the second time, the market suddeny started working through wifi, which it has not for the past few months, even after 3 or 4 wipes. So it started working, but the signal kept failing. It found the first application, downloaded, installed, then "network problem" so I reflashed using the files you mentioned. It worked beautifully on the first fly, for which I am grateful. This was my main concern - I had no idea, whether I needed to change the radio or bootloader or anything prior to trying to flash the rom. So the rom works nice, the market and facebook and teamviewer do connect now using wifi, but I keep loosing the signal. Better said - he stays connected to wifi, just that the applications keep throwing network errors and loose connection. So I presume, it will be either hardware related, or I was wondering, if a change of radio might help... Secondly, I keep getting one more problem I had with the old Rom and that is - when using ES File explorer, when I close by pushing the back button, it closes and then an error says it stopped working and needs force closing. Wondering how this kind of error can transfer between different Roms. Again - posibly hardware related? I don't know.
Anyway, the rom works nice, so I'll try it out and see if it's better than the previous one. One question though - when flashing to a different Rom, do all of them have specific requirements for radio and bootloader and recovery and so on, or is the setup I have ok for flashing anything, that is suited for the G1?
EDIT: One more thing I just remembered. The Superwipe, as I read the description, was supposed to wipe everything + the SD card as well. First of all I noticed that it took just about a second or two, which I thought was a bit too quick, but the SD card was not wiped at all, so I'm thinking, that theoretically there could be a file on there, that causes the problems, that have transfered from Rom to Rom, as it was not wiped at all. I'll reformat the SD card, superwipe it, reflash the Rom and see what will happen. Will post the results first thing tomorrow.
It only wipes ext partition not fat32
Only newer ROMs will require a different bootloader/radio, which also will give you more ram so it is preferred. See ezterrys post on the 2708+ update or read the through the thread below this on where I discussed the benefits of upgrading with another dream user
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Right, so from what I see from the other thread of yours, CM5 should be a good Rom to try. I will definitely wanna go there, cause while the current Rom seems a bit better than the Super D, it seems it uses up more memory - can't install as many apps as before and I'm keeping it pretty low on apps. And I definitely want to see, whether it will improve any of the lingering problems I've been having, or whether it'll be worse. So judging by what you told the other guy, I already have the right bootloader as I have the 2005 with fastboot enabled, but I'll have to update the radio. Here's what I'm not sure and that is, which to choose. Should I stay with the current SPL and get the same radio the other guy had (RADIO-2.22.19.26i) or should I go straight for the 13d SPL with radio-2.22.27.08? I would say, for now would be safer to stay with current SPL, update the radio and then flash Rom + Gapps and see what it does. Plus if I remember right, you said that to get the ramhack I need the 13d spl, which doesn't support fastboot...
You got it all, well you don't need to change radios, the one he has is a Europe version, yours is more us. Both work fine for cupcake, donut and eclair ROMs. You can try out the other if you were getting poor reception but not needed
Cm5 will work fine for you as of now, just full make a backup, wipe, superwipe, fastboot -w whatever, then flash ROM, then gapps then reboot
The ram hack is awesome but so is learning fastboot. I do recommend you at some point upgrade to the .13d SPL but I think its a good idea to flash a few things first and be comfortable before doing so. If you have issues having fastboot is helpful in fixing things
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Ok. So what I did is partition the SD card using the nice "Mini tool partition wizard" and went for a 250 MB ext4, made a backup, left the radio be so far, wiped, flashed the CM5 and Gapps and I have to say I'm impressed at how swift the Rom works. It appears to be generally faster than both the SuperD and Laszlo Donut Roms. I have been testing it only a short while yet, but the wifi, although it shows constantly weak signal (one or two lines), it hadn't lost connection yet, which gives me hope and the apps2ext seems to work perfectly right away. At least I'm able to move them around and it installs straight there, without any failure so far and the apps work so thumbs up.
This deserves a big thanks to you for the supplied info. Before I wrote this thread, I was about to try one of the long guides - which would take me through downgrading and everything - you saved me a lot of stress man I'll play around with this and will try going for the ram hack a bit later. I'll let you know any bugs I notice...
P.S.: You were right to suggest getting familiar with fastboot and adb - it's a great thing and it's good to know I've got it set up and running fine.
Hello guys,
Firstly, I would like to point out that I'm very much a newbie in terms of customizing phones (rooting,recovery,flashing ROMs etc). However, after much research, I decided to flash a ROM on my S3 Mini i8190n. The ROM I used was CM11 4.4.4 Kitkat. I pretty much followed the flashing process down to a tee, but I've encountered a significant problem. My phone starts up and then the animation comes on, furthermore, nothing happens after this, it's just a continuous animation. The animation is new to me, so I'm guessing the ROM partly flashed ok, but I don't understand why my phone sticks at this point. I'd like to point out that I have tried wiping data/dalvik and factory reset to no avail.
If you guys could assist me with this problem, I would greatly appreciate it.
Many thanks,
Pinda
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Hello guys,
I'm surprised I haven't received any responses from the experts on this site, but I understand sometimes threads go unnoticed.
Just an update, after a stressful week trying to fix my phone, I finally managed to restore it back to the stock ROM. I still don't know what cause the start-up animation to stick and constantly loop, it's a mystery to me. However, I finally managed to flash the stock ROM via Odin after downloading the official firmware from Samsmobile. It was such a relief seeing the green 'PASS' sign and seeing my precious S3 mini boot up, it was blissful seeing something other than the boot-up animation on repeat. The whole ordeal has made me realise that flashing custom ROMs etc just isn't worth it, especially if the handset you own is pretty decent anyway.
Just a quick question for you folks, a lot of forums mentioned flashing a pit file with the firmware on Odin and that's what I did to successfully restore my phone. However, I am still quite unsure what the pit file did, can anyone shed some light on this..
Good afternoon
I would just like to say that my phone is still running smoothly, so I think the official stock firmware is running ok without problems. However, I've noticed that my phone still has CWM recovery installed despite flashing the original firmware for my variant, is this normal? Seems strange to not have root and still have CWM on my handset....