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Hi everyone. My battery life is really sucks. I bought my item two days ago. It is new. And I upgrade my version and baseband , kernel and build version like below :
N70000XXLB2
2.6.35.7-N7000XXLC1-CL1003701 [email protected]#2
GINGERBREAD.XXLC1
I think that this version xxlc1 is last version but I wonder how is my kernel version ?
Battery life is very bad.
Moreover Charging lasts so long. 3 -4 hours sometimes.
PLEASE Help me! please
depends in the usage, rom, kernel, settings etc you are using.
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depends in the usage, rom, kernel, settings etc you are using.
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when i see some kind of usage experiences, I am so jealous. How they use this much ? HOW. I only use wifi and radio.
Hi,
What is your battery life on the Note? Does it last a day even two?. If it does, then that is pretty much normal. You whine on a phone that you just use for only 2 days? Stop whining and complaining. You havent have had utilize the full charge and recharge cycles of your battery and now your whining already.. Man, give your Note a week or two and your battery life will be okay.
Hmm.. Is this the first time you use an android device? What phone where you using.before? If you we're using a non android device e.g. Symbian or etc. Then my reaction to your complains (of your Note) is justifiable. Symbian for the fact has always been known to be very good or decent in terms of battery life.
Now android OS, is known throughout (irregardless what smartphone/tablet you have) to have the AOS bug. It is a bug where there's some sort of a battery leak and hencefort most android users tend to root their phones so that they can stop background stock applications from running in the background. The births of custom ROMS and Kernels have given some tremendous wonders also especially on phone's UI and more so on battery management.
Again. Stop complaining and go down root your phone and install battery saving apps or custom ROMs. It's all over the thread anyway.
The sooner you customise your phone to your heart's content, the better you can appreciate it's full potentials.
Cheers!!!
Sent from my GT-N7000 using xda premium
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Hi,
What is your battery life on the Note? Does it last a day even two?. If it does, then that is pretty much normal. You whine on a phone that you just use for only 2 days? Stop whining and complaining. You havent have had utilize the full charge and recharge cycles of your battery and now your whining already.. Man, give your Note a week or two and your battery life will be okay.
Hmm.. Is this the first time you use an android device? What phone where you using.before? If you we're using a non android device e.g. Symbian or etc. Then my reaction to your complains (of your Note) is justifiable. Symbian for the fact has always been known to be very good or decent in terms of battery life.
Now android OS, is known throughout (irregardless what smartphone/tablet you have) to have the AOS bug. It is a bug where there's some sort of a battery leak and hencefort most android users tend to root their phones so that they can stop background stock applications from running in the background. The births of custom ROMS and Kernels have given some tremendous wonders also especially on phone's UI and more so on battery management.
Again. Stop complaining and go down root your phone and install battery saving apps or custom ROMs. It's all over the thread anyway.
The sooner you customise your phone to your heart's content, the better you can appreciate it's full potentials.
Cheers!!!
Sent from my GT-N7000 using xda premium
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My battery life is 5 - 6 hours. I am accept 12 hours. I wish it last 12 hours. Before I used Iphone4, it is not so long for battery life , however it is acceptable. I did not understand how notes's battery life so short.
Moreover I can not use custom rom. because they r not good as well as stock rom. ALl of them have some problems. But I can change my kernel.
to get battery life you either
a) dont use your phone or
b) get information to use your phone more wisely
So..
a) download a battery monitor.. there are a bunch recommended..
b) read the other 200 threads on battery life and dont start another one. Each and every question has been asked and answered ad nauseum
while you are figuring out root, and task killers, here are a few easy tips to help..particularly when you are putting the phone down for a while
apps>task manager>active apps> CLOSE ALL
apps>task manager> RAM> CLEAR MEMORY
settings>applications>running services> review and shut down apps/games that may be running in background (and that are not critical)
Again.... RESEARCH the forum.. the answers are already here. and you should read and post in existing threads
eediz said:
My battery life is 5 - 6 hours. I am accept 12 hours. I wish it last 12 hours. Before I used Iphone4, it is not so long for battery life , however it is acceptable. I did not understand how notes's battery life so short.
Moreover I can not use custom rom. because they r not good as well as stock rom. ALl of them have some problems. But I can change my kernel.
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You could also have a defective battery.
On my iPhone 4, my first of 4 that were faulty, battery life depleted in less than 12 hours of STANDBY only on wifi, nothing syncing. Only being on. Battery life was so bad.
It's not uncommon to get a dud battery sometimes.
Try doing a complete restore, stock EVERYTHING, don't push anything (except email, cal, and contacts, you know, the basics) and see if you're having the same results. If on a fresh, stock, install you're having the same issues, then you've got a defective unit and/or battery.
Hope I've helped.
eediz said:
My battery life is 5 - 6 hours. I am accept 12 hours. I wish it last 12 hours. Before I used Iphone4, it is not so long for battery life , however it is acceptable. I did not understand how notes's battery life so short.
Moreover I can not use custom rom. because they r not good as well as stock rom. ALl of them have some problems. But I can change my kernel.
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There are quite decent custom roms for the Note. I have tried many gingerbread versions (Chracks, rocketrom, cassies etc) currently on chrack's v18 small (LC1) with speedmod latest kernel.
I have not faced performance issues on this. But each user is different so u r the boss.
Best give the custom kernels a try for now. If u find the battery life better then ur problem is solved. The advantage of custom rom is that so much useless bloatware in the stock is removed for better space mgt & performance.
have provided some tips in the following link, feel free to go thru.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1600691
eediz said:
Moreover I can not use custom rom. because they r not good as well as stock rom. ALl of them have some problems. But I can change my kernel.
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dude, you are ridiculing some of the well known devs who have made custom ROMS for all to appreciate and use. IF there was and is a problem on a particular custom ROM, it is or might be cause indirectly on the user itself, on what apps he/she insatalled on his phone. Surely you cannot generalize all custom ROMS have problems do you? if all have problems, the devs have some new revisions to fix those bugs and in no time at all your Note would be in tip-top shape again.
If as what you say, Custom Roms have problems.... then why the heck most people I know have used them and have big wide grin on their face to show off what they have and even posting a copy of their latest ROM pictures here... not to mentioned in YouTube as well.
ok. Which rom is the best stable than ? Which I should use ?
go read the threads on battery performance.. loading a new ROM will not fix problems if you do not know what you are doing.
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ok. Which rom is the best stable than ? Which I should use ?
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Hi there.
I had the same issues but only after the update done on ICS.
I have over 140 different application and nearly all of them have been purchased.
What happens is that, when you are not using your phone it should go to "deep sleep". This allows your phone not to run any application and merely use any battery. Your problem probably come from somewhere in your setting an automatic update. That drains a lot....
I downloaded different application hoping that it would work out such as Juice Defender, watch dog and many others. After lots of research, I found out that it is not good for your phone to have an auto killer app or even an application that modifies the functions of other applications.
So I downloaded battery spy and cpu spy on "google play" and followed the instructions.
I needed a deeper analytic application "Kernel" and this was THE application that allowed my phone to go from 6-8 hour to 28 hours.
"Better battery stats", it's not free but was really worth the spending.
Google play chronological download
1) watch dog
2) battery spy
3) cpu spy
4) better battery stats
Good luck
I keep switching my cellphone off while not using, and same goes for wifi. Using it as a secondary phone as well. It lasts only 4-6 hours.. :S I keep closing background apps, and kill app once im done with it..
Also be aware that in areas with bad network strenght, the GNote really suffers.
I normally have no complains (0,6-1,5% battery usage per hour) but where I am now, the GNote really works hard to keep the connection and my consumption easily goes to 4-6% in deep sleep and 15-20% when using it...
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ok. Which rom is the best stable than ? Which I should use ?
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If you like stock samsung looks try CleaNote 3.10 , very good n battery life , I get around one day backup with heavy usage and 2 days plus with moderate usage .
If like pure google , then try cm9 , very stable and quite good on battery back up .
And if you dont use 3g or 3.5 g or any such networks then select GSM only or use 2g networks only ( Settings -> under wireless and connectivity , More -> Mobile Networks )
Also keep your display brightness to minimum , control the brightness manually instead of auto brightness .
Turn off auto sync ( big advantage over battery ) .
Scan for running apps and cached apps and force stop the ones which you dont use .
Use titanium back up and freeze some of the bloatwares ( stock samsung apps ) or uninstall them , like readers hub , mydiary , they are **** .
And dont use task killers , they drain your battery . they may clear rom but some apps restart automatically and that needs more juice than running those apps . Hope all these suggestions help . From my experience with this phone
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Also be aware that in areas with bad network strenght, the GNote really suffers.
I normally have no complains (0,6-1,5% battery usage per hour) but where I am now, the GNote really works hard to keep the connection and my consumption easily goes to 4-6% in deep sleep and 15-20% when using it...
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I didnt know that, My signal is usually 10-40%. I have bad signal strenght at home.
my battery decreases 1% in around 5 minutes of use or something. Today it lasted me 10% on standby for around 8-10hours.
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I didnt know that, My signal is usually 10-40%. I have bad signal strenght at home.
my battery decreases 1% in around 5 minutes of use or something. Today it lasted me 10% on standby for around 8-10hours.
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You need to purchase and install "better battery stats" and also install cpu spy (I'm assuming you're rooted) and use them to monitor your phone and battery in order to solve your issue. Google both and you'll find several good threads on xda about using and interpreting these apps, but if you get stuck post some screen shots from both and someone here can almost certainly help. There are a number of potential sources of such problems, generally rogue apps, and also a bug or two, but it is impossible to offer help without the details these apps would provide.
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You need to purchase and install "better battery stats" and also install cpu spy (I'm assuming you're rooted) and use them to monitor your phone and battery in order to solve your issue. Google both and you'll find several good threads on xda about using and interpreting these apps, but if you get stuck post some screen shots from both and someone here can almost certainly help. There are a number of potential sources of such problems, generally rogue apps, and also a bug or two, but it is impossible to offer help without the details these apps would provide.
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Thanks for that, i will install it. By the way i got the "battery widget" installed, which has gained popularity on the market.
Also im only using 9% of brightness of my phone.
I'm using a rooted stock 4.0.3 and I'm finding battery life its pretty good - better than unrooted GB was in fact. Simply freezing bloatware via titanium and limiting sync on some (not all) apps and services makes a gigantic difference. Design your phone around your own needs and you'll end up with an amazing device that you'll fall in love with all over again.
Sent from my gnote as always
Hey everyone.
I just got my 4x HD and i was wondering why i always have around 70% ram used on idle.
I checked in task manager and there was for around 200mb of services and apps running max, can't find where the other 400mb went.
Anyone knows if this is normal? How much ram does your phone use on average?
I agree with 700mb ram already used. But doesnt lag the phone though.
AW: Ram usage
its better when more ram is used. all the apps u used are stored in ram for quicker app start when run the app again. in other words: phone is faster when more ram is used. only if u hit the 1gb limit the phone would lag
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its better when more ram is used. all the apps u used are stored in ram for quicker app start when run the app again. in other words: phone is faster when more ram is used. only if u hit the 1gb limit the phone would lag
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thats true, but i too have ram problem in my o4x,
it starts lagging and freezing after some time if memory is not cleared by any task manager. and at extreme it restarts the phone.
i haven't installed that much apps yet, i installed more apps in my HTC Explorer and that phone never did things like this but this phone has double ram and still doing strange things.
and i installed swapper to solve the problem but now i'm stuck on boot logo, any help appreciated.
and any help on my bricked phone is also appreciated at my post here, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2192894
still, my phone uses 800Megs of RAM and constant lag.
fyi every time someone complains that their Android phone is using a lot of RAM an angel loses its wings.
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fyi every time someone complains that their Android phone is using a lot of RAM an angel loses its wings.
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but.. but.. but how will the games work smooth if there's only 100megs ram free?
I understand that system/UI works faster when everything is loaded in ram... but i don't like apps in background sucking my battery. I've seen this clearly in Battery Monitor. When ram is clear it uses about 25mW (on idle), with stuff in background it's closer to 100mW or more... I don't like my phone eating battery 4 times faster on idle that it should.
_MiseryMachine_ said:
but.. but.. but how will the games work smooth if there's only 100megs ram free?
I understand that system/UI works faster when everything is loaded in ram... but i don't like apps in background sucking my battery. I've seen this clearly in Battery Monitor. When ram is clear it uses about 25mW (on idle), with stuff in background it's closer to 100mW or more... I don't like my phone eating battery 4 times faster on idle that it should.
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Again, this isn't Windows, it's Android. Free RAM is wasted RAM. If it has only 100Mb free and you launch a heavy game, it'll promptly free the needed RAM by offloading the least used stuff it still has on RAM.
On the other hand, if you call that program you only use once a day, it's probably still in your RAM, and will open as if you've only just used it (well, almost).
The used RAM isn't necessarily active, so not all the apps stored there are sucking battery. Your test results are accurate, but your conclusions are fallacious: yes, there's less battery usage when the RAM is clearest, but, as they say, "you've thrown out the baby with the bathwater", i.e. when unloading ALL apps, you also unloaded the ones that were consuming battery. On the other hand, you've also thrown out stuff that were just kept in memory, but weren't active.
The other problem with your approach is that, after you unload ALL apps, the most troublesome ones will probably reload themselves back into RAM. So, even if right after freeing RAM you reduce your battery usage, a few minutes later it will be back to the same.
What you should do is get a program like BetterBateryStats and find out what's actually sucking your battery. When it does, you have a few alternatives:
- uninstall apps that are sucking your battery but you just don't need;
- greenify some of the apps that you do need, just not all the time;
- freeze some apps (with Titanium Backup) that you don't use but can't uninstall.
i tend to disagree with people saying free ram is wasted ram and preloading apps in ram is good and that for this simple reason.
everytime you start a app that is not preloaded (it can only preload so many apps) it has to use cpu time to unload it then load the next app resulting in extra cpu usage = less battery time.
many people complain about battery life except me.
and i really manage my phones resources all day long and have nsane results noone else seems to get.
i have over 5 hours 30 min screen on time (me browsing watching youtube using whatsapp and so on.) and have over 630 mb ram free.
my total stanby time on lght use is 5 days with 2 hours 30 min screen on time.
i would send screenshots as proof but for some reason the lg 4x hd bluetooth wont install on windows 7 x64.
but really since i starte to actively manage my phone the battery lasts longer and i never had a stutter or anything.
and as a sidenote my phone is stil unrooted and stock v10h so with root i could prevent even mre from starting up and have even more free ram and better results.
and yes the poster above me is right some apps will reload themselves so IF you use a task killed prevent it from killing tasks that start themselves up again.
like google partner setup , media and more google stuff.
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i tend to disagree with people saying free ram is wasted ram and preloading apps in ram is good and that for this simple reason.
everytime you start a app that is not preloaded (it can only preload so many apps) it has to use cpu time to unload it then load the next app resulting in extra cpu usage = less battery time.
many people complain about battery life except me.
and i really manage my phones resources all day long and have nsane results noone else seems to get.
i have over 5 hours 30 min screen on time (me browsing watching youtube using whatsapp and so on.) and have over 630 mb ram free.
my total stanby time on lght use is 5 days with 2 hours 30 min screen on time.
i would send screenshots as proof but for some reason the lg 4x hd bluetooth wont install on windows 7 x64.
but really since i starte to actively manage my phone the battery lasts longer and i never had a stutter or anything.
and as a sidenote my phone is stil unrooted and stock v10h so with root i could prevent even mre from starting up and have even more free ram and better results.
and yes the poster above me is right some apps will reload themselves so IF you use a task killed prevent it from killing tasks that start themselves up again.
like google partner setup , media and more google stuff.
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I had that problem when I installed the first leaked V20A, now with the official V20A EUR_XXX bluetooth is working fine, faster tranfears than with ICS.
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I have problems, too. My o4x is working about 2.5 years but im very angry because of the ram usage problem. The ram is always %70-80. And the phone is very very very... slow. If the cpu is works %80, what can i do ? The battery is finishing very early. I dont wanna new phone. Im not rich. I dont want to buy a new iPhone. Everyone say "The iPhone (ios) is the best. Android is the worst. Bla bla bla.. " And I believe this... PLEASE HELP ME (( :crying:
I've got a 2 year old I9305 from the UK that's rooted and using the German 4.3 Stock ROM (couldn't update to 4.3 with a UK ROM at the time).
The battery life used to be much better - I've had it for a year (I bought it as not working from a family member and then got it running) and would easily get over a days use including hooked up to the wifi most of the day, 2-3 hours with the screen on etc but now I find I'm often getting less than a day with similar use. I've since done a factory reset and re-installed my apps but it's not improved anything noticeably.
I rotate through 4 Anker 2200mAh a genuine Samsung and a Samsung battery bought on Amazon (genuine - not sure about that!) using a wall mounted charger to do most of the charging as I spent the last 8 months traveling and didn't want my phone sat around in dorm rooms plugged into the mains while I wasn't in the room.
If I only had the one battery then it would make sense that it's ability to hold a full 2100mAh charge would drop after a year but with 5-6 batteries taking the strain, I'd assume that this would be less likely. I was looking at apps like Nova battery tester and An tu tu Tester and will give them a go tonight on which ever battery is in the phone - are they any good?
If the batteries are still taking a solid charge then I guess it's time to go back down the route of a custom ROM but as I travel a lot, I'm loathe to mess around with my S3 too much. I had an HTC HD2 that was running CWM and a couple of different ROM's and it died on me a couple of times while I was on the road. That was less of an issue than it will be now as I was traveling with a netbook - the S3 is my only device now so I need to to be stable. I'm not averse to going through the process of putting a ROM on the phone if there are a couple that are known to be super stable and lighter than stock on battery life, but if I can stick with my stock set up with some tweaks...I've got All in one toolbox controlling which apps load on boot, greenify to hibernate apps (instead of a task killer knocking them off) and No Bloat stopping the bloatware from running.
Any suggestions would be most welcome.
Hmm.. As you are using greenify, boot apps control and no bloat, you are extremely in control of your rom - that's good.
I think that there would be negligible to none difference in battery life between your rom and any custom. Stock Touchwizz roms are said to have better battery (from my own experience too), therefore installing any custom aosp rom should be rejected.
What I can suggest? Download some recent full rom from sammobile or live updates samsung (search google) and flash it through odin. Or maybe you have tried it?
However running one rom for few months may have some influence on battery too.
Also, installing custom kernel is the thing that may help you optimize battery/performance with few interesting features. Boeffla has great description and faq on the website and user-friendly config app. But that's only if you want to experiment (it is still rock-stable) a little bit.
Try custom
The 4.3 JB upgrade is well known as a battery killer. I had stock 4.3 from Base (Germany), but the 4.3 from H3G (UK) is the same for battery life. I have used CM 11.0 as well as others, almost all are nicer to batteries than stock.
Currently I use the S5 Elite Lite Rom. The current version 1.4 seems to be very stable even with both cpu and gpu overclocked. Battery life is still a little better than stock 4.3 and that is despite not using the deep sleep feature. CM 11.0 is even better for battery, at least for me probably down to there being none of the Stock bloatware. Hope that helps.
The best rom to stock rom good battery usage
custom rom is quickly depleted
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Hbohd said:
Hmm.. As you are using greenify, boot apps control and no bloat, you are extremely in control of your rom - that's good.
I think that there would be negligible to none difference in battery life between your rom and any custom. Stock Touchwizz roms are said to have better battery (from my own experience too), therefore installing any custom aosp rom should be rejected.
What I can suggest? Download some recent full rom from sammobile or live updates samsung (search google) and flash it through odin. Or maybe you have tried it?
However running one rom for few months may have some influence on battery too.
Also, installing custom kernel is the thing that may help you optimize battery/performance with few interesting features. Boeffla has great description and faq on the website and user-friendly config app. But that's only if you want to experiment (it is still rock-stable) a little bit.
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The current ROM was one from a year ago when I first set up the phone but I've since done a factory reset and reinstalled all my apps.
I didn't realize that I could run a custom kernel with a stock ROM - that's something I'll look into. I don't have a custom recovery set up as the last time I used one on my HD2 I had nothing but trouble and, as I said, I need this set up to be reliable over pretty much everything else.
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The 4.3 JB upgrade is well known as a battery killer. I had stock 4.3 from Base (Germany), but the 4.3 from H3G (UK) is the same for battery life. I have used CM 11.0 as well as others, almost all are nicer to batteries than stock.
Currently I use the S5 Elite Lite Rom. The current version 1.4 seems to be very stable even with both cpu and gpu overclocked. Battery life is still a little better than stock 4.3 and that is despite not using the deep sleep feature. CM 11.0 is even better for battery, at least for me probably down to there being none of the Stock bloatware. Hope that helps.
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How long have you been running S5 Elite ROM? I think I'd probably stick with CM, though I'm intrigued by some of the other stuff out there, but ideally I'd like to stick with a solid, stock rom without a custom recovery.
SYMLY, I don't really understand what you meant in your post.
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How long have you been running S5 Elite ROM? I think I'd probably stick with CM, though I'm intrigued by some of the other stuff out there, but ideally I'd like to stick with a solid, stock rom without a custom recovery.
SYMLY, I don't really understand what you meant in your post.
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I have been running the S5 Elite ROM for a couple of weeks only. In that time I have found it very stable, by stable I mean no random reboots, and no force closes. It is not completely glitch free for example some apps need to have the sd card unmounted before being installed. I run it overclocked at 1.8Ghz and slight over clocking on the GPU too. Antutu score was around 20800. The S5 Elite ROM gives me a stock look including the S apps I want specifically SPlanner and SVoice.
If you really want to have a completely stock rom with good battery life you might need to consider downgrading to a 4.1.2 rom from Samfirmware or waiting for the fabled 4.4.2 upgrade. I've been waiting on that for months and finally gave up, hence I'm now using the S5 Elite.
Best of luck deciding, I guess there is no one size fits all solution.
Roms that may help with the batteries.
So far i've seen that stock roms usually consume less battery than stock firmware . something that may help you is deleting apps that you know you'll never use at all. that removes the autorun consuming less battery. Now. among the best but remains on 4.3, is the Alliancerom v3.5. i've seen that my battery drained less faster than on stock firmware. but also due to its kernel it can be controlled the amount of mhz using for process (if you don't know how to use it, do not touch it) . and also the charging rate can be controlled.
If you want a touchwiz based rom, i recommend AllianceROM V3.5 or AMCHA rom v6.11. Both roms are super stable, Alliance lags quite a bit though. Ive been using AMCHA (with S5 theme and agni kernel from aroma installer) rom for awhile, so far so problems and pretty good battery life
You can also try archidroid and neat ROM they are one of the best touchwiz 4.3 roms
To be honest, I'm thinking that I'd rather go down the route of checking over my batteries and trying out any other utilities that might aid in reducing the battery use of my S3.
If I were to go down the custom ROM route then I'd be more interested in the kernels as it's been pointed out that they're going to have more impact on power consumption.
So, any suggestions for utilities - as I've said I'm running all in one toolbox, no bloat and greenify. What about apps to check the actual capacity of the battery?
Well. That been said. Then my suggestion is that you delete apps you dont use at all. Actually that also works in alliancerom 3.5 or any rom or stock firmware. It is obvious that if you delete apps that have autorun enabeled by default when you restart or turn on it affects the ram and also affects the battery draining. My alliancerom 3.5 battery last even more than the original firmware. I've deleted plenty of apps i didnt need at all. More like junk to me. Of course. All of this you can do only if you are rooted. Also another suggestion. Ebay sells i9305 extended battery. It comes with the double, Triple and even more amount of mah for pretty good prices. With them i can assure you that you will use your smartphone with the highest performance without been worried of low battery until night.
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If I were to go down the custom ROM route then I'd be more interested in the kernels as it's been pointed out that they're going to have more impact on power consumption.
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No... nono ononono.
Stock kernel will have similar battery performance as agni or boeffla (on same settings). Sure, custom can bring a enhancment or two, but the battery improvements would be minimal.
A custom kernel will only improve a stock kernel battery performance if the stock kernel is ****ty to begin with. Not the case with TW 4.3
It's the rom, and it's apps and your apps.
How about installing Better Battery Stats and posting a few screenshots?
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No... nono ononono.
Stock kernel will have similar battery performance as agni or boeffla (on same settings). Sure, custom can bring a enhancment or two, but the battery improvements would be minimal.
A custom kernel will only improve a stock kernel battery performance if the stock kernel is ****ty to begin with. Not the case with TW 4.3
It's the rom, and it's apps and your apps.
How about installing Better Battery Stats and posting a few screenshots?
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Cheers for that. I'm aware of the obvious basic stuff affecting battery use like cutting down the number of running apps (hence why I use all in one, no bloat etc) but no little about kernels or their battery related benefits.
That app sounds good, I'll stick it on today and then happily post a few screenshots for you to look through. I've just had a look and it's a paid app - bearing mind I'm only needing the use of this once or twice are there any similar free ones.
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Cheers for that. I'm aware of the obvious basic stuff affecting battery use like cutting down the number of running apps (hence why I use all in one, no bloat etc) but no little about kernels or their battery related benefits.
That app sounds good, I'll stick it on today and then happily post a few screenshots for you to look through. I've just had a look and it's a paid app - bearing mind I'm only needing the use of this once or twice are there any similar free ones.
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If you have zillion apps (like me), then they tend to update frequently, use more and more resources, and services.
I was astonished to see that some apps that i installed just in case - like ebay, skype, tripadvisor - and never used yet, - were running services and have put themselves into autostart!
if you are rooted and use autostarts utility, you can disable a lot of junk in the on start and after start events.
you will immediately see the difference in boot time.
i also deinstalled the apps mentioned above, and battery usage back to normal.
lisbon2004 said:
If you have zillion apps (like me), then they tend to update frequently, use more and more resources, and services.
I was astonished to see that some apps that i installed just in case - like ebay, skype, tripadvisor - and never used yet, - were running services and have put themselves into autostart!
if you are rooted and use autostarts utility, you can disable a lot of junk in the on start and after start events.
you will immediately see the difference in boot time.
i also deinstalled the apps mentioned above, and battery usage back to normal.
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Ok, for those new to these things I'll give you a brief run down of the 3 apps I keep mentioning to save people posting suggestions for things that they already do....
Nobloat (root) - delete (including permanently) any apps including system apps (get rid of the pre-installed bloatware.
All in one toolbox pro (there's a free version) - I use this to clean up my autostarts - I can determine which apps will load on boot - both user apps and system apps.
Greenify - hibernates apps rather than killing them so they don't then autostart. There's also a way to have apps brought out of hibernation if their push notifications come through.
All in all, 3 very useful apps.
Feel free to mention any other ones to help things run a little smoother.
woldranger said:
Ok, for those new to these things I'll give you a brief run down of the 3 apps I keep mentioning to save people posting suggestions for things that they already do....
Nobloat (root) - delete (including permanently) any apps including system apps (get rid of the pre-installed bloatware.
All in one toolbox pro (there's a free version) - I use this to clean up my autostarts - I can determine which apps will load on boot - both user apps and system apps.
Greenify - hibernates apps rather than killing them so they don't then autostart. There's also a way to have apps brought out of hibernation if their push notifications come through.
All in all, 3 very useful apps.
Feel free to mention any other ones to help things run a little smoother.
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Do what i did, i bought a 6000mah mbuynow battery off ebay which seems to be around 4000mah true. It lasts about 90% more than the stock battery. im still not impressed with the battery life as phones these days can achieve the 8 hours of screen on time that i get with my extended battery with there stock batterys. i9300 has better battery life for some reason even though my i9305 is undervolt and underclock
jazk said:
Do what i did, i bought a 6000mah mbuynow battery off ebay which seems to be around 4000mah true. It lasts about 90% more than the stock battery. im still not impressed with the battery life as phones these days can achieve the 8 hours of screen on time that i get with my extended battery with there stock batterys. i9300 has better battery life for some reason even though my i9305 is undervolt and underclock
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That sugestion is completly wrong. A 6000mAh battery is huge and adds a lot of weight and bulkiness to the phone.
Exactly! it's perfectly viable to live with a standard battery on our device, if you use a right rom and de-bloat.
Say no to bulk! ))
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Hello to all,
I have two problems that are almost making me go back to stock 4.3 ROM
The first is related to the battery, the android system appears first with 25% + battery drain, and in most cases equal to or greater than the battery consumption of the screen! This makes my battery does not pass a day, and the stock I went much further (without STAMINA MODE).
The second issue is regarding the performance measured by AnTuTu. I know that does not mean much, but in the STOCK I get 25.5k and I read out there that people also manages the same in CM11 LBL (the MrSteve555 and also bagyusz), I do not understand why I can here the maximum 22.5K .
Independent of ROM I have put the same results. Tested in all versions of MrSteve555 and in the last two of bagyusz. Also tested in the PAC-man RC-1 neXus PRIME, same result and battery consumption.
In all ROMs I wipe system, data, cache, dalvik cache.
Does anyone have any idea how to solve this? I am discouraged because I love the CM11.
Ps: I use .207 kernel and I've tried with .205 also, same result. (I have LBL)
Damn what is that screenshot supposed to show?? 30 minutes off charge and it is at 99%!!! It's obvious that the screen consumption will be minimum, it was on for a minute or so probably... I know that usually android system drain is higher in cm than stock but you should compare your battery stats at the end of the day...
Please reset the counter by tapping on the trash icon on the activity bar. Then please post a screenshot after hours of usage. This will enable other people to properly interpret your battery stats.
Some tips though, you will most likely encounter a slight battery drain while using custom ROMs. This is due to the fact that stock ROM and custom ROM works differently. You might actually having a normal drain than a supposedly "bad" one.
By the end of the day will be the same... Anyway I will post later.
I attached new images for better understanding.
Does anyone have any idea?
Firstly, Antutu scores mean sh*t...
In the past I've had allot of ROMs with very bad Antutu scores which performed much better in terms of speed and general user experience than a standard ROM with higher Antutu score.
Furthermore, install better battery stats or any other wakelock detector app to see what is draining your battery. The pictures you are showing us now don't help at all.
I've exactly the same problem, android consumes always more than 25% battery too...
Silver Wx said:
I've exactly the same problem, android consumes always more than 25% battery too...
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As I mentioned above, you need to identify what is causing the wakelocks first. Untill then there's absolutely no solution that can be presented to both of you.
By pointed by Gamm86, it might be due to wakelocks. Once the wakelocks are found, you may use Greenify to hibernate that rogue app. When the app is selected within Greenify, you will find it easier to see the wakeup path and cut it off through Greenify.
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By pointed by Gamm86, it might be due to wakelocks. Once the wakelocks are found, you may use Greenify to hibernate that rogue app. When the app is selected within Greenify, you will find it easier to see the wakeup path and cut it off through Greenify.
Wakelock Detector
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It's not always apps themselves that cause wakelocks.
Background services related to phone or app settings are usually the culprits, meaning greenify won't resolve all wakelocks.
Gamm86 said:
It's not always apps themselves that cause wakelocks.
Services related to phone or app settings are usually the culprits, meaning greenify won't resolve all wakelocks.
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yes I understand. Hmm i believe you are more experienced in this matter. Would you tell me how to stop those wakelocks that caused from other services? I would really appreciate that, cause I find many people solve this problem but they never did expose where they learn from or the methods they use. and yea, I've googled but I got nothing
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yes I understand. Hmm i believe you are more experienced in this matter. Would you tell me how to stop those wakelocks that caused from other services? I would really appreciate that, cause I find many people solve this problem but they never did expose where they learn from or the methods they use. and yea, I've googled but I got nothing
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Use Disable service app. Check which wakelock is occurring and disable that service.
Or get the donate version of unbounce and delay the wakelocks like every hour or so.
I already use Greenify and hibernate all apps that are not chat, not solved.
I also noticed that while I sleep and the phone remains idle the android system does not consume a lot of battery, something around 6%, but when you turn on the screen and the phone is active it starts to drain. So the problem is not in the wakelock, but elsewhere.
I'm using the applications suggested to post new screenshots later.
I used the apps for a day and I'm posting the screenshots of the result ... the system keeps draining and I don't see any information that would help me on the images.
Anyone have any ideas?
Jeanborba said:
Hello to all,
The second issue is regarding the performance measured by AnTuTu. I know that does not mean much, but in the STOCK I get 25.5k and I read out there that people also manages the same in CM11 LBL (the MrSteve555 and also bagyusz), I do not understand why I can here the maximum 22.5K .
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I'm on MrSteve555's CM for LBL and was also wondering why I was getting a much lower AnTuTu score than stock. Then I discovered that I get 22.5K scores WHEN CHARGING and 25.5K scores running off the battery!
Jeanborba said:
I used the apps for a day and I'm posting the screenshots of the result ... the system keeps draining and I don't see any information that would help me on the images.
Anyone have any ideas?
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I have noticed the same issues on all 4.4.x based roms (slimkat, pac, PA etc.). The only fix i found was to disable the automatic screen brightness. After disabling it the system_server service became normal and Android System dropped to 9-8% of overall battery consumption.
Good luck
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I have noticed the same issues on all 4.4.x based roms (slimkat, pac, PA etc.). The only fix i found was to disable the automatic screen brightness. After disabling it the system_server service became normal and Android System dropped to 9-8% of overall battery consumption.
Good luck
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I've exactly the same problem of you : thanks very much for find!
My phone never enters deep sleep when i lock it with WiFi on, this happens on cm11 by steve it drains a lot overnight
4.00 - 4.30 hours on screen = 2 days with playing fifa 15 and facebook + viber. 1-2 photos, 60 mins browsing and about 30 mins talk good for me without using battery safe apps - lock my bl and using .207's kernel on mr.steve555's Weeklies CM11 lbl
try CM11 Mahdi Rom 4.4.4 with gapps minimal 23mb ,my battery work as well after play music,game and facebook
Hello everyone
I recently bought a used Xperia Z1 (C6903), which came with Lollipop 5.0.2 installed (Build .270). It has a defective screen, which is going to be replaced shortly. I mostly use it with a mouse via USB. Other than that, it is perfectly fine.
On Thursday, I inserted my SIM card on the device and installed the latest build available for this device, which is 14.6.A.1.216 (Lollipop 5.1.1) via Flashtool, making sure I did a factory reset. On Friday, I rooted it using KingRoot (promptly replacing it with SuperSU) and, as I did my research first, installed Wakelock Detector to compare the battery between each Android version. On 5.0.2 battery was pretty good, maybe because the phone didn't have the SIM card inserted, but still used WiFi and had a lot of apps which were left by the previous owner (Such as Facebook and FB Messenger, which both are battery hoggers). Even then, the phone had tremendously good battery, managing to reach 3 days on a full charge (I observed that before buying it). The only problem was that the phone overheated a bit.
Now that I have installed 5.1.1, things got worse. The only good things are that the overheating problem is gone and the performance seems a bit better. However I saw that for many, the battery was way better on 5.1.1 than on 5.0.2. This isn't the case for me. The battery drops approximately 1% each 30 minutes, with the screen off. I don't have mobile data on, as I always use WiFi, so the radio active bug doesn't affect me (right?). I have disabled most, if not all useless apps or things that would keep using the phone's resources. I disabled them, not uninstalled them because the phone has a problem with root permissions, saying that system is not mounted as R/W but still giving apps root access and they can disabled apps just fine. Currently I have none of my apps installed with the exception of Wakelock Detector, thanks to the battery drain and the defective screen which prevent me from doing much. STAMINA mode is on, but I don't notice it working too well, as it doesn't turn WiFi off when the screen is off, even though that option is turned on. I cannot deliver an exact screen on time as don't use the phone that much, but it is average 3-4 hours.
Wakelock Detector tells me that the phone has been awake by 12%, even though there aren't any wakelocks nor apps that would take batery. I would have tried with BetterBatteryStats but it is a bit confusing to use for me. Most people here on this phone's XDA forum complain about the battery in Lollipop, but Kitkat has provided them very good battery life.
Is there any way to fix this? I will provide anything that is asked, such as screenshots of Wakelock Detector, etc.
Should I downgrade to 4.4.4? (Build .157 or whichever you recommend) or perhaps install a custom rom based on 4.4.4, like iHackers? I would test them myself, as it is the best way of telling the difference, but I have a very bad connection and downloading files over 1GB+ takes 5 or 6 hours, only if it doesn't disconnect automatically. The most important things for me are the performance of the phone and the battery life.
Thanks in advance, and sorry for my bad english.
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use mx rom
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Right. I will use it, thanks for the tip. As you have to downgrade to KitKat in order to install custom recoveries and the like, I already did so. And I discovered something new, which wasn't on Lollipop. KitKat's battery stats show that 39% of the phone's battery is used up by the screen, even though I barely use it and it is on the lowest brightness possible. Other than that, another culprit is the mobile signal, which shows a high usage of battery.
EDIT: I have now installed the rom and indeed, the battery problems seem to be gone. Battery isn't dropping as it did, and Wakelock Detector says that the phone is now 1-2% awake
At 1 point, 5.0.2 had a lot of battery problems and performance issues
Are u facing any on MX now ?
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Stock JB 4.4.4 | Root | Deodex | Cam Mods | Dalvik/Bionic
So far, battery has been perfect the phone easily lasts 1 day and still has 40% left. I guess that could be better, but I am satisfied with it
One thing I have noticed is that even though the ROM has much bettery battery management than the stock rom, it feels somehow slower. In developer options, the "Force GPU rendering for 2D" option is enabled. I disabled it and weirdly, the phone seems to be faster and smoother, like it was before. The opposite of this should be happening, as I've read that it instead makes the phone smoother than having it ticked off
bloodofJesus said:
None, especially since the latest firmware was used. try chaning your kernel, I use Advanced Kernel, thought the latest has a chinese/japanese twrp recovery, he might fix that in the next version.
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Hi
I've reflashed the ROM, stock kernel and now it seems perfect.
What does advanced kernel offer in your honest opinion than the stock kernel
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Tapatalked from Sony Xperia Z1
Stock LP 5.1.1 | Root | Deodex | Cam Mods | MX ROM
I normally would test stock, then go ahead testing a custom advanced kernel and compare the findings and differences over a few days of usage.
However, will be using stock for now as it hasn't given me any real problems with performance and battery
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Stock LP 5.1.1 | Root | Deodex | Cam Mods | MX ROM
bloodofJesus said:
use mx rom
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Are you using mx rom? If so could you please upload a screenshot of your battery usage stats?
bloodofJesus said:
I'm not using mx rom anymore, I decided to use a customized stock rom from scratch, sorry.
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Why did you change? I just installed mx rom now! Seems pretty good so far, but still too early to comment on the battery
There's no such issue with this update.
I'm sorry to say this, but things are now where they were before I flashed MX Rom
Three days ago the battery started draining like before, with high usage of the process "Android System", approximately 30%. The screen also has high usage, but really shouldn't as screen on time is barely one hour. I also learned how to properly use BetterBatteryStats, and it reports that the device has 100% no or unknown signal. The phone also is doing weird beep sounds around the camera area. I've factory reset the device, but it didn't do anything. In fact, it is worse now. Battery drain is approximately 3% an hour. And that is with WiFi, Mobile Data and almost everything else off. I also don't have any apps installed. The same happens with Android Kitkat. A lot of apps are also disabled.