A few questions before deciding to buy - Xperia Z3 Compact Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi,
I am trying to decide between Z3c, Galaxy Alpha and Nexus 5.
I have a few questions about the z3c which hopefully some of you will answer.
1. I have read about cracking back glass on the phone but I tend to believe that these incidents are rare and most should be covered by warranty. My concern is another: how slippery is the phone when holding it or using it from the table? Does it move ?
2. do the touch to wake work as expected or does it wake the phone in the pocket ?
3. how are the flaps covering the ports? Do they tend to pop out after using them a while?
4. Do the buttons on the right, make the phone uncomfortable to hold ?
Thanks

alinescoo said:
Hi,
I am trying to decide between Z3c, Galaxy Alpha and Nexus 5.
I have a few questions about the z3c which hopefully some of you will answer.
1. I have read about cracking back glass on the phone but I tend to believe that these incidents are rare and most should be covered by warranty. My concern is another: how slippery is the phone when holding it or using it from the table? Does it move ?
2. do the touch to wake work as expected or does it wake the phone in the pocket ?
3. how are the flaps covering the ports? Do they tend to pop out after using them a while?
4. Do the buttons on the right, make the phone uncomfortable to hold ?
Thanks
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1: I don't find it slippery at all and use it on my bike all the time :good:
2: never used it so no comment
3: the flaps are good, though I would recommend getting a magnetic charging cable or dock to save the USB flaps. The more you use the flaps the more they will degrade.
4: I don't find the buttons to be uncomfortable and the extra camera button is sure worth the minor inconvenience you might find, should you find it annoying at all.
If you have any more questions feel free to ask
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alinescoo said:
1. I have read about cracking back glass on the phone but I tend to believe that these incidents are rare and most should be covered by warranty. My concern is another: how slippery is the phone when holding it or using it from the table? Does it move ?
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The phone is very slippery in my opinion, but only when you put it on a surface (for example on your lap)
When you hold it, it's no problem (So when you have it mounted there is no problem)
alinescoo said:
2. do the touch to wake work as expected or does it wake the phone in the pocket ?
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I have the phone under my pillow each and every night, no problemo's at all.
alinescoo said:
3. how are the flaps covering the ports? Do they tend to pop out after using them a while?
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They shouldn't pop out, not even after a while. If they do pop out (in the beginning) you should get your phone replaced. I have my Xperia Z almost 2 years now and until this day I never had any problems.
alinescoo said:
4. Do the buttons on the right, make the phone uncomfortable to hold ?
Thanks
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The buttons really won't obstruct you, it's as if they aren't even there, until you need to use them. I never pressed them by accident thus far.

1. I've heard mixed reviews about the glass. So I went with the Cruzerlite Bugdroid case, to be on the safe side.
2. Touch-2-Wake requires a double-tap on the screen. I've never experienced any issues in my pocket.
3. Get a magnetic charger. The case I have covers both flaps, so I never use them anyway.
4. The buttons never bothered me without a case. But the case I have makes them even more unnoticeable and comfortable to hold.

alinescoo said:
Hi,
I am trying to decide between Z3c, Galaxy Alpha and Nexus 5.
I have a few questions about the z3c which hopefully some of you will answer.
1. I have read about cracking back glass on the phone but I tend to believe that these incidents are rare and most should be covered by warranty. My concern is another: how slippery is the phone when holding it or using it from the table? Does it move ?
2. do the touch to wake work as expected or does it wake the phone in the pocket ?
3. how are the flaps covering the ports? Do they tend to pop out after using them a while?
4. Do the buttons on the right, make the phone uncomfortable to hold ?
Thanks
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1. It sucks for those who have had cracked glass, but the problem is overblown IMO. I remember exactly the same issue cropping up when the Nexus 4 was launched (back glass cracking mysteriously etc.) and in the two years I owned that phone the glass never cracked despite dozens of drops. If you tend to drop phones a lot then it would be something to consider. If you're careful i wouldn't worry.
2. Double tap to wake works perfectly for me. The fact that it's a double tap (as opposed to single) and that you have to tap quite firmly means I've never experienced accidental wakes.
3. Flaps covering the ports don't fill me with confidence, which is why I bought some magnetic charging cables so I don't have to use them much. They are solid plastic doors with rubber seals so I don't think they'll start popping out on their own, but the seal is bound to get a bit worn over time with repeated opening and closing and that will compromise waterproofing. I estimate that the seals will fail approximately one week after the Sony warranty expires :laugh:
4. No. Every phone I've owned has buttons in different places. It takes me about a day to get used to each different layout. This was no exception. I went from Nexus 4 (power on top, volume on left side) to the Z3c (power and volume on right side) with no hassle. And the buttons protrude so little that I barely know they;re there if not actively using them.
I chose the Z3c for its size, battery life, camera and price (in that order of importance). The Nexus 5 wins on price only (though stock Android is also a selling point). The Alpha ties on size and camera, but loses on price and battery. I also considered the 2014 Moto X, but the camera on that evidently sucks.

Not the OP but thanks very much for last Paragraph
simple comparison of Z3 C versus Alpha.
Do you think with 2500 Mah battery on Alpha , the only
difference generally would be price ?

robertkoa said:
Not the OP but thanks very much for last Paragraph
simple comparison of Z3 C versus Alpha.
Do you think with 2500 Mah battery on Alpha , the only
difference generally would be price ?
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Xperia Z3 Compact pros:
1. 16Gb built-in + expandable memory up to 128Gb (Alpha has 32Gb internal only, no expandable)
2. Waterproof
3. Cheaper
4. Better battery life
5. More color options
Alpha pros:
1. Better camera
2. Better build quality (maybe?)
Also personally I like the design of Z3 C much more and it's flat on the back so you can use the phone when laying on the table.

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Tiny bulge under SIM slot after 6 days

I just noticed this evening that I have a little bulge under my SIM slot. The rubber protrudes about 1mm, and is about 1/4" long. It happens to be exactly above where my ring finger rests when I hold my phone, as if my finger (over the past 6 days) has forced the separation. It's nothing a bumper or case won't fix -- but I don't have a bumper or a case.
Hopefully it's an isolated case **He naively says starting at the screen lift on his Nexus 7**
ralexand said:
I just noticed this evening that I have a little bulge under my SIM slot. The rubber protrudes about 1mm, and is about 1/4" long. It happens to be exactly above where my ring finger rests when I hold my phone, as if my finger (over the past 6 days) has forced the separation. It's nothing a bumper or case won't fix -- but I don't have a bumper or a case.
Hopefully it's an isolated case **He naively says starting at the screen lift on his Nexus 7**
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I dont see it. Can you get a closer picture?
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ctowne said:
I dont see it. Can you get a closer picture?
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Buy specs mate. Or get a better monitor.
Oh nevermind I see it now. I would send it back. He said under so i was looking under. That is more like above it.
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Looks like the rubber band warping. Not sim slot.
I ordered a nexus 4 and all I got was bo.
Yeah, that looks like a clear defect. I'd definitely have Google replace it.
I've had mine for over a week. It doesn't have that issue. Thank God.
That's a definite defect. Get a replacement ASAP.
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At least it still works mine is lifeless
Hi
Might just be clip on the back cover that hasn't engaged. Can you clip it back in by squeezing the back at that point against the front?
Regards
Phil
PhilipL said:
Hi
Might just be clip on the back cover that hasn't engaged. Can you clip it back in by squeezing the back at that point against the front?
Regards
Phil
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Nah, it's surprisingly stubborn. I've put quite a bit of pressure trying to "pop" it back into place to no avail. I really do hope this isn't a mass problem. I'm going to do an RMA (also have the rattle & hiss). The next one I'll have a case from Day 1.
Hi
ralexand said:
Nah, it's surprisingly stubborn. I've put quite a bit of pressure trying to "pop" it back into place to no avail. I really do hope this isn't a mass problem. I'm going to do an RMA (also have the rattle & hiss). The next one I'll have a case from Day 1.
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The rattle is just the plastic lens in the camera related to auto focus, a lot of phones have the same rattle, search for "camera rattle". Hiss is caused by the DC-DC power converters in the phone, it's a known issue with low power equipment such as mobile phones, just do a search for the terms "dc dc converter audible noise". These are not faults, just side effects of the technology that most people will ignore or not notice.
Such is the variable nature of these components you may get another phone that appears better or just the same or even worse, but very likely the rattle will always be there as that is just how the cameras are at rest with nothing powering the magnetic servo of the lens.
Obviously the bulge in the side of the case shouldn't be there, certainly a reason to get it replaced.
Regards
Phil
OP - I finally received my phone yesterday and noticed that I too have the same little bulge. Mine is on the opposite side of the phone. It does look like it's just a clip that didn't engage. However, like you, I tried to push it in to no avail. Since there is nothing else wrong with my phone at all I am holding off on sending it in for an RMA because I'd be afraid to get a phone with worse defects. This one is so minimal that I can live with it. Especially since I REALLY have to look for it to see it.
With that said, I'm contemplating just removing the backing, which I have read is super easy (just remove the two screws at the bottom and the sim tray and it pops off). I was thinking about doing this to inspect that little section to see if something is just protruding a tiny bit that can be easily corrected. I'm going to wait until I see others have successfully removed the backing before attempting it myself.
Just wanted to let you know that you are not alone.
UPDATE: I called Play Support and told the rep about the issue. He said I'm not the first person to have the small bulge and recommended an RMA since it's considered a defect so I went that route.
I returned a Nexus 7 that had the same problem. There was no screen lift, so I hesitated, but after taking the back off and seeing that internal components were pressing the bezel outwards (and the screen had been attached onto the already-bent bezel, leaving the bulgey spot without any adhesive to speak of even if I could get the bezel straight) I decided I didn't want to wait for dust to start creeping in and took it back. Glad I did, my replacement was perfect. Hope you get the same result with a new N4 (whenever they get around to having a new one for you :| ).
Damn I have the buldge to Don't know if i'm just noticing or if it's been there all along. I've decided i can live with the tiny amount of hiss in the ear piece and the camera rattle (which i've been told and believe is normal and not a defect). Can't decide if this is something that'll worsen over time or just live with this in fear of getting a device with worse issues. DOH
marnel47 said:
Damn I have the buldge to Don't know if i'm just noticing or if it's been there all along. I've decided i can live with the tiny amount of hiss in the ear piece and the camera rattle (which i've been told and believe is normal and not a defect). Can't decide if this is something that'll worsen over time or just live with this in fear of getting a device with worse issues. DOH
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Don't fret. I called Google about this issue since I have it too. The rep told me he had a few reports of this and recommended an RMA for it. It won't get worse but if it does bother you just call and have them send you a new one. The process is really easy. I've done this in the past with other Nexus devices as well. They send you a new one within 3-5 business days and put an auth charge on your card for the full price of the phone. Then, when you get the new phone you put the old one in the box and send it back to them. When they receive the phone they remove the auth hold. This way you are never left without a phone.
Anyone opened theirs up?
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Nexus after 3 weeks usage.

Well here is my few thoughts about the device.
Had the phone for about 3 weeks now, didn't use any sort of bumper or a case only a screen protector(s). And to be honest there ate issues that have evolved over time.
1. USB: when cable is connected and I gently move it up and down, port was clicking. Its like USB isn't glued properly inside and its coming off with every up/down move. This has now resolved, but instead when I gently press top and bottom part of the phone exactly where the USB port is, the phone is crackling.
2. Parts of the phone frame have started to crackle (or whatever the word ia) as well. E.g left top corner exactly where notification bar is
3. Power button is starting to wear off. Its harder to press and it starts to make funny sounds when pressed .
4. Not sure but I think I have yellowish tint at bottom part of the screen but it might be my eyes. Than again my eyes are quite ocd when it comes to stuff like that.
No other issues , no scratches, dents etc. It just feels that phone lost sturdiness ....
Will continue to update as new things emerge...
No other issues present at the moment
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MattSkeet said:
Well here is my few thoughts about the device.
Had the phone for about 3 weeks now, didn't use any sort of bumper or a case only a screen protector(s). And to be honest there ate issues that have evolved over time.
1. USB: when cable is connected and I gently move it up and down, port was clicking. Its like USB isn't glued properly inside and its coming off with every up/down move. This has now resolved, but instead when I gently press top and bottom part of the phone exactly where the USB port is, the phone is crackling.
2. Parts of the phone frame have started to crackle (or whatever the word ia) as well. E.g left top corner exactly where notification bar is
3. Power button is starting to wear off. Its harder to press and it starts to make funny sounds when pressed .
4. Not sure but I think I have yellowish tint at bottom part of the screen but it might be my eyes. Than again my eyes are quite ocd when it comes to stuff like that.
No other issues , no scratches, dents etc. It just feels that phone lost sturdiness ....
Will continue to update as new things emerge...
No other issues present at the moment
Sent from my Nexus 4 using xda premium
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Thanks for the info I never buy a nexus 4
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Those are all manufactures defects and should be covered by LG's warranty of a year if they become bothersome. I know my USB port makes the same noise.
MattSkeet said:
Well here is my few thoughts about the device.
Had the phone for about 3 weeks now, didn't use any sort of bumper or a case only a screen protector(s). And to be honest there ate issues that have evolved over time.
1. USB: when cable is connected and I gently move it up and down, port was clicking. Its like USB isn't glued properly inside and its coming off with every up/down move. This has now resolved, but instead when I gently press top and bottom part of the phone exactly where the USB port is, the phone is crackling.
2. Parts of the phone frame have started to crackle (or whatever the word ia) as well. E.g left top corner exactly where notification bar is
3. Power button is starting to wear off. Its harder to press and it starts to make funny sounds when pressed .
4. Not sure but I think I have yellowish tint at bottom part of the screen but it might be my eyes. Than again my eyes are quite ocd when it comes to stuff like that.
No other issues , no scratches, dents etc. It just feels that phone lost sturdiness ....
Will continue to update as new things emerge...
No other issues present at the moment
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1. I often wonder why anyone wanna wiggle the USB cable when it's connected. Do you do that with your laptop's USB cable, too?
2. Mine does not crackle.
3. Mine does not make funny noise when pressed.
4. My LCD is the same. Bought the screen adjust apps by Francis and the yellow tint is almost gone.
Been using since 19th Nov. Got my diztronic tpu case yesterday.
PopaStefanx said:
Thanks for the info I never buy a nexus 4
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I've had 16 different androids and this is best out of them all ,my current ones - gnex , gs3 , and HTC one x have nothing on this n4 the OP got a bad one reflects 0% of population. I have none of those issues he has and my screen is beautiful 1000000% better than Samsung amoled or whatever its called crap (
MattSkeet said:
Well here is my few thoughts about the device.
Had the phone for about 3 weeks now, didn't use any sort of bumper or a case only a screen protector(s). And to be honest there ate issues that have evolved over time.
1. USB: when cable is connected and I gently move it up and down, port was clicking. Its like USB isn't glued properly inside and its coming off with every up/down move. This has now resolved, but instead when I gently press top and bottom part of the phone exactly where the USB port is, the phone is crackling.
2. Parts of the phone frame have started to crackle (or whatever the word ia) as well. E.g left top corner exactly where notification bar is
3. Power button is starting to wear off. Its harder to press and it starts to make funny sounds when pressed .
4. Not sure but I think I have yellowish tint at bottom part of the screen but it might be my eyes. Than again my eyes are quite ocd when it comes to stuff like that.
No other issues , no scratches, dents etc. It just feels that phone lost sturdiness ....
Will continue to update as new things emerge...
No other issues present at the moment
Sent from my Nexus 4 using xda premium
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I have the two issues in bold. I thought I was just hearing things but yeah there's a clicking sound when I move the USB cable connector while it's plugged in.
Also have noticed a yellow hue in the bottom left corner of my screen since day one. Thought it would fade away but it's still there. Not a huge deal but it's definitely a bit odd.
I've had mine for a few weeks, and I'm not going to lie I get scared sometimes to squeeze the edges of the phone just in case I hear a crackle or squeak. I'm super ocd so Itll bother me knowing I have it even though I don't always feel it lol
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drawde40599 said:
I've had 16 different androids and this is best out of them all ,my current ones - gnex , gs3 , and HTC one x have nothing on this n4 the OP got a bad one reflects 0% of population. I have none of those issues he has and my screen is beautiful 1000000% better than Samsung amoled or whatever its called crap (
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If his experience reflects 0% of the population then all of the other threads started by others and comments from others still, in those threads should be closed by mods because they are obviously fake and classify as trolling. HOWEVER if maybe, JUST MAYBE the OP and the exceptionally high margin of other posters in the N4 forum are actually stating the truth about their experience with the obvious and even Google acknowledged (just call support like I did and they'll tell you they've gotten many calls from similar claims) then you sir are the troll and of the worse breed of trolls... The defensive, any complaints about Google or anything slightly related to Google cant be valid kind. Don't be a defensive sheep especially when your fellow tech nerd has a bad experience with a device that he payed $400 for. Honestly iSheep AND sheepdroids are equally annoying.
Well Ive had my N4 for about 2 weeks and heres my review...its perfect and I love it...No issues, yellow tint...noises...or etc...just a simply amazing device....Love it....
richteralan said:
1. I often wonder why anyone wanna wiggle the USB cable when it's connected. Do you do that with your laptop's USB cable, too?
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I didn't do it on purpose at first. I sleep with my phone next to me (use sleep time app so has to be next to me) and heard it pence when I was moving the phone but closer. And then a clicking sound from USB was showing on slight pressure put on the end of the cable ...
But I'm happy with the phone ... I'll wait few more months and if nothing new will show I'll ask lg to fix it as per warranty ...
Phone is still amazing and I love the looks of it.
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I too don't like the feel of the power button. Could be a potential problem down the road. Apart from that no major issues (knock on good).
MattSkeet said:
I didn't do it on purpose at first. I sleep with my phone next to me (use sleep time app so has to be next to me) and heard it pence when I was moving the phone but closer. And then a clicking sound from USB was showing on slight pressure put on the end of the cable ...
But I'm happy with the phone ... I'll wait few more months and if nothing new will show I'll ask lg to fix it as per warranty ...
Phone is still amazing and I love the looks of it.
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Mine does not make clicking sound when wiggled.
You should RMA it.
This issues make me feel justified in not buying the nexus 4 I have never been a fan of LG quality always been suspect. Theres a reason why they are in financial trouble and no one likes their phones. People complain about Samsungs plastic build but the phones are quality in every aspect
sent from my SGS3 while my nexus 7 sleeps
AndreaCristiano said:
This issues make me feel justified in not buying the nexus 4 I have never been a fan of LG quality always been suspect. Theres a reason why they are in financial trouble and no one likes their phones. People complain about Samsungs plastic build but the phones are quality in every aspect
sent from my SGS3 while my nexus 7 sleeps
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Ive had a lot of phones, mostly lgs and samsungs. to me I feel like they are both built very similar actually, in general ive felt that lgs buttons are better built, but when it comes to software samsung is ahead though that isnt an issue here.
I'm very happy with mine. I've got the usb thing happening, but I don't have problem with it
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AndreaCristiano said:
This issues make me feel justified in not buying the nexus 4 I have never been a fan of LG quality always been suspect. Theres a reason why they are in financial trouble and no one likes their phones. People complain about Samsungs plastic build but the phones are quality in every aspect
sent from my SGS3 while my nexus 7 sleeps
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LG sold 10 million of these models.. Not talking about just Nexus but Optimus L models and they are now even working on their own chip. I do not think they are doing so badly..
With regards to your crying, it is not so much that people do not want to hear about issues. It is the fact that many people including myself think some of these things are not issues at all. I also wonder why you are in this forum if you do not want or like this phone? What is your reason? To agree with people who complain and to defend them?
A clicking usb? I have not wiggled my usb and with normal usage I don't. Perhaps it is built to wiggle or have a little give so it does not break. I don't know but this does not seem like an issue. Also, if you are not hearing any creaks with normal use than it is not a real problem. If you are putting the phone next to your ear and squeezing it all over than stop.
My phone is perfect. No yellowing, no creaking, no usb clicking, no mysterious cracks or scratches. I am so happy and the build quality is amazing as are many of LG'S products.
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The only issue I've had so far is a bit of yellow tinting after extensive usage/screen on time, which is far from a deal breaker for me. I am BEYOND pleased with this phone - especially compared to the current flagships from other OEMs. It's not perfect, but I've yet to use a smartphone without it's own set of issues.
richteralan said:
1. I often wonder why anyone wanna wiggle the USB cable when it's connected. Do you do that with your laptop's USB cable, too?
2. Mine does not crackle.
3. Mine does not make funny noise when pressed.
4. My LCD is the same. Bought the screen adjust apps by Francis and the yellow tint is almost gone.
Been using since 19th Nov. Got my diztronic tpu case yesterday.
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link to screen adjust app by francis?
nba1341 said:
link to screen adjust app by francis?
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https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.nexus4displaycontrol
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nba1341 said:
link to screen adjust app by francis?
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There are a few kernels that have color adjustment built in, like Motley's, so you don't have to use color adjust apps.
But those apps can be used on any kernel thus provides you more flexibility.
Your choice.

[Q] S4A USB Flap/Seal

Hey all,
i have an issue with my usb flap. I can close it, and the phone allready survived some water. But as a mechanical engineer i am not happy with the seal for the usb port.
I try to explain it: when i close the seal it keeps popping out a little bit. Depending on which side i press in first (Top or bottom) the other one pops out about 0.5 to 1mm. In the end the flap seems to feel more comfortable in the position where the top side stays out. Some employee told me that is normal, i had nothing to compare so i have to believe him for the moment. Thats why i ask you guys if your device has the same or not.
Thanks for your help. Sorry for my english.
Greatz
I have the same problem currently. This is my second Active. The first didn't do this. I'm considering a warranty replacement, but I don't want to spend the time setting everything up again.
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Open the flap, then pull it just a tiny bit so the side section is exposed (you pull in the direction of the power button side of the phone, so to the right just a bit). When you insert it, you need to slide that section back into the area it's designed for, pressing down on the left side somewhat firmly (left in terms of you staring at the screen). When that's done, press down on the right side so it's flush - so the whole cover is flush with the bottom of the phone.
There's actually two "levels" of it being closed: the first is close to being flush but not completely; this level kills the water-resistant feature and your phone too if you don't seal it properly and dunk it.
The second level is when it's truly in place, and you can actually feel it when it "snaps" into that position - when it's truly in place the cover is totally flush with the bottom surface of the phone.
Just something I had to come to understand myself in my short period of time owning the GS4A.
Might be helpful info, might not, but that's how I've come to understand it and seal that USB port cover personally without issues.
My cover has been getting worse. I can still get it to snap into place, but I have to get it positioned just right or it does not seal completely. I think that it will probably break off soon and become lost. Does anyone know if the seal is easily replaceable? I haven't seen the part listed on the parts thread. It is frustrating to think that the only option may be to send it back to replace a 10c part. Considering the design intent of this phone, I certainly thought that Samsung would have developed an inductive charging back long before the USB seals would start wearing out.
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Hear's another thing (pun intended) about that microUSB port cover: it works in conjunction with the speaker as well meaning that whole bottom section is a "woofer" port enclosure, basically, taking the term from speaker enclosure technology.
When the cover is in place and sealed properly, you get "more bass" (ok it ain't much but it's very noticeable to me) when audio is coming from the speaker. If you remove the cover while audio is playing, voila, it turns all tinny and full of nothing but very high end frequencies. And when the cover is in that first level of being attached, you still will hear mostly high end frequencies - only when it's properly in place and the seal is in effect does the audio tone change, at least in my situation.
Just something I noticed, thought it was somewhat cool the first time it happened, I thought I had broken something when the audio took on that high tinny and harsh quality.
Mine broke last night and called samsung the tech guy telling me thats the fist time that the seal port cover broke.and I have to wait 2weeks to get it done.should I go att instead but not sure they will replace this thing...
pink_lady03 said:
Mine broke last night and called samsung the tech guy telling me thats the fist time that the seal port cover broke.and I have to wait 2weeks to get it done.should I go att instead but not sure they will replace this thing...
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I'd call AT&T's warranty line.
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br0adband said:
Open the flap, then pull it just a tiny bit so the side section is exposed (you pull in the direction of the power button side of the phone, so to the right just a bit). When you insert it, you need to slide that section back into the area it's designed for, pressing down on the left side somewhat firmly (left in terms of you staring at the screen). When that's done, press down on the right side so it's flush - so the whole cover is flush with the bottom of the phone.
There's actually two "levels" of it being closed: the first is close to being flush but not completely; this level kills the water-resistant feature and your phone too if you don't seal it properly and dunk it.
The second level is when it's truly in place, and you can actually feel it when it "snaps" into that position - when it's truly in place the cover is totally flush with the bottom surface of the phone.
Just something I had to come to understand myself in my short period of time owning the GS4A.
Might be helpful info, might not, but that's how I've come to understand it and seal that USB port cover personally without issues.
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Both of the ones I have are the same as this. I've had to really explain to the missus that she can't just 'sorta' close it otherwise it's not waterproof any more. I haven't had any issues yet but as soon as that wireless WiQiQi proves itself battle worthy (or at least doesn't mess up the seal on the back) I'm putting in for 2 of them ASAP. I haven't used any sort of wireless charging yet but I'm pretty confident that I won't ever buy a phone that doesn't have it ever again, same as I won't ever buy a non-waterproof phone after the Rugby Smart and the S4A have proved themselves worthy.
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Open the flap, then pull it just a tiny bit so the side section is exposed (you pull in the direction of the power button side of the phone, so to the right just a bit). When you insert it, you need to slide that section back into the area it's designed for, pressing down on the left side somewhat firmly (left in terms of you staring at the screen). When that's done, press down on the right side so it's flush - so the whole cover is flush with the bottom of the phone.
There's actually two "levels" of it being closed: the first is close to being flush but not completely; this level kills the water-resistant feature and your phone too if you don't seal it properly and dunk it.
The second level is when it's truly in place, and you can actually feel it when it "snaps" into that position - when it's truly in place the cover is totally flush with the bottom surface of the phone.
Just something I had to come to understand myself in my short period of time owning the GS4A.
Might be helpful info, might not, but that's how I've come to understand it and seal that USB port cover personally without issues.
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Mine unfortunately never snaps. I can push it to the desired position, but it never stays there.
So I have to replace it.
Hate this just because of one little part...
From mechanical view this problem seems logic. The seal fits into the housing and the USB port. The housing is connected to a print board and the USB port is on the print. The seal must fit very exactly and over this array of possible small failures a exact position is hard to get...
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If I can make a suggestion, take it as such for those (of us) that have the GS4A and may or may not be having issues with the microUSB cover/flap/etc:
Personally I can't wait to get my GS4A set up and working with a wireless charger. I'm still on the fence at the moment over which one to get/use but I'll figure it out. But because of the fact that I hate plugging and unplugging the GS4A (or any smartphone) and knowing that each time I do it I'm just creating that much wear and tear on the microUSB port, I purchased the app called Wifi File Transfer Pro a very long time ago and I have never had one single moment to regret the purchase (that means I LOVE IT).
I'm not a shill for it, but honestly, for a buck and change there's no better such app on the Play marketplace that I've been able to track down and I've tried about 30 of them meaning apps that allow you to connect to your device over your Wi-Fi network for file transfers to and from the device, etc.
The only reason I plug my GS4A in is to charge it these days and I'm just getting tired of doing it as frequently as I do because... I currently have a cheap Samsung counterfeit battery - learned the hard way with that one - but I have a real Samsung battery on order, should be here by Friday, purchased with that 50% off code they gave me for registering the GS4A with Samsung a few weeks back.
So in a few days I'll have a wireless charger, a real legit Samsung battery (brand new, even), and I'll use the microUSB port one last time, hopefully to do a proper full charge on that battery (with a 2A charger, even) and then once that's done I'll close that flap with the intention of never opening it again.
But seriously, if you're doing a lot of transfers to and from the phone for whatever reason, look into that app - Wifi File Transfer Pro from smarterDroid - or some other such wireless transfer app depending on your needs and wants (because there are several dozen of them on the Play marketplace and take the wireless route. Yes, using the microUSB is faster overall because it's a hardwired connection but I typically get 6-10MB/s using this app and my 11n network.
Go truly wireless or go home and save that microUSB port just for emergencies...
pink_lady03 said:
Mine broke last night and called samsung the tech guy telling me thats the fist time that the seal port cover broke.and I have to wait 2weeks to get it done.should I go att instead but not sure they will replace this thing...
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Mine broke off the first week I had it. Horrible design. Terrible application. I kept the plug but since I am constantly plugging in to power up it is more of a hindrance than a feature. Wireless will be an issue unless they will fit inside a protective case. The Active is already too thick to fit in most cases made for the regular S4.
It's the same thickness as the GS4 for the most part, barely a millimeter difference, but the GS4A is a bit longer top to bottom. There are a lot of cases available now for it that accommodate the differences (longer body length, slight expansion at the end rubber caps top and bottom back, etc). Those Diztronic ones are some of the thinnest full body cases I've seen so far but I went the Unicorn Beetle route and have been nothing but happy since I first put it on.
Yes the flap could have been done better I suppose, but I've got a cheap LG prepaid using a similar mechanism with the microUSB port cover and I've plugged unplugged that phone a thousand times over the years, still works fine.
Sometimes I think people should just take better care of their hardware...
A soft case without an opening for the flap would be nice Than it looks better and we can not destruct the flap

Already dented my N5

Thats right folks, the out edge of this that lies around the screen is very, very brittle and thin. I have never dropped the phone and it has been in my spigen leather pouch for my old nexus since I bought it, no idea how it got dented, and its only very slight without scratches but it is definitely there.. just a forewarning.
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Thats right folks, the out edge of this that lies around the screen is very, very brittle and thin. I have never dropped the phone and it has been in my spigen leather pouch for my old nexus since I bought it, no idea how it got dented, and its only very slight without scratches but it is definitely there.. just a forewarning.
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Strange. The Cruzerlite (which are thin TPU cases, cheap in my opinion) drop test stood up to NUMEROUS drops & the device survived without any sign of damage. Not a scratch or dent.
Is you device white or black? My old Nexus 10 had a defect in the black soft touch coating that looked like a dent, but it was more likely an issue in the molding or application process.
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Thats right folks, the out edge of this that lies around the screen is very, very brittle and thin. I have never dropped the phone and it has been in my spigen leather pouch for my old nexus since I bought it, no idea how it got dented, and its only very slight without scratches but it is definitely there.. just a forewarning.
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Pics?
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Mine is the white version, but the dent is on the top right above the camera, on the black portion, right where the side casing touches the glass. I would have a very hard time photographing this because of where it is on the phone/lighting etc.. ill try when I get home though.
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Thats right folks, the out edge of this that lies around the screen is very, very brittle and thin. I have never dropped the phone and it has been in my spigen leather pouch for my old nexus since I bought it, no idea how it got dented, and its only very slight without scratches but it is definitely there.. just a forewarning.
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a picture speaks a thousand words
I have about 5 or so nicks on the sides where the glass and plastic edge meet on my naked white N5. I agree that the plastic used is pretty brittle but it's not noticeable unless you really look for it.
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Get a sufficient case otherwise you can't really complain...
I have one little mark or nick as well where the plastic case meets the glass on that tiny little lip. My 2 year old got a hold of my phone and dropped it on a metal external hard drive case the day I got it and it landed right on 90 degree edge of the case... I went temporarily insane. It is very small but kind of surprised me I guess. I dropped my galaxy S3 many times and never got more than the little hairline scratches you see in glossy plastic. That soft touch coating seems to have some give to it. It was my fault. My parents gave my kids a new ipad mini and I set my phone on top of it. I was in the other room and heard him say "new tablet". I knew at that moment the mistake I had made...
I have one of those really slim cases on the way which would have prevented it. I typically don't use cases and am usually not bothered by the small marks I get on my phones but because some of those ultra thin cases are so slim now days I am going to try one out. Marking up a brand new phone is a little different than one that's a year+ old...
I too, also have a slight dent under the screen bezel part of mine. I have never dropped mine. Noticed it while it was on the table; that the reflection of the curtain was slightly bent at the one area, instead of being completely straight. Looked closely, and sure enough, there was a dent. It's not noticeable during day-to-day use, but you CAN notice it if looking at the reflection it shows.
The chrome bezel on the nexus 4 was susceptible to dents as well.
A few weeks ago the Nexus 5 flew out of my hands and landed on our concrete driveway. I feared the worst, but only a small dent in the upper left corner of the back panel and some scratching is all that happened. Lucky me, but I still hate it. Never had a single blemish on the Nexus 4.
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The sides of this phone are fine, besides the fact that they collect dust like crazy. The screen, however, is not. Another guy posting on Android Central also reported having a dent, similar to mine. I actually think this dent came with my device. I noticed it a couple of weeks ago, but disregarded it, as I thought it was the screen protector that came with the phone, but I decided to remove it and check again. It IS a part of the screen
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The sides of this phone are fine, besides the fact that they collect dust like crazy. The screen, however, is not. Another guy posting on Android Central also reported having a dent, similar to mine. I actually think this dent came with my device. I noticed it a couple of weeks ago, but disregarded it, as I thought it was the screen protector that came with the phone, but I decided to remove it and check again. It IS a part of the screen
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Normal. That's why most early glass screen protectors were not sticking properly.
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Normal. That's why most early glass screen protectors were not sticking properly.
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Normal? How is a dent on the screen normal? My Nexus 10 does not have this, my old Samsung Vibrant does not have this. Why would a dent on a Nexus 5 be normal?
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Normal? How is a dent on the screen normal? My Nexus 10 does not have this, my old Samsung Vibrant does not have this. Why would a dent on a Nexus 5 be normal?
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I would say it's normal because of the following reasons:
1) it doesn't effect the usage of the device in any way
2) it's barely noticeable even in the "perfect" lighting conditions
3) many have reported the exact same thing in the early tempered glass threads; the only time it has ever come up or been noticed.
So why exactly is it a problem for you? Corners were cut to make this phone at a cheap price I would think that's pretty clear. It's also not the screen itself but around it.
Dented
In my N5 have no dent and any scratch..
I love with my N5
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I would say it's normal because of the following reasons:
1) it doesn't effect the usage of the device in any way
2) it's barely noticeable even the "perfect" lighting conditions
3) many have reported the exact same thing in the early tempered glass threads; the only time it has ever come up or been noticed.
So why exactly is it a problem for you? Corners were cut to make this phone at a cheap price I would think that's pretty clear.
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There's a difference between "corners being cut" to make the device cheaper and really poor quality control. I understand them using a less camera module and a lower capacity battery, and a screen that washes out when tilted, etc, but the numerous issues with the hardware is ridiculous. Dents in screen, poor GPS connectivity, Wi-Fi problems, dust under screen, loose vibration motor, rattling buttons, and so on.
There is no reason for hardware bugs like this. To lower the price, lesser powerful hardware is used, but the low price is no excuse for poor quality. Like some users said, in terms of hardware, this device is like an alpha, and the only way to receive the "perfect" device is to continuously RMA.
We paid for the device, we should not be getting so many faults and issues.
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There's a difference between "corners being cut" to make the device cheaper and really poor quality control. I understand them using a less camera module and a lower capacity battery, and a screen that washes out when tilted, etc, but the numerous issues with the hardware is ridiculous. Dents in screen, poor GPS connectivity, Wi-Fi problems, dust under screen, loose vibration motor, rattling buttons, and so on.
There is no reason for hardware bugs like this. To lower the price, lesser powerful hardware is used, but the low price is no excuse for poor quality. Like some users said, in terms of hardware, this device is like an alpha, and the only way to receive the "perfect" device is to continuously RMA.
We paid for the device, we should not be getting so many faults and issues.
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How is it even a defect? It's not even noticeable. No one would consider it a hardware bug except apparently you. Please explain how this effects the usage of your device in any way.
Poor quality control is EXACTLY how corners are cut. Manufacturing anything has margin of errors and the less margin of error you're willing to release the more phones are "thrown away" and the more money a released device will cost. I'd explain more but I'm sure Wikipedia or a Google search can better explain the finer points of manufacturing and quality control then I can.
You read the specs of the phone and it has everything a $700 phone has but it costs $400. How did you think that was accomplished?
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You read the specs of the phone and it has everything a $700 phone has but it costs $400. How did you think that was accomplished?
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There is a lot of discussion about that price... but Google routinely undercuts the competition when it comes to the nexus line (looking at you, 7)
Looking at the specs of the 5, then looking at comparable phones out ing the market, the only conclusion I can come to is that Google is letting these things go at either zero margin, or (my thought) at a fairly beefy loss.... kicking back cash to LG to cover their losses.
All you need to do is look at the other phones available at the same full retail price... does the 5 seem anywhere close to those? Nope, it blows them all out of the water... laughable in most cases. Now, you can cut corners to lower prices, but you can't cut THAT much.
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There is a lot of discussion about that price... but Google routinely undercuts the competition when it comes to the nexus line (looking at you, 7)
Looking at the specs of the 5, then looking at comparable phones out ing the market, the only conclusion I can come to is that Google is letting these things go at either zero margin, or (my thought) at a fairly beefy loss.... kicking back cash to LG to cover their losses.
All you need to do is look at the other phones available at the same full retail price... does the 5 seem anywhere close to those? Nope, it blows them all out of the water... laughable in most cases. Now, you can cut corners to lower prices, but you can't cut THAT much.
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The actual cost break down might never be known. One thing is for sure though, LG is not willing to take any loss and whatever Google may have paid them "extra" they will still try and build the phone as cheap as they possibly can.
LG does not consider the Nexus as their flagship phone and will never treat it as such. It's a phone they were contracted to build and they will cut every corner they can. It's just business.

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My home-button/fingerprint sensor seems to be loose, after a while of not touching it the first touch seems to depress it back into place and then its fine for a while.
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My home-button/fingerprint sensor seems to be loose, after a while of not touching it the first touch seems to depress it back into place and then its fine for a while.
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Same here. I thought it's just me. Feels annoyed at first. I can't stand if something wrong happened with my phone (especially hardware issue). Usually I'm thinking to sell it and buy a new one.
But for this issue, I think i already get used to it.
*cheers*
Same on the loose home button
But i guess its not that bad as i forgot about it for the last 2 weeks...
Screen defect is horrible, design wise could've been 2mm thinner.
What screen defect are you referring to and is this a widespread issue?
My vibrator motor became loose one night, i only had it for 20 days tops and never dropped it
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My home-button/fingerprint sensor seems to be loose, after a while of not touching it the first touch seems to depress it back into place and then its fine for a while.
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maxupp said:
Same on the loose home button
But i guess its not that bad as i forgot about it for the last 2 weeks...
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coolsight said:
Same here. I thought it's just me. Feels annoyed at first. I can't stand if something wrong happened with my phone (especially hardware issue). Usually I'm thinking to sell it and buy a new one.
But for this issue, I think i already get used to it.
*cheers*
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Hello,
I have the same issue. My Home/fingerprint button is loose from the center to the left.
When I push it, I sometimes here crunchy noises (rarely when I put my thumb on it which is enough to unlock the phone).
The home button and the fingerprint sensor are both working fine so I won't send it back for now but this is an annoying detail (I can't stop thinking about this when I look at my phone ).
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Hello,
I have the same issue. My Home/fingerprint button is loose from the center to the left.
When I push it, I sometimes here crunchy noises (rarely when I put my thumb on it which is enough to unlock the phone).
The home button and the fingerprint sensor are both working fine so I won't send it back for now but this is an annoying detail (I can't stop thinking about this when I look at my phone ).
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it mostly happens to me after being in my pocket, just sitting around my house and it never does it.
Just dropped mine from 4 ft face down onto hard kitchen tiles, not a mark, phew
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I generally love this phone. The feel of the case is great and the glass screen is equally smooth. My only complains are:
1. Camera bump. I hate using a case, but I feel like I'm going to scratch / break my camera off because of how it sticks out of the back of the phone.
2. The sharp edges on the bottom, specifically around the USB port cut into my finger when I hold the phone.
3. While I think it looks fine on the Carbon Grey, the plastic strip along the top looks bad on the Silver version of the phone.
I don't think I would've ever noticed the looseness of the home button had I not read this thread. I never push on it, just lay my finger over it to unlock or go back home so it never occurred to me to check for movement. My screen is great (may have slightly color issues, but I don't really compare it to other devices so it doesn't bother me). The body of the phone to me also seems to be top notch. No chipping or scratches as of yet...my Nexus 6P chipped and bent rather easily and I tend to take care of my phones.
This guy destroys phones and he said the HTC 10 is a Tank.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQ62ixgzhrI
Perfect so far but I am disappointed with the black coating... a small drop and the bright aluminium shines through immediately... Why dont they mix paint with metal and then shape it instead of coloring if after ... its annoying watching those dents that are super visible just because it is painted :/
because you can just mix paint in with molten aluminum...
I have my 10 since yesterday and I am very happy with the build quality so far. The device has a premium feel to it and it is definitely the best quality smartphone I have ever had (including the iPhone)
coolsight said:
Same here. I thought it's just me. Feels annoyed at first. I can't stand if something wrong happened with my phone (especially hardware issue). Usually I'm thinking to sell it and buy a new one.
But for this issue, I think i already get used to it.
*cheers*
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Hello, I'm new here, I live in Germany, HTC is not so popular here , so I checked the international forums for information about my HTC 10.
I got my HTC 10 in August and I have the same problem with the home-button/fingerprint sensor. I'm anytime very careful with all my mobiles, so I have no idea why it is happen the same.
May I ask you it is getting worst with the home-button/fingerprint sensor since your last post here?
Sorry for my poor Englsih )
It feels and looks like an Iphone 3GS to me
this feel that every flagship phone should have
I have the newly released red one and the power button is a little hard to press, I kinda have to press it with my nail to push it.

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