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not sure if it's too early to ask this yet, but is there already a root method that doesn't trip knox or whatever thing that can void the warranty?
dn3g3l said:
not sure if it's too early to ask this yet, but is there already a root method that doesn't trip knox or whatever thing that can void the warranty?
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Short answer, no.
We all know t mobile don't check for root so why bother yourself with this
g3 soon to be NOTE 4
its all these IBone converts that are flocking to this phone..
They're so used to Apple telling them what they can and can not do, that they dont yet know how to handle the freedom of Android/T-Mobile..
i'm just going to assume you're directing that at someone else. i've been using using android for quite some time. there was no knox when i rooted my phone before.
i don't buy insurance from tmobile so they won't be the one that's handling my warranty issues if something happens.
Like the OP, I refuse to waste money on Carrier insurance, and my previous phones did not have Knox. So it remains an important issue if you are relying on Samsung warranty. It's clear that existing root will trip Knox. My question is - what is the chance that there will be a root that does not trip knox in the future. Is it worth waiting or is knox considered to be bulletproof?
Edit: and no, I never owned an iPhone, and all my Androids have been rooted so far.
From what I read nobody has been able to break the Knox that Samsung share this knowledge with Google.
If the phone died and no fault of your own, Samsung will not take it back even if Knox is tripped?
Im not expert but I think that Samsung has to have a way to remove " tripped Knox flag " or any phone with hardware failure and Knox flag tripped would have no resale value if, for example, usb port is replaced.
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dn3g3l said:
not sure if it's too early to ask this yet, but is there already a root method that doesn't trip knox or whatever thing that can void the warranty?
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it IS too early to ask; the phone has been out for a few days, so if you're paranoid about rooting because of tripping Knox, you'll have to just wait around and see, or develop an exploit and share it with the rest of the folks who feel they need it..
I've given back a Note 2 and a Note 3, KNOX wasn't out for Note 2 but it was rooted. Note 3 had a counter of like 12, as stated above, T-Mobile doesn't check.
BACARDILIMON said:
We all know t mobile don't check for root so why bother yourself with this
g3 soon to be NOTE 4
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This couldn't be any more true. I've rooted every phone I've had with them that could be rooted and never once had them turn me down for an exchange or replacement unit. Hell I think I replaced my old one s maybe seven or eight times over the years I had it and I even stopped flashing it back to stock and just sent it back. Not like it's super hard for them to clean it all back up to stock.
I'm certain that when you return a phone to most vendors, they just throw it into the "defect" pile, and those phones either gets wiped and re-imaged, or they send them to some 3rd party who buys them cheap and does that on their own.
after spending many years as a director of sales for a consumer electronics company, I know how expensive it is to try and inspect/repair returns, so I cant imagine that Samsung/t mobile/att and who ever else even bothers to look at them.
If you think about the thousands of phones coming back as returns every day, handling them any more than absolutely necessary is a major losing proposition for these companies, and they only care about profit. When you return your rooted/knoxed/bricked phone, they NEVER repair it, you just get a new or rebuilt one sent out to you.
But hey, if you want to worry about tripping Knox or sending in a rooted phone, and that you will be in trouble/charged/punished for that, then you just go ahead and keep thinking that!:cyclops::cyclops:
By week 2 we should have about 8 of these threads. Should have at least 2 about triangle away and a few about screen saturated.
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By week 2 we should have about 8 of these threads. Should have at least 2 about triangle away and a few about screen saturated.
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@BACARDILIMON it wont even take that long!
I currently have the LG G3 and after seeing the note 4 in person I want one . I guess my main question is should I hold off or do you guys think that its worth it to move on from the G3. I was a note 3 user and loved the phone, but Samsung really pissed me off with the whole Knox garbage that they implemented. In advance I am sorry if this thread is out of place, I just wanted some feedback from current owners.
huh? why do you even care about knox?
Came from a g3 and the note is better
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Burned my knox fuse less than 24 hours in. Who cares?
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huh? why do you even care about knox?
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Well in the event that I need my phone serviced, my concern is that I will be denied warranty by either T-mobile or Samsung. I honesty considered this a shifty move to use this as a reason to deny warranty claims....I might be wrong because I never have had to send my note 3 in for warranty purposes anyway. I miss how easy it was to connect to my samsung smart tv with the note 3, with the lg g3 it never streams well.
I also came from a G3. Had 2 of them, gave my wife one and sold mine on Craigslist and used the money to get the Note 4 which I'm using now. The Note 4 is a better device. The Snapdragon 805 handles the 2K display better and the battery is also better. Phone also doesn't heat up as much as the G3. The display being LED is also better then the LCD in my opinion with colors popping or u can dim the colors down in display settings.
If your able to obtain a Note 4 I say go for it. The Note 4 is a better device and will have more Development behind it vs the G3.
If you can't upgrade your not missing much.
In my opinion the Note 4 / Nexus 6 / G3 are the best devices currently on the market. Note 4 having an edge with the LED display and Stylus.
hypersonicx said:
I also came from a G3. Had 2 of them, gave my wife one and sold mine on Craigslist and used the money to get the Note 4 which I'm using now. The Note 4 is a better device. The Snapdragon 805 handles the 2K display better and the battery is also better. Phone also doesn't heat up as much as the G3. The display being LED is also better then the LCD in my opinion with colors popping or u can dim the colors down in display settings.
If your able to obtain a Note 4 I say go for it. The Note 4 is a better device and will have more Development behind it vs the G3.
If you can't upgrade your not missing much.
In my opinion the Note 4 / Nexus 6 / G3 are the best devices currently on the market. Note 4 having an edge with the LED display and Stylus.
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I am on the old jump plan and I have one upgrade left for the year so I am able to upgrade. You mentioned the note 4 doesn't heat up as much as the G3, that was one of my concerns and thanks for clearing that up. Using the phone for the torque app or navigation really fires up the g3, almost too hot. How loaded with bloat is touchwiz this time around?
I have the Note 4 and it is a great phone. It has replaced my OnePlus One as my main phone. The Note 4 is definitely better than the One, but only marginally. It isn't 450.00 better. Not for my usage at least.
its crazy bright! i dimmed it to like 5% and its still pretty bright lol
The charge is quite fast compared to the N3
Ive played around with the G3 and i6+, Note4 has better build quality imo although it doesnt look that way in videos. you have to hold it to believe it.
Metal bezel makes it a little slippery but the leather back, which feels a lot better than N3, helps offset it.
N4 wouldve been the perfect phone if the "Samsung" logo in the front is removed, quite distracting
I just upgraded from Galaxy S4 and I love it! I rooted day 1 and have no regrets.
Erazo1986 said:
Well in the event that I need my phone serviced, my concern is that I will be denied warranty by either T-mobile or Samsung. I honesty considered this a shifty move to use this as a reason to deny warranty claims....I might be wrong because I never have had to send my note 3 in for warranty purposes anyway. I miss how easy it was to connect to my samsung smart tv with the note 3, with the lg g3 it never streams well.
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See this thread I made back in the day when note 3 came out
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2561241
also this..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2506287
twe90kid said:
See this thread I made back in the day when note 3 came out
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2561241
also this..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2506287
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T-mobile uses experian for warranties and jump related trades, didn't they recently implement a policy to no longer accept any device with a tampered flag,rooted,etc for warranty and or jump purposes. This implementation also includes devices with tripped knox flags. I'm not trying to be a bummer or anything I just try to think ahead.
Erazo1986 said:
T-mobile uses experian for warranties and jump related trades, didn't they recently implement a policy to no longer accept any device with a tampered flag,rooted,etc for warranty and or jump purposes. This implementation also includes devices with tripped knox flags. I'm not trying to be a bummer or anything I just try to think ahead.
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TMOBILE uses asurion for warranty claims and both have no care about Knox or root. They both send out replacement as they are. They flash fresh software and ship it. It does not matter for anyone but Samsung.
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BACARDILIMON said:
TMOBILE uses asurion for warranty claims and both have no care about Knox or root. They both send out replacement as they are. They flash fresh software and ship it. It does not matter for anyone but Samsung.
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so samsung does care if knox got tripped? just wanna make sure since i don't use tmobile warranty. so if anything were to happen, i'll have to ship it back to samsung for repairs.
i'm not worry bout bricking my phone with root. just don't wanna be burn by hardware issues unrelated to root 1 month later if samsung rejects warranty.
dn3g3l said:
so samsung does care if knox got tripped? just wanna make sure since i don't use tmobile warranty. so if anything were to happen, i'll have to ship it back to samsung for repairs.
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Samsung would care. But why use them when t mobile takes care of you. Plus sending phone back to Samsung is like a 2 week progress .
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| came from the G3 as well. while the G3 was a nice phone I think the note 4 beats it. The Screen is better, battery life trumps the G3, and personally I like how the note 4 feels in the hand. One thing l do like more on the G3 is how they were able to fit the screen in such a small body.
dn3g3l said:
so samsung does care if knox got tripped? just wanna make sure since i don't use tmobile warranty. so if anything were to happen, i'll have to ship it back to samsung for repairs.
i'm not worry bout bricking my phone with root. just don't wanna be burn by hardware issues unrelated to root 1 month later if samsung rejects warranty.
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Technically Tmobile can cover warranty for Samsung devices instead of you having to send it to Samsung. I forget what it's called but as long as your device is within the manufacturers 1 year warranty, tmobile can advance replace you one for $20. The defective device goes back to Tmobile. If you don't return the defective phone they charge you I think $200. I did this with my note 3 a few months ago when the screen on/off sensor broke.
http://support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-2624
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BACARDILIMON said:
Samsung would care. But why use them when t mobile takes care of you. Plus sending phone back to Samsung is like a 2 week progress .
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I never bought any warranty/insurance from tmobile. I thought the basic 1 year warranty was that I can return to tmobile within 30 days and the rest of the year will be covered by samsung.
I will definitely be rooting ASAP if tmobile covers the entire year without me buying insurance from them.
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I never bought any warranty/insurance from tmobile. I thought the basic 1 year warranty was that I can return to tmobile within 30 days and the rest of the year will be covered by samsung.
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Ur first year is both but TMOBILE deals with it
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aznmode said:
Technically Tmobile can cover warranty for Samsung devices instead of you having to send it to Samsung. I forget what it's called but as long as your device is within the manufacturers 1 year warranty, tmobile can advance replace you one for $20. The defective device goes back to Tmobile. If you don't return the defective phone they charge you I think $200. I did this with my note 3 a few months ago when the screen on/off sensor broke.
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Ur first year is both but TMOBILE deals with it
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cool, thanks. never knew this. i will definitely be rooting this tomorrow.
I did a google search and I got conflicting results. With knox being tripped would it cause an issue if I were to try and upgrade?
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nope, trade away
I had a rooted S4 and upgraded through the Jump program to the Note 4 without any issues. The employee just checked to see if the phone booted.
Have not had an issue exchanging via jump or warranty.
My Note 2 was on cyanogen mod when I traded it in.
You're good to go.
All the employees checked was that it booted and that it was wiped.
I've done a few rooted ones with no issues. So long as there is no water damage, cracked screens and it boots. I have heard horror stories about attempting to Jump running a custom mod so it might be worth your time to ODIN/stock back up. Good luck!
Done it twice at two different locations....no worries.
My Htc one m8 that i traded for the note 4 was on GPE conversion when i did the jump lol
Right on for the input. The reason I asked was because my daughter wants her phone rooted (doesn't like the lag) and she's up for an upgrade in a couple of months.
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AT&T force my S5 900A to update to Lollipop before I had a chance to Root it. It appears there is no available option for rooting a Lollipop 900A (I tried Odin and Towelroot). What other options are there to attain a rooted S5? Is there a way to prevent AT&T from updating a phone and thus removing the root?
Can I buy a rooted S5 900F off Ebay and it work on my network?
Can I buy an earlier version rooted S5 900A off Ebay and prevent AT&T from updating it and losing its root?
Can I upgrade to a rooted S6, although I am not sure if these phones have been rooted yet?
What is the newest Samsung Note that has been rooted I could buy?
I guess all this depends upon preventing AT&T from updating your phone and losing the root, how do I do this?
Thanks for any help!
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AT&T force my S5 900A to update to Lollipop before I had a chance to Root it. It appears there is no available option for rooting a Lollipop 900A (I tried Odin and Towelroot). What other options are there to attain a rooted S5? Is there a way to prevent AT&T from updating a phone and thus removing the root?
Can I buy a rooted S5 900F off Ebay and it work on my network?
Can I buy an earlier version rooted S5 900A off Ebay and prevent AT&T from updating it and losing its root?
Can I upgrade to a rooted S6, although I am not sure if these phones have been rooted yet?
What is the newest Samsung Note that has been rooted I could buy?
I guess all this depends upon preventing AT&T from updating your phone and losing the root, how do I do this?
Thanks for any help!
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Call att and tell them ur home button or speaker is messed up they will send u a phone and just hope that its running 4.4.4 , only thing is thos point in time we got 5.0 a couple months ago so u might get a phone with 5.0 on it. I had a speaker problem i was unrooted on 5.0 e every1 was telling me now im screwed because i cant root , i called att and told them about my problem and got an s5 4 days later running 4.4.4 i was rooted on the 5th day running 5.0. Its worth a shot!! Good luck
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AT&T force my S5 900A to update to Lollipop before I had a chance to Root it. It appears there is no available option for rooting a Lollipop 900A (I tried Odin and Towelroot). What other options are there to attain a rooted S5? Is there a way to prevent AT&T from updating a phone and thus removing the root?
Can I buy a rooted S5 900F off Ebay and it work on my network?
Can I buy an earlier version rooted S5 900A off Ebay and prevent AT&T from updating it and losing its root?
Can I upgrade to a rooted S6, although I am not sure if these phones have been rooted yet?
What is the newest Samsung Note that has been rooted I could buy?
I guess all this depends upon preventing AT&T from updating your phone and losing the root, how do I do this?
Thanks for any help!
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here are a couple links for you to read thru they may help you out.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=60012961&postcount=1
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=59994426&postcount=1
I periodically check the forums with the same question. Has it been determined that it will be PURELY IMPOSSIBLE to root an S5 that got bumped to OC4? Am I wasting my time even continuing to check? Just hard for me to believe Sammy finally defeated all the hackers with no options left........
Which is why I switched to HTC and *love* it. Leaving for the same reason I left Apple ages ago. When manufacturers get greedy and lock their loyal users out of doing ANYTHING, they go bye bye in my book. I also had a nice Samsung Gear S watch that was quickly returned once determined it would work with Sammy and only Sammy. Headed to the new universal Android Moto360 and can't wait. Hope the Koreans are listening to all this while their market share slowly dwindles. It's a shame, too, as they make some really quality products.
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Yes, send Samsung/ATT to Hell. No Way I purchase another one. They want to play like they own your phone. So let them own it by not purchasing another one.
The only reason I have an 900A is becouse was a gift. But I was lucky that was not 5.x crap.
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Which is why I switched to HTC and *love* it. Leaving for the same reason I left Apple ages ago. When manufacturers get greedy and lock their loyal users out of doing ANYTHING, they go bye bye in my book. I also had a nice Samsung Gear S watch that was quickly returned once determined it would work with Sammy and only Sammy. Headed to the new universal Android Moto360 and can't wait. Hope the Koreans are listening to all this while their market share slowly dwindles. It's a shame, too, as they make some really quality products.
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Samsung going down = Korea's economy going down
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Vol4Ever said:
Which is why I switched to HTC and *love* it. Leaving for the same reason I left Apple ages ago. When manufacturers get greedy and lock their loyal users out of doing ANYTHING, they go bye bye in my book. I also had a nice Samsung Gear S watch that was quickly returned once determined it would work with Sammy and only Sammy. Headed to the new universal Android Moto360 and can't wait. Hope the Koreans are listening to all this while their market share slowly dwindles. It's a shame, too, as they make some really quality products.
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Did your accessories also transfer over?
Not sure how to post in the proper thread perhaps a mod could move this post to the peoper one?
Hi this will be my first post. I am seeking guidance to properly root my note 5. After researching this seems to be the most knowledgeable forum but cant find a kernel that works!
First let me explain my situation then I will list all phone specs that i think are necessary.
Im in Canada and was with Bell previously on contract. I had a note 3 which I rooted easily with kingo software. The phone is in great shape still thanks to my otterbox after 2 years. My work offers corporate plans through Roger's so after my Bell contract ended I switched to Rogers corporate plan with the note 5 on a 2 year term. I got the new phone because I was signing up for a new contract and wanted a cheap phone out of the deal. Now that my note 5 isnt rooting properly Im considering sending it back continuing with my corporate plan on my note 3 which works great. The note 5 is awesome so far but if rooting doesnt succeed want my note 3. Rogers gave me a 14 day no questions asked return policy grace period to decide which i have 12 days left. Lastly I purchased a returnable otterbox but a non refundable gorilla glass which has already been installed to on my phone. Just another factor to consider when making this desision as the gorilla glass will be a loss. Id love to keep my note 5 and note 3 as a backup if I get it rooted properly.
Now onto problems Ive had after rooting.. depends on the kernel. Ive had issues mostly with my calls resulting in my note 5 restarting or silence when making calls. One kernel I used froze my phone in the recovery mode screen.. guessing the kernel was invalid.. I have superSu I dont know what Im doing wrong. Im using odin and loading it into the 2nd line i think its under AP. Oh I did the developer option thing already.. oh and I installed proper drivers to my PC twice to make sure.
Lastly heres all the info to hopefully find me the right kernel specific for me.
Samsung note 5
SM-N920W8
With Rogers in Canada
Android version 5.1.1 (Lollipop)
Current kernel Noble kernel v0.1 (most stable but resetting phone during calls)
If there any other info you need to provide me with the right kernel just let me know what you info you require.
I hope to find out within the 14 days if I can keep this phone or not. Realllllly apreciate the help in advance. Bill.
Nobody has any info? Becoming very frustrating
+1 for a friendly bump
I am in the same position as you and recently upgraded to Note 5 as well from Note 3. Honestly, Note 3 with root is by far my favourite phone of all time. I have been reading up on n920w8 threads too and haven't had much luck so hopefully someone more knowledgeable can chime in.
The one thing that is keeping me from rooting is the fact that others have reported that Samsung/Google Pay won't work after.
btw... have you not tripped knox on our phone yet by flashing one of the kernels?
Yeah the note 3 was great ran smooth loved the os the root ran smooth never had any issues. The note 5 just looks and feels newer but its so unstable I lost calls today dling my taxes then speaking to my lawyer.. I have no landline so Im basically out of a phone right now kind of panicking I need to have a phone but I dont know if I can return it now? Its still within the 14 day grace period can I factory reset and return and stay on the plan the my.note 3? I need to figure something out quick.. I would keep this phone if the root worked but honestly I can go back to the note 3 I can unlock from Bell to Rogers for free right since its rooted?
I can't find any sign of knox on my phone since the root thing wont find it in s finder or anywhere so Im assuming it tripped. Honestly I never used knox on my note 3 either because it was void what does it do? Oh and Google play works fine though..
Im all for keeping the note 5 IF I can get it rooted properly I cant constantly lose calls like this.. Is there anyone out there that has a working kernel or should I attempt to return it? I have like 6 days left..
I was reading that the skyhigh kernel for tmobile is supposed to work. Already have it flashed. Can anyone confirm if this is the right one for Rogers note 5 SM-920W8