Hi
I bought an Android Tab with 2.1 running on it, I plugged it in to usb and it shows as HTC Dream, but driver wont install, has anyone been playing with one of these tabs?
thanks
deconfrost said:
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I bought an Android Tab with 2.1 running on it, I plugged it in to usb and it shows as HTC Dream, but driver wont install, has anyone been playing with one of these tabs?
thanks
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A little more information could be helpful...
I know you say that it is unbranded, but any information regarding the source could be helpful. Sometimes those Chinese clone factories can use existing devices to base new products. One interesting possibility is that it might actually share some of DREAM's internals, i.e. the factory that USED to make HTC DREAM is producing these tablets using some components that they already have...
A look under the cover (take the covers off it and snap a picture) might help...
deconfrost said:
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I bought an Android Tab with 2.1 running on it, I plugged it in to usb and it shows as HTC Dream, but driver wont install, has anyone been playing with one of these tabs?
thanks
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settings--> phone information --> would be nice to provide us with that info;
most likely your pc is recognizing it wrong because both are android devices and you had one htc android device already added.
Did you buy one of those $99 tablets that WalGreens is selling?
hi thanks for the replies.
I don't really want to take it apart yet, my 3yr old is playing angry birds on it constantly
sorry just looked at the listing where I bought it
ZT-180 chipset (1.4GHz dual-core processor)
Model Number
1000ET
Firmware Version
Android 2.1 -update1-20101020
Kernel Version
2.6.32.9 usbandroid#1608
Build Number
1000ET-eng 2.1-update 20101020
it doesnt take a sim card, but usb 3g dongle works out of the box, nice
its not the $99 ones.
Its 10.2" Zen ones on ebay
thanks everyone
ps. just found the post about this tablet, I will look through that now, 237 pages, Ouch.
if anyone can give me some info about roms status would be great, its a lot of pages to read
thanks again
Angry Birds is awesome. I wish it ran better on my G1...
the one posted in the 237 pages isn't really the same thing though, that one is running on arm 1GHz, are they still compatible on roms?
Hi guys, I'm gonna get a Motorola Milestone soon.And the main reason is because of the physical keyboard.However I'm still confused about whether to get this or the Nexus one.I know that the Milestone can be overclocked and the speed likewise,I'm not too worried about it.But,can I run things like Cyanogenmod 6.1 on it maybe,cos I would rather use a custom rom than wait for updates.Please answer me.Lastly,is the screen smooth like the amoled display on the Nexus One?Please help! Thanks!
Yes when overclocked to to 1GHz the Milestone is equal in CPU power to the Nexus One, and the GPU in the Milestone is faster then the Andreno 205 in the Nexus One, regarding the screen yes the Milestone has a much better screen than the Nexus One , regarding color acuracy and things like that, the Milestone uses a IPS panel that is regarded as one if the best screens in mobile industry, the only thing that the AMOLED in the N1 is better at is power consumption and even that not that big difference, so the Milestone wins, but the downside is the locked bootloader that really is a deal breaker, but if you can live with that the Milestone is better, and one more thing, is the oficial updates, the Nexus One is going to recive them for a couple of months or better, but the Milestone is EOL....
What?So that means I can't use custom roms on the Milestone?
It's beyond my comprehension how can anyone recommend Motorola Milestone over anything.
First we got the locked bootloader and yes, that means no custom ROMs for newer versions than Motorola provides. Because Motorola will provide only Froyo somewhere next few months, you can forget Gingerbread on Motorola Milestone.
Then there is the memory issue, Motorola Milestone has 256MB RAM compared to 512MB of Nexus One or other newer devices. This is a huge difference.
In short - if you want a good Android phone with keyboard, get HTC Desire Z. If you want a good keyboardless phone, get Desire HD, Samsung Galaxy S, HTC Desire or Nexus One (or Motorola Milestone 2). Motorola Milestone is a option only if you want to save lot of cash and you don't care for the limitations.
Yup thanks for the advice.
i am confused about custom rom?? what the roms available in the "Motorola Milestone Android Development" section of the forum? aren't they custom roms? planning to get a milestone too as it less expensive and i want a flash enabled phone..
Basically if the bootlocker is locked, you can't install a custom rom like cyanogenmod using rom manager.But must use other ways which is really difficult for me.The motorola milestone will be getting froyo aka android 2.2 so flash player will be available for download in the android market.So flash will still eventually be available for the Motorola milestone.But I doubt it will be getting android 2.3 so if you wanna get it,you may have to install a custom Tom which I say will be difficult for beginners like me but can be learnt However,the milestone is pretty old already.Why not get a milestone 2 or a Desire 2?Both have physical QWERTY keypad and android 2.2,that means flash is available.
way too expensive... i am going to buy an unlocked phone to use in my country.
Well, if you don care about custom roms, why not just get the motorola milestone and wait for froyo or maybe froyo is already available in your country It will be a pretty good buy! Root the motorola milestone and overclock it and you will feel your phone is really new!
Get a milestone if you want. Desire z has Sense ui and Europe has a bad rep on updating Sense Ui phone, take a while to update, even longer then Moto at times. Motorola is already thinking of support the original Droid with 2.3 os in Late Q1 2011. Maybe, that should give you milestone users; some hope on getting Gingerbread official or Rooted roms. If storage is the problem Do Sd partitioning to swap the apps on your sd..
Only if you were in america my droid has flash player, trust me is good but not great. Same goes with g2 aka htc desire Z have flash doesnt run excellent either. Droid/milestone is better then Desire Z. If you buy Desire Z u going to be spending more money on device; that has similar if not less feature then droid/milestone rooted.
Single LED FLASH= For picture in dark
Dual= 2 LED FLASH= On Milestone
Milestone has less ram with 256 ram, but with sd partioning that can be solved.
Desire Z have an 512 ram.
Milestone has D pad for gaming and better navigation without the touching the screen.
Desire Z has those loose hinges that can be a problem to several users.
Milestone has better GPU= graphic processor with Power vr CHip SHG 530 so does the Galaxy phones and iphones has them 540 and 535.
Desire z has adreno 205 which is limited.
Milestone have better resolution with 854x480 over
Desire Z that have 800x480 .
Milestone might not have the ram, but in everything else it beats Desire Z.
Milestone 512 rom internal memory, but allow user to use 256 Mb
Desire Z has 1.2 gb internal memory.
Overall I say go with Milestone if you are hacker.
Off topic info-In my opinion since the droid 1/Milestone came out a lot of phone are copying the layout of this phone . Look droid incredible,iphone4 and G2/Desire Z. They look like the original Droid.
yeahman45 said:
i am confused about custom rom?? what the roms available in the "Motorola Milestone Android Development" section of the forum? aren't they custom roms? planning to get a milestone too as it less expensive and i want a flash enabled phone..
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The Milestone uses a 100MHz SG530.
The Adreno 205 in Desire Z is a lot faster than the Adreno 200 in the previous Snapdragons. Its performance is on par with the 200MHz SGX530 from Droid 2 or Droid X.
The Hummingbird in Galaxy S uses a SGX540 (blows everything away and sides with Tegra2), and both the 3GS and iPhone 4 use a SGX535 @ 150MHz (better performance/clock than SGX530, equivalent to SGX530 @ 200MHz in most cases).
The Desire Z is a better device all-round, no doubt about that. But it's also a lot more expensive.
And with all the dual-core high-end phones coming out in a couple of months, right now it's a really bad time to be spending a lot of money in high-end phones like the Desire Z.
If you're going to throw the Desire Z around, I would much rather have the Droid 2 Global. Its superiority over all phones makes up for the locked bootloader (IMO). It depends on your needs and standards. I place the touchscreen, overall display quality, and build quality above all else. In these departments, neither Nexus S (definitely not the N1) nor the Desire Z is in the same league as the Droid 2 Global.
milestone help...
Currently I'm not under contract with any carriers, was using my nexus one on local carrier and traded that for an iphone 4. Sold that and currently using a samsung vibrant which only cost $160. I can get a milestone for free with a 2 year contract, but I ll probably just the vibrant mainly. Would the milestone be a good backup android device? It seems out dated to me already, should I just stick with a blackberry bold (even more outdated)????
You should just keep your Vibrant, IMO.
I wouldn't sign a 2-year term just for the Milestone.
All I can say dump vibrant. Samsung take to long updating. It took them 9 month to update to android 2.2 os on vibrant from july 15 release until january 14th 2011 in tmobile usa. Sprint release their samsung galaxy(epic) came out in early august still stuck 2.1 os.
Samsung galaxy(captivate) 2.1 os came out late august no update yet.
Samsung galaxy(fascinate) 2.1 os in late september...
List go on
Droid 1 is getting 2.3 os in march . Giving chance to milestone user in getting gingerbread.
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Get a milestone if you want. Desire z has Sense ui and Europe has a bad rep on updating Sense Ui phone, take a while to update, even longer then Moto at times. Motorola is already thinking of support the original Droid with 2.3 os in Late Q1 2011. Maybe, that should give you milestone users; some hope on getting Gingerbread official or Rooted roms. If storage is the problem Do Sd partitioning to swap the apps on your sd..
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Umm...
Updates to the Droid are not useful in giving hope to Milestone users. We did not get stable 2.2 ROMs until Motorola leaked a 2.2 firmware. Locked bootloader means we can never replace the kernel until Moto releases a signed version.
HTC Sense UI has been *the most* up-to-date custom UI overlay out of all the manufacturers. Once an official Froyo ROM was released for the HTC Desire anywhere in the world (June/July 2010), the RUU was compatible with all GSM/HSPA Desire phones worldwide. The Droid 1 OTA did not arrive till August and it was a USA-CDMA exclusive that was relatively useless in providing options to non-US Moto users.
"Even longer than Moto at times"... can you provide me an example where HTC users had to wait longer in Europe for a working official-sourced Android update compared to a similar-generation Moto phone?
In Europe, as far as I can tell, every HTC phone that was about to get an update, got it long before the European Moto phones got theirs.
For example: HTC Desire got FroYo late summer/early autumn 2010 (forgot exact date).
Moto Milestone -> will get official FroYo sometime the next two-four weeks (Q1 2011!!). Inofficial "leaked" FroYo only appeared like a week ago (Asia-Pacific version, not even the one for Europe, but works just fine).
Do NOT(!) pick Milestone if you want to be able to do anything you want with your phone.
Get it if you can wait 2-3 more weeks for FroYo, and if you are willing to more or less use it "out-of-the-box". (maybe rooting and a bit of tweaking/overclocking/themes, but no REAL "Roms" possible).
get that droid x ME181 china-only market
or wait for dual core phone
That not true only a few location hasnt update their phones... A few european country already has updated the milestone 2.2 os since late december. Example Spain has 2.2 os already on their phone.
Htc desire got it update in July 31 the first full month of summer.
Motorola milestone aka Droid in usa got 2.2 os since August 3rd. If you hacker u can update milestone 2.2 os because droid users coded the update to milestone users already. Search up Droidforum.net That mean if droid get 2.3 os officially u milestone users can get it by us coding it for ya.
Not wait for htc to update the device.
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In Europe, as far as I can tell, every HTC phone that was about to get an update, got it long before the European Moto phones got theirs.
For example: HTC Desire got FroYo late summer/early autumn 2010 (forgot exact date).
Moto Milestone -> will get official FroYo sometime the next two-four weeks (Q1 2011!!). Inofficial "leaked" FroYo only appeared like a week ago (Asia-Pacific version, not even the one for Europe, but works just fine).
Do NOT(!) pick Milestone if you want to be able to do anything you want with your phone.
Get it if you can wait 2-3 more weeks for FroYo, and if you are willing to more or less use it "out-of-the-box". (maybe rooting and a bit of tweaking/overclocking/themes, but no REAL "Roms" possible).
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So today Motorola India launched a new variant of X4 in India. Bumping the RAM from 3 & 4 GB to 6GB with same 64GB storage.
The main highlight is the phone comes with Oreo out of box and it supports Treble..
Now see what Motorola has to say about new X4 Variant -
There don't seem to be any other differences but the RAM amount, and the fact that the handset ships with Oreo by default. Motorola does say that there are a few interface tweaks pertinent to the fresh X4, but the other models will eventually get them, too. After that the key difference will be the extra 2GB of RAM.
So what is Motorola is talking here abt that the older models will eventually get it..? Is it the treble support.?
If they don't enable treble on the original moto x4, they will be loosing out on many potential customers who care about the latest updates and ROMs. I think that not enabling treble will be a huge mistake on Motorola's part. I'm also starting to get annoyed with the huge market catering to India...
Honestly, I think there's 0 chance it will happen, sorry.
Do you guys think its possible to flash the stock rom from a new moto x4 to an old one ? That could be a way to enable treble for the "old" devices
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Do you guys think its possible to flash the stock rom from a new moto x4 to an old one ? That could be a way to enable treble for the "old" devices
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I am curious to take a look at the firmware from this device. Does anyone have it?
No one should hold their breath for a "Treble Update" from Motorola... it may require repartitioning the device and doing that via OTA would be quite a challenge and be too risky for them.
That said, I would still like to see the vendor/HAL implementation, and especially check out partitioning. From an efficiency/cost standpoint it would be surprising to see any major differences in structure since that would require Motorola to have a dev team just for one new variant.
But even if the devices are identical that does not mean we could simply flash the Treble firmware. There would seem to be an intermediate step that would require partitioning. It may be beyond the scope of our existing tools. These may be changes that could only be made with Motorola proprietary software.
But an interesting development, nonetheless...
Just did a little reading, and it seems that the hardware IS different than the original X4...specifically the SoC which is SDM636 running custom Kyro architecture vs. our SDM630
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Just did a little reading, and it seems that the hardware IS different than the original X4...specifically the SoC which is SDM636 running custom Kyro architecture vs. our SDM630
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where did u read that..?
The only difference is extra 2gb ram and Oreo out of box.
here is the product page, check for yourself..
https://www.flipkart.com/moto-x4-super-black-64-gb/p/itmez9u3cgg9zfy2?pid=MOBFF6GGPJYKGQCK&sattr=color&sattr=storage&sattr=ram&st=ram
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where did u read that..?
The only difference is extra 2gb ram and Oreo out of box.
here is the product page, check for yourself..
https://www.flipkart.com/moto-x4-su...CK&sattr=color&sattr=storage&sattr=ram&st=ram
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Read it here on XDA
https://www.xda-developers.com/new-motorola-moto-x4-variant-india-february-1/
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Read it here on XDA
https://www.xda-developers.com/new-motorola-moto-x4-variant-india-february-1/
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it was a rumour. x4 6gb version is still having sdm630.
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it was a rumour. x4 6gb version is still having sdm630.
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Excellent... can't wait to see under the hood
I don't think so, but it IS possible.
When Oreo came out, it was important for Motorola to update their phones quickly to Oreo;
in order to look good compared to other brands.
Implementing Treble would take more time; but once implemented would make it easier for them to provide faster security updates in the future.
So it's a possibility that the next security update in january or february, may include Treble.
The moto X4 is due to receive Security updates until April 2019, so Treble might make sense to Motorola.
But there's definately no way to know for sure.
But isn't 6 GB just a variant of Moto x4, so probably it also doesn't have project treble enabled.
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So today Motorola India launched a new variant of X4 in India. Bumping the RAM from 3 & 4 GB to 6GB with same 64GB storage.
The main highlight is the phone comes with Oreo out of box and it supports Treble..
Now see what Motorola has to say about new X4 Variant -
There don't seem to be any other differences but the RAM amount, and the fact that the handset ships with Oreo by default. Motorola does say that there are a few interface tweaks pertinent to the fresh X4, but the other models will eventually get them, too. After that the key difference will be the extra 2GB of RAM.
So what is Motorola is talking here abt that the older models will eventually get it..? Is it the treble support.?
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I am also sad seeing such slow development on X4 not much roms, not official or unofficial treble support!, still being Android one device is so sad and bad!
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mightysween said:
I am curious to take a look at the firmware from this device. Does anyone have it?
No one should hold their breath for a "Treble Update" from Motorola... it may require repartitioning the device and doing that via OTA would be quite a challenge and be too risky for them.
That said, I would still like to see the vendor/HAL implementation, and especially check out partitioning. From an efficiency/cost standpoint it would be surprising to see any major differences in structure since that would require Motorola to have a dev team just for one new variant.
But even if the devices are identical that does not mean we could simply flash the Treble firmware. There would seem to be an intermediate step that would require partitioning. It may be beyond the scope of our existing tools. These may be changes that could only be made with Motorola proprietary software.
But an interesting development, nonetheless...
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I am very sad seeing such slow development on X4 not much roms, not official or unofficial treble support!, still being Android one device is so sad and bad!
The slow development is because of the A/B partition scheme, if you look other phones that uses the same partition system it'll be the same, it's Google "fault".
Last I checked, all devices running Oreo have to have Treble. That is why everyone was mad at HTC for shipping new phones with Nougat.It especially makes sense for the Android One variant because the have to get timely updates out, which they have. It would be off for the 6gb to have it and no others because Google requires every