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Should I get LG O2X?

Hello!
I'm gonna buy a new phone, but idk when. I think I'm gonna buy the LG O2X, though after reading all the problems with it, I'm not sure.
I have heard troubles like:
Shuts down and reboot randomly.
Shows wrong battery percent left.
WiFi stops to work when you turn it on after sleep.
I also heard about 2 people who had their LG out in the sun, when it was like 20-25 degrees and it started to reboot every 2 minute.
If the phone didn't have all these problems, I would definitely get it. But that's apparently not the case.
Damn, this is driving me crazy, I can't decide whether I should get it or not. Please help me.

All the things you've listed are software, the first CM7 nightly is currently building. That said I've not had mine's been mostly fine. No wifi issues, only had odd battery behavior when trying new kernels. Have had a couple of overnight reboots, but not for about 5 days.

Rusty! said:
All the things you've listed are software, the first CM7 nightly is currently building. That said I've not had mine's been mostly fine. No wifi issues, only had odd battery behavior when trying new kernels. Have had a couple of overnight reboots, but not for about 5 days.
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Thanks!
I know that the problems I listed is problems with the SW, and can be solved. But the problem about their phone did reboots every 2 minute when they had it outside in the sun. Is the problem I most worry about, since it doesn't sounds like problems with the SW.
I'm not gonna change ROM or something. Since I don't wanna loose my warranty.
And LG doesn't seems to solve problems that quickly, correct me if I'm wrong.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=997705, I read a few pages there, so many seems to have trouble with it. So I really don't know what I should do.

Every 2 minutes? Weird lol. My o2x was right next to me while I was lying in the sun all the time during the easter holidays. No such probs here, actually none of the probs you mentioned. If you get one with constant freezing you can always get an exchange, you know

bbyte said:
Every 2 minutes? Weird lol. My o2x was right next to me while I was lying in the sun all the time during the easter holidays. No such probs here, actually none of the probs you mentioned. If you get one with constant freezing you can always get an exchange, you know
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Sounds good. I guess you're right about exchanging. But I wanna save myself the trouble.

Any software changes you make can be reversed easily enough for warranty purposes.

Rusty! said:
Any software changes you make can be reversed easily enough for warranty purposes.
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Alright, that's good. But having to change ROM, to get a good working phone doesn't seems right.
How is the phone at browsing? I've heard that the text isn't best on O2X.

simonh94 said:
Alright, that's good. But having to change ROM, to get a good working phone doesn't seems right.
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correct
you can go stock and all is fine.- do not read all those reviews..about rebootings, lags..
I had stock for couple of days and it was very smooth, all fine, no lags, no reboots, then MoDaCo and even this was great.

simonh94 said:
I also heard about 2 people who had their LG out in the sun, when it was like 20-25 degrees and it started to reboot every 2 minute.
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Sounds like your friends' phones could have errant processes running in the background and the extra heat from the sun could have pushed the phones into instability.
Ask them to install "Watchdog Task Manager Lite" to monitor the processes running on their phones. If they can track down which app processes are the culprits, they should try to delete or modify the app settings to quieten down their errant behaviours. This should help with the "every 2 mins in sun reboot" issue.

rori~ said:
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you can go stock and all is fine.- do not read all those reviews..about rebootings, lags..
I had stock for couple of days and it was very smooth, all fine, no lags, no reboots, then MoDaCo and even this was great.
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Sounds very good. Well, I've mostly read the problems on forums.
ppsun said:
Sounds like your friends' phones could have errant processes running in the background and the extra heat from the sun could have pushed the phones into instability.
Ask them to install "Watchdog Task Manager Lite" to monitor the processes running on their phones. If they can track down which app processes are the culprits, they should try to delete or modify the app settings to quieten down their errant behaviours. This should help with the "every 2 mins in sun reboot" issue.
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I read about this problem in a forum. But thanks for the "Watchdog Task Manager Lite" tip, I guess it could be handy when I get a android phone. If it will be LG O2X, we'll see.

If you are a non-hacker type person, and just want to use the phone straight out of the box, it might be prudent to avoid most, if not all, of the dual-core phones for now. I think the designers and programmers are still trying to iron out the kinks with the new dual-core phones. IMHO, a fast single-core Android phone might probably be a more fuss-free phone straight out of the box than dual-cores currently.

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If you are a non-hacker type person, and just want to use the phone straight out of the box, it might be prudent to avoid most, if not all, of the dual-core phones for now. I think the designers and programmers are still trying to iron out the kinks with the new dual-core phones. IMHO, a fast single-core Android phone might probably be a more fuss-free phone straight out of the box than dual-cores currently.
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Well, I don't change phone that often, so I wanna have future proof phone that isn't too expensive. And I believe this is that phone.
I'm pretty sure I can root it and change rom. But... I'm too afraid I might mess it up.

In forums like these you will mostly read about the issues that some are having, because people tend to seek out these forums when they disover isues - the wast majority may not have any issues and dont post in forums like these. So regardless of which device you get, you will allways find alot of forum posts dealing with whatever bugs some users are facing. The number of issues and error posts for the LG isnt really that big, nothing out of the ordinary, and nothing you wont see just as many or more for ANY other device out there - single core or dual core.
Basically dont get scared off by these but only use it as a guide to perhaps seek for specific bugs which you would not be able to live with untill they get fixed by the manufacturer.
I have 2 LG optimus - one for myself and one for my teenager son
Both bought on the same day 6 weeks ago.
Mine has run completely stable and "errorfree" since day one - not a single random shutdown or lockup bsod - no issues with wifi, 3g or anything - has worked with every single app I tried, no batterydrain (easily get 2 days worth) etc. etc.
They are running completely stock with the only change being a different laucher (GO launcher) to solve the micro stutter in swyping between homescreens which the standard LG launcher has (just a very minor software issue).
The only issues I have left are 2 known issues - which for certain will be solved by some new LG update. One is the lag that happens while installing a new app from market - the other is the memory management which isnt completely optimised causing free memory to sometimes run a litle lower than wanted.
If you arent unlucky and get hit by the random shutdowns and bsod that some users are facing - then you do get a very nice future proof phone that isnt too expensive, and does most things pretty good allready - and will only get better as updates arrives
Imho, rooting and new roms arent really needed, allthough a nice possibility for those that like to tinker and tuning their devices as much as possible - but even without doing so, you will get a nice phone.

I'm planning to get one too so I just started to visit O2X threads. Currently on Motorola Milestone, but I'm sick of it's low RAM. Every new game is force closing. I'll wait for it to get cheaper in my country .

spawndk said:
In forums like these you will mostly read about the issues that some are having, because people tend to seek out these forums when they disover isues - the wast majority may not have any issues and dont post in forums like these. So regardless of which device you get, you will allways find alot of forum posts dealing with whatever bugs some users are facing. The number of issues and error posts for the LG isnt really that big, nothing out of the ordinary, and nothing you wont see just as many or more for ANY other device out there - single core or dual core.
Basically dont get scared off by these but only use it as a guide to perhaps seek for specific bugs which you would not be able to live with untill they get fixed by the manufacturer.
I have 2 LG optimus - one for myself and one for my teenager son
Both bought on the same day 6 weeks ago.
Mine has run completely stable and "errorfree" since day one - not a single random shutdown or lockup bsod - no issues with wifi, 3g or anything - has worked with every single app I tried, no batterydrain (easily get 2 days worth) etc. etc.
They are running completely stock with the only change being a different laucher (GO launcher) to solve the micro stutter in swyping between homescreens which the standard LG launcher has (just a very minor software issue).
The only issues I have left are 2 known issues - which for certain will be solved by some new LG update. One is the lag that happens while installing a new app from market - the other is the memory management which isnt completely optimised causing free memory to sometimes run a litle lower than wanted.
If you arent unlucky and get hit by the random shutdowns and bsod that some users are facing - then you do get a very nice future proof phone that isnt too expensive, and does most things pretty good allready - and will only get better as updates arrives
Imho, rooting and new roms arent really needed, allthough a nice possibility for those that like to tinker and tuning their devices as much as possible - but even without doing so, you will get a nice phone.
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You're probably right. I've read alot of threads. It's so weird, some have many problems with the phone and some have not. I really don't wanna have problems with reboots and wifi.
I'm still not sure if I should get it or not. I don't really see any other future proof alternatives in the same price range. The SGS2 is too expensive.
This is definitely not easy, maybe I should wait and see if they fix all problems. But IDK which phone I should get instead.

simonh94 said:
You're probably right. I've read alot of threads. It's so weird, some have many problems with the phone and some have not. I really don't wanna have problems with reboots and wifi.
I'm still not sure if I should get it or not. I don't really see any other future proof alternatives in the same price range. The SGS2 is too expensive.
This is definitely not easy, maybe I should wait and see if they fix all problems. But IDK which phone I should get instead.
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I've seen some reviews of SGS2 and it seems laggier than O2X. First I noticed that in Shrek Kart video (I've seen SGS2, than compared to O2X), after that it seemed that SGS2's launcher is laggy too -.-' ... maybe I just watched fake/bad reviews ^^.

Well i had phone for around 2 weeks and have not had any of the reboot issues as for batt draining if u ture of back ground data then this reduces it massivly, the handset is on of the best around. As for LG not doing update to solve problems i think that is unfair they do seem to be listerning with in a few days of me gettting hand set went from 10b to 10d. So i would say that if you want future proof device then this is the one and if you want game then its a no brainer

n3n00 said:
I've seen some reviews of SGS2 and it seems laggier than O2X. First I noticed that in Shrek Kart video (I've seen SGS2, than compared to O2X), after that it seemed that SGS2's launcher is laggy too -.-' ... maybe I just watched fake/bad reviews ^^.
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Okay, I haven't watch any review of that phone. Since it's too expensive.
tadman2010 said:
Well i had phone for around 2 weeks and have not had any of the reboot issues as for batt draining if u ture of back ground data then this reduces it massivly, the handset is on of the best around. As for LG not doing update to solve problems i think that is unfair they do seem to be listerning with in a few days of me gettting hand set went from 10b to 10d. So i would say that if you want future proof device then this is the one and if you want game then its a no brainer
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Alright. I think I'll get the O2X then. Though, I'm not gonna get it before they fixed these problems.

I read in a review that the OS takes about 300 mb ram.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/07/lg-optimus-2x-review/
So I have about 200 mb free for my apps. That doesn't sound much, but maybe it's enough? Well, this is going to be my first smartphone, so I don't really know how much RAM app takes.

simonh94 said:
I read in a review that the OS takes about 300 mb ram.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/07/lg-optimus-2x-review/
So I have about 200 mb free for my apps. That doesn't sound much, but maybe it's enough? Well, this is going to be my first smartphone, so I don't really know how much RAM the app takes.
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don´t worry about that this phone has more you need..

My Zio is making a quiet ringing sound

Ok So my phone has done this a couple of times. Basically what is happening is randomly my phone is making a standard ringing sound of 3 or 4 beeps (or so) a pause then the beeps again. This is completely different from the standard sounds i have set on my phone and when this ringing is happening i am not receiving a call nor am i receiving a text message. so far it just happens randomly and even when i put my phone into sleep mode it still rings requiring me to take the battery out to make it stop.
Has this happened to anyone before? what dose it mean exactly?

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Ok So my phone has done this a couple of times. Basically what is happening is randomly my phone is making a standard ringing sound of 3 or 4 beeps (or so) a pause then the beeps again. This is completely different from the standard sounds i have set on my phone and when this ringing is happening i am not receiving a call nor am i receiving a text message. so far it just happens randomly and even when i put my phone into sleep mode it still rings requiring me to take the battery out to make it stop.
Has this happened to anyone before? what dose it mean exactly?
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Happened to me until a factory reset. Came back though after reinstalling my apps. You can stop it by making a call. It is a little easier than removing the battery. Still annoying though. I think it could have started after an app was moved to the SD card, so I batch moved everything to the internal storage except for some games. Has not happened for a couple days, but I would not be surprised if it came back. I wish I knew what caused this.

Sprint ZIO or Cricket ZIO?
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Happened with me, too, on the Cricket Zio. Still searching for a solution. Doesn't seem to be a Zio specific problem, though. I read somewhere that it was happening on the Motorola Droid as well.

Mattix724 said:
Sprint ZIO or Cricket ZIO?
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weeel the picture under my name says sprint soooo. lol

The XDA app doesn't show it. Please don't insinuate that anyone here is stupid. I, for one, don't appreciate it, and neither does anyone else. WE are trying to help YOU, and we ask questions for a reason. A clear, simple answer is what you should give when asked a question IF you want our help.
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Quite ringing sound
This happens on the Cricket zio as well. It normally happens when you are in a low signal area for any extended period of time. Normally rebooting or making a phone call will stop it. As to why it is happening I have no idea however I do recall this was a problem on one of the old kyocera slider phone I had in the past.

Is there any point in digging into this? It's beginning to happen to me a lot (as my coverage at home sucks despite living in downtown Charlotte).
Every problem has a solution but I'm wondering if the new OC'ed kernel will eliminate it.

One can only hope.
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despite living in downtown Charlotte.
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Charlotte NC ? I live in Kannapolis.

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The XDA app doesn't show it. Please don't insinuate that anyone here is stupid. I, for one, don't appreciate it, and neither does anyone else. WE are trying to help YOU, and we ask questions for a reason. A clear, simple answer is what you should give when asked a question IF you want our help.
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WOH calm down sir. i don't appreciate how you are treating me right here. i guess you think everyone on this site has used the XDA app. well i have never used it before. therefor i did not know that thos images showing whos carrier is being used weren't shown.
you are a very rude person.

hofuldig said:
WOH calm down sir. i don't appreciate how you are treating me right here. i guess you think everyone on this site has used the XDA app. well i have never used it before. therefor i did not know that thos images showing whos carrier is being used weren't shown.
you are a very rude person.
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Can we stay on task here and stop with the petty squabbling. Nobody cares how anybody reads the forums but being a smart-a$$ about it will ultimately result in this sort of argument.
Fact is, that we're trying to address an issue here. And to that point, my phone is still making the ringing noise, even with the new OpenZIO ROM. How can that be?
My guess is that the ringing noise is tied up somewhere not on the typical hard-drive of the phone. Kinda like a beeping mechanism on a computer motherboard. And since somebody reported that it happened on an older Kyocera phone, that only furthers my theory in this.
Evidently, it seems to be triggered in poor reception.

mattpedigo said:
Evidently, it seems to be triggered in poor reception.
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This much I know is 100% correct. The first time it happened to me and my wife we were traveling to the beach and this happened while we were in "Dead Zones" and now it happens to me on a daily basis on my commute to and from work. I drive through a lot of "Dead Zones".

Fate43 said:
This much I know is 100% correct. The first time it happened to me and my wife we were traveling to the beach and this happened while we were in "Dead Zones" and now it happens to me on a daily basis on my commute to and from work. I drive through a lot of "Dead Zones".
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A lot of dead zones in the Charlotte area? Where are you commuting to and from?

I have also had this issue a couple of times while running rooted 2.2.
I too was in a poor signal zone. An interesting fact is that when I would adjust the volume while it was making the funny sound, it would say that it was adjusting call volume not ringer volume. It was a while ago since it happened last, but I'm also pretty sure the sound comes from the ear speaker and not the louder back speaker, which is why the sound is so soft.

I'm having the same issue!
I'm having a hard time isolating what application could be causing this. It probably doesn't help that I'm EXTREMELY new to this forum.

also having this issue
this happens to me also in a low signal area.. it happens at 5am and again at 9pm. i'm home way before 9pm so i don't know what the signifigance of that may be?

You have all been hax0rd!!! Mwuaaahahahaa!!!
Just kidding.
I have never had this issue before. You could try installing my ROM to see if that fixes the issue?f
**edit: just read upwards -- appears that someone has already tried installing the ROM.
This leads me to believe that it could be a hardware issue.
Perhaps you can take it in for an exchange?

ROM won't fix it. I was having the issue on stock 2.12 as well. It did not start till the update so has to be a bug in the OS.
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Take your phone back to cricket for an exchange (provided you can reproduce the sound to a rep).
Be sure to flash a stock rom to ur phone or they wont touch you.

[Q] Touchscreen Lag IncS

Hey folks,
I'm experiencing with my IS, as mentioned in the title, an input lag of the touchscreen. It is not really disturbing, but the fact, that my friends Wildfire recognizes the input better, with Stock 2.1 ROM installed, bothers me really
In the moment I'm S-off on Android Revolution HD 1.1.2, which has a slightly better input than stock 2.3.3, but it is still there. Please tell me, if you are experiencing similar problems.
thanks Max

Only thing I've noticed so far is that if you drag slowly In some applications (like the browser, doesn't matter which browser I'm using) it doesn't scroll at all... but in the settings menu I can swipe downwards as slow as I want to, so I guess what I'm experiencing is software related...
What I really want to know is if I'm alone, or if there has noticed the same thing
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with my IcS... ive noticed that certain parts of my screen at the randomest times will stop recognizing input.... for me this happens exactly at the O and N key... after leaving it for a few seconds... it starts working again so not much of an issue to me...
there is an app in market place called touchscreen booster... maybe apply that and see if that helps u change the sensitivity...

danial.aw said:
with my IcS... ive noticed that certain parts of my screen at the randomest times will stop recognizing input.... for me this happens exactly at the O and N key... after leaving it for a few seconds... it starts working again so not much of an issue to me...
there is an app in market place called touchscreen booster... maybe apply that and see if that helps u change the sensitivity...
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thanks for the advice danial.aw. I tried your method, but the only touchscreen booster app i found in the market was for SGS, so that hadn't had any effect
Keeps annoying me buying a 500$ phone that has such a crappy touchscreen...

Sounds to me like you might have a faulty unit if it's bad with both stock and custom ROMs. Never had any issue with mine.

doctorsax said:
Sounds to me like you might have a faulty unit if it's bad with both stock and custom ROMs. Never had any issue with mine.
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any chance I get warranty for that? the lag is really minimal

Infinite104 said:
any chance I get warranty for that? the lag is really minimal
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Not a clue I'm afraid. Always worth asking them I suppose.

well yes it says thats its for SGS only... but the app worked on my Atrix when i had it... so im assuming it might actually help more phones than that... try it out and see...

Doesn't make any difference no matter what i set in the app. I will drive to a store today to see if it might be subjective but I don't think so.
Edit: well it's not only subjective, I'll give the warranty a try, lets see how the will react

wooh got all of my money back, I'm moving to WP7 now. Android hasnt persuaded me...maybe again when 4.0 comes out.

Infinite104 said:
wooh got all of my money back, I'm moving to WP7 now. Android hasnt persuaded me...maybe again when 4.0 comes out.
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If you are leaving android id probably recommend waiting for the next iPhone not wp7
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God WP7 is woeful, the mango update had better fix/add a lot of features...

No I've tested the one from my sister for already two months and I'm very content with WP7. A Phone should be fast and I'm not really into Apple's politics.

You will be in microsofts politics though. WP7 is as closed down as ios. At least with apple you get a good warranty service.
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More people need to star and comment on this issue: touchscreen issue

http://code.google.com/p/android/is...s Owner Summary Stars&groupby=&sort=&id=39892
it's pretty sad that there's only 45 votes on this issue. Here's a hint: bugs won't get fixed if people don't speak up about them. And don't think your voice exactly resonates here on XDA.
Just star it, and leave a comment. Doesn't have to be anything long winded either.
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Maybe most of us just don't consider it a problem that needs fixing? I get bounce back on a number of different screens but I just swipe again, the world is not going to end because of it.

Troute said:
Maybe most of us just don't consider it a problem that needs fixing? I get bounce back on a number of different screens but I just swipe again, the world is not going to end because of it.
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While agree it's not the end of the world, it's a complaint I see often here in kernel and ROM threads. While a lot of it is due to wonky behavior due to OC (either CPU or GPU), it's really just exacerbating an issue that is already present.
Besides, UI bugs are some of the most prevalent and immediately noticeable to more "common" end users. While functionally it's not debilitating, it's an aesthetic scar that doesn't need to be there.
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Hmmm.. So I assume it doesn't matter that I need exactly 15 seconds everytime I get a notification to pull down the status bar, caused by flipbacks. Okay I'm like 1000% sure Google noticed it anyway, cause its on most devices, also 100% stock ones (like me) so...
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The scrolling drives me crazy indeed. We shouldn't have to "make sure we're doing an exact certain way" just in order for it not to bounce back. It should just work, correctly, like our sgs3/gnex/etc...
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jbdan said:
The scrolling drives me crazy indeed. We shouldn't have to "make sure we're doing an exact certain way" just in order for it not to bounce back. It should just work, correctly, like our sgs3/gnex/etc...
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If it would bounce back after a reboot one time, I wouldn't care, but its always there, it doesn't matter what I do, it bounces every time... So its a bit annoying.. This is the only thing which sometimes makes me want to throw the 7 at a wall...
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Thanks OP, have added my star.

I had not noticed this problem but I was intrigued.
I could not duplicate the problem, but I am using Apex launcher, not the stock launcher. Does the problem occur in all launchers? Also I am not using the stock ROM.
I wonder if this problem happens with only some units, or perhaps it relates to those user's expectations. Maybe they expect their device to react more quickly than it is able to.
Far be it for me to be dismissive of people's satisfaction with their devices, but that bug-report thread has a lot of problems. It contains over-reaching claims and supposed knowledge of the problem's causes and solutions.
Again, I don't write off these people's unhappiness but I personally would not star that issue.

i too have this problem when on stock rom..now on PA beta 9 with m-kernel, the problem still exist...and it's very annoying...i even thought there was a problem with my touch screen panel and sent it to asus for repair but when i got it back, the same problem still remains..

Not starring because it does not bother me.
Life has too many other issues to worry about having to occasionally re-swipe.
Now pop-up ads in the Yahoo app could get me started...

squshy 7 said:
Come on guys, with all the members here and all the people who like to complain, it's pretty sad that there's only 45 votes on this issue.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1801464
Well over 500 people have voted to say they have a shonky screen, either one fault, several or all listed.
If Asus & Google don't by now know that there is a serious problem with QC of the actual screen and with the build quality then no amount of petitioning will work.

I noticed this issue minutes after pulling this thing out of the box, this might not bother you people who casually use their tablets, but top those of us who have been using android since the G1 notice this. It bothers me so much that I am considering taking this junk back and using the money to get a real tablet from Samsung.
This issue is so annoying to me, I not only notice it on the stock launcher, but also Nova and Apex. Now, the launcher I can deal with, but where I becomes a deal breaker for me is the browser, whether it's chrome or the stock browser in CM10. Trying to scroll around the OS that requires some flicking reminds me of trying to flick scroll on a resistive touch screen, I think that best describes the issue.
I just wanna know if it's fixable through a software update or a hardware problem, cause if it's the latter, this thing is going back, and that's too bad because it was a Santa gift, so I'll have some explaining to do.......

compact_bijou said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1801464
Well over 500 people have voted to say they have a shonky screen, either one fault, several or all listed.
If Asus & Google don't by now know that there is a serious problem with QC of the actual screen and with the build quality then no amount of petitioning will work.
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As I stated (not in precise terms sorry) in the OP, it would be a mistake to think that xda threads are the first place companies like Google and Asus check to see what issues people are having. They have issue and bug trackers for a reason. The universe does not revolve around our little community.
Also, this issue pertains to the general consensus that touch screen issues (like bounce back) have become exacerbated on 4.2 and above. Not anything regarding physical QC issues (though, to be fair, may very well be the root cause, but that is an entirely different issue; the fact of the matter remains that anecdotally it appears the touchscreen responded better on 4.1.2)
And besides, I'm just looking out for the well being of this device's future. Reporting bugs on bug trackers is important to these developers.
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to be honest, this annoys me a lot.
starred and commented.

This really annoys me as well. I voted and commented. Hopefully they can get this fixed soon. Otherwise I might switch to CM10.
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This really annoys me too, and its not just the launcher its system wide, my s3 is so much nicer to scroll on, i have tried a few different roms & kernels and also cm10.1 and they all have this issue, anyone found a solution/rom that dosnt have this scroll bounce back issue?

leonclement said:
This really annoys me too, and its not just the launcher its system wide, my s3 is so much nicer to scroll on, i have tried a few different roms & kernels and also cm10.1 and they all have this issue, anyone found a solution/rom that dosnt have this scroll bounce back issue?
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It seems to have been fixed somewhat (at least for me) on stock 4.2.2.

farmerbb said:
It seems to have been fixed somewhat (at least for me) on stock 4.2.2.
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Yea the notification bar is better on 4.2.2, but the launcher still does it, nova prime does it too, and even when on dolphin or boat browser sometimes when you flick it will scroll nicely & sometimes a flick wont move the page much at all, weird and annoying, would be a much better experience if it was fixed!

This is a huge issue for me. Is there a way to increase or decrease sensitivity? Maybe that would help.
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Interesting, I thought I was the only one who had noticed this. Don't know why I haven't seen this thread earlier.
For me I solved this by using apex launcher, somehow you never get those annoying jumpbacks. I tried nova launcher as well but it worked as bad as the original launcher. Going to star tomorrow.
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Replacement = Even more problems.

Had a n6 with half purple screen and had it exchanged.
This new one is horrible ..
It seems to get really warm compared to the other and when it does, boy does it lag. Just typing this out, it's lagging.
I also noticed that my Bluetooth has "silence" spots while listening to music. Every 2-3 minutes, it will stop for a split second like it can't buffer, even if the music is on the device.
Another thing that may just be me, it seems the keyboard doesn't predict as well, like it's not even touching the keys I'm swiping.
Lastly, half the screen is white and half is a really yellow color. Very irritated by this device. Makes me want to throw it against a wall.

Your first problem can be resolved by using a custom kernel that does not use mpdecision. Mpdecision is known to be power inefficient and sends your CPU to be sitting in wasteful frequencies causing your phone to generate additional heat. My phone became really warm with mpdecision on.
Secondly, I don't use bluetooth so I can't comment.
Third. That isn't a N6 problem, its a problem with the software of the keyboard application that you're using. SwiftKey works great for me.
Fourth, can't really comment on that. My screen looks good, your phone should be uniformly the same color, you can try changing RGB and see if it would do anything. I recommend turning off adaptive brightness.

Good suggestions I suppose.
Only problem with those, I'm not gonna root or use a custom kernel. The last n6 only had a faulty screen and no other problems. That one didn't need any custom root activities.

20degrees said:
Good suggestions I suppose.
Only problem with those, I'm not gonna root or use a custom kernel. The last n6 only had a faulty screen and no other problems. That one didn't need any custom root activities.
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If you don't root, or use ROM's then why post about it on a developer forum? I'm not trying to be rude just wondering why here. If it has more issue call moto and have them send a new one. My RMA phone is fine 0 issues so far and I'm happy with it.

This is a user forum as well as a developer forum.
I'm posting here to show there is problems with these phones.
Why does it matter to you?

If you are having those problems on stock, and don't want to root/etc, then your only option is to return it again. Pretty simple.
If you are looking for confirmation that your experience isn't 'normal' on the stock phone, I can confirm it is not.

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This is a user forum as well as a developer forum.
I'm posting here to show there is problems with these phones.
Why does it matter to you?
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I'm not trying to argue at all I was just curious. I would have the phone replaced if you want to gave those issues fixed without modifying the phone. Best of luck with the issues because it's not fun when you can't fix them.

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If you don't root, or use ROM's then why post about it on a developer forum? I'm not trying to be rude just wondering why here. If it has more issue call moto and have them send a new one. My RMA phone is fine 0 issues so far and I'm happy with it.
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I scratch my head also. XDA is a developer's forum. There are tons of other sites more suitable to those not wanting to root/ROM it up.

Sounds good. Let's discuss dbrand skins and the such.
I doubt this has anything to do with memory leaks or anything that's been discussed on lollipop.

I'd say you have a faulty SOC and I would replace it. My wife had similar issues on an S5 where it would stutter and fall behind almost and get warm. The icing on the cake was while taking video, normal 1080p video, and it would drop frames like crazy. Maybe 22fps or so was al, it was getting.

I actually agree with 20degrees on this one... There are tons of non development/customization threads on here, and XDA has a pretty knowledgeable user base so it is a convenient one stop shop for info.
People just need to ignore/keep their comments to themselves in the Q&A and general sections if they have nothing constructive to add to the topic of the thread.