I'm an android ROM newbie, but an old computer geek from way back in the 80's, so I do have some kind of understanding. I own an ATT Note 3.
I've experienced only minor problems with the two main ROM flash tools, that is, Safestrap 3.x and Odin 3.x but that's probably my fault and they don't crash. But Safestrap? Oy vay! That works also, but in the final boot, black screen thereafter, after booting from ANY slot, whether it be stock slot of other slots. Thank God for the backup function and Odin.
But I digress. Right in the beginning of my flashing Odyssey, everything worked fine! Flashed Alliance ROM no problem, as well as Dynamic Kat.
Oh yeah. Confused about all those two letter abbreviations, there's no abbreviation key here on the forums?
I tried the other ROMS in the Note 3 Rom sections and stuck wit that, but then, under Safestrap, the machine would reboot to black screen! No matter what I did, wiping, rooting (of course), re-installing different versions of SafeStrap, from early 3.x versions to 3.75, nothing! Odin gets my machine back to it's (I THINK) original state.
Badly confused. Knox is fine at 0x0. Don't know how to move forward. I would like to continue to try different ROMS but the same thing keeps on happening. Hope someone can help me. If anyone wants some kind of log output, I can do that (just tell me how and where).
Thanks
David Sanborn said:
I'm an android ROM newbie, but an old computer geek from way back in the 80's, so I do have some kind of understanding. I own an ATT Note 3.
I've experienced only minor problems with the two main ROM flash tools, that is, Safestrap 3.x and Odin 3.x but that's probably my fault and they don't crash. But Safestrap? Oy vay! That works also, but in the final boot, black screen thereafter, after booting from ANY slot, whether it be stock slot of other slots. Thank God for the backup function and Odin.
But I digress. Right in the beginning of my flashing Odyssey, everything worked fine! Flashed Alliance ROM no problem, as well as Dynamic Kat.
I tried the other ROMS in the Note 3 Rom sections and stuck wit that, but then, under Safestrap, the machine would reboot to black screen! No matter what I did, wiping, rooting (of course), re-installing different versions of SafeStrap, from early 3.x versions to 3.75, nothing! Odin gets my machine back to it's (I THINK) original state.
Badly confused. Knox is fine at 0x0. Don't know how to move forward. I would like to continue to try different ROMS but the same thing keeps on happening. Hope someone can help me. If anyone wants some kind of log output, I can do that (just tell me how and where).
Thanks
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Sounds like maybe your flashing kit kat over jellybean or the other way around. Make sure if you have going to different android versions you flash the right Odin files each time. And install the right right version of safe strape. Or you get black screens
David Sanborn said:
I'm an android ROM newbie, but an old computer geek from way back in the 80's, so I do have some kind of understanding. I own an ATT Note 3.
I've experienced only minor problems with the two main ROM flash tools, that is, Safestrap 3.x and Odin 3.x but that's probably my fault and they don't crash. But Safestrap? Oy vay! That works also, but in the final boot, black screen thereafter, after booting from ANY slot, whether it be stock slot of other slots. Thank God for the backup function and Odin.
But I digress. Right in the beginning of my flashing Odyssey, everything worked fine! Flashed Alliance ROM no problem, as well as Dynamic Kat.
Oh yeah. Confused about all those two letter abbreviations, there's no abbreviation key here on the forums?
I tried the other ROMS in the Note 3 Rom sections and stuck wit that, but then, under Safestrap, the machine would reboot to black screen! No matter what I did, wiping, rooting (of course), re-installing different versions of SafeStrap, from early 3.x versions to 3.75, nothing! Odin gets my machine back to it's (I THINK) original state.
Badly confused. Knox is fine at 0x0. Don't know how to move forward. I would like to continue to try different ROMS but the same thing keeps on happening. Hope someone can help me. If anyone wants some kind of log output, I can do that (just tell me how and where).
Thanks
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We have two versions of safestrap and each one works with a different OS.
1.Safestrap 3.71: that works ONLY with jellybean roms. Use it (If your phone says "4.3 MI9, MJ5, or NB4" in your "about phone" in settings) to flash any jellybean rom. Read the title of any rom you're attempting to flash. If it says "4.4.2 KK or Kitkat or NC2" then stay away.
2. Safestrap 3.72/3.75 ([emoji118] this is recommended) that works ONLY with Kitkat roms. Use it (If your phone says "4.4.2 NC2" in your "about phone" in settings) to flash any Kitkat/NC2 rom. Read the title of any rom you're attempting to flash. If it says "4.3 jellybean or JB" then stay away.
K-alz said:
We have two versions of safestrap and each one works with a different OS.
1.Safestrap 3.71: that works ONLY with jellybean roms. Use it (If your phone says "4.3 MI9, MJ5, or NB4" in your "about phone" in settings) to flash any jellybean rom. Read the title of any rom you're attempting to flash. If it says "4.4.2 KK or Kitkat or NC2" then stay away.
2. Safestrap 3.72/3.75 ([emoji118] this is recommended) that works ONLY with Kitkat roms. Use it (If your phone says "4.4.2 NC2" in your "about phone" in settings) to flash any Kitkat/NC2 rom. Read the title of any rom you're attempting to flash. If it says "4.3 jellybean or JB" then stay away.
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basicaly what he said.. and since you said you did dynamic kat and alliance.. sounds like you are on the nc2 with Kitkat..
So, best bet is going to be make sure you have ss 3.75 and only flash the kitkat roms.. Dynamic kat, Alliance, Tweaked, Firekat, and you should be fine.. just dont try and flash any that are JB
From my Fired-up Note Pro 12.2!
Thank you. A combo of Android version AND baseband at the end?
Are the version numbers I'm looking for, a combination of the Android version (4.4.2) and the end of the Baseband number (NC2)
Basically I tried everything and your suggestions should very very suspiciously like everything I've done But.. I will give it one more shot.
Any possibility of SafeStrap 3.72 would work as opposed to 3.75 not working?
warfenix said:
Sounds like maybe your flashing kit kat over jellybean or the other way around. Make sure if you have going to different android versions you flash the right Odin files each time. And install the right right version of safe strape. Or you get black screens
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Version 4.42. I'll give everything a shot here although, I've tried all of this but maybe I've missed something. Thank you for responding.
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Sounds like maybe your flashing kit kat over jellybean or the other way around. Make sure if you have going to different android versions you flash the right Odin files each time. And install the right right version of safe strape. Or you get black screens
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bodycode said:
Are the version numbers I'm looking for, a combination of the Android version (4.4.2) and the end of the Baseband number (NC2)
Basically I tried everything and your suggestions should very very suspiciously like everything I've done But.. I will give it one more shot.
Any possibility of SafeStrap 3.72 would work as opposed to 3.75 not working?
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Version 4.42. I'll give everything a shot here although, I've tried all of this but maybe I've missed something. Thank you for responding.
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yeah if you are seeing 4.4.2 and nc2 you are on KK.. just make sure you are on 3.75 and all should be ok with flashing..
if for some reason it is borked,, go down to carls thread for odin files and how to odin back to stock nc2 and then start over and you should be fine
From my Fired-up Note Pro 12.2!
NO good. 3.75/stock slot/Alliance ROM fails.
Same ****. Black screen.
David Sanborn said:
I'm an android ROM newbie, but an old computer geek from way back in the 80's, so I do have some kind of understanding. I own an ATT Note 3.
I've experienced only minor problems with the two main ROM flash tools, that is, Safestrap 3.x and Odin 3.x but that's probably my fault and they don't crash. But Safestrap? Oy vay! That works also, but in the final boot, black screen thereafter, after booting from ANY slot, whether it be stock slot of other slots. Thank God for the backup function and Odin.
But I digress. Right in the beginning of my flashing Odyssey, everything worked fine! Flashed Alliance ROM no problem, as well as Dynamic Kat.
Oh yeah. Confused about all those two letter abbreviations, there's no abbreviation key here on the forums?
I tried the other ROMS in the Note 3 Rom sections and stuck wit that, but then, under Safestrap, the machine would reboot to black screen! No matter what I did, wiping, rooting (of course), re-installing different versions of SafeStrap, from early 3.x versions to 3.75, nothing! Odin gets my machine back to it's (I THINK) original state.
Badly confused. Knox is fine at 0x0. Don't know how to move forward. I would like to continue to try different ROMS but the same thing keeps on happening. Hope someone can help me. If anyone wants some kind of log output, I can do that (just tell me how and where).
Thanks
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NO good. 3.75 fails!
3.75 and Alliance utterly fails into black screen. Safestrap reboot screen does this, but the other button (restore) gets me back to all the other buttons. Stock slot has size of zero partition size after alliance installation.
warfenix said:
Sounds like maybe your flashing kit kat over jellybean or the other way around. Make sure if you have going to different android versions you flash the right Odin files each time. And install the right right version of safe strape. Or you get black screens
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AFter creating another slot and wipe, system mounting errors.
System mount errors all over the place after creating another slot, and installing Alliance. What's going on here? Something's really screwed up.
e: unable to mount '/system'
e: unable to mount '/systemorig'
over and over again
Can't check permissions after FActory reset. Please boot rom and try again after you reboot into recovery.
David Sanborn said:
3.75 and Alliance utterly fails into black screen. Safestrap reboot screen does this, but the other button (restore) gets me back to all the other buttons. Stock slot has size of zero partition size after alliance installation.
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David Sanborn said:
3.75 and Alliance utterly fails into black screen. Safestrap reboot screen does this, but the other button (restore) gets me back to all the other buttons. Stock slot has size of zero partition size after alliance installation.
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I would simply restore back to mj5 and start over. I did this last night simply to reset my phone cause I flash way to much lol. I would give that a try though. Thread is in the general section
How to restore to Mj5?
How do I downgrade to Mj5 from KK4.2?
Thanks
warfenix said:
I would simply restore back to mj5 and start over. I did this last night simply to reset my phone cause I flash way to much lol. I would give that a try though. Thread is in the general section
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David Sanborn said:
How do I downgrade to Mj5 from KK4.2?
Thanks
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2559715
I know what your problem is brother. This same crap happened to me. To a T! For some reason when u wipe system in safesteap, it wipes everything out. EVERYTHING. except data. I learned the hard way,like u. So when u flash roms, don't wipe system, only factory reset. I wipe it 3× every time. Then install your Rom. You will b fine. I haven't had one problem ever since I stopped wiping system. And no random reboots or anything, Roms now flash, and boot as they should. Hope this helps.
David Sanborn said:
How do I downgrade to Mj5 from KK4.2?
Thanks
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Dude. If you're on NC2 then don't ever do the MJ5. It'll give the same problem. Just Odin the first four files from this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2838117 then root with towelroot/install busybox (make sure to install it from within the app as well) then install ss 3.72 or 3.75 then start flashing Kitkat roms.
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Dude. If you're on NC2 then don't ever do the MJ5. It'll give the same problem. Just Odin the first four files from this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2838117 then root with towelroot/install busybox (make sure to install it from within the app as well) then install ss 3.72 or 3.75 then start flashing Kitkat roms.
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True but I think his problem is wiping system when he installs roms. If he's still not able to boot up right then ya he needs to use Odin and those files to get up and running again.
I just wish it was like the note 2. With unlocked bootloader and real twrp recovery.
zounduser said:
True but I think his problem is wiping system when he installs roms. If he's still not able to boot up right then ya he needs to use Odin and those files to get up and running again.
I just wish it was like the note 2. With unlocked bootloader and real twrp recovery.
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These four files are as easy as it gets. Literally, put phone into download mode, load files to their respective slots then hit start. That's all. Saves you much bullshiz
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These four files are as easy as it gets. Literally, put phone into download mode, load files to their respective slots then hit start. That's all. Saves you much bullshiz
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Oh I agree. I've had to do it. I'm saying going forward so it doesn't happen again.
4 files in odin flash, done that 15 times.
I've flashed Odin stock COUNTLESS times! When I go back to flash kitkat ROMS, same **** all over again. Unbelievable. I'm at my wits end. My phone DOES boot with the Odin files. But when flashing anything else with safestrap, black screen again.
K-alz said:
These four files are as easy as it gets. Literally, put phone into download mode, load files to their respective slots then hit start. That's all. Saves you much bullshiz
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David Sanborn said:
I've flashed Odin stock COUNTLESS times! When I go back to flash kitkat ROMS, same **** all over again. Unbelievable. I'm at my wits end. My phone DOES boot with the Odin files. But when flashing anything else with safestrap, black screen again.
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You used the files in the thread I gave you a couple of posts back and it didn't work? Man I hope you still have your warranty. Just flash back to stock and take your phone to the AT&T warranty center and make up and issue with your phone and tell them that you can't deal with your phone anymore and get you a new phone. They believe about anything. If that didn't work then head to bestbuy if there is one by you and ask them to reflash the system for you (that's of course after you flash back to stock).
Not a block screen on Odin and no trips.
Did I mention Odin works fine? Knox is not tripped. All is well right after Odin upload to phone in Download mode. It's only when I flash anything that blackscreen curses me again. heh heh.
K-alz said:
You used the files in the thread I gave you a couple of posts back and it didn't work? Man I hope you still have your warranty. Just flash back to stock and take your phone to the AT&T warranty center and make up and issue with your phone and tell them that you can't deal with your phone anymore and get you a new phone. They believe about anything. If that didn't work then head to bestbuy if there is one by you and ask them to reflash the system for you (that's of course after you flash back to stock).
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OK it's been a while and I have screwed up some stuff.
I have the att note 3 and I"m rooted running 4.3 build NB4. I had some stuff frozen and xposed things setup. Been running fine and really haven't messed with anything for 6-7 months. I'm selling the phone and told the person buying it I would leave it on 4.3 stock rooted.
So I just did a factory reset / wipe cache. Now when it boots up I get a samsung keyboard force close error and can't do anything until I change to something else. I figure there will be other issues also, I realize now I should have undone things, but it's to late.
So what do people recommend. My first thought was to somehow flash the NB4 files, but i don't have custom recovery.
So any suggestions, steps or files would be much appreciated.
Can you not just odin to reflash it back to stock 4.3?
Maybe but i cant locate the files to odin and im not that famaliar with how to use odin. Can some provide a liitle guidance.
cd23murray said:
OK it's been a while and I have screwed up some stuff.
I have the att note 3 and I"m rooted running 4.3 build NB4. I had some stuff frozen and xposed things setup. Been running fine and really haven't messed with anything for 6-7 months. I'm selling the phone and told the person buying it I would leave it on 4.3 stock rooted.
So I just did a factory reset / wipe cache. Now when it boots up I get a samsung keyboard force close error and can't do anything until I change to something else. I figure there will be other issues also, I realize now I should have undone things, but it's to late.
So what do people recommend. My first thought was to somehow flash the NB4 files, but i don't have custom recovery.
So any suggestions, steps or files would be much appreciated.
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I don't think you will find it NB4 build for odin. I was looking for firmware for some time and had no success. You need to get back to NI9 than find update NI9 to MJ5 and then MJ5 to NB4. So i will suggest find this updates so you can sideload after you get stock NI9. and i think you have all files you need to do this here : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=51468226&postcount=10
I have read several post on how to root my ATT n900a and using safestrap. I have rooted tons of androids all have used CWM , twrp , and such. This phone seems to be a little more difficult to install custom roms. When I got the phone it was on 4.4.4 so I downgraded wot 4.4.2 added root and safestrap and all was good. I then booted into safestrap and installed 4.4.4 with root. this was succesfull as well, but when ever i go to safestrap app and press reboot to recovery it does nothing. i tried installing and reinstalling. NO go. What i was going to do was boot to safestrap and then flash lollipop, but cant get into bootstrap. My question is would it just be easier to go from 4.4.2 straight to lollipop or what is the easiest way to get their. Also Im a fan of aosp, but im not to sure that this would be best route because of spen and what not. Is there a TW lollipop version and if so what is the best way to get it? I tried to update OTA before i flashed anything and it said i was on most recent at 4.4.4. Sorry for newb questions, but this phone has really confused me. Android was so much easier to root and flash when they first came out and it seems like the newer phones are getting harder.
pitmanr2003 said:
I have read several post on how to root my ATT n900a and using safestrap. I have rooted tons of androids all have used CWM , twrp , and such. This phone seems to be a little more difficult to install custom roms. When I got the phone it was on 4.4.4 so I downgraded wot 4.4.2 added root and safestrap and all was good. I then booted into safestrap and installed 4.4.4 with root. this was succesfull as well, but when ever i go to safestrap app and press reboot to recovery it does nothing. i tried installing and reinstalling. NO go. What i was going to do was boot to safestrap and then flash lollipop, but cant get into bootstrap. My question is would it just be easier to go from 4.4.2 straight to lollipop or what is the easiest way to get their. Also Im a fan of aosp, but im not to sure that this would be best route because of spen and what not. Is there a TW lollipop version and if so what is the best way to get it? I tried to update OTA before i flashed anything and it said i was on most recent at 4.4.4. Sorry for newb questions, but this phone has really confused me. Android was so much easier to root and flash when they first came out and it seems like the newer phones are getting harder.
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If you are still on 4.4.4 then you need this Kernel Flasher http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-3-att/development/nc2-flasher-app-unsafe-t2989141 just install as an app. When you run it grant Supersu and then tap, tap to boot (Pic 1) that will get you to Safestrap. If you are just flashing and not going to flash Lollipop you will need the NL1 Kernel from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-3-att/general/wip-getting-note4-norma-n9005-running-t2978346 (Pic 2) put in on your sd card and flash it with Safestrap to get your Rom to boot back up. If you want Rooted Lollipop http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=59666958&postcount=2 it's the easiest way I seen. Thanks @benwaffle @carl1961 @Walter.White
Rooted i747 said:
If you are still on 4.4.4 then you need this Kernel Flasher http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-3-att/development/nc2-flasher-app-unsafe-t2989141 just install as an app. When you run it grant Supersu and then tap, tap to boot (Pic 1) that will get you to Safestrap. If you are just flashing and not going to flash Lollipop you will need the NL1 Kernel from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-3-att/general/wip-getting-note4-norma-n9005-running-t2978346 (Pic 2) put in on your sd card and flash it with Safestrap to get your Rom to boot back up. If you want Rooted Lollipop http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=59666958&postcount=2 it's the easiest way I seen. Thanks @benwaffle @carl1961 @Walter.White
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thanks im a fan of lollipop have it on my s4. The method you show was the one i was trying to do, but couldnt get to safestrap. im back at 4.4.2 now can i just flash right to lollipop from there and not have to deal with going 4..4.4 first? Also is this a TW lollipop?
pitmanr2003 said:
thanks im a fan of lollipop have it on my s4. The method you show was the one i was trying to do, but couldnt get to safestrap. im back at 4.4.2 now can i just flash right to lollipop from there and not have to deal with going 4..4.4 first? Also is this a TW lollipop?
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Yea you can just flash it right from 4.4.2 and it's just the stock lollipop just rooted with tw.
Hey guys,
Basically today I was getting tired of the android 5.0 install I had running on my S5 so I figured I would reinstall 4.4.2 via Odin - a process which I had done a few times previously. I didn't really think about the fact that I was going from one version of the OS to another, and whether this would create an issue, but it has. My phone now loads up the samsung logo, but doesn't finish the animation and then freezes. A few seconds later, the screen will go black and the LED on the top of the phone will just glow blue. The phone will sit like this forever, and never boot. I have tried re-installing the AP in Odin a few times, all of which show pass in Odin, but to no avail. I have also wiped all data and the cache within the recovery. I don't know where to go from here. Any suggestions?
Thanks
Philpro said:
Hey guys,
Basically today I was getting tired of the android 5.0 install I had running on my S5 so I figured I would reinstall 4.4.2 via Odin - a process which I had done a few times previously. I didn't really think about the fact that I was going from one version of the OS to another, and whether this would create an issue, but it has. My phone now loads up the samsung logo, but doesn't finish the animation and then freezes. A few seconds later, the screen will go black and the LED on the top of the phone will just glow blue. The phone will sit like this forever, and never boot. I have tried re-installing the AP in Odin a few times, all of which show pass in Odin, but to no avail. I have also wiped all data and the cache within the recovery. I don't know where to go from here. Any suggestions?
Thanks
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I think you need to find the lollipop kernel. But I'm not 100 percent sure.
try opening kies with your phone connected and look for a menu option to the effect of restore/repair device
sent from my galaxy a5 (SM-G900AZ) on Cricket
I'm not sure if this helps you or not, but I did the same thing, trying to downgrade. I did not take the OTA update when I went from KitKat to Lollipop, instead I flashed one of the Lollipop ROMs, so be wary of that. If you took the OTA update, I don't know if this will work for you.
Anyways, I spent the better half of a day trying different kernels and stock ROMs using the factory recovery etc and nothing was working, each time I would either end up frozen at the Samsung screen or the initial splash screen when you power the phone on. I found this thread here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/att...w-to-update-to-g900aoca-5-0-keeproot-t3076803
Under "notes", step 4 I downloaded the file G900A_Downgrade_to_NCE.tar and flashed through Odin. This is the file that got me out of this hole, so maybe it will work for you as well. After flashing, it rebooted and went past the Samsung screen to the initial first time setup screen. Looks like this put me back at stock UNrooted 4.4.2.
Good luck, hope this helps someone else out.
Wait, are you saying that you updated your phone using the stock recovery? Were you rooted? @mangomango
Its_Tim said:
Wait, are you saying that you updated your phone using the stock recovery? Were you rooted? @mangomango
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I flashed through Odin, but yes I was rooted when I went from KK to LP.
I purchased an AT&T sm-g900a that was supposed to come with 4.4.2 according to info on site and sticker on the box indicated it originally had 4.4.2 on it too. I have no way of knowing if someone flashed it with the whole 5.0 file or just updated it. It was sold to me as a new and unlocked phone, and I got a good deal. The phone looks new with an AT&T screen cover attached, packaging, etc. and contents were still in sealed packaging. Will this work? https://www.androidpit.com/how-to-downgrade-galaxy-s5-from-lollipop-to-kitkat ? Is this the same file as the downgrade one referred to? Sammobile only has the 4.4.2 file. There is a significant cost difference in this model and the t-mobile version. Otherwise, I would just return it. I do not like the newer software at all.
I had the same thing happen today with my g870a. I tried 5.0, and 4.4.2 kernels, 4.4.2 firmware (which I knew wasn't corrupt) in Odin but nothing worked. The whole reason was to go redo my Alliance Rom and use FF beside Safestrap (the LP kernal would get rid of the SS). What I ended up doing was going into stock recovery and went to where it says "install update from ext SD". Then I went into my FF backup and found twrp.zip and selected it. It's did some things, said some stuff failed, then booted up enough to get me to FF to get it straight. One problem...my g870a thinks it's a 900, wtf?
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