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My nexus 4 is getting LTE on AT&T. Is anyone else? LTE:13
I used the APN from a Galaxy s III. I am also on an LTE data plan.
Max speed is 29.80 down 10.75 up.
checkitonetime said:
My nexus 4 is getting LTE on AT&T. Is anyone else? LTE:13
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would look like, hell I can`t get ATT to put me a HSPA+ 4g plan bastards
Holy ****! No way! Post APN and method you used to get this to work!!
Someone posted a guide several days ago for how to enable LTE. I'm on T-Mo, so no LTE for me. I'd like to see some speed tests if you don't mind. :good:
Do you have to also manually enable LTE?
Acuity said:
Someone posted a guide several days ago for how to enable LTE. I'm on T-Mo, so no LTE for me. I'd like to see some speed tests if you don't mind. :good:
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Speeds
checkitonetime said:
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I didn't think ATT had band 4 LTE
ppeklak said:
I didn't think ATT had band 4 LTE
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I think they do, but it's not as widely deployed as the 700 MHz band
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_LTE_networks
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yahoowizard said:
Do you have to also manually enable LTE?
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Yes I did.
Does HSPA not work with this, since I'm not getting anything, but I am indoors atm.
ppeklak said:
I didn't think ATT had band 4 LTE
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Shows band 13 in OP's screen cap.
EDIT: Nvm, that's not what the 13 refers to. I'm dumb
yahoowizard said:
Does HSPA not work with this, since I'm not getting anything, but I am indoors atm.
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HSPA works fine on mine. It switches when LTE signal is gone.
Yeah I'm screwing something up maybe. I just typed the APN in, picked it, and enabled LTE in the phone's hidden settings or w/e. HMM
yahoowizard said:
Yeah I'm screwing something up maybe. I just typed the APN in, picked it, and enabled LTE in the phone's hidden settings or w/e. HMM
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Have you tried restarting it after setting the APN? I had to.
Wow I cannot wait to get mine now. Like seriously.
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What city are you in?
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andrewNY said:
What city are you in?
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a small town outside of Oklahoma City.
AT&T does own some band 4 license and can in principle do LTE in band 4. Just that in most places they don't use band 4 for LTE, but all their LTE phones support it. It could be that they are using band 4 in some cities, but not in any major/big city as far as I know.
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Shows band 13 in OP's screen cap.
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I don't think LTE:13 means band 13. I've seen, for example, HSDPA:9 and HSPAP:15 on my Galaxy Nexus, so I think it's some other scale.
The only North American LTE band that the N4 has the radio hardware for is Band IV, so it must be an AT&T Band IV deployment.
Not exactly impressive speeds or latency for being on LTE... I get as fast or faster on Tmobile HSPA+. Could it possibly be saying LTE but not really giving you the speed?
What were your speeds before switching the LTE on?
Just wanted to bring this to your awareness, Verizon's started to broadcast their AWS or Band 4 LTE network for testing purposes. If your Nexus 4 has old radio, put it in LTE Only mode, and manually search for networks.
If it shows up as 311480, please report here.
So far San Diego is live, although the user used another T-Mobile Band 4 capable LTE device to scan.
Cool but useless. There's no CDMA fall back for calling and text. So you'd have internet access and that's it. Stupid Verizon and their CDMA crap.
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Ohgami_Ichiro said:
Cool but useless. There's no CDMA fall back for calling and text. So you'd have internet access and that's it. Stupid Verizon and their CDMA crap.
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If Verizon's 2x20Mhz internet access capable of 100+Mbps is useless to you then be it...
But what's the point. I suppose you could use all the workarounds to do VoIP but normal calling and texting is a no go since there's no CDMA fall back. My point is Verizon is only half in. Not to mention that Verizon has very little band 4 holdings at all. but hey like I said it's cool that it works.
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This actually came up when I was searching through LTE in Chicago. I didn't know what that number was or meant
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If Verizon's 2x20Mhz internet access capable of 100+Mbps is useless to you then be it...
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Cool story and sounds great but a single line with a gig of data is hundred bucks sign me up
Ohgami_Ichiro said:
But what's the point. I suppose you could use all the workarounds to do VoIP but normal calling and texting is a no go since there's no CDMA fall back. My point is Verizon is only half in. Not to mention that Verizon has very little band 4 holdings at all. but hey like I said it's cool that it works.
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Verizon has nearly nationwide Band 4 spectrum holdings. Completely unused, just sitting there.
Way more than AT&T for example who's divested most of their licenses to T-Mobile as a breakup fee.
And also way more free, unused AWS (Band 4) than T-Mobile which has to keep and maintain 20Mhz chunks for their existing HSPA+42 network for at least 1-2years.
That said, east of Mississippi Verizon is deploying 2x20Mhz LTE that can push 150Mbps on Cat 4 equipment. Just saying...
West of Mississippi they're mostly 2x15Mbps capable of over 100Mbps, with some markets with 2x10Mhz.
To put that in the perspective for you, their current nationwide Band 13 LTE is 2x10Mhz which is currently twice the capacity of T-Mobile's live LTE in most of their markets (2x5Mhz).
The point is, you can have your existing device besides being a smartphone also acting as a Verizon MiFi, if you ever wish to get access to Verizon's new stupid fast network with no one on it...
Has anyone popped a LTE Verizon Sim in and tired to connect?
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IRX120 said:
Has anyone popped a LTE Verizon Sim in and tired to connect?
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I have a verizon gs4 as my dd. my nexus 4 is shipping, should be here friday. will test it when it gets here :laugh: :good:
rockingrubberducky said:
I have a verizon gs4 as my dd. my nexus 4 is shipping, should be here friday. will test it when it gets here :laugh: :good:
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What's the point? You'll only get data
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Smallsmx3 said:
What's the point? You'll only get data
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Why not?
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What's the point? You'll only get data
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hey, it's better than nothing. And testing things like that are fun, don't you think?
It's been widely reported that once they were done with their nationwide rollout of LTE later this year that they would then start using their band 4 aws holdings to fill in the holes and to augment their existing LTE service during peak loads.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/0...ice-to-operate-on-the-carriers-aws-lte-bands/
http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/0...ummer-start-selling-aws-friendly-phones-soon/
This is really awesome for people like me that only have Verizon's LTE in my area. If this could actually work, I'd switch to it, at least for a month; just to mess around with, and to blow people's minds when I tell them I have a GSM phone on Verizon's network (I know, not that impressive to the average XDA user, but to the ignorant masses, doing something like that is crazy).
The voice is no issue for me as I've used a tablet plan the past 2 months with a VoIP alternative.
The only problem is that Verizon only has pay-as-you-go 3G plans, you'd have to sign up for a regular LTE plan with a 2 year agreement and they are expensive. This might be an option for someone who's already a Verizon customer to try but not practical for most people.
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The only problem is that Verizon only has pay-as-you-go 3G plans, you'd have to sign up for a regular LTE plan with a 2 year agreement and they are expensive. This might be an option for someone who's already a Verizon customer to try but not practical for most people.
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Oh, well that's unfortunate. I guess I didn't even think about that. I suppose AT&T just enabled 4G on their prepaid network like last month. Dang it!
Oh well, I'm still gunna search for 4G in my area (flashing an old radio right now). If I find it, I'll see if my friend will let me try to pop his SIM into my phone and see if it could work in theory.
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Oh, well that's unfortunate. I guess I didn't even think about that. I suppose AT&T just enabled 4G on their prepaid network like last month. Dang it!
Oh well, I'm still gunna search for 4G in my area (flashing an old radio right now). If I find it, I'll see if my friend will let me try to pop his SIM into my phone and see if it could work in theory.
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AT&T always had the HSPA+ 4G on pre-paid and just added LTE. You still have to have an LTE plan and live in an area with AWS, Chicago will be mostly AWS as AT&T didn't have a lot of 700 MHz licenses in that area but that's one of the few places that you will find it.
You can still scan for Verizon's LTE on your Nexus even if you don't have their SIM. At least you'll know if your area has that option available. They're still in the very early stage of deployment, San Diego report is literally the very first report of Verizon's Band 4 network broadcasting.
They won't be deploying on Band 4 nationwide from the get go, it's gonna be metro areas with heavy traffic first, then building inside-out.
It will be data only since Nexus 4 doesn't have CDMA radios, but as I said earlier, it's beneficial to have this option if you ever need another carrier for data hotspot.
Oh, and if you have Verizon's LTE iPad for instance, that's a prepaid service, you can totally use that SIM on any other LTE capable device.
Welp, I don't have any Band IV in my area so that came a quick halt.
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AT&T always had the HSPA+ 4G on pre-paid and just added LTE. You still have to have an LTE plan and live in an area with AWS, Chicago will be mostly AWS as AT&T didn't have a lot of 700 MHz licenses in that area but that's one of the few places that you will find it.
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Yeah, I meant LTE when I said 4G, since HSPA+ isn't really 4G (actually, LTE doesn't even meet the 4G standard as set by the 3GPP, but that's a whole other discussion)
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Oh, and if you have Verizon's LTE iPad for instance, that's a prepaid service, you can totally use that SIM on any other LTE capable device.
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Do they offer LTE on any prepaid tablet plan? I keep trying to look around and can't find a definite yes or no; usually if they don't stick '4G LTE!!!!!!' at least 100 places on the page, they don't offer it. I can't find anything.
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Welp, I don't have any Band IV in my area so that came a quick halt.
Yeah, I meant LTE when I said 4G, since HSPA+ isn't really 4G (actually, LTE doesn't even meet the 4G standard as set by the 3GPP, but that's a whole other discussion)
Do they offer LTE on any prepaid tablet plan? I keep trying to look around and can't find a definite yes or no; usually if they don't stick '4G LTE!!!!!!' at least 100 places on the page, they don't offer it. I can't find anything.
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Yeah for the iPad 4 they offer month to month plans (I think, but it might only be hsdpa) and I believe they are LTE, but its like 30$ for 4gb shared
http://www.verizonwireless.com/wcms/consumer/explore/tablets.html
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Hey guys. When you make a call, does your LTE turn off? I'm in a completely lte saturated area and the icon disappears every time the other phone starts ringing.
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Yes, calls are placed using HSPA(or even the 2G network), LTE is currently used for data only. As soon as you place a call or receive a call the phone drops back to the other network, after hanging up and waiting a bit it will switch back to the data only network which is LTE.
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Steve-x said:
Yes, calls are placed using HSPA(or even the 2G network), LTE is currently used for data only. As soon as you place a call or receive a call the phone drops back to the other network, after hanging up and waiting a bit it will switch back to the data only network which is LTE.
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That makes no sense. If a call is placed on HSPA, LTE should remain active during a call....
km8j said:
That makes no sense. If a call is placed on HSPA, LTE should remain active during a call....
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Not a chance - HSPA and LTE are rarely even on the same frequency band. If you're in a call and use data you're using HSPA.
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Not a chance - HSPA and LTE are rarely even on the same frequency band. If you're in a call and use data you're using HSPA.
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This doesn't make sense. On VZW, LTE is data-only as well. You make a call, two different radios, and use LTE for data.
km8j said:
This doesn't make sense. On VZW, LTE is data-only as well. You make a call, two different radios, and use LTE for data.
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You asked about Tmobile before, Verizon is different, they don't use HSPA for voice calls, they use CDMA. The Verizon variant can maintain a CDMA call and an LTE data connection at the same time.
Why can't tmo do this? Is it exclusive to our devices?
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km8j said:
Why can't tmo do this? Is it exclusive to our devices?
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The reason Verizon can do this is because voice is CDMA and LTE is on GSM...whereas on TMobile it is all on GSM. There is no TMO phone that I know that maintains LTE on a phone call. Nonetheless, HSPA+ should be suffice while on a call anyways.
I've noticed this as well, and sometimes the data goes completely off while on a call.
Just received my unlocked Z3 Compact from Handtec. Data wasn't working so I inputted the APNs for my carrier (AT&T).
Data is working now, but I'm not sure if I'm getting LTE or not. The network icon shows '4G' above it, but not LTE. The manual says that it should show 'LTE', but it also doesn't even list a 4G icon.
Can anyone who definitely has LTE let me know what icon they're seeing? Thanks!
Go to settings, About Phone, Status and see if it shows you are connected to LTE. That's where it is on my Moto X so it should be close to the same but maybe named differently.
Also are you in an area that you had LTE service before? I see 4G in areas then 4G LTE in others.
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4G is LTE. It displays H+ for HSPA. I just had to have ATT fix my IMEI for LTE since I was only getting H+ before.
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Go to settings, About Phone, Status and see if it shows you are connected to LTE. That's where it is on my Moto X so it should be close to the same but maybe named differently.
Also are you in an area that you had LTE service before? I see 4G in areas then 4G LTE in others.
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Thanks. It just says '4G' under 'Mobile Network Type'
overlord727 said:
4G is LTE. It displays H+ for HSPA. I just had to have ATT fix my IMEI for LTE since I was only getting H+ before.
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Cool. Good to know, thanks.
In some customizations (e.g. UK) it's called 4G while in others (e.g. German) they named it LTE. Don't ask me why, but I noticed that while playing a bit around with the "Customized UK build .105" on my otherwise "Customized DE build .98".
I always thought that H+ was HSPA + (obviously), that 4G was LTE, but just 'slow' LTE, and that 4G LTE was 'high speed' LTE when you have a really good connection. Not sure though.
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I always thought that H+ was HSPA + (obviously), that 4G was LTE, but just 'slow' LTE, and that 4G LTE was 'high speed' LTE when you have a really good connection. Not sure though.
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No no, here 4G means LTE, no difference over here.
Technically, only to add a bit confusion, LTE -whereas a 4th Generation network- is a 3.9G-Standard (extention to UMTS). LTE-Advanced, however, is (or will be) of 4G-Standard. :silly:
I think you should see LTE as well if in the US. One way to tell is to do a speed test, there are also apps in the market that can give you more info on your network connection.
My Moto X shows 4G and 4G LTE on At&t.
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4G is LTE. It displays H+ for HSPA. I just had to have ATT fix my IMEI for LTE since I was only getting H+ before.
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Do you know what AT&T changed to fix the issue? I'm having the same issue (HSPA+), but with no resolution. Here are my specifics (posted in another thread): http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=55695219&postcount=4
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Do you know what AT&T changed to fix the issue? I'm having the same issue (HSPA+), but with no resolution. Here are my specifics (posted in another thread): http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=55695219&postcount=4
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All I did to resolve this was have the att rep change the imei on my phone and reboot. That's it. Hope you can get a rep that knows what they're doing!
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All I did to resolve this was have the att rep change the imei on my phone and reboot. That's it. Hope you can get a rep that knows what they're doing!
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The call reps keep confirming that my Lumia 925 IMEI, an LTE phone, is registered correctly. Nothing changes, however, regardless of reboots, etc.. What device do you see in your My Account settings on AT&T's site? I keep seeing a silhouette of a flip phone. I'm wondering if I need to activate my nano sim in an LTE device they recognized or something (it doesn't fit in the Lumia 925).
Issue resolved!
Bottom line...do not give these clowns your Xperia IMEI number.
When they entered the IMEI number it flipped my data plan from a grandfathered unlimited plan to a pay-per-use plan with no LTE (why they couldn't figures this out last night, it beats me). He was talking about my wife's plan and her unlimited data. I then noted "mine is unlimited too" and then said it wasn't. You can only imagine how things went from there.
The unrecognized IMEI number automatically switched me off of my plan.
They have me on a temporary 3GB plan, as the support rep couldn't get me back on the unlimited plan. They have to send the change to their back office team and it will take a week to get it back.
My phone now has the 4G icon versus H+.
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infmz said:
Just received my unlocked Z3 Compact from Handtec. Data wasn't working so I inputted the APNs for my carrier (AT&T).
Data is working now, but I'm not sure if I'm getting LTE or not. The network icon shows '4G' above it, but not LTE. The manual says that it should show 'LTE', but it also doesn't even list a 4G icon.
Can anyone who definitely has LTE let me know what icon they're seeing? Thanks!
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Is that the stock status bar icon for battery and 4g? Or are you modded already?
If stock, those are the best stock icons I've ever seen besides pure AOSP!
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Is that the stock status bar icon for battery and 4g? Or are you modded already?
If stock, those are the best stock icons I've ever seen besides pure AOSP!
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I hate to be daft here, but I feel like the answers are all a tad ambiguous.
Are people saying there for sure is no LTE icon for this phone? That having the 4G icon show is the same thing as having the LTE icon show?
I ask only because I have the 4G icon but I am getting like 1-3Mbps download speeds (using the speedtest app). I feel like I should be getting much higher speeds if it says 4G. I tested in the heart of downtown Seattle and in the outskirts of Seattle.
Any assistance would be great.
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I hate to be daft here, but I feel like the answers are all a tad ambiguous.
Are people saying there for sure is no LTE icon for this phone? That having the 4G icon show is the same thing as having the LTE icon show?
I ask only because I have the 4G icon but I am getting like 1-3Mbps download speeds (using the speedtest app). I feel like I should be getting much higher speeds if it says 4G. I tested in the heart of downtown Seattle and in the outskirts of Seattle.
Any assistance would be great.
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Obviously there's something wrong with those speeds but from what I know - yes 4G is LTE. This is because HSPA+/DCHSPA was never marketed as 4G in the UK so there had never been a confusion about what 4G is - it has always been LTE.
Ah, was wondering why they would scrap the LTE icon, my S4 had 4G and LTE icons.
What DL/Upload speeds are people in the US getting with 4G?
Just got 7/3.85 just now... which still seems way too low for 4G. Verified that my APN settings were correct.
I got 20 down in "4G" yesterday (no LTE icon). All good
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derekmarch said:
I hate to be daft here, but I feel like the answers are all a tad ambiguous.
Are people saying there for sure is no LTE icon for this phone? That having the 4G icon show is the same thing as having the LTE icon show?
I ask only because I have the 4G icon but I am getting like 1-3Mbps download speeds (using the speedtest app). I feel like I should be getting much higher speeds if it says 4G. I tested in the heart of downtown Seattle and in the outskirts of Seattle.
Any assistance would be great.
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Are you using the SIM from an LTE phone or did you get a new one and give them your IMEI? The Z3c isn't going to be in any US carriers system so if you give them the IMEI you will not get LTE. Give them the IMEI from an LTE phone or just swap your SIM from one LTE on me to the Z3c.
I also think unless its a US sold phone you will not see the LTE icon even if getting a LTE signal in the US.
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Are you using the SIM from an LTE phone or did you get a new one and give them your IMEI? The Z3c isn't going to be in any US carriers system so if you give them the IMEI you will not get LTE. Give them the IMEI from an LTE phone or just swap your SIM from one LTE on me to the Z3c.
I also think unless its a US sold phone you will not see the LTE icon even if getting a LTE signal in the US.
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So how would one go about finding a 'fake' iemi number? I've read the 'use a display model' method. Any others?
I'm thinking about switching to T-Mobile from Verizon and I just got the Note 4 so I would want to bring it with me. Would everything like LTE work fine on the T-Mobile network?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4-verizon/general/verizon-note-4-t-mobile-network-t2916727
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Thanks. I guess I should have done some research before posting.
con100 said:
I'm thinking about switching to T-Mobile from Verizon and I just got the Note 4 so I would want to bring it with me. Would everything like LTE work fine on the T-Mobile network?
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It won't give you LTE until tmobile activates their band 12 in your neighborhood
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It won't give you LTE until tmobile activates their band 12 in your neighborhood
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LTE Band 4 is enabled on Verizon phones as well. I've used many Verizon phones on T-Mobile.
Verizon GS5, Nokia Icon and the Sony Z3v all work and get LTE Band 4 on T-Mobile.