I am not having any battery life issues, but I know I can get better usage out of the phone if I could figure out what is causing battery drain.
Here is my usage so far, WiFi has been off 90% of the time, but notice how it shows WiFi as on the whole time:
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I installed the "wake lock detector" app, and here are the results:
Wakelock triggers:
CPU wakelock:
I tried finding those exact processes in "Disable Service" app, but they do not exist. Also I do not understand why WiFi shows as always on when it is off.
I am on the Pure Shamu 5.0.1 ROM, default kernal.
Any help would be appreciated.
Regarding WiFi always on; there's an option in the WiFi settings under Advanced that allows the phone to continuously scan for WiFi networks even when WiFi is toggled off. This is on by default.
I imagine this is why the devices report WiFi on even if you've turned it off.
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Regarding WiFi always on; there's an option in the WiFi settings under Advanced that allows the phone to continuously scan for WiFi networks even when WiFi is toggled off. This is on by default.
I imagine this is why the devices report WiFi on even if you've turned it off.
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You are correct, this fixed the WiFi issue. Now I just need to figure out how why my N6 is staying awake for so much time.
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You are correct, this fixed the WiFi issue. Now I just need to figure out how why my N6 is staying awake for so much time.
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I bet its the same thing a few of us have ... its been discussed a fair bit here : http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/general/n6-battery-life-owners-thread-t2946742/page62
Basically it seems its a process called " sensor.ind" once it starts up , it just doesn't shut off and keeps the device awake all the time. haven't found a fix.
Also it didn't show up in wakelock detector, but it does in betterbatterystats under " kernel"
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I am not having any battery life issues, but I know I can get better usage out of the phone if I could figure out what is causing battery drain.
Here is my usage so far, WiFi has been off 90% of the time, but notice how it shows WiFi as on the whole time:
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I installed the "wake lock detector" app, and here are the results:
Wakelock triggers: View attachment 3056377
CPU wakelock: View attachment 3056379
I tried finding those exact processes in "Disable Service" app, but they do not exist. Also I do not understand why WiFi shows as always on when it is off.
I am on the Pure Shamu 5.0.1 ROM, default kernal.
Any help would be appreciated.
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Regarding your Wakelocks... You have some of the top offenders on your phone. Facebook, Search and the rest of the Google Apps like Hangouts and Google Plus. Then judging by your Greenify Wakelocks it looks like your phone is hibernating certain apps only to have them woken up fairly quickly.
Now it's easier to tell if you truly have an issue by using Better Battery Stats and leaving your phone unplugged and idle over night and then grabbing a Dump File first thing in the morning.
Those stats you posted do let you know what has been running, but it is during moderate to heavy use.
Some suggestions...
Allow for Greenifying of System apps under experimental features and Greenify everything. Get rid of the Facebook app and use the site. Turn off Sync and Notifications for only the essential apps and manually sync. If you're a moderate to heavy user anyways you won't be missing out too much and manual sync works well.
Personally I ditch most Google apps and Greenify the ones I do use. I also use Nova Launcher and don't use Google Now and Search or OK Google. However I still think if you tamed your apps you should be in good shape and be able to use the Google apps you enjoy.
Download App Ops from the Play Store and deny permission to Google Play Services for "Keep Awake"
Its a huge battery drain. And no there are no side effects by denying permission. Been doing that ever since Google Play Services have been draining battery.
You also use Facebook + Messenger which are known contributors to poor battery life especially messenger. I don't know if you have "Ok Google" on all the time or google now but disable that, google search is using way too much battery.
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Download App Ops from the Play Store and deny permission to Google Play Services for "Keep Awake"
Its a huge battery drain. And no there are no side effects by denying permission. Been doing that ever since Google Play Services have been draining battery.
You also use Facebook + Messenger which are known contributors to poor battery life especially messenger. I don't know if you have "Ok Google" on all the time or google now but disable that, google search is using way too much battery.
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Wouldn't denying Keep Awake for google play services disable things like location services & app authentication with google when the phone is otherwise idle? Some people may want those things
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Regarding your Wakelocks... You have some of the top offenders on your phone. Facebook, Search and the rest of the Google Apps like Hangouts and Google Plus. Then judging by your Greenify Wakelocks it looks like your phone is hibernating certain apps only to have them woken up fairly quickly.
Now it's easier to tell if you truly have an issue by using Better Battery Stats and leaving your phone unplugged and idle over night and then grabbing a Dump File first thing in the morning.
Those stats you posted do let you know what has been running, but it is during moderate to heavy use.
Some suggestions...
Allow for Greenifying of System apps under experimental features and Greenify everything. Get rid of the Facebook app and use the site. Turn off Sync and Notifications for only the essential apps and manually sync. If you're a moderate to heavy user anyways you won't be missing out too much and manual sync works well.
Personally I ditch most Google apps and Greenify the ones I do use. I also use Nova Launcher and don't use Google Now and Search or OK Google. However I still think if you tamed your apps you should be in good shape and be able to use the Google apps you enjoy.
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Thanks for your input.
Got better battery stats, will be testing this out tonight before I Greenify any system apps or switch back to Nova. I personally like the google now launcher a lot because of the ability to just swipe right to access google now. Its not as smooth in Nova with a gesture, or as swipe up the home button.
As far as sync, I couldn't find any way to turn off sync for each app like in KitKat. Now there is only an option to turn off sync for all apps (under Settings > Accounts).
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Download App Ops from the Play Store and deny permission to Google Play Services for "Keep Awake"
Its a huge battery drain. And no there are no side effects by denying permission. Been doing that ever since Google Play Services have been draining battery.
You also use Facebook + Messenger which are known contributors to poor battery life especially messenger. I don't know if you have "Ok Google" on all the time or google now but disable that, google search is using way too much battery.
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I'm going to check better battery stats tonight, and then change things up tomm accordingly. I'll probably end up uninstalling Facebook + messenger. If there is still battery drain my google search (which I'm sure will still be there), I will use app ops to deny those permissions and report back on my findings.
And I do not have OK google on all the time, but I do use Google now. Yes, I know google search is using too much battery, that's is what I was hoping to tackle.
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Wouldn't denying Keep Awake for google play services disable things like location services & app authentication with google when the phone is otherwise idle? Some people may want those things
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No it doesn't disable that feature. I've done this for over 4 months since I've had the oneplus one which suffered from this same problem.
Battery is much better with the permission denied as it consumes a large amount of battery and wakelock.
Read more http://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-one/general/guide-google-play-services-battery-t2832525
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Thanks for your input.
Got better battery stats, will be testing this out tonight before I Greenify any system apps or switch back to Nova. I personally like the google now launcher a lot because of the ability to just swipe right to access google now. Its not as smooth in Nova with a gesture, or as swipe up the home button.
As far as sync, I couldn't find any way to turn off sync for each app like in KitKat. Now there is only an option to turn off sync for all apps (under Settings > Accounts).
I'm going to check better battery stats tonight, and then change things up tomm accordingly. I'll probably end up uninstalling Facebook + messenger. If there is still battery drain my google search (which I'm sure will still be there), I will use app ops to deny those permissions and report back on my findings.
And I do not have OK google on all the time, but I do use Google now. Yes, I know google search is using too much battery, that's is what I was hoping to tackle.
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Go to your Accounts, Click on Google, then click on your email address and you'll see all the apps and their sync options.
Based on the suggestions I received, I've done some things over the past few days to see what changes.
What I did:
Uninstalled: Facebook, Messenger (Facebook), Google (search).
Disabled: OK google detection, Google Now.
Installed: Better Battery Stats, Greenify (pro), Wakelock Detector.
Turned off auto sync for most google apps.
Greenified all apps possible plus system apps (with pro version).
My initial screenshots are in the original thread, I was seeing much less "device awake" time after uninstalling the few apps. Here are my results after a full days use:
The device awake time is still at 65%, even after uninstalling the apps listed above. Upon taking these screenshots, I fully charged my N6 to 100%, then took it off charge, restarted it, and left it overnight for 7-ish hours. The drain over this period was a small 3%, which was great, didn't have to recharge when I woke up. Screen shots below.
Upon seeing dicks sporting goods causing lots of wakelocks, I uninstalled the app today. I had right around 4 hours SOT. I was at work for 8 hours, which is at the first floor of a airport garage, and there is barely any signal, so i believe I could have gotten better results had it been a college (nonwork) day. Here are the screenshots from right now, at 13% battery.
Couldn't post any more screenshots in previous post, so here they are:
You should be looking at CPU wakelocks and not wakeup triggers. Wakeup triggers just shows what processes were scheduled to automatically wake up to do certain tasks. CPU wakelocks shows which apps actually kept the phone awake.
You can also turn on the kernel wakelocks in the settings menu to see what system processes are keeping the phone awake.
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I have been in trouble for a past month. Google maps was holding partial wakelocks on sleep with all settings sync check boxes cleared in Google maps app. But it didn`t help. Settings->Battery always had google maps in here for lower or higher percentage. A day ago I started using better battery stats and noticed networklocationpassivecollector holding wakelock. So i dig into Settings->Locaion access-> Access to my location switch is on. If i switch it to off and then again back to ok dialog "Locations consent" appears when I pressed disagree the problems went away. Dialog message: Allow Google`s location service to collect anonymous location data. Some data may be stored on your device. Collection may occur even when no apps are runing.
Can somebody with google maps wakelock problem confirm this?
Open maps and then location settings in that and disable the report from this device option.
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If you disagree in that dialog, then your location discovery will be less accurate, because one of the 2 checkboxes on that screen will not be set.
This appears to be a location settings bug. This also happened to me but with the Facebook app.
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Can somebody with google maps wakelock problem confirm this?
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I had Google Maps related wakelocks as well. They went away when I turned off everything that had to do with
Location reporting form Google Maps, Account Settings and GPS Settings. I'm not sure which "feature" was
causing it but there is indeed a problem.
Can anybody with this wakelock problem install Greenify app from play store. I had this problem but as soon as I hibernated maps they no longer cause wakelock and GPS and all the location settings are on. Maybe it will help same as me without a need to switch anything off.
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I have been in trouble for a past month. Google maps was holding partial wakelocks on sleep with all settings sync check boxes cleared in Google maps app. But it didn`t help. Settings->Battery always had google maps in here for lower or higher percentage. A day ago I started using better battery stats and noticed networklocationpassivecollector holding wakelock. So i dig into Settings->Locaion access-> Access to my location switch is on. If i switch it to off and then again back to ok dialog "Locations consent" appears when I pressed disagree the problems went away. Dialog message: Allow Google`s location service to collect anonymous location data. Some data may be stored on your device. Collection may occur even when no apps are runing.
Can somebody with google maps wakelock problem confirm this?
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Google uses Android phones to keep its Wi-Fi database up to date, saves driving around in a car and getting into trouble for collecting data This is why they state it may use some data even if you aren't using Maps or location services.
Disabling reporting of locations from Maps doesn't change the wake locks, as it isn't the reporting causing most of them.
So Google will use your device to scan for Wi-Fi points, plus enable your GPS if it can to get a location fix to update it's location database of Wi-Fi points. To further confuse things Google seems to have some adaptive way of using devices, perhaps after a time they give individual phones a rest from reporting, or they use more of your phone the more you use more of the service, sort of our cost for getting free location services. This means different people see different battery usage from Google Maps, and the same person will see loads one day then it suddenly stops another.
The best way of stopping it is if you have root access download an application that lets you disable apps, and then disable Google Maps, only turning it on when you need it.
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Google uses Android phones to keep its Wi-Fi database up to date, saves driving around in a car and getting into trouble for collecting data This is why they state it may use some data even if you aren't using Maps or location services.
Disabling reporting of locations from Maps doesn't change the wake locks, as it isn't the reporting causing most of them.
So Google will use your device to scan for Wi-Fi points, plus enable your GPS if it can to get a location fix to update it's location database of Wi-Fi points. To further confuse things Google seems to have some adaptive way of using devices, perhaps after a time they give individual phones a rest from reporting, or they use more of your phone the more you use more of the service, sort of our cost for getting free location services. This means different people see different battery usage from Google Maps, and the same person will see loads one day then it suddenly stops another.
The best way of stopping it is if you have root access download an application that lets you disable apps, and then disable Google Maps, only turning it on when you need it.
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Phil
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Interesting. Is this an assumption or the fact? If former, could you link up the source please?
What about this app ? https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.elsdoerfer.android.autostarts
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Hey guys. Thanks for great advises I will try auto starts (or greenify), because after disagreeing to Google passive collector Google Now stopped working. But maps wake locks are still away
And yes Google do collects Wi-Fi routers information. I noticed that when I bring my router to other place all connected laptops web based Google maps showed that our current location is my home
Google Services is killing my battery with its incessant wakelocks! How do I get rid of this?
I flashed my phone a few days ago... from ICS to JB 4.1.2.... I also loaded NOPE kernel and overclocked to 850 MHz. I thought it was the overclocking that was killing my battery but it looks like it's some of the google services.... they keep cpu wakelocking the phone while it should be sleeping. I mean come on, 6444 wakes in 15hrs?
I see that it's a common issue but there doesn't seem to be an easy fix. Can anyone walk me through what they did to solve? attached are my battery/wakelock stats for reference
You can always greenify it (play store -> greenify). Mind it does restart quite often, so it is a real pain, but most of the google apps depend on it. You could also go to google settings on the phone, and in the location section disable location reporting and location history. This is the main battery killer in google services.
P.S. What's the rom you're using on the pictures?
I read that turning off both GPS and network location services will help fix this.... but then all my apps become dumb. I'm looking at the Google Services screen in Wakelock Detector (image first post) and I can see the wake count for different functions or programs. e.g. NetworkLocationLocator woke 206 times, but GTALK_CONN woke 1668. Is there any way to disable certain aspects of the Google Services app or is it an all or none scenario?
P.S. What's the rom you're using on the pictures?
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It's Speed Droid by addictz10 with the Samsung S5 skin (it's called CM11 CM10.2 TouchWiz 5.0 theme in the Store). The first green pic is using Wakelock Detector and the other 2 are the OS Battery screen.
Well, as for gps, you can turn it off, because it is rarely needed for your phone to have that precise information on your whereabouts. As for network location service, don't turn it off, just turn location reporting and location history in google settings (not phone settings). As for gtalk, well, you'll have to uninstall hangouts and to disable/remove google talk to stop that behavior. I don't think that there is a way of stopping certain wakelocks, and I agree that it would be great if it could be done...
May I know anyone here with a replaced battery. Did u stick with 5.1.1 or 4.4.4? Any battery drain issue after battery replacement?(4.4.4/5.1.1) Any suggestion? Thank you
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May I know anyone here with a replaced battery. Did u stick with 5.1.1 or 4.4.4? Any battery drain issue after battery replacement?(4.4.4/5.1.1) Any suggestion? Thank you
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Battery drain has nothing to do with the version of Android you are using. A classic symptom of a dying battery is a sudden drop from let's say 50% to near 0 followed by a shutdown. When I had this symptom, I went back to kitkat and had that too. If your battery is new, the drain is related to the way you use your rom and the apps you have. Number one culprits are rogue apps such as Gapps and social apps (facebook et al). They persist in ram, prevent your phone from sleeping and do their malware/spying activities virtually 24/7. Gapps record everything that is going on with your phone and regularly transmit data to Google. Facebook does the same+ and communicates with facebook servers. Also, any other app that includes Google analytics does the same (communicates with Google and the respective developer).
Lollipop may seem to cause more drain, because these apps are integrated more into Android. It is even worse in Marshmallows. But if you get rid of Gapps/Social Apps and others, your Z1 should last for 2 days with moderate usage: in my case: 2 hours of screen, mail syncing and wifi/data 24/7. If you can't live without facebook and Google, you can still use them the way you do it on your laptop...
Just think about this: do you want this person to have your private life and sell it to everybody? https://images.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.timeinc.net%2Ftime%2F2010%2Fpoy_2010%2Fmark_zuckerberg%2Fmark_zuckerberg_01.jpg&f=1 . In my view, there are similar faces and versions of sociopaths at Google too.
So you mean it's ok to stay lollipop ? i'll disable the Gapps and fb
HollyZ1 said:
So you mean it's ok to stay lollipop ? i'll disable the Gapps and fb
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Lollipop is OK as of September-November 2015. If you are on stock, you need to debloat it. Another problem with Gapps is that they are in System and have root rights. But generally, if you freeze Gapps and FB, your battery life will significantly improve. Every app that has Android native variant is bad (gmail, fb, hangouts and other garbage). You can use K9mail to access gmail or any other e-mail service and you can use web browser to access social sites.. Turn off location services and set them on only when you need them. Turn off system wide syncing: a good app (like K9mail) has its own syncing. Get Afwall and allow internet to apps you use like mail, browser etc. Why do you need Settings or Camera or Gallery or Keyboard or virtually any System app to have access to the internet? You don't and they all waste data and battery communicating with "home" (google)...
Thanks a lot bro
Please i need help, my note 8 Google play services is taking alot of data from my phone and it is worrisome. i have disable the background but it couldn't help. please someone should come to my resume, my 35Gb doesn't last up to 2 weeks because google play service take more half of my data. see screenshot for more details
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please i need help to stop this high data
thank you
Okijaamaka said:
Please i need help, my note 8 Google play services is taking alot of data from my phone and it is worrisome. i have disable the background but it couldn't help. please someone should come to my resume, my 35Gb doesn't last up to 2 weeks because google play service take more half of my data. see screenshot for more details
please i need help to stop this high data
thank you
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You need to go through the apps one by one on that list in your picture and disable background data because there's no need for them to do that I have all background data disabled on my phone and everything works fine.
MrMike2182 said:
You need to go through the apps one by one on that list in your picture and disable background data because there's no need for them to do that I have all background data disabled on my phone and everything works fine.
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thank you for the display
please which apps are you preferring to
all the third party app or the the ones under google play services
Okijaamaka said:
thank you for the display
please which apps are you preferring to
all the third party app or the the ones under google play services
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Go through every single app.. Go in settings and then apps and tap every app and then tap Mobile data and untick background data so it doesn't allow it.
So, I was getting fairly good battery life until recently. I started to use Power Shade and I think it was soon after that that my battery started to really take a nose dive. I even paid for the upgraded part of the app. A couple of days later - and the app is no longer even offered in the Play Store. What's up with that?
Dankees said:
So, I was getting fairly good battery life until recently. I started to use Power Shade and I think it was soon after that that my battery started to really take a nose dive. I even paid for the upgraded part of the app. A couple of days later - and the app is no longer even offered in the Play Store. What's up with that?
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People keep doing that in the play store to rip people off just request a refund from the play store!
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People keep doing that in the play store to rip people off just request a refund from the play store!
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Well, I had paid for Material Notification Shade and told him - then he sent me a code for this app.
But, does anyone else have experience with this app ****ing up their battery life?
Dankees said:
Well, I had paid for Material Notification Shade and told him - then he sent me a code for this app.
But, does anyone else have experience with this app ****ing up their battery life?
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Never used it myself but if it was removed from Play Store like that it sounds shady...wouldn't be surprised if it was poorly optimized, leading to excessive drain.
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Never used it myself but if it was removed from Play Store like that it sounds shady...wouldn't be surprised if it was poorly optimized, leading to excessive drain.
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I turned it off (didn't fully uninstall it) and I turned off all of its permissions. Is it still going to damage my phone? Is the damage now irrevocable?
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I turned it off (didn't fully uninstall it) and I turned off all of its permissions. Is it still going to damage my phone? Is the damage now irrevocable?
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I would probably just uninstall that app completely and test from there (BUT keep in mind that if it's been removed from the Play Store, then you won't be able to use it again unless you have the apk to re-install it).
If the problem persists, then maybe it's not that app after all and it's something else. If you can't identify the specific problem or app, then you can always do a factory reset as a last resort. I don't think your phone is damaged, just a rogue apps or permissions.
Well, it's now back again.
I turned it on and let my phone sit, unused, for one hour. My battery dropped 5%.
I turned it off and let my phone sit, unused, for one hour. My battery dropped 2%.
So, is it safe to say this is the culprit?
I have AccuBattery - would that tell me something or BetterBatteryStats would tell me better?
Dankees said:
Well, it's now back again.
I turned it on and let my phone sit, unused, for one hour. My battery dropped 5%.
I turned it off and let my phone sit, unused, for one hour. My battery dropped 2%.
So, is it safe to say this is the culprit?
I have AccuBattery - would that tell me something or BetterBatteryStats would tell me better?
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An hour isn't really much time, so hard to say for sure. Try it for a day at least and see if the problem is really solved. Sounds like that app was likely causing drain though. Accubattery is fine, there's also GSAM, etc.
Edit: I see you started your own thread https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=78501408
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I would probably just uninstall that app completely and test from there (BUT keep in mind that if it's been removed from the Play Store, then you won't be able to use it again unless you have the apk to re-install it).
If the problem persists, then maybe it's not that app after all and it's something else. If you can't identify the specific problem or app, then you can always do a factory reset as a last resort. I don't think your phone is damaged, just a rogue apps or permissions.
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thank you
Okijaamaka said:
Please i need help, my note 8 Google play services is taking alot of data from my phone and it is worrisome. i have disable the background but it couldn't help. please someone should come to my resume, my 35Gb doesn't last up to 2 weeks because google play service take more half of my data. see screenshot for more details
please i need help to stop this high data
thank you
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Disable automatic Google Backups (Google Drive, Photos, etc.), go to settings and disable backup data in your google account. Also make sure that media auto-download is not enabled in social media apps like WhatsApp and Telegram.
I installed this notif shade app, beside the fact that I really did not like it, I also noticed a high batt drain, and that it constantly tried to access internet , seeing this, I just uninstalled it
Hello everyone,I left my phone overnight for 8 hours at 100% battery and after 8hours of idling it was at 80%,this seems to much for me. I'm on EEA firmware 12.5.3 and I debloated removing many apps what do you suggest to check or remove?
Try putting it on airplane mode before setting it down for the night. I noticed this drain also, but this made a significant difference. I'm hoping the 12.5 update will sort it!
You are right,putting it into airplane mode should reduce power consumption, probably 5g consume a lot of energy. Now I went into battery mode and resticted apps in background I don't use like assistant, scanner,recorder, notes, and much more
Kill cloud and cloud backup apps.
If you got Google play Services, disable that when not using. Google backup Transport and Framework can be permanently disabled. Kill Google Firebase and feedback for Google, manufacturer, apps and carrier. For starters.
No need to put in Airplane mode if you take out the trash that's needlessly running in the background sucking the battery down.
Could you drive me trough the settings please? Where I can do this? I disabled many things but I want to be sure what I missed
xNAPx said:
Could you drive me trough the settings please? Where I can do this? I disabled many things but I want to be sure what I missed
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I'm not holding the device and I have a Note 10+ but there are similar issues on all Android phones.
You need to be able to see what apks are draining the battery and using the internet. On Pie which I use is easier to do than with Q and 11 however you may have resources on those systems I'm unaware off.
Disable all power management and address the power hogs individually on a case by case basis.
You can use Karma Firewall to block internet access to rogue apps which will decrease their battery usage. However it's valuble logging features are disabled in Q and above. There may be a ADB work around... I don't know.
Package Disabler is very useful as well. There are non-Samsung variants of the apk you can likely use real time.
Play with it which what I did.
It's time consuming... and what works for some won't work for all. My 10+ was a hot running power hog; today it's a cool running, fast, stable, heavily optimized platform. Once done, do not update the OS or you'll be starting from scratch, again.
Use the Hidden Settings for MIUI app on the Google Play store to disable all the apps that cannot be disabled through the normal app menu (no root required):
Hidden Settings For MIUI - Apps on Google Play
More settings for Xiaomi devices to get a better user experience.
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Well the most draining app is Google play services which I don't know what it is used for
xNAPx said:
Well the most draining app is Google play services which I don't know what it is used for
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Google Backup Transport, Gmail, Gmaps, Find my Device and Playstore mostly. A few other 3rd party apps are dependencies as well like paid for Playstore apps, some of those will run normally without it though*.
Otherwise you can safely leave it disabled.
Find my Device will not initialize as a Device Administrator on reboot without it enabled, an apk I loathe. A reboot with Google play Services enable though will likely be needed to access Playstore.
Playstore is a mess, running in the background.
*like Accubattery if you firewall block it. SD Maid same issue.
That's what I don't understand, Google gmail has been uninstalled via adb, gmaps has been restricted in background (also need to ask location permission everytime it starts), play store has been restricted in background and find my device disabled, so I don't know why it keeps running all the time, what should I do? Shall I install MIUI optimization? The only thing I don't want to lose are whatsapp push notifications, step counter, messages and phone calls notifications
Also my device is rooted, hiw can I prevent Google play services from running in background and being used only when requested? Same for carrier services (what's used for?) And Xiaomi services framework
xNAPx said:
That's what I don't understand, Google gmail has been uninstalled via adb, gmaps has been restricted in background (also need to ask location permission everytime it starts), play store has been restricted in background and find my device disabled, so I don't know why it keeps running all the time, what should I do? Shall I install MIUI optimization? The only thing I don't want to lose are whatsapp push notifications, step counter, messages and phone calls notifications
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Find my Device still runs even when disabled.
As does Google Backup Transport and Framework.
Google play Services just does what it wants.
WhatsApp... you're kidding, right? I won't let that FB etc or any "social app" on my machine. Multiple security risks written all over (and into) it.
20% overnight is a lot, I get 4% overnight with no special settings. How's the signal strength? I've noticed that signal strength can have a negative impact on battery when looking for a signal as you mentioned airplane mode seems better.
wilpang said:
20% overnight is a lot, I get 4% overnight with no special settings. How's the signal strength? I've noticed that signal strength can have a negative impact on battery when looking for a signal as you mentioned airplane mode seems better.
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It's using the internet either polling or transferring data needlessly. You need to find the source.
My 10+ can receive texts and calls at night and still uses only 2-3% in 6 hours with touch to see AOD running.
Before when Google Backup Transport was running (even though it was turned off) it was more like 8-10%. Gookill is a mess.
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Find my Device still runs even when disabled.
As does Google Backup Transport and Framework.
Google play Services just does what it wants.
WhatsApp... you're kidding, right? I won't let that FB etc or any "social app" on my machine. Multiple security risks written all over (and into) it.
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Well WhatsApp is need to communicate with my wife lol,and my family.
Where can I find these backup transport? I run through the settings and restricted background activity for many apps, I got to see overnight what my new drain will be so I can report you.
What carrier services does? If I restrict background activity will I still receive sms and WhatsApp?
The only apps I have installed on my phone which I installed are: Whatsapp, tapatalk, Kiwi browser (uninstalled chrome), youtube vanced and magisk. All the rest if the apps are the one that came with the firmware. I uninstalled a lot of them plus some packages through adb. Still Google play services and carrier services are the most demanding. I don't want to loose the ability to use maps but only when I use it obviously. I want super low battery drain in idle
xNAPx said:
Well WhatsApp is need to communicate with my wife lol,and my family.
Where can I find these backup transport? I run through the settings and restricted background activity for many apps, I got to see overnight what my new drain will be so I can report you.
What carrier services does? If I restrict background activity will I still receive sms and WhatsApp?
The only apps I have installed on my phone which I installed are: Whatsapp, tapatalk, Kiwi browser (uninstalled chrome), youtube vanced and magisk. All the rest if the apps are the one that came with the firmware. I uninstalled a lot of them plus some packages through adb. Still Google play services and carrier services are the most demanding. I don't want to loose the ability to use maps but only when I use it obviously. I want super low battery drain in idle
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Why not use text messaging instead? It's battery usage is low.
-You- really need to know what you are disabling... one at a time.
There are likely more than one or two apps contributing to high battery usage.
Play with it.
Like I said you can enabled/disable Google play Services as needed in settings.
You'll find Google Backup Transport Services and Framework there as well.
Each device and user are different, one solution doesn't work for all. You'll need to become familiar with your device to do this right.
In settings where? And what should I restict or deactivate?
I think I solved the issue by resticting a lot of background activities through manage apps, usage access, revocation and permissions, now the phone stayed a 100% for more than 5hours
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Cell standby seems very high.
Try a network resort, clear system cache.
Network resort? Where can I clean system cache
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Network resort? Where can I clean system cache
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