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Hi all - my poor Kaiser has suffered the dreaded RLOD. Tried every possible fix short of a new battery... which I should get in the mail this week.
If the phone itself is bricked, what would people recommend in terms of a replacement/upgrade? I'm in Canada on Rogers so it has to be a GSM phone. Generally use it for business apps.
Thanks for any suggestions.
Matt
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Hi all - my poor Kaiser has suffered the dreaded RLOD. Tried every possible fix short of a new battery... which I should get in the mail this week.
If the phone itself is bricked, what would people recommend in terms of a replacement/upgrade? I'm in Canada on Rogers so it has to be a GSM phone. Generally use it for business apps.
Thanks for any suggestions.
Matt
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Slider keyboard, Touch Pro II or AT$T Tilt 2: Screen keyboard, Touch HD. Or wait for HTC's rumored ( and I think just a rumor, complete with " leaked " photoshopped pics) superphone, the HTC Leo.
"Tilt II" or (cheap) Kaiser
I was in the same position a couple days ago.
I decided to replace mine with another Kaiser. And I got the part to fix my dying phone as well, for a bit more. Less than $200 spent for two.
In good condition a Kaiser can be had for well under $150.
A fixer-upper can be pieced together for well under $100. (you've torn a Kaiser apart a few times? New screen, etc?) Parts are cheap and a junker to fix (Broken screen or hinges...) is almost free.
But if I were willing to have a contract, the Tilt II or a variant with number keys across the top... sure looks good. I haven't compared the size and weight, but since I already carry a tiny brick, it would be fine, I'm sure. I understand it's better in a few ways. (Audio jack, Screen resolution) and with more horsepower, the screen updates may be quicker, accelerated drivers or not!
I went with the Kaiser, but I did not know about the Tilt II until after I had purchased. Saved me some money, and now I have a backup with identical (but not as pretty) hardware.
Seems like win-win with either platform!
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kingmatt said:
Hi all - my poor Kaiser has suffered the dreaded RLOD. Tried every possible fix short of a new battery... which I should get in the mail this week.
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Not sure what to suggest re a replacement (and your budget will likely come into it as well) but how about detailing all the fixes you've tried - you may have missed one or two and there have been extensive posts on the topic here. It'd be much preferable, I'm sure you agree, to fix it at low or nil cost rather than having to buy a replacement.
Hey guys - first off, thanks for the suggestions above. The offerings from my carrier are weak (best right now is Touch Diamond) but I may look for an aftermarket Tilt 2.
Flying Kiwi, I would definitely be happy to get my Tilt working again - even just to squeeze a few more months out until the Hero is available here. I've read through every thread I could find about RLOD and haven't had any luck. Its actually the second time I've had the red light... the first time was about three months ago. I left the SIM and battery out overnight and the next day it came back to life... but my battery life was severely shortened after that. I could barely get 8 hours out of it before it was at 0%.
On Friday of last week it ran out of juice completely and RLOD was waiting for me in the morning. I tried leaving the battery and SIM out as before and I actually did get the amber light back at one point. I immediately plugged the charger in and hoped it would be fine like last time. Unfortunately the red light was back about 2 minutes later.
Based on the various posts on the subject, I've tried pressing buttons in a specific order, tried "jump starting" the battery, cleaned the contacts, etc... not even a hint of life. That's why I'm thinking that a new battery might be the only chance I have left. But if you know of any other methods I'd love to try!
Man, I miss my phone.....
Sounds familiar
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On Friday of last week it ran out of juice completely and RLOD was waiting for me in the morning. I tried leaving the battery and SIM out as before and I actually did get the amber light back at one point. I immediately plugged the charger in and hoped it would be fine like last time. Unfortunately the red light was back about 2 minutes later.
Based on the various posts on the subject, I've tried pressing buttons in a specific order, tried "jump starting" the battery, cleaned the contacts, etc... not even a hint of life. That's why I'm thinking that a new battery might be the only chance I have left. But if you know of any other methods I'd love to try!
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If you do have a known fully charged battery (perhaps borrowing a friends one) it'd be worth performing a hard reset. It does sound like a spot of the same trouble I briefly had a year or so ago though and I rectified it very quickly with a careful, thorough contact clean (both the spring contacts and battery terminals). I realise you've said you performed a contact clean but what did you use and how did you do it? I don't know if you're aware but it's possible for invisible film to ruin the connection and what looks like a clean connection could still be to blame... If you have a cradle charger, you could also try charging the battery in that before fitting it and perfoming a hard reset. They're cheap enough to buy and enable you to charge 2 batteries at a time (1 in the phone and 1 in the cradle bay).
No luck.... just tried to clean it again with acetone and still the red light. Twas a good thought though!!
And I've searched around for a replacement battery but no one around here has this particular phone... its not generally available up here so I bought one from eBay.
Contact cleaner is cheap enough
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No luck.... just tried to clean it again with acetone and still the red light. Twas a good thought though!!
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I wouldn't give up on that being a cause, especially given the 2 mins on charge scenario. I suggest you use the product specifically designed for such cleaning jobs, contact cleaner (and apply it with the end of a cotton bud soaked in the stuff). A few gentle rubs with this will ensure it's electrically connecting fine.
And I've searched around for a replacement battery but no one around here has this particular phone... its not generally available up here so I bought one from eBay.
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I bought a battery (and cradle charger bundle) from eBay for my Kaiser and although it works, the quality certainly wasn't up to the original one that came with the phone. It doesn't fit as well either and causes the back cover to protrude a little rather than sitting flush. Twas very cheap though
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I wouldn't give up on that being a cause, especially given the 2 mins on charge scenario.
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hehe, ok I'm not particularly patient
I will definitely leave it charging overnight and hope that it decides to spring to life. My biggest concern is that the red light stays on even if the battery out - while plugged in of course. Just makes me think the phone itself is pooched.
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I bought a battery (and cradle charger bundle) from eBay for my Kaiser and although it works, the quality certainly wasn't up to the original one that came with the phone. It doesn't fit as well either and causes the back cover to protrude a little rather than sitting flush. Twas very cheap though
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I wish I'd thought of that before ordering this new battery... although if it works I'll likely order another battery and cradle as a back up right away.
Although now that I'm looking at these Touch Pro 2s on eBay they're looking very tempting.
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hehe, ok I'm not particularly patient
I will definitely leave it charging overnight and hope that it decides to spring to life. My biggest concern is that the red light stays on even if the battery out - while plugged in of course. Just makes me think the phone itself is pooched.
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You needn't think that because the battery has to be installed (and working) for the phone to run - I'd definitely suggest you don't try charging without a battery installed again. This is because some electronic circuits which are designed to be run under load can sometimes be damaged if powed up while not loaded (PSUs inside PCs are a good example). It's worth buying a small can of specialist contact cleaner. It's cheap enough and will do the best job possible in the situation if used with some cotton buds/Q-Tips.
Although now that I'm looking at these Touch Pro 2s on eBay they're looking very tempting.
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You mustn't have got to the bit with the price in it then (nor checked whether they have full Qualcomm accelerated graphics driver support to perform optimally for an MSM72xx chipset device) Still, they do appear to be an improvement over the Kaiser if only a limited one.
I'd definitely suggest you don't try charging without a battery installed again.
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Um how do you charge a battery without it being in the phone? Seriously you have the strangest advice ever..
? get another battery and hard reset to the phone to fix the red light? Wouldn't the friends battery just show you that he needs another battery?
Dear person with broken phone. Try your new battery, Good luck..
Seems like the original battery is worn out and the phone has drained every drop. Most likely there are some capacitors or something that aren't getting charged because of the charger board not having power.. I've seen devices that work like this, there isn't enough juice to start it up and charge the battery or even power the phone properly. I'm sure there is some sort of small bios type battery on there that is drained as well.
Giving it my best shot
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Um how do you charge a battery without it being in the phone?
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I give up, how do you charge a battery without it being in the phone? It is possible to plug in the charger and power it without a battery installed however (although the phone wont boot in this state) and this may cause damage.
? get another battery and hard reset to the phone to fix the red light? Wouldn't the friends battery just show you that he needs another battery?
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It may but a hard reset may also show that some corruption in the ROM may be to blame or contributing to the problem and of course a hard reset isn't possible with a flat battery. I'm not willing to rule either out as a potential cause of the problem at this stage.
Dear person with broken phone. Try your new battery, Good luck..
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Something we agree on again ChumleyEX, see we do have alot in common you know. I even like cats too
Well damn, I can't say anything negative to someone that likes cats.
Hey guys - I appreciate all of the advice, really do.
Good to know that the red light should be on while charging with the battery out... not something I was doing for a long period, just happened while I was trying the various fixes. Hopefully the new battery comes in and works because I wouldn't be rushing to drop $700+ on a Touch Pro 2.
Oh and I like cats too.
Wanted to provide a (late) update. My Kaiser's problem was purely battery-related. I finally got a new battery today and the RLOD cleared up right away.
Not sure if it will come back or whether my battery life will be compromised, though...
so a few of you may remember I took the plunge and bought an ebay extended battery. I'm here to report that not only do they work, they work great! I used my phone from 8 AM yesterday to about 2 AM and it still had about 20% left!!! And I was using GPS, phone calls, heavy internet browsing application installing, and more. Not to mention I just got the thing so it's probably not even broken in yet. The back is extended out a bit, but really it actually feels more solid than the standard cover. I'm 100% satisfied... for $15 shipped this is 1000000% worth it!
This is the battery I bought, it's 2000 mAh, so it needs an extended cover which this seller included with the order. I actually made a mistake and bought the P3050 version I guess it's GSM? Not sure exactly, but it didn't fit, so I emailed him and he mailed out the proper one for the Sprint CDMA version. If you email him, he should be able to help, nice guy.
http://cgi.ebay.com/2000mAh-BATTERY...Accessories?hash=item3353df7d3a#ht_2399wt_935
Just thought I'd share my success! Everyone (including myself) thought these things were garbage, but in fact this is a pretty high quality product
Pics
http://picasaweb.google.com/berardi1111/ExtendedBattery?feat=directlink
Hit or miss
For me, buying batteries on ebay has been a hit or miss experience. 50% good, 50 % crap (out of 6).
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For me, buying batteries on ebay has been a hit or miss experience. 50% good, 50 % crap (out of 6).
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I agree, but this guy did me a favor. I bought the wrong one (wrong battery cover) and he hooked me up!
Berardi,
That's a great news.
I'll get one, if I need a new battery.
My standard battery life is now much better than before. Last weekend, I used a golf rangefinder (GPS for yardage). My battery died right after I hit my 2nd shot to the 18th green.
can you take a picture of the back at a different angle?
From the picture it looked aweful... like a step and then flat on the top part
For now i've been leaving my phone charged most of the time and carrying aspare battery rather than an extended one but with the use of GPS/BT/ Internet i can hardly squeeze more than 5-6 hrs before i have to replace or charge mine...
I wish the Extended batter can "blend" in more with the phone rather than the protuding and funny looking cover ...
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Berardi,
That's a great news.
I'll get one, if I need a new battery.
My standard battery life is now much better than before. Last weekend, I used a golf rangefinder (GPS for yardage). My battery died right after I hit my 2nd shot to the 18th green.
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GPS definitely drains the battery like no other. I use my phone pretty heavily, not extremely heavy on GPS like you would with golf rangefinder, but I can't imagine you being able to drain this thing in less than a few hours. Compared to my 1500 mah Seidio, a Japanese brand battery that is supposedly a very good brand, this is a pretty large increase. I'd give it a shot I would buy from this guy if I were you, he's good about responding to emails and fixing problems. Like I said, I bought the wrong version accidentally and he fixed it for me.
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can you take a picture of the back at a different angle?
From the picture it looked aweful... like a step and then flat on the top part
For now i've been leaving my phone charged most of the time and carrying aspare battery rather than an extended one but with the use of GPS/BT/ Internet i can hardly squeeze more than 5-6 hrs before i have to replace or charge mine...
I wish the Extended batter can "blend" in more with the phone rather than the protuding and funny looking cover ...
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Yeah it does stick out about maybe 3/8 of an inch? But truthfully, it feels more solid in my hands when I'm typing and using it. I don't know if it's because the old back cover was so beat up, or if it's actually that the extra back makes it fit better in my hand, it just seems to fit better. Here I took some pics.
http://picasaweb.google.com/berardi1111/ExtendedBattery?feat=directlink
It does stick out in the battery area and not the top area and a small area not sticking out at the bottom, but it really doesn't bother me in the least. I've used mostly larger phones in the past, like the Mogul so I'm used to a larger size and prefer it actually. YMMV but I'm extremely satisfied
will it work with wm?
or is it just for android?
Holy crap that's massive!
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will it work with wm?
or is it just for android?
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I'm sure it was originally designed for Wm.
mrono said:
Holy crap that's massive!
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ha ha I'd say it extends from standard width by 1/3 I don't mind it I actually prefer it lol
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will it work with wm?
or is it just for android?
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are you serious?!? everybody KNOWS this battery will specifically only work with android, if it senses WM on your phone it will begin a self destruct sequence and your phone will blow up.
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ok, sorry, just kidding. no battery is specific to an operating system to the best of my knowledge.
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are you serious?!? everybody KNOWS this battery will specifically only work with android, if it senses WM on your phone it will begin a self destruct sequence and your phone will blow up.
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ok, sorry, just kidding. no battery is specific to an operating system to the best of my knowledge.
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hahahaha thats pretty damn funny!
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are you serious?!? everybody KNOWS this battery will specifically only work with android, if it senses WM on your phone it will begin a self destruct sequence and your phone will blow up.
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Thanks for the heads up, I almost ordered one until I saw the warning. (actually it was the picture that turned me off)
http://www.expansys-usa.com/sony-er...m2o-g.s.K2zbkhpYPWk_PWFbCw&ito=LKSPvTvb1zzm2o
Enjoy, I purchased one.
I did too: €56,83 including delivery to the UK from Expansys France. Some reviews (at least in French) say it is a female watch. Looks quite big and male too me. We shall see.
With an name like "evening classic" one would get the impression it is a women's watch. However from the pictures it certainly looks like a mens watch to me.
Got it now - looks male and big but the wrist strap is too short
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Got it now - looks male and big but the wrist strap is too short
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Yea I had the same problem, it fit on the last hole. Also the display on mine faded to where you can't see it in the first night. Is yours still working?
I guess all the functions work with the PLAY? (I have small wrists, this would be good!)
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I guess all the functions work with the PLAY? (I have small wrists, this would be good!)
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With the openwatch program everything worked great, its just that the display quit in less then 12 hours.
Had mine for 3 days, does not seem to have any problems with the screen or battery but maybe because i haven't discharged it yet. Vibrates and shows messages on the screen so the display was used only limited number of times. Hope it won't fade quickly as paid more money to replace the wrist band.
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"MBW-200 series comes in three distinct designs; Sparkling Allure, Contemporary Elegance and Evening Classic. "
"Missed an important call or SMS because you couldn’t hear or find your phone at the bottom of your handbag?"
Now, unless things are THAT much different between the US and the EU, I would think those 2 lines would be a dead give-away that this was intended to be a Ladies' watch.
That would explain the wrist band being so small, as well.
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"MBW-200 series comes in three distinct designs; Sparkling Allure, Contemporary Elegance and Evening Classic. "
"Missed an important call or SMS because you couldn’t hear or find your phone at the bottom of your handbag?"
Now, unless things are THAT much different between the US and the EU, I would think those 2 lines would be a dead give-away that this was intended to be a Ladies' watch.
That would explain the wrist band being so small, as well.
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http://www.phonearena.com/reviews/Sony-Ericsson-MBW-200-Evening-Classic-Review_id2206
The important part:
....Sony Ericsson MBW-200 Evening Classic, a device of the “modern ladies” lineup of devices of the manufacturer.
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Too bad I already asked for it for Christmas. Also I mean the damn thing is huge compared to a normal ladies watch, and the design is similar to any mens watch, so would it really be that bad for a man to wear?
EDIT: I looked up the other 2 watches in the lineup and they are very obviously Women's in design....
Don't worry it is huge and doesn't look female. Strap is too short for big wrist however. Battery on mine is only one third down after more than five days use. Some report it last only hours but redoing Bluetooth connection from scratch seems to fix it for them. No led problems on mine yet. I was surprised to keep in car Bluetooth connection despite watch being connected to phone all the time.
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I've got the MBW150 Music Edition and the MBW200 Evening Classic. The 200 does look more feminine but it's nothing that can't be solved by switching to a more manly band. There is a tiny crystal at the 12 o'clock position but no one will ever judge it on that alone.
The 150 was available in Classic, Executive, and Music editions with leather, metallic link, and rubber wrist bands respectively. I don't think the name implies what gender it is for.
Btw on first charge it lasted 7 days and a bit. On second charge it is only 1/3 discharged after almost 10 days. Connected to the phone all the time.
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I got the 200 for Christmas today, I have to say looking at it, it does have a bit of a feminine look to it, but that goes right out the window when you see the digital display. I showed my family who thought it was one of the craziest things they ever saw (they are easily impressed). It works great so far, all the functions are good. Also I have small wrists so the band works for me.
I did disconnect it from my phone since its now sitting in my watch box, and I likely won't leave it connected all the time as I won't be wearing it except at work or when I go out. Don't want to destroy it when I'm working on the car or something.
Well this sucks. After 15 days it stopped turning on even though the battery said it still had half its juice left. So i plugged it in, charged it, and it will charge, but as soon as I disconnect the charger its dead as a rock.
They are taking mine on return exchange, but their site no longer lists it, I have a feeling I'm getting a refund.
lol if you want my opinion...
are you THAT LAZY!
or is this Buck Rodgers 1984 dystopian nightmare.
Just glad I'm not wearing one. wouldn't want to catch the flak from looking like a nerd
Hogwarts said:
lol if you want my opinion...
are you THAT LAZY!
or is this Buck Rodgers 1984 dystopian nightmare.
Just glad I'm not wearing one. wouldn't want to catch the flak from looking like a nerd
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No, but its a cool gadget. I like gadgets. In fact everyone who saw it complimented on how cool it was.
Go back to ripping off developers.
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Well this sucks. After 15 days it stopped turning on even though the battery said it still had half its juice left. So i plugged it in, charged it, and it will charge, but as soon as I disconnect the charger its dead as a rock.
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Same happend with my 200. Did teardown and replaced the internal battery. Month later and its still rocking.
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I've had a MBW-150 for 3 or so years, never had an issue and always used! I highly recommend purchase, though at $300, I would avoid the -150
I just got an LG Optimus 2x from Wind and after *thwip*-ing the screen left and right for several hours, it came to my attention that smartphones can do a lot more than simply sliding the screen horizontally. They can do it vertically too. So after several more hours of that and 11 minutes of porn later, I decided I wanted to root this thing. Burying it in soil and sprinkling water on it didn't work for some reason so I questioned the almighty Google - it led me here.
My phone has Froyo 2.2 (I think?) and I want to gain root permissions and upgrade to CM7. At least that's what I was told on Youtube, dude named analcobra said I want CM7 and who am I to question a guy named analcobra?
Any help is appreciated, I'll post a pic of my tits in return.
well first off welcome to xda, secondly all the info you need is right here just use the search fucntion, people dont like it when you dont use it lol,
i wish i could help you root your phone etc, but i have only just got the o2x myself , did have previous phones but each phone has a different way of getting root etc,
Just download superoneclick, follow instructions, root, download rom manager off android market to flash a recovery image, download cm7 to the root of your sdcard, reboot into recovery and flash cm7 the end, tits please?
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I just got an LG Optimus 2x from Wind and after *thwip*-ing the screen left and right for several hours, it came to my attention that smartphones can do a lot more than simply sliding the screen horizontally. They can do it vertically too. So after several more hours of that and 11 minutes of porn later, I decided I wanted to root this thing. Burying it in soil and sprinkling water on it didn't work for some reason so I questioned the almighty Google - it led me here.
My phone has Froyo 2.2 (I think?) and I want to gain root permissions and upgrade to CM7. At least that's what I was told on Youtube, dude named analcobra said I want CM7 and who am I to question a guy named analcobra?
Any help is appreciated, I'll post a pic of my tits in return.
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Dude, you're funny.
Congrats to both of you for your new toys and welcome to XDA.
My personal recommendation, is to read around, stay at stock for a week. Root it maybe, stay for another week or 2, before choosing the ROM that you want to try first.
Staying on stock with all LG crapware and stuff will allow you to:
1) Know if there are any hardware issues your phone might have which should prompt you to return it to the store.
2) Allow you to appreciate rooting and custom ROMs better.
I also recommend lurking on the Android development threads and back reading maybe 5 pages of the more active threads. That way, you'll know what the pros and cons of each ROM is. And you'll know what you'll get yourself into after flashing. (So you don't cry out that you don't have FM radio when you just flashed an ICS ROM.)
My immediate recommendations for 1st time CyanogenMod flashers would be Temasek's CM7 of course. As it is a very active thread, and support is definitely abundant.
Anyway, adjust your LCD brightness, and prepare to read stuff.
Above all, have fun.
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I just got an LG Optimus 2x from Wind and after *thwip*-ing the screen left and right for several hours, it came to my attention that smartphones can do a lot more than simply sliding the screen horizontally. They can do it vertically too. So after several more hours of that and 11 minutes of porn later, I decided I wanted to root this thing. Burying it in soil and sprinkling water on it didn't work for some reason so I questioned the almighty Google - it led me here.
My phone has Froyo 2.2 (I think?) and I want to gain root permissions and upgrade to CM7. At least that's what I was told on Youtube, dude named analcobra said I want CM7 and who am I to question a guy named analcobra?
Any help is appreciated, I'll post a pic of my tits in return.
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All the folks are right above, proceed accordingly.
However, keep in mind that your device is not an O2X(P990) but a G2X(P999), so to prevent yourself from some hassle(bricking your phone,etc.), check the T-Mobile G2X thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1114
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DupleX01 said:
However, keep in mind that your device is not an O2X(P990) but a G2X(P999), so to prevent yourself from some hassle(bricking your phone,etc.), check the T-Mobile G2X thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1114
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Thanks, probably would have missed that.
Also, what's with the battery on this thing? I switched my phone off last night (at 62%) and when I turned it on this morning, it was at 25%. Is it supposed to lose that much power even while it's turned off, or do I just have a faulty device?[/color]
Damn, that's bad. Is it a new phone? I only lose 3-4 percent a night when it's not even turned off (just the screen). But I can imagine it's the fault of the original LG ****ware, I had to install it a week ago because I bricked my phone, and after 2 minutes of the CLEAN install it was already lagging heavily.
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Thanks, probably would have missed that.
Also, what's with the battery on this thing? I switched my phone off last night (at 62%) and when I turned it on this morning, it was at 25%. Is it supposed to lose that much power even while it's turned off, or do I just have a faulty device?[/color]
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How new is your phone? You might just need to drain the batt, then charge it to full.
If it still happens, something's wrong with your phone. Take it back to the shop.
Stock froyo roms only use 1% of battery on idle. (2g network use only. No wifi or gps.)
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The phone's brand new, I got it like two days ago. The battery was already really low when I got it so I let it die and then charged it back up to like 90% before unplugging it. I'll drain it, charge it again, and then see how things go before returning it I guess. It lost 1% (with the screen turned) off in the last 12 minutes. D:
I don't have a data plan on this (aside from the free 100mb that comes with Wind25) so I had Wind disable the data on it. I also turned off the wifi before turning the phone off last night because I thought it'd save power. Would that have anything to do with it or is my inner noob showing?
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I don't have a data plan on this (aside from the free 100mb that comes with Wind25) so I had Wind disable the data on it. I also turned off the wifi before turning the phone off last night because I thought it'd save power. Would that have anything to do with it or is my inner noob showing?
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Yes. Turning off wifi if you're not going to use it would help.
Having an enabled wifi either:
1) Keeps searching for networks that it can connect to
2) Once connected, will background sync/update certain apps. (i.e. Google Play)
I just noticed that if I do things that are supposed to conserve battery power, they use up more. Switching to 2g only, turning off wifi, etc. I lost 5% in one hour doing that, but when I turned everything back on, I only lost 1% in one hour.
In any case, the battery seems to be doing a little better than yesterday, maybe I just have to drain/charge it a few more times to sort it out? Has anyone else ever had similar problems before?
Gavin, I'm a new smart phone user too and have the same phone from windmobile and the first thing I noticed about the phone was how quickly the battery can drain. I thought it was defective or something but no, that's how it is. Mine would be dead from a full charge in less than 14 hours and that's without any usage, which is shocking and made me consider cancelling my plan. I do have data running however. Anyway, there are a bunch of apps available that can preserve the battery life. I've tried 3 or 4 and the last one (just found it 2 days ago from the Play Store) is the best by far. It's called "battery defender". I fully charged my phone yesterday and after a whole day (24 hrs) I checked the battery status and it showed 90% left (the app adds a battery icon that shows % left). Pretty damn good for a phone that used to be dead in less than 14 hours. I'm extremely happy. You can also try "juice defender" (the first app I tried) but that will probably give you 2 1/2 days on a full charge, which isn't bad.
BTW, draining and charging the batt won't do much if anything at all and in fact it ISN'T recommended that you let it drain below 20%.
Check out those apps and download one. They're free and they DO work. Also, get yourself a car batt charger too and maybe an extra battery.
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I just noticed that if I do things that are supposed to conserve battery power, they use up more. Switching to 2g only, turning off wifi, etc. I lost 5% in one hour doing that, but when I turned everything back on, I only lost 1% in one hour.
In any case, the battery seems to be doing a little better than yesterday, maybe I just have to drain/charge it a few more times to sort it out? Has anyone else ever had similar problems before?
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No need to repeat cycling the battery. You can maybe do it once every 2 months and that's plenty for Lithium Ions.
Electroman is right. Optimum charging cycles go rom discharging only to 20%, then charging back up to 80%. And repeat.
About your battery being worse when you actually disabled your network stuff. I'm thinking you have apps or widgets that are configured to update every so often. And with the network out, they keep on refreshing themselves.
I personally didn't see huge gains from Juice Defender, but those batt saving apps are definitely worth a try.
Wonder if wind is putting any dodgy apps on the phone that use battery up?
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@ Elecktroman: Thanks, I'll give Battery Defender a shot.
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Optimum charging cycles go rom discharging only to 20%, then charging back up to 80%.
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That's good to know. Why is it best to stop at 80% though? Just curious. .-.
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@ Elecktroman: Thanks, I'll give Battery Defender a shot.
That's good to know. Why is it best to stop at 80% though? Just curious. .-.
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Cuz the voltage gets high and reduces the life of the battery. Sort of an increase in MAH at the risk of overcharging and slowly killing the battery. 20-80% is ideal but **** that!
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@ Elecktroman: Thanks, I'll give Battery Defender a shot.
That's good to know. Why is it best to stop at 80% though? Just curious. .-.
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Mungulz actually gave a pretty good summary. For more details though, you can check out this Lifehacker article:
http://lifehacker.com/5875162/how-often-should-i-charge-my-gadgets-battery-to-prolong-its-lifespan
Hello everyone,
I've enjoyed this watch even if the battery life sucks since the beginning!! especially coming from the Samsung Gear S3, which has never ever lasted less than a day (24 hours).
Since the last Android Wear 2.0 update, the battery life is even worse, although I doubt it's actually linked, probably just a coincidence, but my watch hasn't make it through the afternoon for few weeks now. Barely 6 hours (with EVERYTHING disable, even bluetooth, in Airplane mode).
As of today, the watch will turn on and turn off few seconds later regardless the battery %.
Lg answered nicely that they would take a look at it, and ask $20 for the diagnostic if I don't want them to process the fix!!! And I read online that the battery replacement is $60. I would rather throw it away...
Anyway, I have 2 questions :
Does someone knows where to source this damn battery (BL-S7)?? Out of stock on ebay
Did someone try to fit a Watch Urbane battery (BL-S6) which is 570mAh instead of 430mAh? Or anyone knows this battery size? (I know the connector is different but at this point it's not the biggest issue )
That could help many people meeting issues with this watch... (I'm done with LG!!)
Thanks!!
Ok, I found the answer to my second question, and obviously bigger capacity = battery battery
the BL-S6 (Urban 2nd G) is about 31x27
the BL-S7 (Sport Watch) is about 28x27
So I'm still interested to know where to buy the BL-S7.
Thanks,
Assuming I can find a BL-S7 battery, how easy is it to strip the watch down to change?
My watch is so random with shutdowns and % battery left remaining I am thinking it is all down to the battery after over 18 months daily usage/charging.
Also interested in this.
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Assuming I can find a BL-S7 battery, how easy is it to strip the watch down to change?
My watch is so random with shutdowns and % battery left remaining I am thinking it is all down to the battery after over 18 months daily usage/charging.
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Disassembly is fairly easy if you take your time and disconnect the connection points. Nothing is really glued in place aside from the bottom cover and the battery to the rest of the chassis. I was able to get to the battery within 20 minutes.
I was also able to find a battery on ebay. We'll see how assembly goes when it's delivered.
That is great, do you have the link to the battery on ebay?
Did you also have the same issues with random shutdowns, not being able to restart unless on the charger etc?
Keep us posted!
Thanks.
I confirm that disassembling the watch is pretty easy and quick, the only thing is you can say goodbye to the waterproof!
@sirdizzle415, does it come with the sealing? Please keep us updated if it does fix the reboot issue and if can even share the link :angel:
I only found 1 used....
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I confirm that disassembling the watch is pretty easy and quick, the only thing is you can say goodbye to the waterproof!
@sirdizzle415, does it come with the sealing? Please keep us updated if it does fix the reboot issue and if can even share the link :angel:
I only found 1 used....
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I wouldn't trust it to be waterproof anymore, but I'm mostly ok with that. If this watch survives a little while longer with a used $25 battery, I'd call that a win over buying another $300+ watch.
I should be getting the new battery tomorrow, should be pretty quick to put it back together. We'll see what happens.
FYI, My new battery is still in route, so haven't had a chance to test it. It is available brand new on ebay though... If anyone wants to give it a try, the link is here: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Genuine-Wa...1e1230fc8:m:mALL_k1FrV1tgtB_vyDJXTg:rk:1:pf:0
Make sure to select the LG-S7 battery for the Watch Sport.
Successful install of the battery! Watch no longer shuts off, and doesn't need to be on the charger to turn on.
I did try to carefully take my old battery apart. Multiple sources mentioned that it can be repaired by soldering a zero ohm link/resistor between two points. I could not identify them on the BL-S7 battery, so I probably won't be doing that.
All in all, it was a $25 dollar battery for me, so not a bad price to pay to extend the life.
I just ordered the one from ebay! That's great it's back in stock!! @sirdizzle415 Yours was a used one?? how did you glue back the back cover?
I know the watch won't be waterproof anymore, but I'm ok with that too.
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I just ordered the one from ebay! That's great it's back in stock!! @sirdizzle415 Yours was a used one?? how did you glue back the back cover?
I know the watch won't be waterproof anymore, but I'm ok with that too.
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My existing seal was mostly intact. The back cover also has tabs that snap it back in place.
Placed my order for a new battery.
There is simply nothing else to replace the Sport with LTE currently...unless you like apples.
I just received the new battery!
Results are not so great so far, the watch does stay alive and do not reboot/ shut down randomly anymore.
But after an hour using it to update app, hard reset it, I lost 40%... I didn't charge the battery yet, so I don't want to be pessimistic (yet) but I think my main issue wasn't the battery.
The watch seems too warm to me, probably something wrong with the hardware, other than the battery.
Plus, damn the watch is so slow with the new version of Android wear, so laggy!!
But true there is no better android watch anyway, which is a shame...
It seems that replacing the battery actually fixed the issue! I'm getting now a day and half of battery with only the bluetooth and NFC activated...
The watch is still slow from time to time, I have to tap the screen several time before it actually wakes up.
But for 20 bucks I guess it was the right move.
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I just received the new battery!
Results are not so great so far, the watch does stay alive and do not reboot/ shut down randomly anymore.
But after an hour using it to update app, hard reset it, I lost 40%... I didn't charge the battery yet, so I don't want to be pessimistic (yet) but I think my main issue wasn't the battery.
The watch seems too warm to me, probably something wrong with the hardware, other than the battery.
Plus, damn the watch is so slow with the new version of Android wear, so laggy!!
But true there is no better android watch anyway, which is a shame...
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I think right around this day, I received a Wear OS update that really hurt the battery life... it's been better since, but I definitely remember a day recently when I got an update and battery life was terrible for me.
Just replaced my battery.
Straight forward job, managed to keep the seal in place too.
Watch started up with what little charge was in the new battery, 16%, which is promising, it wouldn't before, and also all the apps /configuration haven't been lost either.
The only disappointment is that the new battery is not actually new.
Okay it may not be used, but it was dated late 2016, actually slightly older than the battery it replaced, early 2017.
See how I get on with it now....
A new battery is a must!
I'm getting a constant 7am until 11pm, 16 hours off cradle, with 50% still remaining, and that is with LTE on all day, including everything else too!
The combination of new battery, and latest firmware updates has just transformed the usage and battery life.
It is a must upgrade!
Hello, I'm from EU, is there any possibility to get new battery now? I looked on eBay and it looks like all are sold out.. :/
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Just after keep watching.
Ebay seller when this thread first started sold out, but got more stock later.
Worth pursueing still very happy after changing my battery.