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Developer Support: Who, Which and What?

Hello, now as the title suggests I am looking to create a list or a count of the amount of developers, whether it would be Source Code Developers (CM, Omni, Slim, PA, etc.) or Kitchen Developers (Modified Stock ROMs). That will be supporting the Note 4 and what version i.e. Snapdragon or Exynos.
Having this list as easy to read and accessible, might be what determines what model of the Note 4 people purchase.
So if you wouldn't mind can all the developers interested in the Note 4 answer the poll and/or post a comment in the thread about what you plan to do/support.
P.S. I also thought it would be a good idea to have a couple of option for non-developers to choose, what with the updated information on Exynos and Snapdragon.

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I'll just post here to draw attention to my signature - if people want the Perseus kernel on Note 4, please consider donating. We're nearly halfway there!

SquidgyB said:
I'll just post here to draw attention to my signature - if people want the Perseus kernel on Note 4, please consider donating. We're nearly halfway there!
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can 910c and 910u use same firmware?

tmac31 said:
can 910c and 910u use same firmware?
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I believe only small modifications would be necessary to make a kernel work for the different Exynos variants. I'm no expert on this though - confirmation from a dev or knowledgeable user would be good.

[UNOFFICIAL] Xposed Regarding Samsung ROMs on Lollipop

From rovo89's post
Regarding Samsung ROMs: No progress. No ETA. No promise that it will be supported, although I don't exclude it either. It's simply unclear what further differences between their and AOSP's ART variant come up.
There are two ways to help bring Xposed for Lollipop to Samsung ROMs.
1. If you like his work, feel free to donate.
2. Track down some developers to do the research on Samsung ART.
If Samsung users want Xposed, then we all need to help.

garyfunk said:
From rovo89's post
Regarding Samsung ROMs: No progress. No ETA. No promise that it will be supported, although I don't exclude it either. It's simply unclear what further differences between their and AOSP's ART variant come up.
There are two ways to help bring Xposed for Lollipop to Samsung ROMs.
1. If you like his work, feel free to donate.
2. Track down some developers to do the research on Samsung ART.
If Samsung users want Xposed, then we all need to help.
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Agreed. I can definitely help with #1.

mmaccon said:
Agreed. I can definitely help with #1.
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Thank you. I sent mine a few hours ago.

I donate Xposed for Samsung TW S6 edge. Because i love xposed, and still wait... Guys please donate Rovo for xposed TW...
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Also donated for Xposed on the S6 edge.

Money will help but skilled Samsung ART devs is better option. Since Xposed is not full time job or so, donations dont make rovo89 coding more.
Even LG started messing ART code what is not good.

I believe in Rovo

garyfunk said:
From rovo89's post
Regarding Samsung ROMs: No progress. No ETA. No promise that it will be supported, although I don't exclude it either. It's simply unclear what further differences between their and AOSP's ART variant come up.
There are two ways to help bring Xposed for Lollipop to Samsung ROMs.
1. If you like his work, feel free to donate.
2. Track down some developers to do the research on Samsung ART.
If Samsung users want Xposed, then we all need to help.
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Are you really saying that rovo89 will develop a version for us Samsung Lollipop users ONLY IF we donate some money??
Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Tab Pro 10.1

No. I am not saying that.
I am saying that we need to Support the Developers. Samsung users need to show support in numbers.

Do not donate him in order to get something done, thats like paying him to do something. Donate for what he has done and help him with his future work instead.

RusherDude said:
Do not donate him in order to get something done, thats like paying him to do something. Donate for what he has done and help him with his future work instead.
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Exactly. Donate because you like his work. I liked Xposed on 4.4 and I contributed because of that. I hope someday to have Xposed on TW roms.

Samsung really has their own form of ART? How can that be?

no...
that does not make any sense, i think

As you all might be able to tell, I just spent a few minutes cleaning up the garbage in this thread. Having said that, I suggest sticking to the topic at hand and also abiding by the forum rules.
Thanks
Magnum_Enforcer
FSM

Magnum_Enforcer said:
As you all might be able to tell, I just spent a few minutes cleaning up the garbage in this thread. Having said that, I suggest sticking to the topic at hand and also abiding by the forum rules.
Thanks
Magnum_Enforcer
FSM
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Thank you. I appreciate your work.

Cr4z33 said:
Are you really saying that rovo89 will develop a version for us Samsung Lollipop users ONLY IF we donate some money??
Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Tab Pro 10.1
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For the longest time rovo89 didn't even accept donations. It wasn't until Google decided to make ART the default and sole Android runtime that he changed his mind. I imagine because porting Xposed to ART is such a massive undertaking and that he very likely has some development costs such as time and bricked devices associated with it, but that's just a personal guess.
I'm no developer so the best way that I can support his efforts is by donating to the cause. The majority of users feel the same way, hence the suggestion. I'm willing to bet that rovo would rather have some solid dev contributions than monetary ones.

Maybe it works on S4 I9505 with workaround?!
Hi there,
I already know that the Samsung Lollipop stock roms TW-based Roms aren't supported...
But on this page from Phonearena some PeterK. claims that it's possible to get it working with a workaround, and in the comments (see comment 4 & 6) the author claims also, that he made this on a S4 i9505 TW-Rom.
Did anyone try it and find it working also?
Would be very good news if it's true and finally I would update also
Thx for your help with this!

Gachmuret said:
Hi there,
I already know that the Samsung Lollipop stock roms TW-based Roms aren't supported...
But on this page from Phonearena some PeterK. claims that it's possible to get it working with a workaround, and in the comments (see comment 4 & 6) the author claims also, that he made this on a S4 i9505 TW-Rom.
Did anyone try it and find it working also?
Would be very good news if it's true and finally I would update also
Thx for your help with this!
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no it doesn't work.

Gachmuret said:
Hi there,
I already know that the Samsung Lollipop stock roms TW-based Roms aren't supported...
But on this page from Phonearena some PeterK. claims that it's possible to get it working with a workaround, and in the comments (see comment 4 & 6) the author claims also, that he made this on a S4 i9505 TW-Rom.
Did anyone try it and find it working also?
Would be very good news if it's true and finally I would update also
Thx for your help with this!
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He says it's working on the S4 but he doesn't say what ROM.

garyfunk said:
He says it's working on the S4 but he doesn't say what ROM.
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Yeah, but he replies to someone who says that it won't work with TW by saying it will work
so normally it should be logic, that he meant stockrom with TW... But right he didn't say it explicitly
And here's what's in the comments:
"4. RandomUsername posted on 16 Feb 2015, 10:57 +1
I read that it doesn't work with TouchWiz.
Reply
6. PeterK. posted on 17 Feb 2015, 01:16 +1
An S4 (GT-I9505) was being used for the purposes of this guide, so it will work."
Anyway... Could it be that Samsungs modified ART isn't integrated to all models n therefore it could work on some? Right now I'm to busy to check but after some time I'll give it a try... if there isn't an official solution till then

Holding one plus to account

I am starting this thread to keep discussion alive regarding one plus promises to us the Android enthusiast community - these are recent posts from the 6t twrp dev thread in response to @FuNkwizzard claim that one plus really cares about the development community - I have reached out to @FuNkwizzard to speak in pm although haven't heard anything back as yet.
Funk Wizard said:
For all those who have doubts buying this device, i can assure you for OnePlus devices, development is second to none so its just a matter of time.
Funk
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I'm assuming by now that you actually work for op ?
Maybe you could pass on the message to the customer support team who informed me only a couple of days ago 'we do not recommend unlocking bootloader or rooting and as such cannot give you the stock IMG to restore your device to factory settings' - of course I managed to find the fastboot file that I needed courtesy of @mauronofrio but this attitude from the online so called 'customer support team' this runs very contrary to what you are informing us of here which I have no doubt at all that what you are telling us is true. But - if op really wants to win over the Android enthusiast community then someone really needs to make sure that customer services know this!
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Yamvmax1 said:
OP is becoming to big for themselves. Time to find a new little guy.
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Well here's an idea, if op really is so committed (grateful - remember humble beginnings with so much support from the Android enthusiast community) - then give recognised developers their devices at the same time that they go into the hands of all the reviewers - they can surely ask them to sign non disclosure agreements in the same way that reviewers are asked to. Let's think about it, why are reviewers devices given to them before release - well it's simple, op is relying on the hype train to grow their brand - the Android enthusiast community is a tiny portion of their sales revenue, thus not that important really no matter what they say - come on Peter Lao and Carl Pei - show us with action that you really care about the Android enthusiast community with action including ensuring that your support team is ready to help us modders just as much as helping the average Joe - how about actually releasing the source code for the BLOB's to give us working HAL's so that we can actually use the hardware we have paid for the way that we want to. I attended the one plus 'open ears' event in London last year and spent the day on a working group with Carl, he seems like a genuinely nice guy, and super committed to his company and it seemed to us the users - my challenge to you Carl and Peter - show us that you are really 'listening' and stay true to where you began with the support you relied on in the early days from the Android enthusiast community by really supporting us rather than just passing lip service.
Now let's see how 'open' op is really and see if this post gets censured (I've kept a copy just in case it does get scrubbed and of course will start a brand new thread with it if need be!)
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Funk Wizard said:
I regret the inconvenience and feel sad that you did not have an enjoyable experience on contacting support as that is not what one would expect. Do you happen to have a ticket no or the transcript of the chat and/or the remote session ?
I can get someone to look into it, Thanks.
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I gave them my email address, full name, both IMEI numbers - so with all that info one would hope that there is some records somewhere.
Wait, yes, they sent me an email as well and booked in a remote session so that am engineer could flash my device - which was pretty infuriating really as clearly I am more than capable of doing that myself, if they just gave me the IMG file that they were surely going to flash my device with lol.
Shall we take this chat to telegram in private?
Sent from my OnePlus5 using XDA Labs
mauronofrio said:
I think this is not the right thread where to speak about oneplus support
I hope this time i will included in OnePlus dev program, for the OnePlus 6 the community bought me the device and i made fastboot roms, tool and i pushed the actual OnePlus 6 official TWRP. @FuNk Wizard what do you think? will this be possible?
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Of course, you are absolutely right - I had no desire to hijack your development thread, I was simply responding to the claim made by @funkwizard that op really cares about the Android enthusiast community - I will create a new thread in the 6t discussion forum so that this discussion can continue because I believe it is absolutely right to hold op to account. I do hope that op does provide you with a development device as clearly you are a committed dev working to support op community. I for one am very grateful for your work @mauronofrio

a70 source code released.

Hi guys,
Seems Samsung has released the opensource codes for galaxy a70 (sm-705gm) in Samsung open release center. Link given below.
http://opensource.samsung.com/reception/receptionSub.do?method=sub&sub=F&searchValue=705gm
If can be used to build custom roms and twrp, please go ahead.

senseijtitus said:
Hi guys,
Seems Samsung has released the opensource codes for galaxy a70 (sm-705gm) in Samsung open release center. Link given below.
http://opensource.samsung.com/reception/receptionSub.do?method=sub&sub=F&searchValue=705gm
If can be used to build custom roms and twrp, please go ahead.
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If you are not getting the file using the link, go to http://opensource.samsung.com & search with 705gm. You will get the file.

Does Not Matter If...
senseijtitus said:
Hi guys,
Seems Samsung has released the opensource codes for galaxy a70 (sm-705gm) in Samsung open release center. Link given below.
http://opensource.samsung.com/reception/receptionSub.do?method=sub&sub=F&searchValue=705gm
If can be used to build custom roms and twrp, please go ahead.
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Yes But...
Are any Developer's even buying this device?
That's The Million Dollar Queston..
Waiting To See What Happens..

I am interested in this device, but waiting to see how many dev's start working on it?
I think, All a70 users together, should request, some dev(s) to work on this device.
united we stand!
what you all say?

rrd84 said:
I am interested in this device, but waiting to see how many dev's start working on it?
I think, All a70 users together, should request, some dev(s) to work on this device.
united we stand!
what you all say?
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This was the situation with Lenovo p2. But dev's eventually got in and now they have a great development curve.... the p2 users donated money for one dev to buy p2 for development and well. That was initiated by a user. And development kickstarted soon after.

senseijtitus said:
This was the situation with Lenovo p2. But dev's eventually got in and now they have a great development curve.... the p2 users donated money for one dev to buy p2 for development and well. That was initiated by a user. And development kickstarted soon after.
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I'm in

I'm in but how we do that?

alsartawi said:
I'm in but how we do that?
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You mean donate or development?

senseijtitus said:
You mean donate or development?
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donation, but also how we can contact a developer for kernels and custom roms, i really want to see all s10 features on this device, also missing features like original samsung vibrate on touch for navbar and samsung keyboard.

alsartawi said:
donation, but also how we can contact a developer for kernels and custom roms, i really want to see all s10 features on this device, also missing features like original samsung vibrate on touch for navbar and samsung keyboard.
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We can check in custom rom telegram groups for this. But also check with certified developers in xda as well. PM would do here.

senseijtitus said:
We can check in custom rom telegram groups for this. But also check with certified developers in xda as well. PM would do here.
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But first, we need to organize users who would be able and willing to donate. Once enough people are there and we can figure out on total if the amount offered is sufficient enough, we can start contacting dev's. After we have a dev ready to help, then start pooling in money and purchase the set and send ot to the dev.

senseijtitus said:
But first, we need to organize users who would be able and willing to donate. Once enough people are there and we can figure out on total if the amount offered is sufficient enough, we can start contacting dev's. After we have a dev ready to help, then start pooling in money and purchase the set and send ot to the dev.
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just a heads up. according to XDA rules. donation threads have to be created by the developer itself who is interested in the device development. he has to green lit such a thread with an XDA admin. if it gets created by forum users it gets closed pretty soon as it is against the rules.
so first step would be finding an recognized developer willing to spend his free time on the device.

celoxocis said:
just a heads up. according to XDA rules. donation threads have to be created by the developer itself who is interested in the device development. he has to green lit such a thread with an XDA admin. if it gets created by forum users it gets closed pretty soon as it is against the rules.
so first step would be finding an recognized developer willing to spend his free time on the device.
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Agreed. But who can help with this...

senseijtitus said:
Agreed. But who can help with this...
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two options comes to mind.
A: look into devs that were or still are maintaining Samsung (Snapdragon based) phones and might be interested in the A70.
B: look into devs that maintain a device that has the same SoC (or SoC family) as those devs will have less than half as much work (it does depend on how far the kernel deviated from code aurora code) to maintain a second device if they have already established the knowledge on the primary device.

E.T.A. Unknown..
celoxocis said:
look into devs that were or still are maintaining Samsung (Snapdragon based) phones and might be interested in the A70.
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The Operative Phrase Here Is: "Still Maintaining Samsung (Snapdragon Based) Phones".
In the U.S... Samsung Snapdragon devices have their bootloaders locked down.. ( Per Carrier's Request ) so you have Zero ROM Development..
IMO.. you have to love this device for what it brings to the table stock ( Widvine L1, Themes, AR Emoji, UI, Gaming etc ) just in case nothing Custom sprouts.. :angel:

RaiderWill said:
The Operative Phrase Here Is: "Still Maintaining Samsung (Snapdragon Based) Phones".
In the U.S... Samsung Snapdragon devices have their bootloaders locked down.. ( Per Carrier's Request ) so you have Zero ROM Development..
IMO.. you have to love this device for what it brings to the table stock ( Widvine L1, Themes, AR Emoji, UI, Gaming etc ) just in case nothing Custom sprouts.. :angel:
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And Samsung pay

Yeah Buddy..
devilhunter47 said:
And Samsung pay
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I Stand Corrected Sir..
That's the most important of all !
Now.. How Could I Forget That...

https://yadi.sk/d/hABqno4EmUj4Wgwhat news about twrp?I have not loaded,where the committed mistake.if who is engaged in creation of twrp I can provide the map of blocks and other information

naruba said:
https://yadi.sk/d/hABqno4EmUj4Wgwhat news about twrp?I have not loaded,where the committed mistake.if who is engaged in creation of twrp I can provide the map of blocks and other information
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I am trying to make twrp for the device. Because this is my first time, I need device tree to be prepared. As of now, my attempts have not given any results. If you can help, would be great.

block map

Custom Rom availability?

When we can expect Custom Roms for Asus Rog 3?
Its been a month now, Asus send ROG 3 to some developers for testing device with custom roms but sadly no news till date. Despite of Unofficial TWRP & Few Great Kernels, development for this beauty is very slow!

Hopefully soon:fingers-crossed: (good things come to those who wait)
I would love to try a stock-based ROM with a plethora of enhanced features and options.

This is a good but not a popular phone. So I guess it'll take some time before we get a custom ROM. It'll come but if the community isn't big they will not be huge support on those ROMs. I know that Asus offered the phone to some devs as Lineage OS and Dirty Unicorns, but nothing is sure they will develop anything for this phone.
Here the list of developers who got the phone
https://www.xda-developers.com/asus-rog-phone-3-custom-roms-custom-kernels-development/amp/

bASKOU said:
This is a good but not a popular phone. So I guess it'll take some time before we get a custom ROM. It'll come but if the community isn't big they will not be huge support on those ROMs. I know that Asus offered the phone to some devs as Lineage OS and Dirty Unicorns, but nothing is sure they will develop anything for this phone.
Here the list of developers who got the phone
https://www.xda-developers.com/asus-rog-phone-3-custom-roms-custom-kernels-development/amp/
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Omnirom is already in testing. There will be many custom roms in the near future.
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sendme2pop said:
When we can expect Custom Roms for Asus Rog 3?
Its been a month now, Asus send ROG 3 to some developers for testing device with custom roms but sadly no news till date. Despite of Unofficial TWRP & Few Great Kernels, development for this beauty is very slow!
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Slow? Do it yourself then. Your one of the reasons devs left this place. Ungrateful.

Yes
bs3pro said:
Omnirom is already in testing. There will be many custom roms in the near future.
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Slow? Do it yourself then. Your one of the reasons devs left this place. Ungrateful.
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I understand ur concern, I'm not that good to develop custom roms. And I respect the developers. I just asked when we can expect!

bASKOU said:
This is a good but not a popular phone.
https://www.xda-developers.com/asus-rog-phone-3-custom-roms-custom-kernels-development/amp/
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I doubt this isn't a popular phone.
Anyone who's into mobile gaming knows this kind of phones.
It's just that these gaming phones are highly not for everyone.
I mean, they probably saw in the mall, but:
~Mostly marketed at the same price as flagships = Expensive
~Too focused on gaming (both looks & specs), this will feel heavy to use for someone who just want a decent smartphone
Basically, these phones have its own community.

JCatsuki said:
I doubt this isn't a popular phone.
Anyone who's into mobile gaming knows this kind of phones.
It's just that these gaming phones are highly not for everyone.
I mean, they probably saw in the mall, but:
~Mostly marketed at the same price as flagships = Expensive
~Too focused on gaming (both looks & specs), this will feel heavy to use for someone who just want a decent smartphone
Basically, these phones have its own community.
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Yes, it is a niche market. So not popular as this is only for a limited amount of users interested by this kind of phone. I just look around me and nobody know this phone.
I have no doubt it is not a popular phone like a flagship from Samsung, Huawei or OnePlus. I am used to have non-popular phones as I choice my phone for it's spec and not for the quantity of bloatware offering useless options to me.
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Omnirom is already in testing. There will be many custom roms in the near future.
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Slow? Do it yourself then. Your one of the reasons devs left this place. Ungrateful.
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It is all I hope, but I just looked at the rog phone 2 forum yesterday and there were not that many, the support wasn't really here.
I am not in hurry to get custom ROM, as I use air triggers daily. But if one day there is a ROM developed especially for this phone with specific options dedicated to the rog phone 3.

bs3pro said:
Omnirom is already in testing.
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Is there any board or group for any information about Omni? I saw the Rom for Rog 2 but there is no information or anything about that.