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<SOLVED> No Knox App?

Just curious, I saw the knox app om all international and Tmobile versions but I cant find it on my att version. BY Knox I mean the secure profile switcher.
Update 1 :
Koars215 received a correspondence from Samsung:
"after days on days of speaking with att and samsung... corporate finally spilled the beans lol this is coming from samsung mouth the agent told me that att push the device for purchased and did not look over the software in full before putting it on the shelf. They said the reason we can see the knox app in the installation manager is because by default it should be. Also its something that cant be found on its samsung app market place.
END RESULT: Samsung said within the next 1-2 weeks it will push a software update for At&t and t-mobile(i had no clue t-mobile was having the same issue)"
Update 2:
Get the knoxstub.apk from note 3 international and placed it in system after being rooted and now knox is working perfect. Tnx to cburnett
Update 3:
Knoxstub is attached. Tested and it works :good: Tnx to cburnett for the file.
Just open the apk and install normally and let it do its thing.

Exactly I can't find it either.
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I was just going to post this to. It's in the application manager could extract it with file explorer but should be installed already?
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tyshemi said:
I was just going to post this to. It's in the application manager could extract it with file explorer but should be installed already?
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You would think it should be installed with an icon on the first page also!! considering how much Samsung is proud of it

Yep my thoughts exactly. Lol I was bored messing with my new toy and noticed that it's not there weird timing you posted that lol
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I've searched high and low but can not figure out how to access/install/enable knox. I also see it running in application manager.
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Farley1 said:
I've searched high and low but can not figure out how to access/install/enable knox. I also see it running in application manager.
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Me neither. It's strange

To activate it go to Security>Device Administrators.
Word to the wise, if you care about Root or Bootloader Unlock; becareful. No one really knows what Knox changes hardware wise, IF it even changes anything hardware wise and software wise.
Unfortunately there's no way for us on AT&T N3 to disable it completely. But so far, it's not running on mine.

How do you use Knox on the att version? How do I get credentials for it
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Jammol said:
To activate it go to Security>Device Administrators.
Word to the wise, if you care about Root or Bootloader Unlock; becareful. No one really knows what Knox changes hardware wise, IF it even changes anything hardware wise and software wise.
Unfortunately there's no way for us on AT&T N3 to disable it completely. But so far, it's not running on mine.
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Still it doesn't show up after I activate it.

Same here checking knox in administrators does nothing. Could it be that I'm using the sim from my note 2 and not the one that was in the box?
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I'm using the SIM from my S4 and can't do anything with it either
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Guys Knox is not an app. It's a security protocol that keeps your information private and also your activity. Anything done in Knox, stays in Knox. Once it's activated it's on and monitors your security.
Here's some more information on how it works.... http://www.samsung.com/global/business/mobile/solution/security/samsung-knox
At&t Note III...& At&t G Pro

mine don't work either

@Jammol your wrong on the the other company's such as sprint there is an/a app on the home screen that allows you to place things inside the container and also Knox have its own store with supported apps. I was on the phone with Samsung advanced tech support and they were scratching their head on why it isn't installed on the device but it is found in the installation manager

I said its not an app because I don't classify it as one. Yes its a container, an environment, an app.
At&t Note III...& At&t G Pro

Jammol said:
I said its not an app because I don't classify it as one. Yes its a container, an environment, an app.
At&t Note III...& At&t G Pro
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All variants have this Knox app that switches environments, but not at&t and thats what we are asking: Where is it?

daraj said:
All variants have this Knox app that switches environments, but not at&t and thats what we are asking: Where is it?
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I will keep you guys updated this will be round 2 with advance tech support (samsung+att)... My guess is if others are having this problem that they will end up pushing a update that fixes this problem. My buddy got the Note 3 for sprint and i saw that its visible from the home screen and had to download the knox store onto the note 3. When i later got my note 3 from att that was the first app i looked for and i wasn't available.

Jammol said:
Guys Knox is not an app. It's a security protocol that keeps your information private and also your activity. Anything done in Knox, stays in Knox. Once it's activated it's on and monitors your security.
Here's some more information on how it works.... http://www.samsung.com/global/business/mobile/solution/security/samsung-knox
At&t Note III...& At&t G Pro
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I can't totally agree with that. Simply activating it as an administrator does nothing.
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koars215 said:
I will keep you guys updated this will be round 2 with advance tech support (samsung+att)... My guess is if others are having this problem that they will end up pushing a update that fixes this problem. My buddy got the Note 3 for sprint and i saw that its visible from the home screen and had to download the knox store onto the note 3. When i later got my note 3 from att that was the first app i looked for and i wasn't available.
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Any luck?
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[Q] Knox and AT&T Next Program

hey guys,
I'm considering rooting my GN3 because I miss a number of the things from my rooted GN1/2. I recently picked up my new GN3 via the AT&T Next program and was wondering what sort of issues/implications I'll run into if I decide to root my GN3 and trigger the Knox 0x1 flag.
Will they not take it in as a trade next year when I'm ready to upgrade?
I'm not concerned about warranty, or lack thereof for that matter. But if AT&T decides to not allow me to upgrade after 12 months, then I'll reconsider rooting.
Thanks guys, and my apologies for the dumb question.

I'd assume anything that affects warranty would affect the next program.
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I rooted and it didn't trip Knox and I also bought mine thru the next program
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b k w said:
hey guys,
I'm considering rooting my GN3 because I miss a number of the things from my rooted GN1/2. I recently picked up my new GN3 via the AT&T Next program and was wondering what sort of issues/implications I'll run into if I decide to root my GN3 and trigger the Knox 0x1 flag.
Will they not take it in as a trade next year when I'm ready to upgrade?
I'm not concerned about warranty, or lack thereof for that matter. But if AT&T decides to not allow me to upgrade after 12 months, then I'll reconsider rooting.
Thanks guys, and my apologies for the dumb question.
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I didn't even think about that. I guess you could always sell it and pay off what you owe and then get a new device if it was a factor.

You're better off selling it yourself. In 12 months you'll have paid off $420 so you'll owe $310. You should be able to get at least $450 if you list it right on ebay. Keep the box and all the original stuff and unlock it. That is enough to pay the remainder as well as have an extra $140 to put towards your next device.
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Rooting don't trip the knox flag anyway.
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No tripping knox sensor
dreDrennon1 said:
I rooted and it didn't trip Knox and I also bought mine thru the next program
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hey, so what is the method you used to avoid tripping knox sensor, I noticed chainfire and vega method..which did you use and why? I had a note 2 as well.
but I'm not willing to void warranty since I have the best buy warranty..:good:

I used Vega method because it was the only one at the time and I have never updated my phone either
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I highly doubt they will care if your trade in is rooted. They are going to send them/sell them off to be refurbished anyhow. I have traded in many phones on upgrades...All rooted.
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has anyone verified this since? im in the same situation

You need to upgrade to official KK 4.4.2 then use towelroot to root. Install busybox. Then supersu. Then safestrap recovery. Then flash you a KK rom and live the dream.
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killacam1989 said:
You need to upgrade to official KK 4.4.2 then use towelroot to root. Install busybox. Then supersu. Then safestrap recovery. Then flash you a KK rom and live the dream.
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I have sent phones back to att using the warranty in bricked status, when they had the counter thing I also sent with the counter tripped and every time I get support on my devices I have never been asked about the rooting or never been searched for the Knox status. I really doubt it they will know what Knox is.

Trust me they know. They techs are all trained and required to know about that. They can use that against you to void warrenty...but you might ocassionally find a tech or 2 that doesnt care. I soft bricked mine myself. I made a total noob move and wiped the stock system and tried booting into the rom slot. Biggg no no. Came to realize the phone boots into stock before stock slot...so I couldn't even boot into safestrap...just got a samsung logo boot and black screen. It wouldnt even charge either. Luckily knox wasnt tripped because that was the only way to get the phone to work. Dont make a noob move like what I did. Im still embarresed that happened and I been flashing for about 3-4 years now.
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Is there no interest in finding root for mj5?

It seems unusual or at least that's how it's coming across that no developers are interested in rooting mj5. Am I not aware of the reason for this, or is there something going on? I've never seen this quiet a forum for an AT&T phone in terms of development (apart from the bootloader issue) and rooting.
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I think there's a root available I just got the note 3 and it was already rooted
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Root with kingo. I did. I definitely have high battery drain that may or may not be from that.
The development for this phone is weak in general, locked bootloader will do that. At&t has sheisty coverage and locked bootloaders..I dunno how they keep so many customers. I'm out right after the holidays
sEnt from thE noTe 3

Rippley05 said:
Root with kingo. I did. I definitely have high battery drain that may or may not be from that.
The development for this phone is weak in general, locked bootloader will do that. At&t has sheisty coverage and locked bootloaders..I dunno how they keep so many customers. I'm out right after the holidays
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Sheisty coverage? Try tmobile or sprint and see how well their coverage is. Virgin and all others just borrow towers from the larger entities. Good luck.

tdamocles said:
Sheisty coverage? Try tmobile or sprint and see how well their coverage is. Virgin and all others just borrow towers from the larger entities. Good luck.
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I had sprint for years. I had no 4g so that's why I left, but as far as coverage..they killed at&t where I live. That's the thing, our locations obviously vary and signal strength won't always be the same. Common sense I thought. Sprint never dropped a call, had GPS drop out repeatedly or drained my battery in about 8 hours looking for a better signal.
I agree with t mobile. Verizon may be in my future..at least there's development there and my job has a Verizon tower and discount. I just hate their nickel and dime ways..but it's looking like my only option.
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Root MJ5 with Kingo.

acdcflame said:
Root MJ5 with Kingo.
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I would have, if there weren't security concerns around using Kingo. Root De La Vega was so easy? Why isn't there another simple method to root mj5?
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incisivekeith said:
I would have, if there weren't security concerns around using Kingo. Root De La Vega was so easy? Why isn't there another simple method to root mj5?
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There is no security issue with Kingo.. That was just hype over the early version. If you read their TOS it sates they do not receive any data from your device or PC. So if they are caught sharing anything then they are violation of their own agreement and then subject to law suit.
I also have use it on MJ5 and notice no change in performance other then athe custom padlock at boot which does not bother me.

I rooted with kingo.
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Bounty Thread in Verizon forum tallying ATT exploit

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=52145867
Come on guys go over there and kick in some money. I'm returning mine tomorrow and I'm still kicking in 50.

I pledged $35, although I may raise that after some thought.
Come on guys! If you are at all interested in pitching in for a bounty to find an exploit for rooting our S5, head on over and pledge any amount!

I pledged $50 but in two weeks im going to up mine to $100

Is there a reason why anyone can't just get the T-Mobile S5 and unlock it for use on AT&T?

MattMJB0188 said:
Is there a reason why anyone can't just get the T-Mobile S5 and unlock it for use on AT&T?
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Yea if you want outright buy the phone you can, its very simple if you can afford it

MattMJB0188 said:
Is there a reason why anyone can't just get the T-Mobile S5 and unlock it for use on AT&T?
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Perhaps some people don't feel like paying $700 upfront, plus other charges to sim unlock.

I don't understand the logic of offering a bounty in a forum for a different phone. Yes, Verizon has locked their bootloader as AT&T has, but there is no reason to believe that one hack would work for the other.
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dibeachdude said:
I don't understand the logic of offering a bounty in a forum for a different phone. Yes, Verizon has locked their bootloader as AT&T has, but there is no reason to believe that one hack would work for the other.
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Since both bootloaders are locked and root will depend on a kitkat exploit there is a better chance that it would work for both than you think.
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Greycloak42 said:
Since both bootloaders are locked and root will depend on a kitkat exploit there is a better chance that it would work for both than you think.
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I think it would depend on the exploit. If the exploit has to do with the hacking the key used to encrypt the bootloader, the assumption that it would work in both versions would rely on another assumption that they are both signed with the same key. Either way, it may prove to be difficult, it it may take so long that nobody will really care anymore because most people will have moved on to a different phone.
I bought mine after owning an S4 Active. A root exploit exists (for now), but the bootloader is still locked after almost a year. Flashing a ROM on that phone involves using Safestrap, which is tedious. I hope you're right, and I hope that someone finds an exploit. I miss being able to simply flash a new ROM using CWM or TWRP.
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Greycloak42 said:
Since both bootloaders are locked and root will depend on a kitkat exploit there is a better chance that it would work for both than you think.
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Exactly. Plus, that thread has expanded to the AT&T version as well.

MattMJB0188 said:
Is there a reason why anyone can't just get the T-Mobile S5 and unlock it for use on AT&T?
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The MetroPCS version is $649 at best buy and works as well.

cpufrost said:
The MetroPCS version is $649 at best buy and works as well.
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I think I'll just keep using the AT&T phone that I already own and hope that root is achieved. Thanks anyway.

dibeachdude said:
I think I'll just keep using the AT&T phone that I already own and hope that root is achieved. Thanks anyway.
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It'll be achieved, it's just a matter of time.
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barondebxl said:
It'll be achieved, it's just a matter of time.
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That's my thoughts. I've been waiting on the s4 active (unlock bootloader) for a yr almost. Lol.
Now it's time for a upgrade , I'm not sold on the s5 yet there are a couple phones out there I might consider.. What phones are not locked anymore with AT&T.?
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JEZZEJAMEZ said:
That's my thoughts. I've been waiting on the s4 active (unlock bootloader) for a yr almost. Lol.
Now it's time for a upgrade , I'm not sold on the s5 yet there are a couple phones out there I might consider.. What phones are not locked anymore with AT&T.?
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Maybe not the bootloader unlock but at least a root method.
The thing is with the active, many factors are the reason why the bootloader was not unlocked.
1. It was a side version of the popular S4, not too many ppl got that phone since they already had the S4.
2. It was only available on AT&T and wasn't a major release
3. There wasn't a huge bounty like there is for the S5
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Kael ruch said:
Is there a reason why anyone can't just get the T-Mobile S5 and unlock it for use on AT&T?
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Upwards of $700 for the phone + whatever charges you incur to SIM unlock. A lot of people don't feel like dishing out that much money upfront...and rightfully so.

karmuh said:
Upwards of $700 for the phone + whatever charges you incur to SIM unlock. A lot of people don't feel like dishing out that much money upfront...and rightfully so.
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I just bought a T-Mobile S5 for $550 . Plus $30 for the unlock.
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barondebxl said:
I just bought a T-Mobile S5 for $550 . Plus $30 for the unlock.
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Which I'm sure is a rare case. Either way, it's still too much. I paid $52 for my AT&T S5 and will gladly wait for the inevitable root, instead of forking over $600-700 upfront.

karmuh said:
Which I'm sure is a rare case. Either way, it's still too much. I paid $52 for my AT&T S5 and will gladly wait for the inevitable root, instead of forking over $600-700 upfront.
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You paid $52 because its on contract. Off contract prices are between $550 -700 right now depending on condition, accessories etc... Those are regular prices. Is it a lot of money? Yes. But its the regular price.
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barondebxl said:
You paid $52 because its in contract. Off contract price are between $550 -700 right now depending on condition, accessories etc... Those are regular prices. Is it a lot of money? Yes. But its the regular price.
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I know that. Obviously. As I said, it's still not worth it for me. I'll gladly pay that $52 and wait for the root than to have to fork over $600-700.

Wow still no root

I'm so surprised there's still no root for the ATT s5..im losing hope

Alternative: You can buy a T-Mobile S5, sim unlock and use on AT&T. T-Mo has unlocked bootloader...I did this and it works perfectly.

judicious said:
I'm so surprised there's still no root for the ATT s5..im losing hope
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it may take some time but it will get unlocked.

roughmouth said:
it may take some time but it will get unlocked.
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See people on the Galaxy S4 that are still looking for an exploit. It's highly unlikely bootloader unlock happens. Root is quite the long-shot as well.

judicious said:
I'm so surprised there's still no root for the ATT s5..im losing hope
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I wish there was a more active way to contribute despite having no developer background.
I know I'd be more than willing to do some seriously tedious code checking among other things if i knew it would help the cause.
Maybe buy some dynamite see if i can blow off the bootloader lock.. who knows?

Root will happen. It's not a matter of if, but when.

karmuh said:
Root will happen. It's not a matter of if, but when.
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Exactly.
Personally I went for the T-Mobile version and will unlock it to use it on AT&T.
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You can buy a T-Mobile S5, sim unlock and use on AT&T. T-Mo has unlocked bootloader...I did this and it works perfectly. also.

What are my choices if I bought the att s5 can I sell it for the same price as a t-mobile s5 and just buy one or should I try to get someone to trade with me?
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LeKtRiCzzz said:
What are my choices if I bought the att s5 can I sell it for the same price as a t-mobile s5 and just buy one or should I try to get someone to trade with me?
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The T-Mobile S5 is worth more because of the unlocked bootloader. You can sell the AT&T S5 for about $550 and get a mint T-Mobile S5 for the same price if you're lucky and negotiate on Swappa. Then you'll have to unlock it for about $30. Its all worth it in my opinion.
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The thing is the T-Mobile S5 will almost always show a full signal bar. When I had the TMO S5 it would show 4-5 bars with a -100-110 dbm signal. ATT signal is much stronger and therefore it will almost always show five bars with a -90, -80-dbm signal.

MattMJB0188 said:
The thing is the T-Mobile S5 will almost always show a full signal bar. When I had the TMO S5 it would show 4-5 bars with a -100-110 dbm signal. ATT signal is much stronger and therefore it will almost always show five bars with a -90, -80-dbm signal.
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Great..so like the thread states what update do you have about root?
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Martinjv71 said:
Great..so like the thread states what update do you have about root?
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Absolutely nothing. I personally don't think any developers even picked up the G900A because they knew it would be locked down. My advice: gt the TMO version and unlock it.

Lol
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Gotta love the doom and gloom. I would hate to see how some of you guys would act waiting nearly half a year for an iPhone jailbreak...every single year.

MattMJB0188 said:
Absolutely nothing. I personally don't think any developers even picked up the G900A because they knew it would be locked down. My advice: gt the TMO version and unlock it.
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Lol...TMO...Lol..I want a phone from a company that's going be around in 5 years.
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This phone will find root.
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karmuh said:
Gotta love the doom and gloom. I would hate to see how some of you guys would act waiting nearly half a year for an iPhone jailbreak...every single year.
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Been there, done that, many times haha.
Martinjv71 said:
Lol...TMO...Lol..I want a phone from a company that's going be around in 5 years.
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I can see your point on this one. If the phone is unlocked then you'd be fine. You would be getting service with AT&T, not T-Mobile or Sprint lol.

What I'm kinda worried about is that the S5 becomes a phone with wasted potential kind of like the Optimus G was due to lack of root
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You can also buy a metropcs galaxy s5 its more cheaper than the tmobile version and unlock and also you can flash the T-Mobile stock Odin and flash T-Mobile custom ROM ...
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I have never understood the mentality of "just go buy it from another carrier." Some do not have $650 just laying around to make that happen. Another thing I don't seem to understand is all the dislike of subsidiaries. I have been with AT&T for over 10 years and never had an issue. My bill does not seem to be affected when I get an upgrade either, so I don't see the logic of paying full price for a phone from another carrier and remain on another one. It would seem like I am paying more out of pocket that way.