hey guys,
I'm considering rooting my GN3 because I miss a number of the things from my rooted GN1/2. I recently picked up my new GN3 via the AT&T Next program and was wondering what sort of issues/implications I'll run into if I decide to root my GN3 and trigger the Knox 0x1 flag.
Will they not take it in as a trade next year when I'm ready to upgrade?
I'm not concerned about warranty, or lack thereof for that matter. But if AT&T decides to not allow me to upgrade after 12 months, then I'll reconsider rooting.
Thanks guys, and my apologies for the dumb question.
I'd assume anything that affects warranty would affect the next program.
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I rooted and it didn't trip Knox and I also bought mine thru the next program
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b k w said:
hey guys,
I'm considering rooting my GN3 because I miss a number of the things from my rooted GN1/2. I recently picked up my new GN3 via the AT&T Next program and was wondering what sort of issues/implications I'll run into if I decide to root my GN3 and trigger the Knox 0x1 flag.
Will they not take it in as a trade next year when I'm ready to upgrade?
I'm not concerned about warranty, or lack thereof for that matter. But if AT&T decides to not allow me to upgrade after 12 months, then I'll reconsider rooting.
Thanks guys, and my apologies for the dumb question.
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I didn't even think about that. I guess you could always sell it and pay off what you owe and then get a new device if it was a factor.
You're better off selling it yourself. In 12 months you'll have paid off $420 so you'll owe $310. You should be able to get at least $450 if you list it right on ebay. Keep the box and all the original stuff and unlock it. That is enough to pay the remainder as well as have an extra $140 to put towards your next device.
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Rooting don't trip the knox flag anyway.
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No tripping knox sensor
dreDrennon1 said:
I rooted and it didn't trip Knox and I also bought mine thru the next program
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hey, so what is the method you used to avoid tripping knox sensor, I noticed chainfire and vega method..which did you use and why? I had a note 2 as well.
but I'm not willing to void warranty since I have the best buy warranty..:good:
I used Vega method because it was the only one at the time and I have never updated my phone either
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I highly doubt they will care if your trade in is rooted. They are going to send them/sell them off to be refurbished anyhow. I have traded in many phones on upgrades...All rooted.
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has anyone verified this since? im in the same situation
You need to upgrade to official KK 4.4.2 then use towelroot to root. Install busybox. Then supersu. Then safestrap recovery. Then flash you a KK rom and live the dream.
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killacam1989 said:
You need to upgrade to official KK 4.4.2 then use towelroot to root. Install busybox. Then supersu. Then safestrap recovery. Then flash you a KK rom and live the dream.
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I have sent phones back to att using the warranty in bricked status, when they had the counter thing I also sent with the counter tripped and every time I get support on my devices I have never been asked about the rooting or never been searched for the Knox status. I really doubt it they will know what Knox is.
Trust me they know. They techs are all trained and required to know about that. They can use that against you to void warrenty...but you might ocassionally find a tech or 2 that doesnt care. I soft bricked mine myself. I made a total noob move and wiped the stock system and tried booting into the rom slot. Biggg no no. Came to realize the phone boots into stock before stock slot...so I couldn't even boot into safestrap...just got a samsung logo boot and black screen. It wouldnt even charge either. Luckily knox wasnt tripped because that was the only way to get the phone to work. Dont make a noob move like what I did. Im still embarresed that happened and I been flashing for about 3-4 years now.
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There's a lot of info floating around out there so I figured I'd try to set the record straight. And I can't be the only ones with these questions, so it might be good to have the answers all in one place.
From what I understand, the root for the note 3 on other carriers is working, even though some are still listed as untested. What would happen if one was to try the procedure on the at&t variant?
Next question is more of just a general outlook for the rooting future of this device. Is it looking like its doable, a hell of a challenge, or just plain impossible?
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Plug it in and click! I'm "rooting" for you!!!!
At&t Note III...& At&t G Pro
Same goes for the Rogers Wireless SM-N900W8 version in Canada... Usually anything that works for the AT&T perks for us so I'm just waiting....
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From everything that I have read over the past couple of days AT&T has a locked bootloader. The TMobile version doesn't have one. The reason why root works for it is because it flashes a custom recovery like CWM or TWRP and then roots it from there. That is not possible with a locked bootloader. I would rather get the TMobile version of the Note 3 and just SIM unlock it and use it on AT&T but coming up with $700+ dollars is not an option for me. So I can only hope an exploit is found for the AT&T version.
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From everything that I have read over the past couple of days AT&T has a locked bootloader. The TMobile version doesn't have one. The reason why root works for it is because it flashes a custom recovery like CWM or TWRP and then roots it from there. That is not possible with a locked bootloader. I would rather get the TMobile version of the Note 3 and just SIM unlock it and use it on AT&T but coming up with $700+ dollars is not an option for me. So I can only hope an exploit is found for the AT&T version.
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There will always be a workaround. The phones only been out a little while so it's always best to wait and be patient. Yeah it sucks but early stuff can be unstable. No matter how hard it gets lock down it's not going to be "unlockable". It's just a matter of how much work it's going to take to unlock it.
Well its pretty much going 2 be a hell of a challenge. I'm coming from att Galaxy S4 & it has been crazy over there as far as this bootloader locking with att. U do have root but things haven't been easy by no means so I'm sure it'll be no easier with this device, if not more difficult. But hey I'm optimistic, if we can just get root I'll be happy...
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I find the loki recovery to be easy on the S4.. remember Sprint and Verizon also will have lock bootloaders.
I doubt the two largest networks (Vzw, AT&T) will be left in the dirt.
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I find the loki recovery to be easy on the S4.. remember Sprint and Verizon also will have lock bootloaders.
I doubt the two largest networks (Vzw, AT&T) will be left in the dirt.
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Not with 4.3
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Everyone thought the same about the S4 with the mf3 update then it got rooted with safestrap to load roms. Everyone thought you couldn't reverse it but it is now reversible. There is even a one click app to root it. Just give it some time.
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From everything that I have read over the past couple of days AT&T has a locked bootloader. The TMobile version doesn't have one. The reason why root works for it is because it flashes a custom recovery like CWM or TWRP and then roots it from there. That is not possible with a locked bootloader. I would rather get the TMobile version of the Note 3 and just SIM unlock it and use it on AT&T but coming up with $700+ dollars is not an option for me. So I can only hope an exploit is found for the AT&T version.
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Cf-auto-root does not flash a custom recovery. It just roots.
At&t Note III...& At&t G Pro
If there is not a chance of rooting or putting a custom rom on my note 3 then what's the purpose of even having this thing. It's nice but my note 2 has much more options as far as putting a custom rom on it. What has Samsung done? Are they in competition with HTC as far as locking us out of our own devices that we pay several hundreds of dollars for. I figured 1 of these devs would have already had this figured out and if they can't then we are pretty screwed
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If there is not a chance of rooting or putting a custom rom on my note 3 then what's the purpose of even having this thing. It's nice but my note 2 has much more options as far as putting a custom rom on it. What has Samsung done? Are they in competition with HTC as far as locking us out of our own devices that we pay several hundreds of dollars for. I figured 1 of these devs would have already had this figured out and if they can't then we are pretty screwed
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Sometimes reading helps. towelroot.com
daredevil061305 said:
If there is not a chance of rooting or putting a custom rom on my note 3 then what's the purpose of even having this thing. It's nice but my note 2 has much more options as far as putting a custom rom on it. What has Samsung done? Are they in competition with HTC as far as locking us out of our own devices that we pay several hundreds of dollars for. I figured 1 of these devs would have already had this figured out and if they can't then we are pretty screwed
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If you did your research you'd find that root is available and that you can install custom roms via safestrap.
Also Samsung isn't the one limiting the note 3 by locking the bootloader. It's at&t. Don't be hatin on Samsung.
root it right now go to www.towelroot.com and than download superuser..... it works flawlessley
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root it right now go to www.towelroot.com and than download superuser..... it works flawlessley
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No need to even download Superuser. I just installed the apk and viola, root!
Hello,
I am just wondering, where is the latest news on the progress of our bootloader being unlocked? Or atleast where can I get any kind of info on how to do it? Cause I'll be dead honest, I turned on my galaxy S3 and missed the CM experience. I just want to get this thing unlocked so I can enjoy our phone, instead of being OK with what ATT gives us, cause its kinda dumb.
thanks for any information at all, cause I'd honestly dedicate my phone to the effort.
-Gulik
If u got s3 them u in wrong forum. Needed to go to att s3 forum.
Samsung unlock bootloader on SM-G870A ...
No no, I have both. I am using my S5, but I miss my S3 because of CM. I just want to help with this somehow.
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Also would love an answer to this question! Im came from a nexus 5 too so this really bothers me. ALL THIS ANDROID L IS MAKIN ME ANXIOUS TO GET A GLORIOUS CM ROM ON MY PHONE
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there will never be unlocked by at&t, this company is closed by capitalist political protection of the operator's own functions.
well I sold the phone, it is unfortunate, it is a good phone, it's amazing the difference g900a g900f with the operating system.
The g900f has everything unlocked functions representing the galaxy s5.
I recommend that you do not fall into the scam at&t.
I hate to be pessimistic, but with the arrival of "android 5" I doubt that at&t update these terminals, is a company that has a reputation of leaving obsolete phones.
I would easily pay 25-50 dollars for an unlock tool (like Sunshine for HTC/Motorola devices) for the G900A. While I do appreciate Safestrap and all its glory, I really, really, want stock android L on our device. Because somewhere...... a Samsung engineer is looking at L thinking "how can we screw this one up..."
All I'm saying is this, I'm not too savy with hacking or low level coding; but I hope that if Samsung does push out Android L and that there is some sort of exploit or bug that will allow us to root/unlock the boot loader since it would be a fairly new os compared to that of ICS/KK.
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Im just hoping devs get the bootloader unlocked before the end of 2014, but sadly i dont know if it will ever be unlocked
Why can't we pull a boot loader encryption key from an update?
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akitten007 said:
I would easily pay 25-50 dollars for an unlock tool (like Sunshine for HTC/Motorola devices) for the G900A. While I do appreciate Safestrap and all its glory, I really, really, want stock android L on our device. Because somewhere...... a Samsung engineer is looking at L thinking "how can we screw this one up..."
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Be careful what you wish for...
"L" has a whole new set of challenges....
Init commands are no more...
So our traditional root and superuser mechanisms are gone...
Google did this on purpose in the name of security..
So not only are the carriers locking us out..but Google is turning into the new apple....
So much for open source and freedom to create....g
Man screw this s5 I'm going to fire back up my s3 . I'm missing cm big time
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goob1284 said:
Why can't we pull a boot loader encryption key from an update?
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What you're describing is basically breaking an encryption, which is out of the realm of possibility. It would be far easier (and has still not happened yet) to literally steal the keys from Samsung. I believe previous bootloaders have been unlocked this way. If a lock is unpickable, then I'll just steal the key from the guy who has it right?
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What you're describing is basically breaking an encryption, which is out of the realm of possibility. It would be far easier (and has still not happened yet) to literally steal the keys from Samsung. I believe previous bootloaders have been unlocked this way. If a lock is unpickable, then I'll just steal the key from the guy who has it right?
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Sounds good to me .
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If the T-Mobile version is unlocked why can't we just make it think it's the same phone, or just switch out the boot loader somehow. Maybe someone understands what I'm saying ?
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ConMcCRay said:
If the T-Mobile version is unlocked why can't we just make it think it's the same phone, or just switch out the boot loader somehow. Maybe someone understands what I'm saying ?
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That's not going to ever happen. The bootloader is locked down to prevent that. You need to unlock our bootloader before you could ever switch them.
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ConMcCRay said:
If the T-Mobile version is unlocked why can't we just make it think it's the same phone, or just switch out the boot loader somehow. Maybe someone understands what I'm saying ?
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That's not going to ever happen. The bootloader is locked down to prevent that. You need to unlock our bootloader before you could ever switch them.
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Technically you are correct however, Odin can flash BootLoaders but alas we are back to if we had the "keys" we wouldnt need to try to flash a TMO BL.
viscous circle we are in
Do you guys think it will ever happen? I mean realistically
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ericjackson said:
Do you guys think it will ever happen? I mean realistically
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Doubtful
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Doubtful
"And on that bombshell it's time to end the show!" Sent from my VisionX powered G900A Rockin XKRomeBlue
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Man that sucks... I expected the type of options like I had with my s3.hmmm
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ericjackson said:
Man that sucks... I expected the type of options like I had with my s3.hmmm
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I love my S5 rooted running a killer Rom beautifully themed with great battery life and debloated. I've had a Galaxy S series since the S2. My S3 was a decent phone but this S5 is a beast.
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So there's a method of rooting the stock Note 3 without tripping Knox => http://forum.xda-developers.com/not...-to-root-nf4-knox-0x0-effortless-nf4-t2846142
Wondering if there's been a way yet for the Note 4 for this to happen?
Thanks.
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So there's a method of rooting the stock Note 3 without tripping Knox => http://forum.xda-developers.com/not...-to-root-nf4-knox-0x0-effortless-nf4-t2846142
Wondering if there's been a way yet for the Note 4 for this to happen?
Thanks.
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That thread has been around since August. I would venture to say if there was a way, we would have it here. It's unfortunate, but it really doesn't cause nearly as many issues as people think it would. There have been plenty of members to make warranty claims and return their devices to T-Mobile and a word hasn't been said. Most workers at T-Mobile probably don't even know to look for it; they have so many phones they deal with on a daily basis that checking for knox being tripped isn't on their priority list.
I'm using it on ATT though and bought off contract.
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I'm using it on ATT though and bought off contract.
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I can't speak for the AT&T version, however I don't believe anyone has found a way to root without tripping knox. It kind of became accepted that to root you'll trip it.
Cool. I did that on my old Note e
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Asked and answered numerous times.
Short answer: Nope
Reason why: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=54709275&postcount=5234
Search on Tapatalk is horrible. Thanks.
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Search on Tapatalk is horrible. Thanks.
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Agreed. Tapatalk is terrible for searching.
Use Google instead
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Asked and answered numerous times.
Short answer: Nope
Reason why: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=54709275&postcount=5234
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I have read that there are Tmobile Note 4 with Rent A Center firmware installed and people are able to install "normal " Tmobile firmware without tripping Knox. That would mean that there is a way to keep Knox at 0 and install modified firmware. I just wonder if that requires special equipment to flash those phones to RAC modification or simply people didn't discover "trick" yet?
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I'm really disappointed. Was waiting for someone to get towel root to work.
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darekz said:
I have read that there are Tmobile Note 4 with Rent A Center firmware installed and people are able to install "normal " Tmobile firmware without tripping Knox. That would mean that there is a way to keep Knox at 0 and install modified firmware. I just wonder if that requires special equipment to flash those phones to RAC modification or simply people didn't discover "trick" yet?
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Interesting. Didn't even know this existed.
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DPMAce said:
I'm really disappointed. Was waiting for someone to get towel root to work.
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Me too!
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DPMAce said:
I'm really disappointed. Was waiting for someone to get towel root to work.
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I've been waiting for this too but looks like no one is working on it
And it seems like after rooting, we must flash a custom rom or else some of the features will not work.
I hope to be getting a job in a couple of months, and would love to use my note 4 there. But not sure if they will let me use a phone with Knox tripped.
Rent a center is considered as... Sort of a provider. They have an agreement with Samsung which enables them to install custom firmware, which if it is similar to their laptops, allows them to "lock" the device if their RIDICULOUSLY expensive payments are not made. Its fraud insurance in a way.
I am not sure how you would go about getting around knox. But I wouldn't hold my breath. Its looking like it might be a little while...
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My friend bought his note 4 with rent a center it does have a firmware different than tmobile, my friend updated using kies and it installed all of the tmobile bloat and basically the stock rom, with knox already Tripp when he bought it
Is it worth losing root over? Opinions needed, I'm also willing to go to bank of America.
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I can only give a very subjective answer to this. Yes, I think it's worth it. Samsung pay actually works very well, and allows you to seriously start using your phone as your primary payment method. Not to mention that there are obvious security benefits as well.
I have rooted all my other devices, but haven't felt that root would bring a significant benefit to the s6, other than to clear bloatware.
In my opinion if you are used to root then you will miss it with a passion. I bought the new note 5 and regret it. Samsung pay is a nice way to pay for stuff. But how hard is it really to grab your card out of your pocket. I am getting rid of this note asap because I miss the things you can do with root. I would really think about it before making that decision.
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I hate the bloatware but one of the main reasons I root is to get rid of the ads
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i root for bloatware, Ads, and disabling services involved for logging/reporting/spying.
Really wish this phone had an unlocked bootloader
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