hey guys,
I'm considering rooting my GN3 because I miss a number of the things from my rooted GN1/2. I recently picked up my new GN3 via the AT&T Next program and was wondering what sort of issues/implications I'll run into if I decide to root my GN3 and trigger the Knox 0x1 flag.
Will they not take it in as a trade next year when I'm ready to upgrade?
I'm not concerned about warranty, or lack thereof for that matter. But if AT&T decides to not allow me to upgrade after 12 months, then I'll reconsider rooting.
Thanks guys, and my apologies for the dumb question.
I'd assume anything that affects warranty would affect the next program.
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I rooted and it didn't trip Knox and I also bought mine thru the next program
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b k w said:
hey guys,
I'm considering rooting my GN3 because I miss a number of the things from my rooted GN1/2. I recently picked up my new GN3 via the AT&T Next program and was wondering what sort of issues/implications I'll run into if I decide to root my GN3 and trigger the Knox 0x1 flag.
Will they not take it in as a trade next year when I'm ready to upgrade?
I'm not concerned about warranty, or lack thereof for that matter. But if AT&T decides to not allow me to upgrade after 12 months, then I'll reconsider rooting.
Thanks guys, and my apologies for the dumb question.
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I didn't even think about that. I guess you could always sell it and pay off what you owe and then get a new device if it was a factor.
You're better off selling it yourself. In 12 months you'll have paid off $420 so you'll owe $310. You should be able to get at least $450 if you list it right on ebay. Keep the box and all the original stuff and unlock it. That is enough to pay the remainder as well as have an extra $140 to put towards your next device.
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Rooting don't trip the knox flag anyway.
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No tripping knox sensor
dreDrennon1 said:
I rooted and it didn't trip Knox and I also bought mine thru the next program
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hey, so what is the method you used to avoid tripping knox sensor, I noticed chainfire and vega method..which did you use and why? I had a note 2 as well.
but I'm not willing to void warranty since I have the best buy warranty..:good:
I used Vega method because it was the only one at the time and I have never updated my phone either
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I highly doubt they will care if your trade in is rooted. They are going to send them/sell them off to be refurbished anyhow. I have traded in many phones on upgrades...All rooted.
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has anyone verified this since? im in the same situation
You need to upgrade to official KK 4.4.2 then use towelroot to root. Install busybox. Then supersu. Then safestrap recovery. Then flash you a KK rom and live the dream.
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killacam1989 said:
You need to upgrade to official KK 4.4.2 then use towelroot to root. Install busybox. Then supersu. Then safestrap recovery. Then flash you a KK rom and live the dream.
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I have sent phones back to att using the warranty in bricked status, when they had the counter thing I also sent with the counter tripped and every time I get support on my devices I have never been asked about the rooting or never been searched for the Knox status. I really doubt it they will know what Knox is.
Trust me they know. They techs are all trained and required to know about that. They can use that against you to void warrenty...but you might ocassionally find a tech or 2 that doesnt care. I soft bricked mine myself. I made a total noob move and wiped the stock system and tried booting into the rom slot. Biggg no no. Came to realize the phone boots into stock before stock slot...so I couldn't even boot into safestrap...just got a samsung logo boot and black screen. It wouldnt even charge either. Luckily knox wasnt tripped because that was the only way to get the phone to work. Dont make a noob move like what I did. Im still embarresed that happened and I been flashing for about 3-4 years now.
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I was very disappointed to learn that Google Wallet didn't have tap-to-pay functionality on my new GN3 and I was absolutely furious when I learned it was because of AT&T's shady crony capitalism. I decided to root my phone and find a way around AT&T's bull, but I'm totally new to rooting and I have no idea how to do it
Please, if anyone knows how I can bypass this absurd restriction and install Google Wallet with tap-to-pay functionality, let me know!
Thanks,
BearDamon
just try ISiS mobile app.. been using that since last month, pretty much the same as gw, and if you are rooted? you need to bypass the root
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Wrong forum. Questions are supposed to be posted in the Q&A forum.
I am curious as to why it is so hard to root the note 3 on kit Kat? I have rooted phones for years, but by no means do I really know much about it other than reading rooting instructions on xda. Two days ago I rooted my fiance's S III and it couldn't have been easier. What makes rooting our phones on kit Kat so difficult. I'm just wondering. I guess if the answer was easy we would have a solution.
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No exploits have been found to crack kitkat. Too secure.
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In order to root a phone you need to find an exploit, or loophole in the system. The phones you previously rooted were simple because someone found that loophole and packaged a way for you to do it. As android develops it becomes more complex, and secure. Samsung also is growing and adding their new security feature called Knox. Don't forget at&t your carrier. They request Samsung to lock the bootloader. So now that there is all this code and security involved, root access is a pain in the a$$!
If there is not a chance of rooting or putting a custom rom on my note 3 then what's the purpose of even having this thing. It's nice but my note 2 has much more options as far as putting a custom rom on it. What has Samsung done? Are they in competition with HTC as far as locking us out of our own devices that we pay several hundreds of dollars for. I figured 1 of these devs would have already had this figured out and if they can't then we are pretty screwed
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If there is not a chance of rooting or putting a custom rom on my note 3 then what's the purpose of even having this thing. It's nice but my note 2 has much more options as far as putting a custom rom on it. What has Samsung done? Are they in competition with HTC as far as locking us out of our own devices that we pay several hundreds of dollars for. I figured 1 of these devs would have already had this figured out and if they can't then we are pretty screwed
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Sometimes reading helps. towelroot.com
daredevil061305 said:
If there is not a chance of rooting or putting a custom rom on my note 3 then what's the purpose of even having this thing. It's nice but my note 2 has much more options as far as putting a custom rom on it. What has Samsung done? Are they in competition with HTC as far as locking us out of our own devices that we pay several hundreds of dollars for. I figured 1 of these devs would have already had this figured out and if they can't then we are pretty screwed
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If you did your research you'd find that root is available and that you can install custom roms via safestrap.
Also Samsung isn't the one limiting the note 3 by locking the bootloader. It's at&t. Don't be hatin on Samsung.
root it right now go to www.towelroot.com and than download superuser..... it works flawlessley
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arlenesboyfriend said:
root it right now go to www.towelroot.com and than download superuser..... it works flawlessley
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No need to even download Superuser. I just installed the apk and viola, root!
Well sitting around today I figured I would e-mail samsung about the locked bootloader and how that would eventually kill off sales for those in the know on Modding, development and wanting ultimate control of there device. So I would suggest anyone who cares to should do the same. I think if we show them the love we have for Samsung devices as a community maybe they will rethink their strategy and start giving their fans what they want, and that is options, unlimited options to flash and mod the way we want. I mean heck isn't that what google released android for was to be open sourced. So please take time to send samsung an e-mail and voice your support to stop locking bootloaders and unlock our locked ones, cause we all know it's easier for them to do it and just pass it on to us than for a dev to do it and get nothing but thanks when I reality samsung should send him a check, but we know that won't happen.
UPDATE: Link to online petition below please sign and tell your friends. Also petition is linked to c.e.o. Randall Stephenson @ [email protected] so he will know of every signature we gain. So come on and let's try to get our device the freedom it and we deserve.
https://www.change.org/petitions/at...ootloaders-on-mobile-phones?just_created=true
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Samsung does not insist on locking the bootloaders. The carriers do. That's why both AT&T and Verizon bootloaders are lock, while Sprint and Tmobile and not. AT&T and Verizon's locked bootloaders have not dropped Samsung sales below that rival company, who leaves their bootloaders to be unlocked by the customer on that special webstite, whose sales of their top selling phone are fading based on what I am reading.
Did not know that. you would think samsung would be like "hey att don't do that people want access not restrictions" but like you said if the device is a top seller I guess on their end there is no reason to conform to what smaller groups of people like us think the state of the phone upon release should be. Well I'll send att an e-mail to might not do any good but I would like to try. Again if you support this send them(samsung, att, verizon, etc.) an e-mail and voice your response. Tell them we want freedom not a locked down p.o.s.
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Come on folks let's make this happen. Petition linked also to Google and samsung. STOP COMPLAINING ABOUT IT AND SIGN THIS THING. MAYBE IF IF WE STIR UP THE POT WE CAN GET SOME RESULTS. PLEASE DON'T LET MY EFFORTS BE WAISTED FOR NOTHING WE CAN DO THIS.
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GDofWR420 said:
Come on folks let's make this happen. Petition linked also to Google and samsung. STOP COMPLAINING ABOUT IT AND SIGN THIS THING. MAYBE IF IF WE STIR UP THE POT WE CAN GET SOME RESULTS. PLEASE DON'T LET MY EFFORTS BE WAISTED FOR NOTHING WE CAN DO THIS.
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You must be new to this forum. They already have a petition for this, but maybe not to the CEO. It has not accomplished anything.
http://www.change.org/petitions/ran...axy-s5-users-unlocked-bootloader-upon-request
It received less than 500 signatures before there was any root, then once we finally got root, pretty much all support just stopped.
shortydoggg said:
You must be new to this forum. They already have a petition for this, but maybe not to the CEO. It's been going nowhere.
http://www.change.org/petitions/ran...axy-s5-users-unlocked-bootloader-upon-request
It received less than 500 signatures before there was any root, then once we finally got root, pretty much all support just stopped.
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Thanks for swift kick in the nuts pal. Lol. New to s5 forum not xda. Well I'm trying spent all day on this so please at least take five minutes to sign it. In the time it takes to post here that's another signature we could have. Even if nothing happens at least pledge to switch to a less b.s. carrier. If anything declining profit margins should have some effect, at least you'd think.
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I personally received a cease and desist letter for harassing the ceo's secretary about the locked bootloader on my LG g2. The bottom line is 5% or less modify their phones.1% will actually complain about it and I would bet less than 20% of that 1 percent would actually write a letter. Att doesn't care about the opinions of .20% of its customer base. The only way to get this to work is to unite across all devices with locked bootloader's on at&t.
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Intub8 said:
I personally received a cease and desist letter for harassing the ceo's secretary about the locked bootloader on my LG g2. The bottom line is 5% or less modify their phones.1% will actually complain about it and I would bet less than 20% of that 1 percent would actually write a letter. Att doesn't care about the opinions of .20% of its customer base. The only way to get this to work is to unite across all devices with locked bootloader's on at&t.
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So fight back. Sim unlock, switch carriers and stick it to the man. That's the only way I can think of getting our point across, falling short of waiting out your contract or paying ETF's(if u have good credit, I dont.lol). If I have to starting tomorrow I will reach out to other att customers with other models with Locked bootloaders. This needs to happen regardless what majority we are, we spent damn hard earned money for open source OS not a closed one and why should it be left up to someone here on xda or another dev site to unlock this mess.
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I do stick it to the man, the man keeps giving me free stuff. The last phone I bought was the LG g2. After a few weeks I had a bad pixel so they gave me a brand new note 3. A month after that I talked them into a free galaxy gear. When the boredom kicked in I got "the man" to take the note 3 back and send me a good flex. I sold the watch. In June I once again told them I wasn't happy with the flex so they told me to pick any phone I wanted, I chose this phone. Now it is aggravating and I probably wasted hours of my time harassing them but it pays off.
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Intub8 said:
I do stick it to the man, the man keeps giving me free stuff. The last phone I bought was the LG g2. After a few weeks I had a bad pixel so they gave me a brand new note 3. A month after that I talked them into a free galaxy gear. When the boredom kicked in I got "the man" to take the note 3 back and send me a good flex. I sold the watch. In June I once again told them I wasn't happy with the flex so they told me to pick any phone I wanted, I chose this phone. Now it is aggravating and I probably wasted hours of my time harassing them but it pays off.
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Love it. Take them for all you can cause they sure love to do it to us. Toss your John Hancock on it if you don't mind, I'm not going to admit defeat yet. Tomorrow I will look up att models with Locked bootloaders and try to reach out to their community for signatures.
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Who cares at this point. We have root
nbrent1007 said:
Who cares at this point. We have root
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OK smart ass. Get us a custom kernel.
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I signed it. Putting in my 2 cents worth; I was the 6th person to sign. And I don't even have an S5 yet, planning on getting one soon.
nbrent1007 said:
Who cares at this point. We have root
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Hey, that was mean, but not enough people are going to care. A lot of people are satisfied just being able to run rooted apps.
cmerlyn said:
I signed it. Putting in my 2 cents worth; I was the 6th person to sign. And I don't even have an S5 yet, planning on getting one soon.
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Thank you for your support
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Hey, that was mean, but not enough people are going to care. A lot of people are satisfied just being able to run rooted apps.
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Gonna try. I want locked bootloaders gone for good if you can get one carrier to do it maybe it will be the norm, which I believe is what google intended.
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How you feel toward att? Me.........
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E-mail I just got from samsung tech support
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This is all on the AT&T end of things. If they could come to an agreement to have something similar to what HTC has where you go to their website and agree to void your warranty then the site unlocks it that would be great. We need to put pressure on AT&T for something like that as it would not cause them to lose money or their government contracts. But like someone stated earlier our demographic is so small that they don't care. Normal people just care that their phones work and can take good pictures. I can tell you that back when the Motorola atrix came out there was a petition to also unlock the bootloader it got tons of signatures and even the attention of Motorola and AT&T enough so that they issued a statement that they would provide a solution to the locked bootloader and guess what, the solution never came but we did get their attention so it is possible.
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drock212 said:
This is all on the AT&T end of things. If they could come to an agreement to have something similar to what HTC has where you go to their website and agree to void your warranty then the site unlocks it that would be great. We need to put pressure on AT&T for something like that as it would not cause them to lose money or their government contracts. But like someone stated earlier our demographic is so small that they don't care. Normal people just care that their phones work and can take good pictures. I can tell you that back when the Motorola atrix came out there was a petition to also unlock the bootloader it got tons of signatures and even the attention of Motorola and AT&T enough so that they issued a statement that they would provide a solution to the locked bootloader and guess what, the solution never came but we did get their attention so it is possible.
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Yea I'm kinda feeling the blues I come from a galaxy S4G from t-mobile they jacked up my bill so I jacked there phone. I quit paying for it ( the contract that is, bad credit here. can't wait for that financial system to crash) and did a network unlock and threw it on sprint prepaid. After that I learned what little I know about root, roms, and flashing. I've made a few themes for the S4G with u.o.t. but that's neither here nor there.
Now I move on and wouldn't you know the second smart phone I have ever had is locked down like a terrorist in Gitmo (I mean sheesh even they get light 1 hour a day).
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