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N1 is dead :(

My first thread was in the Desire section and we got on the topic of the Nexus One not being sold through Google anymore but now its dead all together There's an article on mashable dot com that tells how its all being halted.

http://www.mobilemag.com/2010/07/18/google-to-stop-selling-the-nexus-one/
It was widely heralded as the first real “Google Phone” and now it will soon be laid out to pasture. If you were hoping to get your hands on the Google Nexus One smartphone, I highly suggest you do it very soon, because Google has placed its final order with HTC for the device. After stock from this shipment is depleted Google will no longer be selling the Nexus One through its official online store. Nada. No more. Kaput. You have plenty of other options in the Android realm, like the HTC Droid Incredible, but the Nexus One holds a special place in cell phone history.
That’s the bad news, but there are two smaller tidbits of good news. First, Google will continue to offer support through its customer service lines. So, if you already have one of these devices in hand, you can still get help when you need it. Second, Google is looking for a way to continue selling the Nexus One through a sales partner, but these sales will be restricted to registered app developers.
I guess you go out and buy just about any other Google Android device offered through your carrier of choice, but those oftentimes contain some carrier-specific doo-dahs. The Nexus One is, as far as we can tell, the only true clean-slate and completely unlocked Android that you can get on a very official basis.

tin_can_ said:
My first thread was in the Desire section and we got on the topic of the Nexus One not being sold through Google anymore but now its dead all together There's an article on mashable dot com that tells how its all being halted.
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And it's complete nonsense, as is the other exact same thread as this one.

Not hardly dead...Still plenty of life & development in our Nexus

tin_can_ said:
My first thread was in the Desire section and we got on the topic of the Nexus One not being sold through Google anymore but now its dead all together There's an article on mashable dot com that tells how its all being halted.
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For f**k's sake, stop trolling the panic.
How many topics a day do we need about this?!
FOR THE LAST F*CKING TIME:
Nexus One's ONLY purpose and the SOLE reason for existence was to promote android and show what it can do on a good hardware. They planned to have Nexus 2 to continue pushing android. Since so many companies like HTC/Motorola/Samsung jumped on an Android band-wagon, Google officially stopped Nexus TWO development and slowing down (NOT STOPPED!!!!!!!) Nexus One sales.
As per Google's CEO own words, "NEXUS ONE WAS SO SUCCESSFULL, THAT WE DON'T NEED NEXUS TWO."
If your brain is so tiny that it can't understand that Nexus One was a huge success for what it was intended for, and that Google NEVER intended to make money on phones directly, then I beg you, please go hang out on iPhone forums where you'll find your kin.
Jesus holy Christ.
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I sold my Nexus on Craigslist on Friday. Bought a Vibrant Thursday. After holding that phone for 1 second I knew I had to have it. Screen was downright AMAZING! I love what the Nexus gave me but this is the nature of technology and you can lament it or accept it.

They saying shouldn't be "if you've got nothinng nice to say, say nothing at all" it should be "if you're an idiot, stop talking".

DarkDvr said:
For f**k's sake, stop trolling the panic.
How many topics a day do we need about this?!
FOR THE LAST F*CKING TIME:
Nexus One's ONLY purpose and the SOLE reason for existence was to promote android and show what it can do on a good hardware. They planned to have Nexus 2 to continue pushing android. Since so many companies like HTC/Motorola/Samsung jumped on an Android band-wagon, Google officially stopped Nexus TWO development and slowing down (NOT STOPPED!!!!!!!) Nexus One sales.
As per Google's CEO own words, "NEXUS ONE WAS SO SUCCESSFULL, THAT WE DON'T NEED NEXUS TWO."
If your brain is so tiny that it can't understand that Nexus One was a huge success for what it was intended for, and that Google NEVER intended to make money on phones directly, then I beg you, please go hang out on iPhone forums where you'll find your kin.
Jesus holy Christ.
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DarkDvr may I have another?
Took the words right out of my mouth...

That's good news, if the phone won't be available discounted through carriers, it will remain rare!!!! A true gem!
As long as we're be able to run Gingerbread when it's released it would keep me happy for many more months

Actually you can still buy one, you just have to pay $25 for the developer channel i think.

[Doubt] Why the N4 have a LOT of bad hardware reviews?

Hi everyone, first than nothing, English its not my native language so please try to understand what I want to focus on this threat...
As we now, the Nexus 4 will be available this 13th/nov. and tons of people are getting ready to buy this beauty and powerful device having on mind the sweet price of it.
However, many developers already has the preview release version in their hands, and they share with us in videos their experience with this device, but something its getting me nervous, many of them are saying that the battery isn't enough, the black crystal its too fragile, no LTE (IDK), a washed-out screen, etc etc, we all know the "issues" with this device but, you guys think that when the official release version get available this "issues" will disappear?
I really like this device, but I can't understand why the hell so many bad reviews...
I'm counting the seconds for the moment that I can buy this thing... and I really hope that Google kick the asses of The Verge/Engadget etc...
NOTE: Look at this video and let me know what do you think about this "new leak" of PhotoSphere...
Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xeF7QSeENHU
Thanks and sorry for my bad english.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1970593
Make sure to read that thread before you buy!
Pretty much with the reviews coming in about the battery life, overheating, poor benchmarks those could all be explained by the fact that those review units aren't the final versions we will get.
But either way... wait to purchase the phone if you're unsure you could live with the issues above and let the early adopters either confirm or deny the issues before purchasing so you don't wind up with a restocking fee if you're in the U.S.

I don't think all the issues will just magically disappear, but I think they'll definitely be smoothed out, given time

first than nothing.

ap3604 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1970593
Make sure to read that thread before you buy!
Pretty much with the reviews coming in about the battery life, overheating, poor benchmarks those could all be explained by the fact that those review units aren't the final versions we will get.
But either way... wait to purchase the phone if you're unsure you could live with the issues above and let the early adopters either confirm or deny the issues before purchasing so you don't wind up with a restocking fee if you're in the U.S.
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lol... of course, I too hope that the issues were caused by buggy software, but just because that's what I want doesn't mean it's the answer. Seems like most people on this forum have forgotten that.

Yeah as I noticed that there seems to a be a lot of glithces and due the fact that I needed a phone quickly (my old SGS3 got stolen). I decided to go for Note 2 for now and wait to see what happens to Nexus 4 in the following months.
As for now Note 2 has been surprisingly good. I was ready for okeish SGS3 experience with bigger screen but this has been so much better than expected

You are right, might we need to wait a few weeks to determinate if we can buy this or not, however, I have a lot of respect for engineers and I don't think the come to blast the market (299$) with a crappy phone if we have on mind, Google select the hardware very carefully..

Please post in one of the existing review threads.
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POLL: How many phones ordered?

This is an attempt to count the Sales of phones Google sold on day one. Lets face it, a good percentage of people who ordered this phone browse these forums......So if you ordered 2 or 3 lets count those as well. All countries included....
How many phones did you buy?
Also if you are one of the ones reselling on Ebay, lets NOT count those....you don't need to identify yourself of course, just remain silent...... So we can add roughly 280 for those......

There's already a thread.

Only 2% of all those that buy nexus use xda lol...but ok 1

I only bought 1 for myself. The profit margin here from reselling does not seem worth it to me for the time and hassle of reselling. Plus I hate wanting something so bad but it being sold out cause of resellers.

Clay said:
There's already a thread.
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Yes, but it is not specific to the amount sold....it only asks if you managed to get 1 or if you got more than 1.....I am attempting to count how many of us were lucky enough to get one.

lazarat said:
Only 2% of all those that buy nexus use xda lol...but ok 1
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I honeslty have no clue as to the percentage, but I would think it would be a lot higher than 2% I would guess as much as 60-70% (this purely an UN-educated guess.....and based on the 7-800 pages of "did you get one?" thread.....)

I bought 3

ctowne said:
I bought 3
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Mark in the poll up top to count them up......I for one am not going to go through 10's if not hundreds of pages to count...Hence the poll! Thx.

I got an 8gb at midnight last night. Google said it should be here by Friday. We'll shall see about that. Got a case at 3am too lol.
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Jasonator said:
I honeslty have no clue as to the percentage, but I would think it would be a lot higher than 2% I would guess as much as 60-70% (this purely an UN-educated guess.....and based on the 7-800 pages of "did you get one?" thread.....)
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Doubtful - 3 people in my office tried and only one of us got. I'm the only one on XDA. To my knowledge others in the building tried, also not members of XDA. Various people I know were trying to get this, also not on XDA. We're the minority.

Cactus42 said:
Doubtful - 3 people in my office tried and only one of us got. I'm the only one on XDA. To my knowledge others in the building tried, also not members of XDA. Various people I know were trying to get this, also not on XDA. We're the minority.
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Thats very interesting. I buy and sell phones locally ( not the N4, this is for my personal use) and almost everyperson I deal with has heard of these forums....

Jasonator said:
Thats very interesting. I buy and sell phones locally ( not the N4, this is for my personal use) and almost everyperson I deal with has heard of these forums....
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They've heard of XDA, I've pointed them here on more than one occasion when they've had problems, but I'm the only registered member. So as members here with accounts, we are the minority.

where is 0? many people were unable to order a device.

If your answer is greater than 2, you should die in a fire, lol

UKROB86 said:
where is 0? many people were unable to order a device.
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I am merely trying to gauge how many people actually bought one...not ow many couldnt get one.

I got two, for me (Galaxy Nexus) & my girlfriend (original Galaxy S).

Anyone consider jumping ship?

Anyone ever consider jumping ship to apple to end the crack flashing. I don't know if this is a problem only I deal with but every time I have an android phone, especially with the nexus, I feel compelled to flash sometimes multiple times a day. Think I have a problem

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Anyone ever consider jumping ship to apple to end the crack flashing. I don't know if this is a problem only I deal with but every time I have an android phone, especially with the nexus, I feel compelled to flash sometimes multiple times a day. Think I have a problem
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Blasphemy!!! I verbally and physically attack all friends who use and think iPhone's are superior to Android (good Android). I'm also a flashaholic...I've never considered jumping to iOS and never will...for me an iPhone is for old people who can't grasp technology and tween girls who think having an iPhone makes them "cool" lol.

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Blasphemy!!! I verbally and physically attack all friends who use and think iPhone's are superior to Android (good Android). I'm also a flashaholic...I've never considered jumping to iOS and never will...for me an iPhone is for old people who can't grasp technology and tween girls who think having an iPhone makes them "cool" lol.
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I know, i know. It's crazy talk. Thought has crossed my mind though.

You must be tripping...

[/COLOR]Nex US Nex US... Use multi ROM and fill it with other ROMs without backups or losing the stock ROM.
Sent by aged flatus...

hockeyplayr said:
Anyone ever consider jumping ship to apple to end the crack flashing. I don't know if this is a problem only I deal with but every time I have an android phone, especially with the nexus, I feel compelled to flash sometimes multiple times a day. Think I have a problem
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Try it, but you know what's going to happen right? You will come back running lol

Lepa79 said:
Try it, but you know what's going to happen right? You will come back running lol
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No he won't. He'll feel all warm, cozy, protected, and fully satisfied under the all-knowing and all-satisfying blanket that is Apple.

Moderators. Please, close this thread.

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Moderators. Please, close this thread.
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Moderators cannot read every single thread. If you want to bring their attention to it, use the report button underneath post 1.

Had Nexus devices/HTCs/etc. Sold it to get an iPhone 6 (to stop my addiction). One month later, I've just sold the iPhone and about to buy a Nexus 6
Don't get me wrong, Apple do some stuff brilliantly (Touch ID is awesome!) but I just use Google's services too much

EddyOS said:
Had Nexus devices/HTCs/etc. Sold it to get an iPhone 6 (to stop my addiction). One month later, I've just sold the iPhone and about to buy a Nexus 6
Don't get me wrong, Apple do some stuff brilliantly (Touch ID is awesome!) but I just use Google's services too much
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Welcome to the N6. Maybe a good opportunity to change your avatar

danarama said:
Welcome to the N6. Maybe a good opportunity to change your avatar
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Not got it yet, waiting on the buyer to pay! CPW have a good deal on at the moment so hoping to grab it this evening
Once I have it, I'll update everything accordingly
EDIT: Screw it - avatar changed!

EddyOS said:
Not got it yet, waiting on the buyer to pay! CPW have a good deal on at the moment so hoping to grab it this evening
Once I have it, I'll update everything accordingly
EDIT: Screw it - avatar changed!
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Heheh cool.
Oh hey by the way, I'm SUroot (AF) / rootSU (XDA) , if you remember me.

danarama said:
Heheh cool.
Oh hey by the way, I'm SUroot (AF) / rootSU (XDA) , if you remember me.
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Ahhhhh! Yes, I remember. How come you changed your name?

EddyOS said:
Ahhhhh! Yes, I remember. How come you changed your name?
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People kept tagging me "SuperSU" in posts and people were apparently getting "confused". Plus I was a little bored of it anyway

danarama said:
People kept tagging me "SuperSU" in posts and people were apparently getting "confused". Plus I was a little bored of it anyway
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Makes sense! Looks like I'm moving at the right time, Motorola have just dropped £80 off the N6 prices until June 30th (and CPW are even cheaper for the 64GB one)

EddyOS said:
Makes sense! Looks like I'm moving at the right time, Motorola have just dropped £80 off the N6 prices until June 30th (and CPW are even cheaper for the 64GB one)
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Yes good timing!
Still full price in Play?

danarama said:
Yes good timing!
Still full price in Play?
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Yes, strangely enough, although someone said the US Play Store is discounted...

Never. I hate ios

EddyOS said:
Yes, strangely enough, although someone said the US Play Store is discounted...
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That is odd. I preferred to get from Play this time round for warranty purposes. I'm not sure its worth the extra though

OnePlus terminating dev seeding program

As title says, OnePlus will no longer provide devices for developers. Info here: https://twitter.com/topjohnwu/status/1067440574729457664

justibasa said:
As title says, OnePlus will no longer provide devices for developers. Info here: https://twitter.com/topjohnwu/status/1067440574729457664
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Better send devices to reviewers

justibasa said:
As title says, OnePlus will no longer provide devices for developers. Info here: https://twitter.com/topjohnwu/status/1067440574729457664
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Time to find a new Dev friendly company. OP gonna f themselves with this move. The only reason they are so popular is because of the devs.

So .. we are mad because a company won't give you free stuff? This won't be a popular post, but it's true 99% of the people that use this phone will never care about any development. It would benefit the company to give the free phones to reviewers (where sales can be made) Even if everyone on this forum and the one plus forum didnt buy the device...it woukdnt pjase rhem one bit. #quethehate

They are killing the enthusiastic culture for money.

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Time to find a new Dev friendly company. OP gonna f themselves with this move. The only reason they are so popular is because of the devs.
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Too bad there are not many choices out there compared to a few years ago.
I hope I'm wrong here,but, I could see this creeping towards locked bootloaders if OnePlus' data indicates the overwhelming majority of users run a stock/unrooted phone.
Certainly,the partnership with T-Mobile is paying off, I could see this expanding to more carriers & if the price is right,OnePlus would drop aftermarket development like a bad habit....

This is the dead for Oneplus. We will see no custom rom on 6t. Look at 6 thread, there are just 4 or 5 roms. Oneplus hype is over. I give return now my 6t. The 5t was the last with good custom rom support.

AnoopKumar said:
They are killing the enthusiastic culture for money.
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Assuming 20 dev devices sent out, there's likely over the double amount of bought devices because of the devs. Seems like for such a small investment in the dev community should be worth it? Hell, the negative PR due to ending the program should cost more.

jkeith1 said:
So .. we are mad because a company won't give you free stuff? This won't be a popular post, but it's true 99% of the people that use this phone will never care about any development. It would benefit the company to give the free phones to reviewers (where sales can be made) Even if everyone on this forum and the one plus forum didnt buy the device...it woukdnt pjase rhem one bit. #quethehate
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They're not giving you (us) free stuff. They were giving very well established developers free phones. They had the list of developers posted some where. It was a very short list (under 50 world wide). It's a 0.002% kind of numbers they were giving out. (Based on the OP6 selling 1 million phones in the first month. We'll say they sold 2 million total since then). They're definitely giving out many more review phones. And overall it's a drop in the bucket compared to other advertising spending.
A good break down of this is the Linus Tech Tips video on computer hardware rebranding. He does a very basic break down of the costs of launching new hardware. And how much of a return they get by getting reviewers to review old hardware with a new name. It's not exactly the same as here. But there are users out there who purchase a phone based on development.
I'm only one person, and this is purely anecdotal, but the only reason I even considered this phone was due OnePlus previous history of being very developer friendly. Even with the half off deal through T-Mobile, I was still on the fence about getting this over a Pixel. I'll evaluate how this goes over the next year and if anything, I'll swap from a 2-3 year phone user to only using this phone for a year and go pick up the Pixel 4 next year.

hartleyshc said:
They're not giving you (us) free stuff. They were giving very well established developers free phones. They had the list of developers posted some where. It was a very short list (under 50 world wide). It's a 0.002% kind of numbers they were giving out. (Based on the OP6 selling 1 million phones in the first month. We'll say they sold 2 million total since then). They're definitely giving out many more review phones. And overall it's a drop in the bucket compared to other advertising revenues.
A good break down of this is the Linus Tech Tips video on computer hardware rebranding. He does a very basic break down of the costs of launching new hardware. And how much of a return they get by getting reviewers to review old hardware with a new name. It's not exactly the same as here. But there are users out there who purchase a phone based on development.
I'm only one person, and this is purely anecdotal, but the only reason I even considered this phone was due OnePlus previous history of being very developer friendly. Even with the half off deal through T-Mobile, I was still on the fence about getting this over a Pixel. I'll evaluate how this goes over the next year and if anything, I'll swap from a 2-3 year phone user to only using this phone for a year and go pick up the Pixel 4 next year.
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I specifically use OP because I can mess with it, root it, change things. A month after the Galaxy phones come out, they drop to nearly what OP sells them for new. If I can't root my phone, why would I settle for the corners that OP cuts over a better - mostly everything - on a Samsung or Pixel? No reason in my mind.

hartleyshc said:
They're not giving you (us) free stuff. They were giving very well established developers free phones. They had the list of developers posted some where. It was a very short list (under 50 world wide). It's a 0.002% kind of numbers they were giving out. (Based on the OP6 selling 1 million phones in the first month. We'll say they sold 2 million total since then). They're definitely giving out many more review phones. And overall it's a drop in the bucket compared to other advertising spending.
A good break down of this is the Linus Tech Tips video on computer hardware rebranding. He does a very basic break down of the costs of launching new hardware. And how much of a return they get by getting reviewers to review old hardware with a new name. It's not exactly the same as here. But there are users out there who purchase a phone based on development.
I'm only one person, and this is purely anecdotal, but the only reason I even considered this phone was due OnePlus previous history of being very developer friendly. Even with the half off deal through T-Mobile, I was still on the fence about getting this over a Pixel. I'll evaluate how this goes over the next year and if anything, I'll swap from a 2-3 year phone user to only using this phone for a year and go pick up the Pixel 4 next year.
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Fair enough, good post.

SpectraFun said:
This is the dead for Oneplus. We will see no custom rom on 6t. Look at 6 thread, there are just 4 or 5 roms. Oneplus hype is over. I give return now my 6t. The 5t was the last with good custom rom support.
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Not to be rude but you seem to be posting very negative comments about custom roms and developers for the 6t. If you don't like the phone, return it. And as I've stated elsewhere, developers have been busting their butts trying to get twrp up and running. Which as of yesterday is now available. I personally don't see custom roms coming out until a permanent twrp was available. Now that that is, I'm sure there will be roms coming out in relatively short time. Personally I find your negative comments insulting to developers. Again if you are unhappy with the device then return it, no one's stopping you. I'm not trying to pick on you, I just find it frustrating and again demeaning to all the hard work that devs have been putting into making this phone available to use custom roms on. Rant done.
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Not to be rude but you seem to be posting very negative comments about custom roms and developers for the 6t. If you don't like the phone, return it. And as I've stated elsewhere, developers have been busting their butts trying to get twrp up and running. Which as of yesterday is now available. I personally don't see custom roms coming out until a permanent twrp was available. Now that that is, I'm sure there will be roms coming out in relatively short time. Personally I find your negative comments insulting to developers. Again if you are unhappy with the device then return it, no one's stopping you. I'm not trying to pick on you, I just find it frustrating and again demeaning to all the hard work that devs have been putting into making this phone available to use custom roms on. Rant done.
Sent from my ONEPLUS A6013 using XDA-Developers Legacy app
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No point to waste your time man it's just another entitled user that thinks XDA is a place to make your phone cool not a developer forum.

ozzmanj1 said:
Not to be rude but you seem to be posting very negative comments about custom roms and developers for the 6t. If you don't like the phone, return it. And as I've stated elsewhere, developers have been busting their butts trying to get twrp up and running. Which as of yesterday is now available. I personally don't see custom roms coming out until a permanent twrp was available. Now that that is, I'm sure there will be roms coming out in relatively short time. Personally I find your negative comments insulting to developers. Again if you are unhappy with the device then return it, no one's stopping you. I'm not trying to pick on you, I just find it frustrating and again demeaning to all the hard work that devs have been putting into making this phone available to use custom roms on. Rant done.
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That's a lot nicer than I would have put it. Just didn't want to get banned. ??

Give it a year or so and the bootloaders will be unlockable.

I think a good amount of the posting is to "ruffle the feathers."
It's not like the ONLY people who develop a device are those that get a free device from the manufacturer.
If you want development on a phone that has flagship-like specs (good screen, latest snapdragon, above average camera) there isn't much selection in the USA. It's this or a Pixel or buy something abroad (e.g. Exynos based Galaxy). Otherwise your out of luck. As long as the bootloader remains easily unlocked and their devices are easily rooted I could care less.
Typical click-bait type of article with the expected response.

sssarg said:
Assuming 20 dev devices sent out, there's likely over the double amount of bought devices because of the devs. Seems like for such a small investment in the dev community should be worth it? Hell, the negative PR due to ending the program should cost more.
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The majority of their customers won't even understand what this means let alone care that OP stopped doing it. The impact it will have on their sales will be a rounding error. Yes, as a percentage of total units sold, OP likely has more customers that root/ROM vs companies like Samsung. However, it looks like they're trying to focus on the main part of the business and not deal with small things that don't drive significant sales. That puts a program like this on the chopping block.

I get why they might do this, however, the only reason I buy OnePlus devices is the development support. So if development dies, I don't buy anymore phones. We have multiple OP phones in the house. I bought the 5T and now the 6T before Lineage was out, sounds like I won't buy anymore devices until ROMs are available just to be certain. The problem with that is with the short development cycle by the time that happens OP maybe onto the next device...
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It's not like the ONLY people who develop a device are those that get a free device from the manufacturer.
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This is a very valid point.

threatening to not buy devices because of lack of development is like spitting into a hurricane; no one will notice, and it wont matter one bit..
once any of the enthusiast companies start to get large sales volume, and smell corporate business, their willingness to help enthusiasts of any sort diminishes greatly..If google thought they could land more giant corporate accounts by locking down the pixel phones like samsung did, they would do it in a minute..follow the money is what all my friends tell me now a days, and they are right..
You can be as outraged as you want to over OP deciding to drop "free" anything to developers; its not going to effect any change of any sort, so you might as well save your outrage for something else..sooner or later, all bootloaders will be locked, and you wont have any better choices..

Did everyone see the update from OnePlus?
“Apologies, we weren’t as clear as we could have been. We’ve temporarily scaled back our developer program while we work out how to make it even better in the future. We’ll be updating the selection criteria and communication channels with developers in our seeding program for better co-operation. We will restart the program and select Devs based on the new criteria and will work on providing the best possible support to community development efforts for OnePlus devices.” – OnePlus Spokesperson
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