Hello,
We have just launched Smart Unlock app and we need to know if is compatible with Nexus 6 because wwe do not have this device.
Can you please test it and let us know. Its a 7 day free trial but we can offert a full refund if someone want to buy it, we do not want to take any profit for xda members helping us to test our app.
Tha app is Smart Unlock and extends dafault smart lock functionality by adding wifi trusted devices.
Hope you like it and it works properly on nexus 6, thanks for testing.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.loadinghome.smartunlock
hazex said:
Hello,
We have just launched Smart Unlock app and we need to know if is compatible with Nexus 6 because wwe do not have this device.
Can you please test it and let us know. Its a 7 day free trial but we can offert a full refund if someone want to buy it, we do not want to take any profit for xda members helping us to test our app.
Tha app is Smart Unlock and extends dafault smart lock functionality by adding wifi trusted devices.
Hope you like it and it works properly on nexus 6, thanks for testing.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.loadinghome.smartunlock
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You're doing it wrong. A 'free' app that you have to pay for is stupid. If you're going to charge for it, just charge for it. Making it a mandatory in-app purchase is stupid. If you want to do a 7 day trial, extend the refund windows for your customers. There's nothing worse than trialware.
FREE software! Just kidding, it's a trial, then you can pay for it! Lame.
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You're doing it wrong. A 'free' app that you have to pay for is stupid. If you're going to charge for it, just charge for it. Making it a mandatory in-app purchase is stupid. If you want to do a 7 day trial, extend the refund windows for your customers. There's nothing worse than trialware.
FREE software! Just kidding, it's a trial, then you can pay for it! Lame.
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Hey.
The app is a paid add. We offer a 7 days trial to test and check compatibility.
Im not here for selling apps, I´m here asking for testing on nexus 6. If I have to give free copies I will do it, no problems.
We are also considering a XDA version of theis app limited in number of secure devices and no in time. But is not decided yet. In this case would be completelly free.
hazex said:
Hey.
The app is a paid add. We offer a 7 days trial to test and check compatibility.
Im not here for selling apps, I´m here asking for testing on nexus 6. If I have to give free copies I will do it, no problems.
We are also considering a XDA version of theis app limited in number of secure devices and no in time. But is not decided yet. In this case would be completelly free.
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No, you're doing exactly what I've stated. You're offering a 'free' app, with in-app purchases. However, the 'in-app purchase' is the app itself. So it's forced. You either pay for it after 7 days, or it doesn't work. If your app is going to be paid, make people pay for it up front. Don't be sneaky trying to get your app listed as free when it's really not.
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No, you're doing exactly what I've stated. You're offering a 'free' app, with in-app purchases. However, the 'in-app purchase' is the app itself. So it's forced. You either pay for it after 7 days, or it doesn't work. If your app is going to be paid, make people pay for it up front. Don't be sneaky trying to get your app listed as free when it's really not.
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Time trials is a normal practice in android to let user try the app carefully before purchase. Is stated in the first line of our description at google play. I can understand is not accepted at XDA developers forum, thats why we are creating a new exclusive version of the app, but inapp purchases (time limted) are very common on google play.
We are working on a XDA version, limited on number of secure devices (probably 2) and no limited in time. Exclusive for XDA members.
Do you thinks this would be enought?
I would like to listen your suggestions.
hazex said:
Time trials is a normal practice in android to let user try the app carefully before purchase. Is stated in the first line of our description at google play. I can understand is not accepted at XDA developers forum, thats why we are creating a new exclusive version of the app, but inapp purchases (time limted) are very common on google play.
We are working on a XDA version, limited on number of secure devices (probably 2) and no limited in time. Exclusive for XDA members.
Do you thinks this would be enought?
I would like to listen your suggestions.
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Does your app continue to work after 7 days, or are you required to purchase the license?
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Does your app continue to work after 7 days, or are you required to purchase the license?
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He already said they are working on a version for XDA free. The version they have on the play store just a trial for 7 days then it's .99 cent.
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He already said they are working on a version for XDA free. The version they have on the play store just a trial for 7 days then it's .99 cent.
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I heard what he said. It's not a matter of me not understanding. I know exactly what is happening here.
I just hate the whole "free, but not really" app model. Trial or not, if you're going to make me pay for it, I want to do it up front, not through some in-app purchase. I'd rather pay for it, then have an available 7-day refund window. This is not so much a personal preference, as a marketing conception. What you're doing is giving someone something for free, then making them pay for it after they decide they like it. What you COULD be doing is making someone pay for something, then offering them a refund well past the google refund window if they decide they don't like it. While it's essentially the same thing, the perception is that you're going above and beyond what other developers are willing to do by extending their refund window.
My personal opinion is that if I'm going to have to pay for something, I want to pay for it when I get it. A trial is good, but I think the delivery needs work.
why would i want to pay for something that Google already provides built in? i wouldn't feel safe knowing that a wifi ssid can be spoofed if this app were using it to unlock (which is the exact reason why Google didn't put that into their Google Play Services). seems like nothing more than a way to separate stupid people from their money.
Lucke said:
why would i want to pay for something that Google already provides built in? i wouldn't feel safe knowing that a wifi ssid can be spoofed if this app were using it to unlock (which is the exact reason why Google didn't put that into their Google Play Services). seems like nothing more than a way to separate stupid people from their money.
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Smart Unlock is already built in to Android 5.0
Lucke said:
why would i want to pay for something that Google already provides built in? i wouldn't feel safe knowing that a wifi ssid can be spoofed if this app were using it to unlock (which is the exact reason why Google didn't put that into their Google Play Services). seems like nothing more than a way to separate stupid people from their money.
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Many people is haveing issues with "Trusted places" in android built in smart lock.
With Smart Unlock we add WIFIs using MAC address wich is not easy to spoof (and is ilegall), specially if you dont now the AP mac that you want to spoof.
Personally I find our app more reliable than native smart lock and, instead of smart lock, this app can also be used with android 4.1+
Thanks for your time and suggestions.
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I heard what he said. It's not a matter of me not understanding. I know exactly what is happening here.
I just hate the whole "free, but not really" app model. Trial or not, if you're going to make me pay for it, I want to do it up front, not through some in-app purchase. I'd rather pay for it, then have an available 7-day refund window. This is not so much a personal preference, as a marketing conception. What you're doing is giving someone something for free, then making them pay for it after they decide they like it. What you COULD be doing is making someone pay for something, then offering them a refund well past the google refund window if they decide they don't like it. While it's essentially the same thing, the perception is that you're going above and beyond what other developers are willing to do by extending their refund window.
My personal opinion is that if I'm going to have to pay for something, I want to pay for it when I get it. A trial is good, but I think the delivery needs work.
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We have been thinking about your comment . I do not completelly agree with you, but you are right in some points. We will modify our bussiness model for this app. The app at Google Play will have 1 or 2 trusted devices, always, for free. If you want to add more trusted devices you will have to pay and get the full version for unlimited number of devices. Anyway, we will make a special version for XDA members, unlimited in time and limited with 2 or 3 trusted devices.
To get back on topic - no, it doesn't seem like Smart Unlock works with the Nexus 6. At least not the way it should.
In Lollipop, you see the regular (slide) lock screen before you see the Pattern/PIN/Password lock screen. So you swipe up, then enter your passcode.
With the stock implementation of Smart Lock, when you're connected to a trusted device, you still see the slide lock screen - you just don't get the secure lock screen. This app bypasses both the slide and the secure lock screen when enabled and connected to a trusted environment, meaning if you press the power button to wake the device, you're immediately shown your home screen. Pocket dialing and other similar accidents are almost guaranteed with this app installed.
I think it's because of the relationship between forced encryption and lock screen security on the Nexus 6. Since the N6 is encrypted by default, but no pattern PIN or password is set as the decryption method yet, everything defaults to "default-password". But when you set up a secure lock screen for the first time on the Nexus 6, this becomes your new decrpytion password. Since the Nexus 6 does not give you the option to un-encrypt your data, it will not allow you to switch back to "Slide" as your lock screen method, since that would remove the decrpytion password. It grays out the option entirely, and only a factory reset will bring it back.
Amazingly enough, I figured all of that out without having to make any in-app purchases. If this were a paid app to begin with instead of your current business model, I would have been reluctant to buy it in the first place knowing that you can't re-enable the "Slide" lock screen once you've enabled a secure one, and that ultimately, this probably wouldn't work on my device. So thanks for giving me a 7-day free trial and explicitly stating that in your app's description, which is a fair and reasonable business practice despite what other people and their half-baked, thread-derailing agendas may tell you.
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To get back on topic - no, it doesn't seem like Smart Unlock works with the Nexus 6. At least not the way it should.
In Lollipop, you see the regular (slide) lock screen before you see the Pattern/PIN/Password lock screen. So you swipe up, then enter your passcode.
With the stock implementation of Smart Lock, when you're connected to a trusted device, you still see the slide lock screen - you just don't get the secure lock screen. This app bypasses both the slide and the secure lock screen when enabled and connected to a trusted environment, meaning if you press the power button to wake the device, you're immediately shown your home screen. Pocket dialing and other similar accidents are almost guaranteed with this app installed.
I think it's because of the relationship between forced encryption and lock screen security on the Nexus 6. Since the N6 is encrypted by default, but no pattern PIN or password is set as the decryption method yet, everything defaults to "default-password". But when you set up a secure lock screen for the first time on the Nexus 6, this becomes your new decrpytion password. Since the Nexus 6 does not give you the option to un-encrypt your data, it will not allow you to switch back to "Slide" as your lock screen method, since that would remove the decrpytion password. It grays out the option entirely, and only a factory reset will bring it back.
Amazingly enough, I figured all of that out without having to make any in-app purchases. If this were a paid app to begin with instead of your current business model, I would have been reluctant to buy it in the first place knowing that you can't re-enable the "Slide" lock screen once you've enabled a secure one, and that ultimately, this probably wouldn't work on my device. So thanks for giving me a 7-day free trial and explicitly stating that in your app's description, which is a fair and reasonable business practice despite what other people and their half-baked, thread-derailing agendas may tell you.
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Hi!
We can not keep slide at trusted enviroments due to technical dificulties. We may be able to do it only on rooted devices, but we prefer to keep our app simple.
I was not aware about encryption on nexus 6 after configuring secure lock, but you are right and we can not revert this proccess.
About the bussiness model , we are not sure if in the market will keep the trial as it is now, but for sure we will publish, in a couple of hours, a XDA version for testing purposes with unlimited time and up to 3 trusted devices.
Thanks for your reply, I really appreciate it
Hello, I have created an app thread with a XDA version of the app not limited in time.
If anyone is interested here is the app thread.
Thanks for your testing time!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/apps-games/app-smart-unlock-xda-version-skip-t2974396/post57526442#post57526442
Will test on nexus 6 and let u know... Google smart unlock does not use wifi. It uses location knowledge which can consume more battery. Anyway if this works, it will be perfect for my needs
Does this app drain the battery huh
Via my NeXus™ 7FHD on XDA Premium app
What a bunch of AssHoles !
cobyman7035 said:
Does this app drain the battery huh
Via my NeXus™ 7FHD on XDA Premium app
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Hello,
This app is battery friendly and you can not almost notice that the app is running. You can try it and let us know your experience. Regards
aalupatti said:
Will test on nexus 6 and let u know... Google smart unlock does not use wifi. It uses location knowledge which can consume more battery. Anyway if this works, it will be perfect for my needs
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Hello, Let us know your experience after your tests!.
Anyway by other forum member with Nexus 6 here is his report : Sway40: "Seems to work on my n6, way better then stock, since trusted places doesn't work. "
Let us know after your tests! thanks.
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Has anyone given the AT&T apps a good try to see if any of them are good to keep?
I see instructions out there on how to wipe AT&T off of our phone, but haven't seen anybody comment on why they're wiping the apps off besides to "get rid of the AT&T apps".
I'm just wondering if there might not be one or two of the included apps that are actually worthwhile to keep.
I know one I won't be sorry to delete is the mobiTV one. I loaded it up to the welcome screen then had to step away for a couple minutes. When I came back it kindly told me my 2 minute trial was up... LOL nice! So yeah, unless it really is an incredible piece of software worth buying I'll be dumping that one at least.
Many if not all require additional fees and subscriptions, despite free alternatives.
For example, the AT&T navigator app is $10 a month, but Google Maps is free.
There's also the matter of principle... the fact that AT&T made them non-removable is a compelling reason to get rid of them.
The only at&t app worth using is the att my wireless app that you can down load from the market place. It lets you keep track of your minutes usage, data usage, and change your plan.
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behrouz said:
The only at&t app worth using is the att my wireless app that you can down load from the market place. It lets you keep track of your minutes usage, data usage, and change your plan.
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I agree. Funny thing is, that's the only app AT&T didn't preinstall on the phone IIRC. I guess they expect you to pay money for their crappy services by default (or by mistaken clicks), but don't want you to have a way to track it so easily.
MikeyMike01 said:
Many if not all require additional fees and subscriptions, despite free alternatives.
For example, the AT&T navigator app is $10 a month, but Google Maps is free.
There's also the matter of principle... the fact that AT&T made them non-removable is a compelling reason to get rid of them.
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Point...Set...Match
You just staited my two primary reasons.
It is disgusting that AT&T forcefully occupies space on lesser phones with pay apps. Just appalling.
Well ok then, looks like I'll be clearing them all off! lol
i got rid of all my ATT apps lol
sschrupp said:
Has anyone given the AT&T apps a good try to see if any of them are good to keep?
I see instructions out there on how to wipe AT&T off of our phone, but haven't seen anybody comment on why they're wiping the apps off besides to "get rid of the AT&T apps".
I'm just wondering if there might not be one or two of the included apps that are actually worthwhile to keep.
I know one I won't be sorry to delete is the mobiTV one. I loaded it up to the welcome screen then had to step away for a couple minutes. When I came back it kindly told me my 2 minute trial was up... LOL nice! So yeah, unless it really is an incredible piece of software worth buying I'll be dumping that one at least.
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I'm not sure if it's an AT&T app, but the music player that comes on our phone is awesome!
I even started a thread asking if there was a way we could extract it or reinstall it after flashing a different rom. Hah. I like it.
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I'm not sure if it's an AT&T app, but the music player that comes on our phone is awesome!
I even started a thread asking if there was a way we could extract it or reinstall it after flashing a different rom. Hah. I like it.
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This is a Samsung app. We'll get it in new ROMS.
Look at about 1:05 on this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_3QwvMsBGjE
Yeah I have to say that music app is pretty nice.
Although I just installed one called "Moodagent" that is kind of neat. Haven't had a chance to fully explore it, but it appears to have quite a few features along with the main interface that's a bit gimicky, but cool. It has sliders that you adjust up or down (Sensual, Tender, Happy, Angry, Tempo) and it adjusts the playlist according to the levels you set. Probably old news to everyone else but interesting to me!
everything that is labeled att_nameofprogram is pretty much useless. the other programs like allshare or instant messaging may still be usefull.
Allshare
If you interest in using DLNA, the Allshare app may be a good one to keep. Although, I have one major problem with it: you can only add 1 song at a time to the Queue. What a pain.
But I haven't found any good alternatives yet.
I opened the 'Where' app, and (stupidly) breezed past some part about a monthly charge if I don't cancel. Has anyone else run into this? And if so, do you know how to cancel?
"Where" does AT&T get the idea they can charge for this?
You probably want to call AT&T ASAP to make sure you don't get charged for using the Where app. Also, stop using the included one and download the free one!
Funny story about the Where app:
I had a Nexus One and saw that Where was on a lot of "best app" lists for Android so I went to the market to get it. It was nowhere to be found. After a bit of research, I found some vague explanation about how AT&T had a deal with Where and that they blocked it. This really pissed me off since I paid full price for the N1 with no subsidy from AT&T -- how dare they block apps? Anyway, I found the APK online and installed it.
Later, I rooted my phone and installed the MarketAccess app. Now I could find Where in the Market and installed it from there -- still free of course. When I got the Captivate, the first thing I did was root it. When I saw that Where was pre-installed, I thought "great, now I don't have to jump through hoops to get it." Luckily I saw the warning about being charged, what, $2.99/month to use an app that is free for every user of every other Android phone? I promptly used Titanium Backup to remove the pre-installed version and then used MarketAccess to download the free version from the Market.
The point is that AT&T is really trying hard to charge extra for things that every other Android user gets for free (maps, navigation, Where, etc). Very frustrating. My employer pays for the service on my Captivate and I will be moving my wife's phone (that I pay for) to the Epic 4G at the end of this month after being an AT&T customer for 7 years.
What about AT&T Hot Spots?
I visit Starbucks frequently and occasionally McDonalds. Both offer free WiFi, but require you to check a box and click a button to agree to terms before using it. I know that's not a big deal, but it is a little bit of a hassle especially if I am not planning to use the browser anyway -- I just want to go straight into another app that uses WiFi.
Since I got the Captivate, I've noticed that as soon as I turn on WiFi while at either of these places, I get a notification that says "AT&T Hotspot Detected" or something like that and I am able to use WiFi without having to visit the agreement page in the browser.
Does anyone know whether this app is required for this detection and agreement bypass to function? I have thought about making a backup with Ti Backup, uninstalling, and testing it but am worried that it might not reinstall properly. Also, it might be handy for finding hotspots when traveling -- making it the only useful AT&T pre-installed app.
ATT wifi hotspot app seems to be useful to connect to Attwifi hotspots without having to manually agree to terms
does anyone have a copy of it ?
anilkuj said:
ATT wifi hotspot app seems to be useful to connect to Attwifi hotspots without having to manually agree to terms
does anyone have a copy of it ?
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I have it and will try to make a backup and post it within the next couple of days. It might be Monday before I can do it, unless someone else beats me to the punch.
Update: I still have it on my phone, but it seems that Titaniun Backup only backs up the data, not the APK. I also tried Mybackup Pro with the same result. I have root, so if someone knows how to extract a system app as an APK please let me know. I haven't searched yet, BTW, so if I find out how to do this myself I'll update this post (again).
rajendra82 said:
I agree. Funny thing is, that's the only app AT&T didn't preinstall on the phone IIRC. I guess they expect you to pay money for their crappy services by default (or by mistaken clicks), but don't want you to have a way to track it so easily.
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I swear they are only doing that to mess with us. While it's not hard to completely remove all AT&T ware, it's fairly simple to hide the apps with LauncherPro.
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I have it and will try to make a backup and post it within the next couple of days. It might be Monday before I can do it, unless someone else beats me to the punch.
Update: I still have it on my phone, but it seems that Titaniun Backup only backs up the data, not the APK. I also tried Mybackup Pro with the same result. I have root, so if someone knows how to extract a system app as an APK please let me know. I haven't searched yet, BTW, so if I find out how to do this myself I'll update this post (again).
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Got it! Thanks to:
forum.cyanogenmod.com/topic/3319-stock-apps-that-can-be-deleted-post-root/
Here is the APK (zipped). I'm not sure whether you can just install it like any other APK or if you have to use adb to push it to /system/app. If you try it please let me know what worked (if it works).
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Got it! Thanks to:
forum.cyanogenmod.com/topic/3319-stock-apps-that-can-be-deleted-post-root/
Here is the APK (zipped). I'm not sure whether you can just install it like any other APK or if you have to use adb to push it to /system/app. If you try it please let me know what worked (if it works).
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thanks jason let me try that, will update soon
I will be using my GTab as my primary travel "laptop" since it's much easier to tug on a plane and the battery lasts 4 times longer.
This means I may very well have sensitive information, including my contact list, on it at any given time. I'm concerned that if I do this and it's stolen in an Airport or left in a cab that I could have a data breach.
What security options have people used? I'm concerned first about locking the device to keep out the average joe, but I also would like to have an encrypted section on the SDCard for sensitive file storage. I assume there's no way to encrypt contacts or email on the device, but other documents and spreadsheets would be good.
There's still a LOT of things I'd never put on a mobile device, but at times I might need to travel with sensitive information.
My suggestion for sensitive data would be a seperate Thumb drive with password protection. Just to be on the safe side. Use pin or password security on the tablet as opposed to lockscreen gesture. I use all the dots for my gesture so that my fingerprint trails can't be easily traced over.
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boilock is coming
Has anyone tried the premium version of "Lookout".apk ? I have the basic virus scanner version, but the premium claims to include remoted data wipe and remote lock. Just google it for more info. The premium costs $29.99 per year
Vegan has the logon security option. I use it on mine.....
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yes it is http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8KRelvzkXdU
hope this works on the gtab think it would be pretty sweet!
Lookout
insight3fl said:
Has anyone tried the premium version of "Lookout".apk ? I have the basic virus scanner version, but the premium claims to include remoted data wipe and remote lock. Just google it for more info. The premium costs $29.99 per year
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I use Lookout premium for my Vibrant, and am researching to see if I can apply my premium protections to an additional device. I have been very happy with Lookout. Of all the programs out there this was the one I found to be best in terms of locking my phone remotely and not giving someone an easy way to figure out how to unlock it. Not sure if it will do the same for my rooted G Tab though. I'll let you know what I find out...
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I use Lookout premium for my Vibrant, and am researching to see if I can apply my premium protections to an additional device. I have been very happy with Lookout. Of all the programs out there this was the one I found to be best in terms of locking my phone remotely and not giving someone an easy way to figure out how to unlock it. Not sure if it will do the same for my rooted G Tab though. I'll let you know what I find out...
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I checked with Lookout and they said that I can have two devices on my account. The only caveat is that since my G Tablet has no number it can't take advantage of advanced features that require SMS communication with the Lookout server. But the install went fine, signing in went fine, and I am now scanned and good to go!
How would lookout "Find your phone if it is lost or stolen"??? off of the Wifi signal if it is avaliable for the tablet?
Each day in the Amazon Android Apps market they give away an APP that you would normally have to pay for.
The FREE app for today (Wed April 27th) is BUSINESS CALENDAR and it sells normally for $4.99.
This is the best calendar app I have used on an android device, hands-down. It syncs with all of your google calendars - not just the primary ones for any account - and offers a mryiad of options for display, including home screen widgets.
Don't miss it.
http://gigaom.com/mobile/best-android-calendar-app-free/
- michael
I got it and like it much better than the G calender... Can't beat FREE!
Yeh I was using the free version and it rocked. Nice to have the full version now.
While I throroughly enjoy getting a free app every day, does anyone else have the same apprehensions I have when it comes to Amazon App Store?
I tend ot browse through it, then find an app I may be interested in, but ALWAYS feel like I shouldn't buy it becuase there's a chance it will be free soon.
It really is a nice perk to their store. Even at $1.00 each, after a year you've received $365 worth of apps, for nothing!!
i would suspect that the dev is still getting paid. i would believe amazon would foot the bill to pay the dev or something. but i'm just guessing
I know a dev who says that when they do this they pay the dev a percentage everytime someone downloads it. So yes, the devs are getting paid for this.
A percentage of nothing?
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A percentage of nothing?
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No, I can't remember exactly where I read it, but it is something like 20% of their minimum selling price that they define, or something like that. So, if the calendar was $5.00, Amazon would pay them $1.00 for each download when it was the free app of the day.
Maybe someone can post the exact info, but that's the general idea.
What I like about the Amazon App store is that you can download the app once and use the appstore to install it on more than one device. Plus it keeps them stored for you, so it is a type of free app backup too.
I've just been blasted by my boss for allowing an executive buy a galaxy note.
The primary reason appears to be poor security in Android.
My understanding is that Android has a few weaknesses around bad apps but it's not "intrinsically" unsecure... Is it?
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I've just been blasted by my boss for allowing an executive buy a galaxy note.
The primary reason appears to be poor security in Android.
My understanding is that Android has a few weaknesses around bad apps but it's not "intrinsically" unsecure... Is it?
Sent from my GT-N7000 using Tapatalk
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as long as you check permissions before installing a new app, you'll be fine. ie. if a game asks to make calls and send SMS, obviously its a trap.
if youre concerned, there are some security apps around.
senectus said:
I've just been blasted by my boss for allowing an executive buy a galaxy note.
The primary reason appears to be poor security in Android.
My understanding is that Android has a few weaknesses around bad apps but it's not "intrinsically" unsecure... Is it?
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I had to wait for Android 2.2 to finally offer passcodes (PIN, passwords options instead of patterns that some people could figure out by looking at finger oil patterns on the off screen ; see Settings->Security->Screen lock)
Under Applications make sure "Unknown sources" is not checked which would allow installation of non-Market applications unless the user trusts the source for a particular app that has not yet made it to market ( for example I had to temporarily check it to install TeamViewer before they had an official market app then unchecked it right after to return it to its default state).
I installed free security app Lookout (see description) iOS devices can locate, sound-message, lock & wipe remotely which should be standard free features of Android IMO but at least Lookout offers locate-alarm, contact backup-restore for free with remote lock-wipe & advanced backup as a premium feature in addition to antivirus-malware security.
Android market is not as closed as iOS app store's walled garden so look at permissions as mentioned particularly when the apps are not from a big reputable company but I still prefer Android's open model with aforementioned caveats. Lastly rooting phones could make them vulnerable. Any other apps people recommend?
I can't get the Amazon Appstore app to install. It gives me the message "Do you want to install this application? It will get access to:" then a list of areas and boxes for cancel or install. When I click install nothing happens. The cancel box works. (I did check the unknown sources in settings)
If it is being blocked by Google, that would suck.
I'm pretty shure its being blocked by Google.
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Threevo said:
I'm pretty shure its being blocked by Google.
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If it's being blocked I might return my Nexus 7. It would suck that they would only let you buy apps from them.
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I can't get the Amazon Appstore app to install. It gives me the message "Do you want to install this application? It will get access to:" then a list of areas and boxes for cancel or install. When I click install nothing happens. The cancel box works. (I did check the unknown sources in settings)
If it is being blocked by Google, that would suck.
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Not true it's working for me. Go to Amazon& request a new link to be sent to your email.
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Thats strange, i was able to do it on my N7. Maybe a reboot of some sort?
Works fine here. Go into Setting>Security and check Allow unknown sources. Go to Amazon web site and follow instructions to download and install. Did that to download an older version of a zombie killing game that works on N7.
Works fine for me. I use it every day to get the free "cr"app of the day.
Try rebooting it then re-installing.
If you're installing it from a previous backup from another device, it most likely won't work (not assuming you are, but just in case...) Like the others said, go to Amazon and get it directly and you should have no problem.
What worked for me was clicking the link for tablets. It says something like "no email or phone number, click here" and that downloaded the APK directly into my system download folder. From there it installed just fine. I had to do this to get it on my Google TV also. It seems to bypass some sort of test since the Google TV isn't officially compatible with it.
I just worked with an Amazon tech, got it to install using by going to this like in the browser on the N7.
http://www.amazon.com/app-email
Works fine now.
Mine installed fine. I used the APK from my phone. Got a bunch of the nicer FAOTD apps working perfectly too.
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Works fine for me. I use it every day to get the free "cr"app of the day.
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Idk man, I've gotten a few awesome ones for free, like quick office, sketchbook mobile, and some games like monopoly for free.
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I find it incredible that everyone is giving Amazon a free pass for contributing to the Android Malware myth.
The fact you have to enable side loading on an Android phone to allow Amazon, means any other malware could also slip in. Using Amazon app store is a REALLY bad idea (plus the fact it's a barren wasteland compared to Google Play, and most of the apps are really out of date versions).
Surely the lure of free versions of old apps is not that strong that you want to open your phone up to allsorts of Android malware nasties?
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I find it incredible that everyone is giving Amazon a free pass for contributing to the Android Malware myth.
The fact you have to enable side loading on an Android phone to allow Amazon, means any other malware could also slip in. Using Amazon app store is a REALLY bad idea (plus the fact it's a barren wasteland compared to Google Play, and most of the apps are really out of date versions).
Surely the lure of free versions of old apps is not that strong that you want to open your phone up to allsorts of Android malware nasties?
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Bugger the Apps they get games too. Of course only if you're from a certain country.
Majority of the free apps are a joke.
I usually check it every day and realize they're all trash (except maybe 2 apps so far) and then I uninstall it. For some reason I get struck with the idiotic idea that I may be missing out on some good free apps, so I stupidly install it again in hopes of some decent apps...... it never happens
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Majority of the free apps are a joke.
I usually check it every day and realize they're all trash (except maybe 2 apps so far) and then I uninstall it. For some reason I get struck with the idiotic idea that I may be missing out on some good free apps, so I stupidly install it again in hopes of some decent apps...... it never happens
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That's what most people think. Once you discover what Amazon are offering for free is basically stuff that deserves to be free anyway, make sure you re-tick the Android security setting and revert back to the proper Android store that Google host.
mtfsandlin said:
Idk man, I've gotten a few awesome ones for free, like quick office, sketchbook mobile, and some games like monopoly for free.
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When it first came out, it was great. Now, the free app is usually a very crappy game. In the past, I got:
Fancy Widgets Pro, Weatherbug Elite, Thumb Keyboard, App 2 SD Pro, Moon Phase Pro, Quickoffice Pro, SoundHound Infinity, Shazam, SwiftKey 3, and several other good ones.
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That's what most people think. Once you discover what Amazon are offering for free is basically stuff that deserves to be free anyway, make sure you re-tick the Android security setting and revert back to the proper Android store that Google host.
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1. I've never once gotten malware and I always sideload apps. I always leave that setting unticked as do most folks I'm sure.
2. having Amazon app store or any other app store doesn't change your default android Google play store.
You want malware, go download Blackmarket apps or pirate stuff, you'll get it then. I do suggest tho, that everyone should install a malware scanner. Avast, lookout, etc.
CrazyPeter said:
I find it incredible that everyone is giving Amazon a free pass for contributing to the Android Malware myth.
The fact you have to enable side loading on an Android phone to allow Amazon, means any other malware could also slip in. Using Amazon app store is a REALLY bad idea (plus the fact it's a barren wasteland compared to Google Play, and most of the apps are really out of date versions).
Surely the lure of free versions of old apps is not that strong that you want to open your phone up to allsorts of Android malware nasties?
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What? Side loading doesn't put you at any greater risk of malware. You always choose to install an app, whether you side loaded it or not.
Nothing wrong or risky with downloading the Amazon app store, being able to choose a different app store is one of the best things about android. CHOICE.
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