[Q] Rooting with no SIM? - Nexus 6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

So, my N6 is supposed to arrive on Tuesday. I am currently using a Galaxy S3 on Verizon. I am going to trim my SIM card and pop it into the nexus when ready.
My question is, can I put on a custom recovery, root, decrypt, update to 5.0.1, etc all without utilizing the SIM? Is there anything specific other than using mobile cell/data services that are going to fail from not having a SIM? I know that when the SIM accidentally pops out of my GS3 the phone pops up a window saying a reboot is necessary to try to find the SIM and there is only a single OK/Reboot button and no other options.
I want to try to do all the main imaging and rooting work while still utilizing my GS3 as my phone, and then when I have the N6 ready I nandroid backup both phones and then pop the SIM over. I did pick up a nano to micro SIM adapter in case I need to move the SIM back to the GS3.

Well, I guess if no one knows I will give it a try when I get the phone this week and update you all on if it works.

you can do whatever you want with it without ever putting a sim card inti it. the sim card is only for your phone/data provider. and has nothing to do with rooting your phone.

simms22 said:
you can do whatever you want with it without ever putting a sim card inti it. the sim card is only for your phone/data provider. and has nothing to do with rooting your phone.
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Cool. I figured as much but had not heard anyone that had done it. I wasn't sure if there was some technical requirement to have the phone activated before root/recovery took place or anything. All my previous phones came from carriers so they were all activated before leaving the store and before being rooted.

rgraville said:
Cool. I figured as much but had not heard anyone that had done it. I wasn't sure if there was some technical requirement to have the phone activated before root/recovery took place or anything. All my previous phones came from carriers so they were all activated before leaving the store and before being rooted.
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na, ive done that. my sgs4 was never with a sim. my n4 and n5 are without a sim at the moment, the n4 and n5 were rooted before i even booted it the first time.

I did it with my new N6 because I had to wait as well to get new Sim.
Unlocked bootloader, rioted in encrypted. Screwed it up and started all over again. I think I flashed the factory image 5 times that night trying new stuff

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Sim Card Question [Help]

Hello all, I know it might sound weird or impossible, but Im researching if there is a way for me to use multiple sim cards with the G1.
I have a rooted AND unlocked phone, I was wondering if I cound use BOTH T-Mobile's and AT&T Sims AT THE SAME TIME on my phone.
Maybe trough a ROM or a hack, or app.
I know the phone has only 1 physical Sim Card slot, Im looking for a way around shutting the phone, take sim out, place the other sim in, and boot up...
Thanks...
Isn't the battery in the way of taking the SIM card out?
They do have dual sim adapters available, but haven't tried it yet. I need to tho since I got 2 phones. This is just one example
http://www.shopblue.co.uk/phone-dua...ack-dual-sim-adaptor-604555.html?currency=USD
supremeteam256 said:
They do have dual sim adapters available, but haven't tried it yet. I need to tho since I got 2 phones. This is just one example
http://www.shopblue.co.uk/phone-dua...ack-dual-sim-adaptor-604555.html?currency=USD
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I wouldn't even try putting one of those in my phone.
Android does not have a way to run 2 sims in one. Development has been started (by
Google, not by XDA), this is why you would see STK.apk if you look in /system/app but I wouldn't hold my breath for that one, in short... no, you can't run dual simcard set-up. Sorry.

Help! Can tmobile shut down your service if you dont have data plan?

I was on a 5.99 data plan on iphone and switched to the g1. Recently, i noticed my internet was no longer working. Today i took out the battery and sim to clean the phone and when i put it back in, it says "no sim" when there is already a sim card.
I am able to go inside the phone and do everything, but it says no sim. I also made sure i put the sim back in right.
Can t-mobile shut down ur service if you don't have a data plan from them?
How can i bypass this?
Can they, probably. Will they, well you are kind of bypassing the system. Did they, call and find out why your phone says no sim, or go to the store.
Sounds like you broke something while cleaning. I don't think T-mobile has the ability to make your SIM unreadable OTA.
well the sim works fine on my samsung phone
uansari1 said:
Sounds like you broke something while cleaning. I don't think T-mobile has the ability to make your SIM unreadable OTA.
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Your carrier can block your IMEI, they only do that if the phone is stolen or something.
To the OP, your SIM's probably broken. Go to a Tmo store and they should be able to transfer your number to a new one (that will probably take a few days).
if there is somthin wrong with the sim, then how is it that it works on my samsung t819
nevermind, i went online, logged onto tmobile, changed my phone to some cheap one and tried again and it worked, not sure wat was the issue

Verizon Moto X Sim card from unknown source

So I sold my Moto X on swappa and had some issues with the buyer activating the phone. They kept getting a message that said "Sim card from unknown source" with a Verizon sim. I know this happens with sims from other carriers but not from Verizon sims. The phone has a clear IMEI and the account is paid and clear. I recently switched to tmo and thought the porting process was initially the problem. Could it be there is some other hold up on Verizon's end that is preventing the phone from being activated with another account? The phone was working perfectly prior to sending it off and I switched about a day ahead of mailing it out. I don't have access to a verizon nano sim (or account) anymore to test the phone either.
Currently running 4.4 rooted with WP disabled using jcase's method for root and WPNOMORE. Its factory other than that though. I didn't add any user data prior to mailing out and it remains that way. The whole situation has me stumped on what's going on. Do you guys think using RSDlite to go back to a stock 4.4 or 4.2.2 to reroot will fix the issue? I do have access to an ATT nano sim (buddy has a motox) but I don't know anyone with a nano sim from verizon to test the phone. Any help would be great because I'm basically sitting on this phone and have zero use for it.
A new buyer will need to take it to Verizon to get a new SIM. Verizon will do this for free. Even though it seems trivial, they won't put the new SIM onto another account.
Based on my experience with buying a Moto X via Swappa.
Buyer said they tried several new sims and it still had the error. I'm going to see if I can test with my friends iphone5 sim and see if there are any issues. Otherwise I guess no choice but to rsd back to stock or something. Maybe reflash radios.

Softcard + T-Mobile? Anyone with an "Advanced Sim" able to test?

Yes, I'm aware that GWallet exists, but I'm specifically looking for confirmation or lackthereof for Softcard availability. A reddit user has confirmed that it works with ATT, but no word yet on TMO. Thanks!
For ATT (not tmobile, sorry), i cut my sim down to a nano sim and can confirm that softcard installs and loads up but I have not tried to purchase anything yet
Has anyone yet confirmed that Softcard will work on the Nexus 6 with the right SIM?
Without checking with me, the activated my phone using the SIM that came in the box. This is after I specifically asked them to use the one in my previous phone (which could have been cut down from Micro to Nano easily enough). I truly hate my local store, they're great at high pressure misleading sales, but any sort of actual support, pretty worthless.
Anyway, I went to another store and the guy cut down what he claimed was the enhanced SIM, but I never got a chance to look at it to confirm. I'm wondering if it was, because no T-Mo apps have ever auto-installed, and I'm not manually able to install Softcard. (I can't side load it because I traded in my old phone, and don't happen to know someone to copy the APK off of theirs.)
Sooo, I'm not sure if I need to root my phone (wiping everything, ugh) or attempt again to get an enhanced SIM. I figure if someone else was working fine, then I still have the wrong SIM, but if someone else had to sideload, then I have to give in and root.
Zanthexter said:
Has anyone yet confirmed that Softcard will work on the Nexus 6 with the right SIM?
Without checking with me, the activated my phone using the SIM that came in the box. This is after I specifically asked them to use the one in my previous phone (which could have been cut down from Micro to Nano easily enough). I truly hate my local store, they're great at high pressure misleading sales, but any sort of actual support, pretty worthless.
Anyway, I went to another store and the guy cut down what he claimed was the enhanced SIM, but I never got a chance to look at it to confirm. I'm wondering if it was, because no T-Mo apps have ever auto-installed, and I'm not manually able to install Softcard. (I can't side load it because I traded in my old phone, and don't happen to know someone to copy the APK off of theirs.)
Sooo, I'm not sure if I need to root my phone (wiping everything, ugh) or attempt again to get an enhanced SIM. I figure if someone else was working fine, then I still have the wrong SIM, but if someone else had to sideload, then I have to give in and root.
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When I try to install the app via playstore, it says device is not compatible.
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[Q] Nano sim activation through Verizon - insight needed

I'm unsure if my problem has to do with Verizon or if I need to run a factory reset or try other options. Here's my story:
As soon as the phone arrived today, I unlocked, rooted, and flashed TWRP. No sim was in at any point since I didn't have a nano sim to use for it.
I tried cutting my Galaxy Nexus micro sim into a nano sim (apparently this works for some people), but the N6 states "no sim card - no service" so I don't think it worked.
Went to a Verizon store and got a nano sim for 28 cents, but the clerk couldn't activate it or bind it to my account since Verizon doesn't have the N6 IMEI numbers in their database. He told me to call support. Support was actually helpful, somewhat knowledgeable at least, and tried to activate the sim card over the phone.
Apparently the sim is pending activation from the phone, but I'm still getting the "no sim card - no service" errors. Does anyone know if this error means that it can't connect to the network, or if the phone thinks the sim is physically missing? There seems to be only one way to add the sim to the little tray as far as I can tell (gold face up, matched corner).
Has anyone else had similar issues? Should I try reverting (unroot/stock recovery/etc)? I'm not sure what the best approach is to activate the sim as I'm uncertain if the issue is still with Verizon or the N6.
EDIT: Everything is working now. For those of you moving from a phone with a micro sim, all you need to do is:
1. Cut the micro card down to the size of a nano
2. Drop it in your nexus6
3. Make sure wifi is off if you've already run through the setup. This was my mistake!
4. Give it a few minutes and you'll see the mobile icon flash LTE
It may help if you change your mobile network settings to LTE preferred.
Same thing happened to me. Did you try spinning the sim card around? The notched corner didn't look so much like a notch by the time I was done trimming...
Larzzzz82 said:
Same thing happened to me. Did you try spinning the sim card around? The notched corner didn't look so much like a notch by the time I was done trimming...
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Interesting. I trimmed off all the white plastic on the left and right sides so that I can rotate it or even flip it over. Going to try a few permutations... nothing yet. That's all it took eh?
That's all it took for me. Everything works. Data, voice, sms,mms... Everything.:good:
Larzzzz82 said:
That's all it took for me. Everything works. Data, voice, sms,mms... Everything.:good:
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Still no dice. The gold face should be face up, right? I noticed that after a few minutes the error changes to "selected network unavailable", so maybe I'm putting it in right but now its just not being registered.
So far in my experience that message means you need to nuke and repave, including userdata.....YMMV
EDIT: Probably easier to get a new SIM from VZW, thats what I did
cmh714 said:
So far in my experience that message means you need to nuke and repave, including userdata.....YMMV
EDIT: Probably easier to get a new SIM from VZW, thats what I did
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Thanks, I'll try a factory reset. I'm only running stock... can't imagine root or custom recovery would prevent the sim from being recognized. Perhaps when you click "skip" for the sim card part of the setup it can never be reconciled.
Factory reset didn't work either. Really irritating, it looks like the N6 that shipped from the play store came with android 5.0 instead of 5.0.0 or 5.0.1... possibly a development version from months ago?
I flashed the latest 5.0.1 factory images (boot, system, radio), then flashed TWRP, then did a factory reset to wipe data. At the setup prompt when I rebooted, it still says "insert sim card".
I'm not sure what else to try. If the sim card isn't activated I can't tell if that's why it wants me to insert a card, or if it physically thinks it is missing. I may need to order a nano sim to micro sim adapter, then put that in my old gnex and activate it that way, and finally move it over to the N6.
Does anyone have any other ideas or think I may have overlooked something?
mordrukk said:
Factory reset didn't work either. Really irritating, it looks like the N6 that shipped from the play store came with android 5.0 instead of 5.0.0 or 5.0.1... possibly a development version from months ago?
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All of the stock shipped with 5.0 so far. Not 5.0.0. 5.0.1 update notification "should" arrive after initial bootup
Contacts screen side up. It took a while to get onto the network initially. .#.#4636#.#. On the dialer opens a testing menu. There is a drop down menu, middle of the phone info page. Mine is set to lte/cdma auto
Thanks, never knew about hidden dialer apps. I set mine to the same. It's been a few hours and still no connection, so I'm going to assume the fact that the sim isn't activated is what's causing the phone to believe it's not inserted. I really need another phone to test with... if the sim card can be activated or work on another device, and still doesn't work in the N6, then it'd be a hardware problem.
Also good to know 5.0 is standard.
Update: I tried using the cut micro sim again, but this time turned wifi off. Looks like cutting the micro sim worked after all. I'm somewhat recognized by the network, but the sim used no longer maps to my account, so I'm getting a verizon webpage stating "device error" and to call customer support. I think if I can get verizon to revert changes made on my account yesterday back to the gnex with my old sim that this will work.
Moral of the story - cutting micro sim cards will work, but turn off wifi when trying to test your sim!
I'll report back once this is finally resolved. Hopefully this helps someone else.
Got it working - just had to get a new micro sim for my gnex, re-activate that device, then I was able to cut it down to nano size and load it into my nexus6. With wifi off this time, everything worked, and it connected to the network.
I've updated the original post with instructions for anyone else who might be having this problem.

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