Lousy Performance in Games. - Xperia Z3 Compact Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I was trying Asphalt 8 yesterday and found out that the game lags when playing on the highest graphics.
I don't think this should be the case when we have a Adreno 330 along with a Snapdragon 801 ?
Anyone else experiencing this in Asphalt 8 or any other game ?

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[APP] Modern combat 2 and adreno 205

did anyone try this yet?
http://www.gameloft.com/android-games/modern-combat-2-black-pegasus/
its one of the best 3d games i ever played on android, my desire HD is running it blazing fast
however gameloft downgraded the graphics for the qualcomm version, it seems gameloft decided to give priority to the hummingbird devices
compared to the galaxy S version, it lacks reflections on the weapons, character shadows, a blur effect when hit by bullets and maybe more stuff
i don't understand why gameloft keep releasing the same version for both the old snapdragon and 2nd gen snapdragon devices
seeing how crazy fast the frame rate is running on the DHD, its obvious the adreno 205 can do much more
hamdir said:
did anyone try this yet?
http://www.gameloft.com/android-games/modern-combat-2-black-pegasus/
its one of the best 3d games i ever played on android, my desire HD is running it blazing fast
however gameloft downgraded the graphics for the qualcomm version, it seems gameloft decided to give priority to the hummingbird devices
compared to the galaxy S version, it lacks reflections on the weapons, character shadows, a blur effect when hit by bullets and maybe more stuff
i don't understand why gameloft keep releasing the same version for both the old snapdragon and 2nd gen snapdragon devices
seeing how crazy fast the frame rate is running on the DHD, its obvious the adreno 205 can do much more
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i have this game too its great, but gameloft have reasons for that, adreno cant shift half as many polygons as the powervr in the galaxy series, just look at ashpalt 5, even the DHD can only just run it with minimal slowdown, but the galaxy version looks amazing with reflections on the cars and more realistic tarmac, and powervr runs it with no hickups at all. i like my DHD though, if i wanted to play games that badly, id just fire up my xbox
AndroHero said:
i have this game too its great, but gameloft have reasons for that, adreno cant shift half as many polygons as the powervr in the galaxy series, just look at ashpalt 5, even the DHD can only just run it with minimal slowdown, but the galaxy version looks amazing with reflections on the cars and more realistic tarmac, and powervr runs it with no hickups at all. i like my DHD though, if i wanted to play games that badly, id just fire up my xbox
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i dont agree about asphalt 5 the dhd runs all gameloft games at very high frame rates, modern combat 2 is running at 60fps without a hiccup once
but i didnt know even asphalt is downgraded in terms of effects
my point is adreno 205 is quit capable and samsung figures about the power vr chipset are not accurate
hamdir said:
i dont agree about asphalt 5 the dhd runs all gameloft games at very high frame rates, modern combat 2 is running at 60fps without a hiccup once
but i didnt know even asphalt is downgraded in terms of effects
my point is adreno 205 is quit capable and samsung figures about the power vr chipset are not accurate
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its not just gameloft games, for example the galaxy s verson of NFS Shift looks amazing compared to the snapdragon version. it doesnt help that devs can't be arsed making better looking games for our version of adreno, they just make a snapdragon version. so ours our dumbed down so the desire and evo can play them
exactly my point, adreno was much improved with model 205, but i don't see gameloft bothering
by the way NFS can be hacked to play in high resolution
someone posted the hack a while ago in this forum, i tried it and it really works
maybe we can mix the galaxy S gameloft games with the snapdragon ones the same way
hamdir said:
exactly my point, adreno was much improved with model 205, but i don't see gameloft bothering
by the way NFS can be hacked to play in high resolution
someone posted the hack a while ago in this forum, i tried it and it really works
maybe we can mix the galaxy S gameloft games with the snapdragon ones the same way
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omap cpu's like the hummingbird use diffrent textures dont they
AndroHero said:
omap cpu's like the hummingbird use diffrent textures dont they
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yes Motorola has their version from gameloft or at least its own SD cache

How has your experience been with 3D Performance & Emulators?

For those of you that already have your handsets, how has your experience been with the performance of 3D games and more intensive emulators? Have there been any games that have shown noticeable choppiness or sluggishness?
Edit: I read in another thread that Real Racing is giving Snapdragon owners problems. Also - I'm a bit curious as to how PPSSPP is treating people.
I have no issues running epsxe with open gl and all setting at maximum. Playing ff9 atm. Emulators shouldn't be an issue.
I just play Asphalt 8 on my Note 4 Exynos and it gets around 60fps at max settings.
I try few 3D games in my Exynos N910C include Real Racing 3 and Death Trigger 2. So far so great. No issue.
Lodix said:
I just play Asphalt 8 on my Note 4 Exynos and it gets around 60fps at max settings.
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Could you post gamebench prints of the performance on some games?
Another gamebench video (exynos)
My device is finally here and it performs great (Exynos - C version)! But it gets warm (just warm no hot) fast and the throttle is very strong!! My Antutu after playing minion rush for 10 minutes was 35k and after a lot of gaming my GFX T-rex on-screen was 8 and off screen was 16. With the phone unused I got 25 and 37 fps for each of them. It is hot here (28C = 82F) but this throttle is too powerful! I'd rather have the phone getting hotter with better performance. Don't know if that would be possible.
The Galaxy Note 4 has a terrible 3d performance, i imagine it is because it is rendering at 1440, my HTC One M7 did far better at 1080. A few games that are jittery messes are anything GTA and also Gangstar, not impressed at all. Perhaps somebody will hack it so that it renders at a lower resolution, because really the snapdragon 805 is not up to intense 3d games at native resolution.
I have better gaming experience in Asphalt 8 with the Note 4 Exynos+1440p than with my Note 3 Qualcomm+1080p.
Lodix said:
I have better gaming experience in Asphalt 8 with the Note 4 Exynos+1440p than with my Note 3 Qualcomm+1080p.
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Yes same for me too. I really impressed with exynos gaming performance asphalt 8 is just 60 fps all the time it was like 30 or something on my quallcom note 3
tmac31 said:
Yes same for me too. I really impressed with exynos gaming performance asphalt 8 is just 60 fps all the time it was like 30 or something on my quallcom note 3
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Yeah, It surprised me. I would like to see some Gamebench of a Qualcomm Note 4.
captainbirdseye86 said:
The Galaxy Note 4 has a terrible 3d performance, i imagine it is because it is rendering at 1440, my HTC One M7 did far better at 1080. A few games that are jittery messes are anything GTA and also Gangstar, not impressed at all. Perhaps somebody will hack it so that it renders at a lower resolution, because really the snapdragon 805 is not up to intense 3d games at native resolution.
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I'm using NOMone Resolution Changer to set display to 1080p to play games. When you change the resolution everything looks wrong (big icons and etc) but the games are actually perfect but less pixels to push so better performance. If you are rooted and mind gaming performance, this is a must have.
Just curious - since this is the one thing that might make me change my mind about not rooting my phone - Does NOMone Resolution Changer know to automatically change the resolution only when a game is specifically opened? Or do you need to change the resolution first - and then start the game?
For the guy saying that GTA is stuttery.. its nothing to do with the resolution. Its all to do with heat and the Samsung DVFS voltage and frequency control.
With DVFS enabled after a few mins of GTA it slows down a little bit and starts to get stuttery because it throttles too easy and underclocks the CPU and GPU by about half.
If your rooted and disable DVFS you get the full GPU and CPU speed in games like GTA vice city and its extremely fluid.
Trinatek said:
Just curious - since this is the one thing that might make me change my mind about not rooting my phone - Does NOMone Resolution Changer know to automatically change the resolution only when a game is specifically opened? Or do you need to change the resolution first - and then start the game?
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Second option unfortunately. If you find an application that does that, please tell me. I didn't look for it though as NOMone is working great and I'm a bit afraid of messing with the resolution too much.
Just got myself an exynos note 4. Very nice phone but aside from a little touchwiz stutter, games such as real racing 3 and clash of clans stutter. My nexus 4 ran them fine. Did a quick antutu benchmark to see whats up and this is what i got without flight mode on. What do you think? Benchmarks say my phone should handle them with ease but thats not the case. Anyone with a solution?
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djunited said:
Just got myself an exynos note 4. Very nice phone but aside from a little touchwiz stutter, games such as real racing 3 and clash of clans stutter. My nexus 4 ran them fine. Did a quick antutu benchmark to see whats up and this is what i got without flight mode on. What do you think? Benchmarks say my phone should handle them with ease but thats not the case. Anyone with a solution?
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Mine can just run them fine. Try a factory reset.
Lodix said:
Mine can just run them fine. Try a factory reset.
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Factory reset on a brand new phone that just got set up?
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Probably some rogue app you got running. Reset like he said or restart. No stutter on this old games so no fix required. Emulators have been good tho getting over 30fps in a few n64 games mupen64 that have tried, dolphin still not the best speed. DraStic was made for the note line. Runs awesome with each game I have.
Has to be coc related. I read a few reviews on the play store from note 4 users who have seen this as well. Much more demanding games are running great so ill just wait on an update.
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[Q] Slow CPU and GPU stuck at 330MHz?

I feel my Z3 Compact performance is no where near the performance at Snapdragon 801 is supposed to give. This phone to date is supposed to be one of the fastest Graphic performers and should be able to play games like Ashphalt 8, NOVA 3, Modern Combat and those mainstream graphical games at 60FPS no problem as i've seen in other phones with Snapdragon 801 like the S5, One PlusOne, HTC One M8 etc but my phone seems to play these games like bout 30-40FPS and when a menu transition happens it's really choppy.
Even though this phone is also 720P and with benchmarks on websites like PhoneArena, GSMArena they have scores on geekbench 3 bout 3K while my one is 2.2K constantly, GFX 2.7 (T-Rex Onscreen) bout 40FPS while my one is like 25FPS. Performance is definitely noticeably slow.
I notice that on CPU-Z app that my GPU frequency never exceeds 330MHz, i wonder if you guys are like this too and also my Governer thing is on Interative if that's normal?
I have conducted these results without Stamina mode or performance restriction on. Nor is it rooted or anything.
LSirzech said:
I feel my Z3 Compact performance is no where near the performance at Snapdragon 801 is supposed to give. This phone to date is supposed to be one of the fastest Graphic performers and should be able to play games like Ashphalt 8, NOVA 3, Modern Combat and those mainstream graphical games at 60FPS no problem as i've seen in other phones with Snapdragon 801 like the S5, One PlusOne, HTC One M8 etc but my phone seems to play these games like bout 30-40FPS and when a menu transition happens it's really choppy.
Even though this phone is also 720P and with benchmarks on websites like PhoneArena, GSMArena they have scores on geekbench 3 bout 3K while my one is 2.2K constantly, GFX 2.7 (T-Rex Onscreen) bout 40FPS while my one is like 25FPS. Performance is definitely noticeably slow.
I notice that on CPU-Z app that my GPU frequency never exceeds 330MHz, i wonder if you guys are like this too and also my Governer thing is on Interative if that's normal?
I have conducted these results without Stamina mode or performance restriction on. Nor is it rooted or anything.
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Disable Stamina and restart. Worked for me
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I have same problem, but not in the benchmarks, my gpu stocks at 330 Mhz while playing games. Actually maximum frequency shown in cpuz is 330! This is weird.

Low fps in games. What's going on?

Hello guys, today i tested my new z3c games performance, i used Gamebench, and results are just strange? : Asphalt 8 is almost unplayable median fps is only 27, same with Dead Trigger 2, Modern Combat 5 27 too ;/. Got lolipop 5.0.2 , comiplation 23.1.A.0.690, Antutu benchmark 46-47k. Maybe i am wrong but i think i should run them atleast 30 stable fps on this SoC ? Im so angry, damn.
OTHERy said:
Hello guys, today i tested my new z3c games performance, i used Gamebench, and results are just strange? : Asphalt 8 is almost unplayable median fps is only 27, same with Dead Trigger 2, Modern Combat 5 27 too ;/. Got lolipop 5.0.2 , comiplation 23.1.A.0.690, Antutu benchmark 46-47k. Maybe i am wrong but i think i should run them atleast 30 stable fps on this SoC ? Im so angry, damn.
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All of them run at full speed on my phone. Antutu score tells me your phone is fine. Reboot your phone and play the games again. If that doesn't work, then factory reset
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What does full speed mean? Can u tell me ur fps?
I don't use any software to measure the fps but they are as smooth as they can be. There are no stutters or lags. And also, mobile games are set at 30 fps as far as i know so 27 isn',t really bad. Although i'd say i get 29-30 fps. No stutters
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Well, nfs most wanted, speedx3d, traffic racer are running at 60+ fps, so it seems u are right about capping at 30 with asphalt 8, i didnt know about it. Is there any possibility to hide system buttons when playing games? Friend of mine got s5, and he doesnt have system buttons when playing nfs mw? Any fix for it?
I encounter with same problem.According to antutu there is no problem.I got 45 46 k but in subway surf or asphalt 8 I see little lags.Especially,presentation of section in asphalt 8 I saw visible lags but in race I couldnt see any problem.After all, I wonder that why there are lags however this phone is such strong
artilherio said:
I encounter with same problem.According to antutu there is no problem.I got 45 46 k but in subway surf or asphalt 8 I see little lags.Especially,presentation of section in asphalt 8 I saw visible lags but in race I couldnt see any problem.After all, I wonder that why there are lags however this phone is such strong
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The UI of Asphalt 8 lags on every phone. But the races should run smoothly. Because i've played A8 on Z Ultra and Z3c. Both had laggy UI until the race but the races were butter smooth
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Game lag

Hello! Am I the only one who experienced lag and bad framrates on games on my p10 vtr-l29?
An example of a game that has bad framrates for me is PUBG.
maybe a reason
ZaKh10 said:
Hello! Am I the only one who experienced lag and bad framerates on games on my p10 vtr-l29?
An example of a game that has bad framerates for me is PUBG.
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You may see the same problem but you have to take into account the following:
1. the GPU is a Mali G71MP8 (has 8 pipelines) at 600MHz (with a boost of 900MHz)
2. Games like PUBG are very new and at the same time very poorly optimized as you can see since they must adapt everything to that GPU and other models you still have to give them time.
3. The MP8 model is not the most powerful of Mali in MHz, unlike other mobiles compared to the few models of the Adreno GPU.
PD: Remember there is only one Adreno 530, mali have G71MP2,8,12,20.
and Huawei is not that good of pushing their devices to games....for now.
PUBG is not optimized for some GPUs, I played it myself with my P10 with medium graphics and high framerate, not very smooth but playable. It's worth it to wait for them to optimize it

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