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Strange reaction on teflon coating

Anyone else got this on their phone?
It started last night and seems to have got progressively worse.
I think it's time to get it in for a repair and get the leaking left hand bottom corner of my screen done at the same time.

http://mobile.engadget.com/2010/04/02/nexus-one-losing-finish-innocence/

Is it from the heat? Moisture? Weird! Hope mine doesn't do that!

SiNJiN76 said:
Is it from the heat? Moisture? Weird! Hope mine doesn't do that!
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I'm not sure, I can only say we have been on holiday this week and it has been TORRENTIAL rain all week.
But my phone hasn't got that wet at all?!?!?
Also when we returned to our apartment each night it was VERY VERY warm in there. I'm not sure if that's caused the issue or not.
Anyway, I'll ring HTC tomorrow.

Holy-
That scares me just looking at that! Mine is almost always in a case. :\

andythefan said:
Holy-
That scares me just looking at that! Mine is almost always in a case. :\
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Same here, only time I take off my case is to change battery's

I was doing a clutch replacement on my car last Feb and I accidentally got brake cleaner on the back of my G1. If anyone felt or has/had a G1 will know the back has a rubber feel to it almost like the Nexus One. The cleaner was only on for a few seconds and the result was exactly what your picture is showing. It caused it to wrinkle and bubble up. I peeled it away and ended up buying a new cover.

yep, brake cleaner'll do that lol
had you tried to clean the trackball at some point recently?
if so, what did you use so i dont use it lol

I noticed a small raised area on my bottom cover that could be the start of something similar. Did you get a reply from HTC?

pongalong said:
I noticed a small raised area on my bottom cover that could be the start of something similar. Did you get a reply from HTC?
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Can you post a pic or two?

pongalong said:
I noticed a small raised area on my bottom cover that could be the start of something similar. Did you get a reply from HTC?
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I haven'y been able to contact them yet due to the Easter break.
I will be doing it first thing Tuesday.
Hopefully they'll repair it under warranty because to be honest I ave no idea whats happened.

Okay.
Rung HTC today.
Phone is being collected tomorrow and they did not ask if it was unlocked.
They also didn't ask for a CC to charge against.
Fingers crossed.

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Can you post a pic or two?
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I tried taking a photo of it, but it's near impossible to capture. I probably wouldn't have noticed if I didn't look for it after reading the OPs post. If it progresses I'll take one and contact HTC. Right now if I run my fingernail lightly across the front where the bottom half meets the metal frame I can feel a bump on the "teflon." Also when held up to the light and viewed at the proper angle I can see a very small line or crack.
If I posted the photos I doubt many people would be able to see it. Hopefully it stays this way and if it gets worse HTC will fix it.

Update:
Phone was collected Wednesday at 3:30pm.
They rung today to say it had been repaired and had passed final test and will be shipped either today or monday!
Not a bad service at all.
I'm presuming because of the speed they will send a replacement.

And this is why I advise using a skin protector
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=618006

I would actually like to z brake cleaner go up against 1 of those skins

Paul22000 said:
And this is why I advise using a skin protector
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=618006
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Disagree, it was just my stupidity.
I had a G1 for 18 months and a HTC Hero afterwards, they were both like new when I sold them.

disgustip8ted said:
I would actually like to z brake cleaner go up against 1 of those skins
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Supposedly it's military grade stuff so I bet it wouldn't even affect it. At the very least, I guarantee the effects of what the OP posted would at least be minimized greatly, if not prevented entirely.
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Supposedly it's military grade stuff so I bet it wouldn't even affect it. At the very least, I guarantee the effects of what the OP posted would at least be minimized greatly, if not prevented entirely.
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LOL! Brake fluid and brake cleaner can look at plastic and it will dissolve. I don't care what grade it is, I promise you it will not hold up to it.

I tried taking some photos under sunlight to capture what could be the start of this problem. They are more difficult to see in the photos than with the eye, so I'm not entirely crazy about this and I'm posting these photos in case this can be used as an early warning sign of a more serious problem for other users. As I mentioned before I probably wouldn't have noticed for quite some time if I hadn't read the OPs post. The darkened spot circled in the photos is raised and can be felt when running my finger along it. When viewed at the proper angle there also appears to be a small crease/crack on the bump.
I had kept my phone in a full phantomskinz before and have since moved to a flexible TPU style case, so there's very little chance of me having bumped it somewhere.
Possible reasons this could be happening? Heat? Moisture? I'm really not sure, but if it turns into a problem like the OPs it could be trouble. Anyone think I should just contact HTC or should I wait and see what becomes of it?

dock/nightstand for my dinc

I made this dock/nightstand for my droid incredible. I would show you how good it looks with the phone in it, but I used my phone to take the picture.
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LOL it kinda looks like monument on Droid cemetery. RIP DInc
Great job regardless, a lot of attention to details. But picture is epic fail - get another phone/camera and take a picture with phone in.

Really?
I shared what I had built as it was at the moment. Isn't that what this developer's forum is all about? Perhaps you can help us all out and run over to every thread where someone has posted a beta, alpha, or nightly and let them know that they have an epic fail for not making sure it was not needing any more development before they posted it.

dltccf said:
I shared what I had built as it was at the moment. Isn't that what this developer's forum is all about? Perhaps you can help us all out and run over to every thread where someone has posted a beta, alpha, or nightly and let them know that they have an epic fail for not making sure it was not needing any more development before they posted it.
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they do not represent xda in any way.
i like how it looks but what about heat? does it get hot in there? looks sick. reminds me of my wood shop days.

dltccf said:
I shared what I had built as it was at the moment. Isn't that what this developer's forum is all about? Perhaps you can help us all out and run over to every thread where someone has posted a beta, alpha, or nightly and let them know that they have an epic fail for not making sure it was not needing any more development before they posted it.
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ouch...... lol

synisterwolf said:
they do not represent xda in any way.
i like how it looks but what about heat? does it get hot in there? looks sick. reminds me of my wood shop days.
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So far heat is OK. although I haven't tried watching a movie on it in the dock yet.

dltccf said:
So far heat is OK. although I haven't tried watching a movie on it in the dock yet.
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It would be interesting to hear how hot it gets. even in my old otter box case the thing use to cook. i can imagine wood. but never the less it looks awesome. great work.

Nice job man! Love the black carved out Androids!

That's pretty awesome. I'd be too afraid of the heat though. Still great build nonetheless.

Good job on the dock. It's pretty cool...you even got a little notch for the camera on the droid inc.

I wish I was half as creative and handy as you. Very nice job!

That's pretty cool! I actually cruised over here to see if anyone made their own dock recently.

finally
Finally got around to taking a picture of the dock with the phone in it. The display is the "night display" from Gentle Alarm. In the background, you can even see part of the landline and the alarm clock made not necessary by the phone in the dock.

wow over 1600 views
I just looked at this thread and realized over 1,600 people have looked at my dock. Wow. I have been using it for several months as an alarm clock in the dock every night and so far no heat issues. It has been working out very well. After seeing how many people were interested in a dock I think I should have offered to make and sell them. I still could, but I imagine the market for a new dock for this old phone is dwindling.

I would buy one. Red androids please.

Comicazy said:
I would buy one. Red androids please.
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Ok, if you want one I can make one. I wouldn't expect to be making very many of these so each one could be customized. That one was made in pine which I stained with a pecan stain. I have since come across some walnut boards. I could make one in walnut which would look much better than pine. If you want some other type of wood I can see about getting some. I used a micro to standard USB cable which allows me to either plug it into the computer or into the standard dinc AC adapter. I can also change the design with more or less androids, your name or some completely different design, even a square or sculpted top rather than a round one.
If something in the neighborhood of 50 bucks is in your price range let me know along with any specifics of the design you want.
And, of course, for everyone elses' enjoyment I can post a picture here when it is done.

How do you have your usb plug secured in there? I've been trying to come up with a design for one of my own since I always use my phone as my alarm clock, but I've not come up with a good way to get the plug to stay in place so that the phone can be plugged in easily.

"Haus" said:
How do you have your usb plug secured in there? I've been trying to come up with a design for one of my own since I always use my phone as my alarm clock, but I've not come up with a good way to get the plug to stay in place so that the phone can be plugged in easily.
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I placed the phone in the holder then I plugged the usb connector into it through the other hole I had cut for it. Then I put some gorilla glue around the plastic part of the plug being careful to keep it away from the end. Gorilla glue expands and fills the space around the plug. I lightly clamped the phone in place overnight, but a couple hours should be enough, and then when I removed the clamp, the plug is secured in place exactly where it needs to be.

Cool idea, looks great!

JoeSchmoe007 said:
LOL it kinda looks like monument on Droid cemetery. RIP DInc
Great job regardless, a lot of attention to details. But picture is epic fail - get another phone/camera and take a picture with phone in.
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Aha, I had that same thought as well!

Battery Swelling Causing Screen to Bow Out

So the other day I noticed my screen was starting to get flush with the sides of my case. Upon closer inspection, I noticed my screen was starting to bow out!
Recently, I had been having some really strange battery life where the phone would die at around 50% or so, and when I would reboot the phone, it would read at about 5-10%. So I'm assuming the battery is defective, and it's beginning to expand and become bloated.
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Has anybody else had this issue? I haven't found many people so far with this issue. This is going to be my second exchange to T-Mobile; one more and I'm going to try a different device...

Don't charge it. Take a backup. Switch it off and send it back.
You really don't want the battery to vent and possibly have thermal runaway. Lithium batteries can fail quite spectacularly.
If you must charge it, put it far away from anything flammable and have a bucket of water ready.

Thanks... didn't realize the dangers could be that catastrophic...

Vent with flames come to mind, return it to HTC
In the mean time keep it somewhere always from flammable materials, in case it goes bang, i kid you not!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
John.

MinimalistChris said:
So the other day I noticed my screen was starting to get flush with the sides of my case. Upon closer inspection, I noticed my screen was starting to bow out!
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Beautiful pics, they look very artistic but on a serious note, did you overclock, fastcharge, use a different charger or do anything with your phone out of the ordinary?

godutch said:
Beautiful pics, they look very artistic but on a serious note, did you overclock, fastcharge, use a different charger or do anything with your phone out of the ordinary?
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Haha, thanks. The only thing I've done is run the GE ROM from Bigxie with the bundled Tbalden kernel. I don't mess with overclocking, or any other enhancements since the phone works for me in every way. Just unlucky I guess!

MinimalistChris said:
Haha, thanks. The only thing I've done is GE ROM from Bigxie with thotherwisee bundled Tbalden kernel. I don't mess with overclocking, or any other enhancements since the phone works for me in every way. Just unlucky I guess!
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Okay don't forget to first run your stock ruu and then lock your bootloader, not have it say relocked otherwise they will surely deny you warranty.

Well HTC are using the new lithium polymer batteries, they blow up and set on fire, just be carefull with charging it!
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MinimalistChris said:
So the other day I noticed my screen was starting to get flush with the sides of my case. Upon closer inspection, I noticed my screen was starting to bow out!
Recently, I had been having some really strange battery life where the phone would die at around 50% or so, and when I would reboot the phone, it would read at about 5-10%. So I'm assuming the battery is defective, and it's beginning to expand and become bloated.
Has anybody else had this issue? I haven't found many people so far with this issue. This is going to be my second exchange to T-Mobile; one more and I'm going to try a different device...
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I was having the same battery issue with it dieing at 40 50% not the bloating though. I sent it to HTC repair in Houston and they replaced the motherboard and battery, works great now. Took about a week.
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Atrix27 said:
I was having the same battery issue with it dieing at 40 50% not the bloating though. I sent it to HTC repair in Houston and they replaced the motherboard and battery, works great now. Took about a week.
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Well my 1 yr old HTC One got the same issue..im also having weird battery issue lately.from 100 to 60-50 % it just dies.Today I left my charger plug-in on my phone for the whole night, to my surprise my HTC battery swell , overheated tearing the phone apart,,im lucky it didnt explode or burn..I send it to local HTC care but lucky me im out of warranty and they told me that i will shoulder all the cost to repair it..I dont know if I will pay it and bring back my beloved HTC One to life or better buy a new phone with removable battery?/
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Ive seen a lipo battery go off, I used to fly pro radio controlled helicopters which also run on lipo batteries and watched a poor mans £1000 heli go up in flames and destroyed to pieces, theres no blowing it out when they go, its an acid fire, if your sending it through the post I would first get a lipo safe charge bag and put it in there before posting, it could go off at anytime once it starts swelling.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9mcNvOGKtI

WoW!!!!
I have an HTC one M7
& about a month ago it start pop out just the screen on one side of the phone
it's been Swelling real slow but after reading everything you all have posted I'm tripping out
you all are talking about flames & acid fire
what if this phone does that when I have it to my face or in my lap, I'm sure that that will not end well
I did not think it was the battery until i started looking for what can make my screen pop out.
good thing I found this post or I would not have known about the flames & acid fire.
So thank you all for posting this info & saving my face/balls from acid fire

E-TARD_The_LifeCaster said:
I have an HTC one M7
& about a month ago it start pop out just the screen on one side of the phone
it's been Swelling real slow but after reading everything you all have posted I'm tripping out
you all are talking about flames & acid fire
what if this phone does that when I have it to my face or in my lap, I'm sure that that will not end well
I did not think it was the battery until i started looking for what can make my screen pop out.
good thing I found this post or I would not have known about the flames & acid fire.
So thank you all for posting this info & saving my face/balls from acid fire
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Personally, if my phone would do this, I wouldn't even bring it inside my home again. Unstable Li-ion batteries are very likely to cause a fire eventually.

[Q] I found a TV on a dirt road today.

I went up hiking with a friend in the Colorado mountains today. We went wayyyy up a small dirt trail just wide enough for one car, it was great!
About 30 minutes into the drive along this dirt trail, we saw something black 10ft off the road, which ended up being a 46 inch Flat Screen Samsung TV, in perfect physical condition, other than it looks like it's been there several days and we knew it rained the last few nights.. but I took it home anyways!
Found a cable to plug it in, and used my Note 4 as a remote, and it turned on! Made the powering-on little tune and everything! But.. the screen has MAJOR water damage, to the point where it's unusable. It can't be used in the condition it's in now.
So.. if you were in my position, what would you do?
Look for a replacement panel?
Call Samsung?
Set up a warranty with some company somehow?
Replace the Screen, if I can find a screen replacement?
Throw it out? Sell the working parts?
What would you do if you were in my exact position?
It's a Samsung ln46c630

2PMintheAM said:
I went up hiking with a friend in the Colorado mountains today. We went wayyyy up a small dirt trail just wide enough for one car, it was great!
About 30 minutes into the drive along this dirt trail, we saw something black 10ft off the road, which ended up being a 46 inch Flat Screen Samsung TV, in perfect physical condition, other than it looks like it's been there several days and we knew it rained the last few nights.. but I took it home anyways!
Found a cable to plug it in, and used my Note 4 as a remote, and it turned on! Made the powering-on little tune and everything! But.. the screen has MAJOR water damage, to the point where it's unusable. It can't be used in the condition it's in now.
So.. if you were in my position, what would you do?
Look for a replacement panel?
Call Samsung?
Set up a warranty with some company somehow?
Replace the Screen, if I can find a screen replacement?
Throw it out? Sell the working parts?
What would you do if you were in my exact position?
It's a Samsung ln46c630
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Seriously? Where were you hiking at?

I had a TV go out like this.
If you can still see some cool color shapes when you turn it on, I would put it on its back on top of a mount of some sort, and use it as a coffee table. Plugged in it looks pretty cool actually.

orangekid said:
I had a TV go out like this.
If you can still see some cool color shapes when you turn it on, I would put it on its back on top of a mount of some sort, and use it as a coffee table. Plugged in it looks pretty cool actually.
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I like your thinking.
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mark manning said:
Seriously? Where were you hiking at?
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Went up with a friend to Sedalia to explore the area and came across Rampart Range Road, followed it down for about 30-40 minutes before we finally decided it would never end! Got out of the car and just walked around, the views are spectacular if you climb up a bit! Took a bunch of pictures with my Note 4! There couldn't have been a more interesting place to find a flat screen Samsung TV! haha.
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Went up with a friend to Sedalia to explore the area and came across Rampart Range Road, followed it down for about 30-40 minutes before we finally decided it would never end! Got out of the car and just walked around, the views are spectacular if you climb up a bit! Took a bunch of pictures with my Note 4! There couldn't have been a more interesting place to find a flat screen Samsung TV! haha.
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I love that area. Back when I was a wee little lad, my grandfather used to take me up there for hunting squirrels and deer. Someday stop in at buds bar in Sedalia, that place is on some list for their burgers. I have to admit, they're pretty dang good too!

2PMintheAM said:
the screen has MAJOR water damage, to the point where it's unusable. It can't be used in the condition it's in now.
So.. if you were in my position, what would you do?
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Lots of rice to suck out all water residue?

KAMiKAZOW said:
Lots of rice to suck out all water residue?
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About 3-4 tonnes at a rough guess
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Jesse72 said:
About 3-4 tonnes at a rough guess
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If it works for cell phones, why not for TVs? (And no, not 3–4 tonnes)

Depends what the internals are like

CPU temp, normal but... It feels hot!

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Hey gents. How are you guys today? I'm having a slight issue with my nexus 6 and I'm not really sure if it really is an issue.
It just feels hot with minimal use. So I installed a temperature app and compared it to the exact same use as my note 4, which has nearly identical specifications. I got the same results. But the nexus feels like it gets hotter a lot faster. Sometimes it kind of bothers my hand just because it's summer time here in Spain and it's already hot enough outside.
The first time I launched it, I saw that it said my keyboard was causing the heat. Then I changed it to the default google keyboard and the same thing... So that's why there are two keyboards listed.
What do you guys think??? What temperatures do you guys get? I'm at 40-42 idle and 52-55 with light usage like whatsapp or line.
Thanks.
Kent.
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Hey gents. How are you guys today? I'm having a slight issue with my nexus 6 and I'm not really sure if it really is an issue.
It just feels hot with minimal use. So I installed a temperature app and compared it to the exact same use as my note 4, which has nearly identical specifications. I got the same results. But the nexus feels like it gets hotter a lot faster. Sometimes it kind of bothers my hand just because it's summer time here in Spain and it's already hot enough outside.
The first time I launched it, I saw that it said my keyboard was causing the heat. Then I changed it to the default google keyboard and the same thing... So that's why there are two keyboards listed.
What do you guys think??? What temperatures do you guys get? I'm at 40-42 idle and 52-55 with light usage like whatsapp or line.
Thanks.
Kent.
Sent from my Nexus 6 using Tapatalk
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your cpu temps are normal, and on the cool side. feel is never an accurate way to measure temps, as feel doesnt measure temps, it measures the difference with what you are feelung with. heres an experiment. get 3 cups of water, a cool xup, a hot cup, and a room temp cup. stick ine hand into the cool wayer, and the other in the hot water. after about 2 minutes, take them out and put them both in the room temp water. the hand that was in the cool water will feel warm, the hand that was in the hot water will feel cool. and yet they are in same temp water.
btw, your phone can hit 100C(212F) before itll reboot to cool off.

simms22 said:
your cpu temps are normal, and on the cool side. feel is never an accurate way to measure temps, as feel doesnt measure temps, it measures the difference with what you are feelung with. heres an experiment. get 3 cups of water, a cool xup, a hot cup, and a room temp cup. stick ine hand into the cool wayer, and the other in the hot water. after about 2 minutes, take them out and put them both in the room temp water. the hand that was in the cool water will feel warm, the hand that was in the hot water will feel cool. and yet they are in same temp water.
btw, your phone can hit 100C(212F) before itll reboot to cool off.
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Thanks. Maybe the heat could be from the CPU being located where I'm holding my phone? Would you happen to know if it is located on the lower half?
Sent from my Nexus 6 using Tapatalk

zkyevolved said:
Thanks. Maybe the heat could be from the CPU being located where I'm holding my phone? Would you happen to know if it is located on the lower half?
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Don't think so. Battery at the bottom and CPU about 3/4 of the way up

Hmm. Indeed interesting... Because I know the nexus 6 feels hotter than my note 4. Oh well, I'm glad the temps are good. I guess it could just be the screen warming up. I know Samsung phones have superior displays compared to the nexus 6. I see it when I have them side by side... But sorry Samsung, a superior display isn't going to keep me on your laggy device... I love this phone! ???
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Feel is subjective but I don't think you should simply ignore this.
My N6 never feels warm unless I am hammering it (e.g. playing graphics intensive games) or charging it. I live in Yorkshire where the sun shines about a quarter as much as in most of Spain so a hand warmer might be welcome sometimes but if your phone feels uncomfortably warm, something is probably wrong - it shouldn't.

zkyevolved said:
Thanks. Maybe the heat could be from the CPU being located where I'm holding my phone? Would you happen to know if it is located on the lower half?
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The cpu is located in the middle on the left beneath the internal hard drive, scource iFixit https://nl.ifixit.com/Teardown/Nexus+6+Teardown/32877 stap 11.

And even then it may be the GPU heating up in intensive games besides the CPU ...