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(Request) Samsung galaxy note multi-window feature port

Any chance some enterprising dev could get this running on our nexus 7's
http://phandroid.com/2012/10/05/sam...te-brings-awesome-multi-window-feature-video/http://phandroid.com/2012/10/05/sam...te-brings-awesome-multi-window-feature-video/
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That would be cool if they could, but I'm guessing this is deeply integrated into Touch wiz.
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Zaphod-Beeblebrox said:
Umm .. *cough* *cough* Cornerstone.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qX8w3UZIjkc
It's open source. Roman made an ICS/AOKP/Cornerstone build a long time ago ... felt it was too buggy to continue.
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AOKP got this request recently.
Seems a Cornerstone build would be the only way out...which is unlikely.

I'm fully aware this would probably be quite difficult to port, and likely quite time consuming.
Having said that, I also want this. It makes so much more sense on a 7 inch tablet then a 5 inch whatever.

This works with a handful of Google Apps, no other apps. I don't see the point.

khaytsus said:
This works with a handful of Google Apps, no other apps. I don't see the point.
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Running 2 apps at the same time. Seems like a great idea to me. It supports a limited amount of apps, but unlike Galaxy Note 10.1, you could probably hack in other apps to work.

khaytsus said:
This works with a handful of Google Apps, no other apps. I don't see the point.
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Yes, but the Galaxy Note 2 supports all apps in multi-window mode...

This would be *nice* to have but I don't know how much easier it would be then to just multitasking between 2 apps now and having the apps full screen. I can see some of the benefits like watching a youtube video while chatting on Google Talk. There are some good alternatives such as popup video players and notepads that overlay on top of current app and typically are resizable and movable.
While it makes sense this would be better on a 7" then a 5"... it really would be best on a 10". 7" barely gives me enough breathing room for 1 app. Plus most of the "compatible apps" are simple things like a calculator and notes

Well it seems VERY useful to me.
It's better than popup apps in my opinion - more app options.

Overscreen browser is a great alternative for now
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No, it's not.
This allows multiple apps to run side by side, Overskreen is just the browser. Also, it's not even compatible with Jelly Bean, so no one who owns a Nexus 7 can use it.

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Yes, but the Galaxy Note 2 supports all apps in multi-window mode...
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No, as I said, handful of specific Google apps. Read up on it. Will the list grow? Maybe? I'd have to guess it is a sdk used to support the function, is it worth app dev time to do it and possibly maintain multiple versions of their app?

more then google apps
Not just google apps can do this on the samsung note 10.1 .
samsng snote and lecture app
browser
vidoe player
picture gallery
polaris office
Photo shop (special note version)
I think there a few others that are on the samsung web app store. Samsung sbe adding apps to this.
Now for the bubble burst. The reason they work on the galaxy note is the new QUAD Core cpu and 2 GB Very fast ram .. samsung tried to release a less ram/power version of the 10.1 note with a higer res display. they backed the display down and increased the cpu//ram. this is also to support the WACOM S PEN..
I have been reading alot about the device because mine will be here Monday. So the above if from my reading and research. I can update you more mid next week.. I do not see a need for split windows on a 7 inch screen .. get the overscreen browser and try it.. JUST Does not work for productive work...
Hope this help make it more understandable... too bad samsung did not make the n7 . i give up because of the screen issues sent two of them back and will NOT order a 3rd...

Dude. Overskreen DOES NOT work on Jelly Bean. And it is just one app, vs an entire suite of Google Apps.
Also there's no need for window management.
Nexus 7 has a quad-core processor too, just less RAM - which isn't even a problem, it still can handle side by side apps.
And you're telling some weird stuff here. We are talking about Galaxy Note 2, which allows more apps, and works better. AND it works on a 5 inch screen, so it'll be awesome on a seven inch.
So yeah, please don't come back with your 'research' to tell us that you think that this feature is unnecessary.

i hope sincerely as a dev can make a mod for port this feature in future beacause it's very usefull even if work only with google apps it's better ,
anyone know if a moded youtube apps existing for play a video on background because i search since 3 month but not find ?
thx

I don't think there is one, sadly. Android doesn't support true multitasking

While i would love to have or port this it simply isnt possible, it requires a lot of changing to the frameworks and it would be hard to decompile all of samsungs sources and extract it.

SilverHedgehog said:
I don't think there is one, sadly. Android doesn't support true multitasking
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Stock android not, but there are a few roms with cornerstone, i think mainly on 10 inch tablets.

Web os did this kinda on a dual core wish android would absorb that multitasking feature right now running multiple apps kinda is a hit and miss
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Nexus 7 native apps... How many?

Hi, Google playstore does not separate tablet apps from phone apps. How many tablet apps are there? I am afraid of buying android tablets for fear of apps that will just be scaled versions to fit on Android tablets.
Edit. Please delete thread. Transfered question in themes and apps section.
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I would just buy an iPad, as clearly you believe everything that Apple and their media partners tell you about Android. Their fantasy stories about fragmentation are just that - fantasy.
If you are interested in the REALITY, then let me explain. Yes it's true most Android apps have a single application that supports smartphones and tablets, but there is MUCH more to the story than that. Modern Android development is done using what is known as fragments, and it allows your application to have the same business logic, but different visual layouts depending on screen size and orientation.
The upside (the one that nobody mentions), is that you buy the application once, and it works on all your Android devices....
Yes there are some apps that are just big smartphone apps, and these are the ones that Apple always roll out, but it's a misleading picture, most of the big name apps have Android tablet layouts, or in some cases dedicated apps.

The only thing that matters is the few app you might want to use.
Out of the hundreds of apps on the store most of us only use a few.Having a 1000 silly kid game apps out there does not mean anything if you never use one.I would check to see if the apps you want work good on a tablet.If they do then to heck with the whole how many apple has verses android thing.:laugh:

Rumor has it...

The possibility of a Samsung / Google Wear watch may be announced during Google I/O. How does this make you feel about your gear? GO!
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The possibility of a Samsung / Google Wear watch may be announced during Google I/O. How does this make you feel about your gear? GO!
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I'm hoping that if Samsung does release an Android Wear watch, that it is of similar hardware as our Gear 2s and some dev smarter than me can port the OS to ours. Otherwise, I may be upset since I just bought mine 2 weeks ago. That is of course depending on the features of the rumored watch.

If it's all of the "wear" functionality, I'm not gonna be happy. I got my gear 2 neo just over a month ago which means I can't return it...
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I'm selling my gear 2 for a gear wear (or any good android wear watch) the second it hits the market. Im not ready to live thru tizens maturity for wearables. Until now i've been disappointed with the app selection and notifications. Any android app is a few lines of code away from being an android wearable app and that means a lot to an ecosystem that has a lot of added value with already a huge community behind it

More than likely I'll sell the gear and get one of these android wear watches. I don't know yet, we'll see next week.
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I managed to return mine on day 26 !!!
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The Neo wasn't that expensive after the recent sales so even if I ditch for AW, it won't be too much of a loss. I knew Android Wear was coming, yet kept the Neo as I'm hoping the awesome potential of the hardware can be unlocked eventually. I don't get the comments like "I'll be pissed, because I just got my Gear" - AW was announced awhile ago with expectation that devices will be dropping this summer - it shouldn't be a surprise to you guys.
AW will most likely have more Dev support and more apps. The only thing is I don't need -all- the apps, just specific ones to get what usage out of a smartwatch I want.
I'm encouraged as some of the stuff I have been requesting from Devs are being fulfilled. Maybe we get lucky and AW can get ported to this hardware (doubtful). If AW can't get ported to Neo, I hope Samsung announces an AW unit that has the IR blaster like the Neo- I'm open to trading to that. To my knowledge no other AW announced has the IR blaster, and I kind of want that.

It will be interesting to see what is announced. Just got my Gear 2 last week, and I love it, so I'm not looking to buy anything new anytime soon.

rEVOLVE said:
The Neo wasn't that expensive after the recent sales so even if I ditch for AW, it won't be too much of a loss. I knew Android Wear was coming, yet kept the Neo as I'm hoping the awesome potential of the hardware can be unlocked eventually. I don't get the comments like "I'll be pissed, because I just got my Gear" - AW was announced awhile ago with expectation that devices will be dropping this summer - it shouldn't be a surprise to you guys.
AW will most likely have more Dev support and more apps. The only thing is I don't need -all- the apps, just specific ones to get what usage out of a smartwatch I want.
I'm encouraged as some of the stuff I have been requesting from Devs are being fulfilled. Maybe we get lucky and AW can get ported to this hardware (doubtful). If AW can't get ported to Neo, I hope Samsung announces an AW unit that has the IR blaster like the Neo- I'm open to trading to that. To my knowledge no other AW announced has the IR blaster, and I kind of want that.
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Turn your flame blower off. Everyone here knows about Wear, and knows what they currently have, as well as what may be to come. The question was not to agitate, but to gain perspective...
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Best move for Samsung at this point it to ditch Tizen and work on converting the Galaxy Gear watches to Android Wear. This isn't a war they can win. This is very reminiscent to the HP Touchpad problem.
HP faced STRONG criticism when the Touch Pad failed similarly. HP didn't support a HP-OS conversion to Android and Cyanogen had to come to the rescue.

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Turn your flame blower off. Everyone here knows about Wear, and knows what they currently have, as well as what may be to come. The question was not to agitate, but to gain perspective...
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Who's flaming? I was just offering my opinion which I thought you were asking for input. Since you're so sensitive about it I won't bother continuing then, what was the point at all? sheesh.

mitch27 said:
Best move for Samsung at this point it to ditch Tizen and work on converting the Galaxy Gear watches to Android Wear. This isn't a war they can win. This is very reminiscent to the HP Touchpad problem.
HP faced STRONG criticism when the Touch Pad failed similarly. HP didn't support a HP-OS conversion to Android and Cyanogen had to come to the rescue.
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There is one major difference, Tizen has a lot of MAJOR players involved that will do everything in their power to develop it and make it a major android contender. HP was a lone player with their own OS in a world where there already was a lot of other mature OSs. The wearables is the only chance Tizen has to florish because there is nobody in that market yet, if it does it will be on your wrist. I like android wear much more but if done right, Tizen can be something worth it
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Maybe Samsung should find a developer that can TIZEN a sim card, gps, and allow streaming music and video on the watch.

mitch27 said:
Best move for Samsung at this point it to ditch Tizen and work on converting the Galaxy Gear watches to Android Wear. This isn't a war they can win. This is very reminiscent to the HP Touchpad problem.
HP faced STRONG criticism when the Touch Pad failed similarly. HP didn't support a HP-OS conversion to Android and Cyanogen had to come to the rescue.
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What if... IF... Samsung is announcing they're ditching Tizen for Google Wear altogether?! How awesome would THAT be?!
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What if... IF... Samsung is announcing they're ditching Tizen for Google Wear altogether?! How awesome would THAT be?!
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It would be awesome. Samsung has already stated that they are releasing a wear smartwatch, which is most likely a test to see what their customers will go for. Judging by the huge gaping hole in the Tizen app store, I don't blame them. By formally releasing their own Google Wear device, it looks like they have already made their decision as to the future of Tizen on smart watches. At least for now.
http://gadgets.ndtv.com/wearables/n...ar-smartwatch-at-google-io-2014-report-546198

So now that samsung gear live has been announced and is available for order today can we get that os on our neos?
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It seems unclear what the Samsung strategy is, as the new device has no camera or home button.
It sounded like Samsung siding with Google and maybe ditching Tizen.
Hopefully it will be a mix and Gear 2 & Neo users get Google Wear, but knowing Samsung after barely 3 months they may just ditch them.
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jyan_osu said:
So now that samsung gear live has been announced and is available for order today can we get that os on our neos?
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I agree, I expect our Gear watches have very similar hardware to the new Samsung Android Wear device and just maybe now that we have root on this device, we could flash an Android Wear ROM onto them?
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jscsltd said:
I agree, I expect our Gear watches have very similar hardware to the new Samsung Android Wear device and just maybe now that we have root on this device, we could flash an Android Wear ROM onto them?
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In theory yes. I know that me and some other developers are working on creating custom roms and recovery for the gear 2/neo. Its just a matter of time before we can access the recovery. Once that is done we should be able to flash Android Wear on to them. The Live and Neo are almost the same compared to specs. The Gear 2, however, has a camera function that isn't present in Live. Also the IR function would be gone as well.

fogame said:
In theory yes. I know that me and some other developers are working on creating custom roms and recovery for the gear 2/neo. Its just a matter of time before we can access the recovery. Once that is done we should be able to flash Android Wear on to them. The Live and Neo are almost the same compared to specs. The Gear 2, however, has a camera function that isn't present in Live. Also the IR function would be gone as well.
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That's excellent news and I'd be very interested in giving this a go as it's looking like Tizen is 'dead in cradle'!
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Portal and Half-Life 2 on Gear VR

Hello! I was wondering .. Could it be possible to modify the actual Android versions of the games to be played on Gear VR? That would be awesome ..

From what it looks like, it wasn't Valve that ported their Source Engine to Android, it was Nvidia. If that's true, no one would really have too much impetus to build one that works with the Adreno platform. So... Short answer is no, it's not likely to happen. Long answer is that it could happen if Valve saw use in porting an old engine (or using a new engine) and moving the game to a very small subset of users of a not /super/ popular phone.
All of that being said, if someone did put that kind of effort into it, they wouldn't likely do it for free. Currently the Oculus Home/Store on the Gear VR is all free. No payment methods and the Nvidia only version of Half Life 2 is $10 already.

Not a native android version but the next best thing
I know you asked about how to do this with the native android app. I don't think that will ever be possible but with trinus or stream theater you can do it. It works pretty good too after some tweaks. I made a tutorial that might help but since I'm a new user on here I can't post it. Check the gear vr gear vr subreddit for my tutorial.

Be careful using the Gear VR with USB unplugged

I have already had a Gear start failing to connect due to this and is due to the short slack for the connection at the pivot point. Over extensions can result in connectivity issues after just a few times. If you notice more of a lag in connecting or you have to start pushing the connector area to get a connection, the damage is already done. I wonder how many returns Samsung might see due to this? Of course if they would make more effort with Youtube, video and Web apps as example, some of us might not be as compelled to using non Gear methods.

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I have already had a Gear start failing to connect due to this and is due to the short slack for the connection at the pivot point. Over extensions can result in connectivity issues after just a few times. If you notice more of a lag in connecting or you have to start pushing the connector area to get a connection, the damage is already done. I wonder how many returns Samsung might see due to this? Of course if they would make more effort with Youtube, video and Web apps as example, some of us might not be as compelled to using non Gear methods.
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Yup better to freeze the app in titanium backup.

Is there a way to suspend the VR service with a easy app that does not require root?
I have the Note 4 and my Gear VR arrives Thursday.
Would like to check out the Google Cardboard stuff but the videos I have seen using the USB spring loaded connector......eek!
Gravity can be a b!tch expecially if your head is moving about.
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There currently is no app that can do this without root. To use apps out of the Oculus system, I bought a low cost VR set that I linked in a thread comparing VR units. I prefer the image being a little further back than my Note 4 Gear VR, so it is fun to try other apps and NOT wait for Oculus to allow certain apps (if ever). I would have preferred a less locked down Oculus system, but they are protective of the "experience" and want to also control the content. In their defense, both are for the most part understandable.

To rushless
But....but....but..... this is XDA! Somebody will figure a hack out.
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theshaz said:
To rushless
But....but....but..... this is XDA! Somebody will figure a hack out.
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I am hoping Kingroot gets updated to support the Note 4 on Lollipop since there is an app for that I used Kingroot on my Tab S 8.4 to enable card writes and freeze bloat. Would like to do the same with the Note 4.

Without root, like me and my S6, you can use Package Disabler pro to accomplish this.
Install, open, find app and disable it.
Thats how i play google cardboard on my VR