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Alright y'all, it's time to upgrade the ol' Hero and turn it into the GSII. Bbbuuuttttt I don't want to necessarily pay the full amount, and I'm not due for a full upgrade yet (not till March... poo). I was wondering if anyone knows whether or not Sprint is still stocking refurb'd Hero's? And, if they are not, I'll need to undo all my rooting and return it to stock. This way I could have something else until my upgrade rolls around... I have to reboot at least 3-4x a day. It currently runs CM7 with Collin ph Battery Tweak. Can anyone lend a hand? Thanks much
Sprint stopped stocking the hero over the summer I don't even think radio shack has it anymore
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Kroger Grocery stores sell them for their I-Wireless prepaid cell service(which is by sprint).
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Alright y'all, it's time to upgrade the ol' Hero and turn it into the GSII. Bbbuuuttttt I don't want to necessarily pay the full amount, and I'm not due for a full upgrade yet (not till March... poo). I was wondering if anyone knows whether or not Sprint is still stocking refurb'd Hero's? And, if they are not, I'll need to undo all my rooting and return it to stock. This way I could have something else until my upgrade rolls around... I have to reboot at least 3-4x a day. It currently runs CM7 with Collin ph Battery Tweak. Can anyone lend a hand? Thanks much
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He's actually more interested to see if Assurion still has refurbed Hero's. Send Hero in on TEP and hope for an upgrade. Anyone send there's in lately?
Also, just reflash CM7 (there's probably been two or three upgraded versions since your last flash) and that might solve some of the need to reboot. But really, just tell J she owes you a phone and make her buy you the Touch!
Sprint htc hero at walmart 48.88 with 2yr.
I know cos i was just there lastnight buying gow3. As for sprint or whoever, idk
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jirafabo said:
He's actually more interested to see if Assurion still has refurbed Hero's. Send Hero in on TEP and hope for an upgrade. Anyone send there's in lately?
Also, just reflash CM7 (there's probably been two or three upgraded versions since your last flash) and that might solve some of the need to reboot. But really, just tell J she owes you a phone and make her buy you the Touch![/QUOTE]
lol! Thanks B. She's actually mad that I'm trying to do everything possible from having to buy the damn thing for full price. Is she great or what?! I'll reflash Friday...maybe. Have any plays that day? Maybe we could get together?
And yes, to all others, he's correct that I want to know if they're still refurbing them. I wonder if I could just call and ask?
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Don't know why you couldn't call and ask, not like they are going to track ya down and send an assassin for asking.
I work at Sprint. I want to say no, especially since if you were to send in an HTC Evo 4G to Assurion, you'd get a 3D back (100% sure). But I did have one customer with a Hero come in with his refurb Hero with the plastic still on it and everything and have me transfer his stuff to it.
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I work at Sprint. I want to say no, especially since if you were to send in an HTC Evo 4G to Assurion, you'd get a 3D back (100% sure). But I did have one customer with a Hero come in with his refurb Hero with the plastic still on it and everything and have me transfer his stuff to it.
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I called Assurion yesterday and they couldn't give me an answer as to what phone I'd get in return. Then again, I'd have to pay $100 to get said mystery phone anyway.
IF you go to phoneclaim.com, and fill in your info, before you submit the claim, it tells you what you will get. But you do have to pay $100 this way. If you take it to the Sprint store, and they have to order a replacement phone, you won't know what you get until the tech pulls it out of the envelope. That's how I went from the Evo 4G, to the Evo 3D. But don't be shocked if you get another Hero.
Just took mine into sprint last week. They replaced it with another hero.
They did give me a couple other phones that I could get instead (for free and without using my upgrade... which I've been eligible for for over a year) but I would have to add the $10 data to my plan.
No thanks, took the hero and it rooted and running heroc before I got home.
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That's exactly why I haven't upgraded also! $10 extra! No way. Long live the hero
V's CDMA Hero
It depends on what they have in stock at the moment you order, so it can change by the hour. And on phoneclaim.com you can see what Asurion is offering before you confirm the order. So you can cancel the order if you don't want the phone.
Will the sins of my past haunt me?
I have seen discussions on other forums about how those of us who used Cheesecake to install .893 from the Moto servers will not be able to take advantage of future updates.
I hope Motorola keeps in mind why customers installed .893. I paid $300 for a phone that had significant data connectivity problems. It was frustrating to know that Motorola had a fix available but I could not take advantage of it. I totally understand the need for Motorola to go through a careful quality assurance process, and I agree with it.
As an experience IT professional I read up on how to install the leaked update. I was confident I could do it without bricking my phone. I also read that it may take me off the update path, although I am optimistic this will not be the case. I knew I was installing the update at my own risk. Had I bricked the phone then I would accept the responsibility. I did not.
The leaked update significantly improved my data connectivity. I am thrilled with the phone. I also am looking forward to continuing down the upgrade path. I will be very upset if Motorola deliberately prevents this because I installed there, albeit leaked, update to resolve the known issues that existed with their phone.
I was not trying to get something I did not deserve. I was trying to get what I paid for, a working phone with reliable data connectivity. I use the phone for business and I absolutely require a smart phone with data. Had I not applied the .893 update I would have been forced to revert to my OG Droid. I did not apply this update to get anything more then what I paid for.
The decision is Motorola’s. Although I think it is wrong, Motorola can lock us out from future upgrades. There is not much we can do about it, except not buy Motorola in the future.
I believe Motorola is an awsome company and will make what I believe is the correct decision. If they don’t I suspect there will be a developer that will come up with a work around. Of course this will further push me off the upgrade path.
I would prefer to be completely stock. I do not need to be rooted. I do not want what I did not pay for. However, the only way I could use the phone’s data capability, a requirement for getting email, was to install the update.
This new, 'unable to upgrade unless stock' just adds to the whole bionic disaster. I was in your boat and held off for as long add I could stand it.. My 500 dollar phone was basically a useless paper weight. The data drops were horrid. Most days I had no data and battery pulls were a frequent part of the 'user experience'. I can't remember being this angry over some thing I have bought. After the uptenth release delay I tools myself I wasn't buying it. unfortunately the phone I had was done for, and I gave it a shot. At this point moto would have to do something extraordinary for me to buy anything from them again. I was looking a an Xoom... But decided on a Toshiba thrive. Their customer service is a wee bit better. Hopefully a Dev will come up worth a solution to this and I will be able to have a useable phone for the next year.
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I was in the same boat you're in, but Verizon insisted on sending me out a new phone last week. I will be buying a Galaxy Nexus for full price as soon as it's out. I returned my phone to stock .886 (I know the radio and kernel don't go back) and removed root before I sent my old phone back. I am using the new phone they sent right now. I rooted it to use Titanium Backup, but I sure as heck won't upgrade it again so I can sell it as soon as the Nexus is out and won't have to disclose that I upgraded it
They really have no choice unless they want to replace alot of Bionics.
I will recieve the official updates (including ICS) or I will insist on a replacement phone from Big Red. I'm sure I'm not the only one here. I pay for unlimited data, not occassional data. Not to go off topic, but I use less than 1GB of data a month, I don't feel guilty using the FREE hotspot to tether my Xoom. Contracts are supposed to benefit BOTH parties.
The .893 update might very well be the official update. I called moto and asked them about this potential problem. They saw that my system was 5.7.893 and told me I was on the latest and most up to date version. I thought they must just be dumb or something. However today someone posted on droidforums that they received an official ota update notification on their phone and after taking it they were on 893. Thus user supposedly called moto as well and they told him the same thing. That 893 was in fact the official update that would be released to everyone. Anyways at this point its all kinda speculation as its hard to know if these are truths and if moto/consumers are just confused. Either way if its turns outs that its not the final update and we can't take the real one from.the kernel mismatch, moto will allow u to send.them the phone and they will flash it for you. We did not void our warranties from applying it manually. They assured me of this. So while it might be an inconvenience, we will not be stuck.
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I'm with the OP. I travel constantly and the bionic is my sole source of internet (I have the hotspot add on). I too applied the 893 update back in early November because I needed the phone to work.
oddly enough I flashed the radio and system back to stock last night and my phone and lte have both been faster.
If i'm unable to ota the offical update i'm going to call American express and claim a warranty issue that I get data drops and that vzw and moto haven't resolved my issue. Generally they credit me for the purchase price of the phone since I paid full retail for the bionic and i'm going to jump ship for the Samsung.
One of the advantages of the amex gold and platinum cards.
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just an fyi:
more and more sources are pointing to 5.7.893 as the OFFICIAL ota update. So all the rumors of what will be the final release, and everyoen trying to get back to stock if they applied this. Or people trying to get to the 5.8.893 or higher versions, etc, seems futile at this point. 2 users buying new bionics report that there phones are on 5.7.893 out of the box. In calling motorola, they confirmed this was the most up to date version. They told me teh same thing as well.
Here's a quote from someone at droid forums:
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For what its worth, I just bought a bionic 2 days ago and its running 5.7.893 right out of the box. No ota update."
So, if you applied the leak that updated your kernel/radio and your system version is 5.7.893, i think you can rest assured that you are UP TO DATE. You will not receive any OTA cause you are already on the latest version. AND, when the next OTA comes out (ice cream sandwich i believe), you Will be able to take it as your system is good.
I need a new phone with a physical keyboard. Was looking at the Droid4, which appears to have the best physical keyboard around, but am a bit of a newb at this stuff. My old HTC Dream (G1) is dying, and I need to figure this out sooner then later. Haha
Can it be unlocked to work on Rogers Wireless in Canada?
As of right now, no.
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As of right now, no.
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Thnx. Is it a case of no unlock? Or (lack of knowledge here) no GSM support?
Also, once an android device is rooted, is there an unlock app of some kind? Or?
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Thnx. Is it a case of no unlock? Or (lack of knowledge here) no GSM support?
Also, once an android device is rooted, is there an unlock app of some kind? Or?
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Currently GSM support is disabled in the firmware and AFAIK it will stay that way until Verizon releases an update to enable it.
Was a bit disappointing they do not have the global services available on the Droid 4. If your looking for a device with keyboard right now you may be able to pick up a used Droid 2 Global. I know those work up there as I had one when I was in Canada last year.
All I can say is, damn. I can't believe how messed up the mobile phone industry is. There is a device, I want to use it, so much so that I'm willing to pay the crazy $549.99 pricetag for it. However, they've decided that I'm not allowed to use it on my network. I hope chinese clones step up their game! Heh.
I was contemplating a droid3, however don't want to spend too much since I may want the droid4 once its actually usable.
I was contemplating picking up a motorola flipout for the meantime, cheap and weird looking!
Also, this probably isn't the right place for a question about this, but I'm at a loss as to what the heck unlock codes actually are (are they issued by the carrier? or hardware manufacturer?) and why there are numerous scammy websites selling them. Can anyone recommend a site I can do some reading about this on? About why I'll probably have to pay for one? I may need to know this if I pickup a different used phone.
The SIM Unlock codes are usually given by the carrier to their paid customers. Verizon will give them out if you have had an account in good standing for 6 months if I recall right.
As for sites to get the unlock codes, I cannot make any recommendations due to I have never paid for them. I have however seen on sites like deals extreme unlocker SIMs that go between the phone and the SIM but have no idea if or how well those work.
Also if you buy a used device you may be able to get one that has been SIM unlocked already. The SIM unlock is a one time task, even if the phone gets wiped or reset it will remain SIM unlocked.
I still keep my G1 as a spare. My next step from that was a TouchPro2 - it comes with WindowsMobile, but I'm running XDAndroid on it. It has an excellent keyboard. I think I still like the TP2 keyboard better than my D4's keyboard.
But, the TP2 has the exact same processor as the G1, and only a tiny bit more RAM. It has a much higher screen rez (800x480) but no faster hardware, so it is noticeably slow.
If I were you I'd look at picking up a used Droid3. I was considering the D3 as my next phone from the TP2, but waited instead for the D4 to come out. As it is, I'm finding that Verizon's 4G service is cutting out all the time on me, so it's still better as a 3G phone. And I'm heading off to Europe in a couple weeks, and will have to bring my G1 or my TP2 on the trip anyway.
Curses to Qualcomm, Motorola, and Verizon. Verizon for their stupid policies and selling a phone with full-featured hardware and intentionally crippled software. Motorola for their locked firmware that prevents end-users, who have legitimately paid for and *own* the damn hardware, from installing software on it as they see fit. Qualcomm for preventing end-users (again, who have legitimately paid for and *own* the hardware) from even seeing the specifications so that they can provide their own software.
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All I can say is, damn. I can't believe how messed up the mobile phone industry is. There is a device, I want to use it, so much so that I'm willing to pay the crazy $549.99 pricetag for it. However, they've decided that I'm not allowed to use it on my network. I hope chinese clones step up their game! Heh.
I was contemplating a droid3, however don't want to spend too much since I may want the droid4 once its actually usable.
I was contemplating picking up a motorola flipout for the meantime, cheap and weird looking!
Also, this probably isn't the right place for a question about this, but I'm at a loss as to what the heck unlock codes actually are (are they issued by the carrier? or hardware manufacturer?) and why there are numerous scammy websites selling them. Can anyone recommend a site I can do some reading about this on? About why I'll probably have to pay for one? I may need to know this if I pickup a different used phone.
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Bell sells the Motorola XT860, I'm currently using it unlocked on Rogers without a hitch. The only issue, I'm not sure if this phone will get official ICS support... The devs are hacking away at getting all of the cool ICS features up and running though
You can probably find an XT860 on Kijiji, Craigslist or even eBay for a lot cheaper than the full Bell price... heck they were giving them away on 3 year contracts during xmas. You might want to check out the Droid3 forums in the meantime to get some more info on XT860
Fwiw, i'm in Ireland now and popped an Irish SIM into the phone. Interestingly enough, you can swap the SIM while the phone is powered on, in Airplane mode. It still didn't work, but the phone didn't complain about any SIM lock. But when I rebooted the phone, it complained then.
There are properties in /system/build.prop for enabling world-mode. I turned these on, but looking at the radio logcat, it seems that our current libril-xxx.so just doesn't support any GSM commands.
The interesting thing is that the Motorola Atrix has the same Qualcomm MDM6600 radio modem as this phone. I'm going to look for an Atrix ROM and see if I can kang some libril files from there to see if I can get any further. (Btw, I wrote the multimode RIL for the XDAndroid ROM; this sort of investigation is my specialty...)
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I hope they hurry with this. I want this phone now. Its ridiculous that users outside USA cannot use this phone.
Bump, any development?
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Bump, any development?
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Look at the thread titled "Droid 4 for Hong Konger" in this forum for instructions on how to unlock GSM capability. This only came about a few days ago.
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Look at the thread titled "Droid 4 for Hong Konger" in this forum for instructions on how to unlock GSM capability. This only came about a few days ago.
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And it's still not stable from what I've read...
This phone is too early to jump into for me. I'll stick to my 4G Slide for now and check back on this device in a few months. Maybe development will pick up by then and they'll have the GSM thing sorted out
Bumping this again. Any news?
I'm in the same situation as OP. Need to upgrade phone (from a Desire Z) and want something with physical keyboard. Droid 4 seems like the best bet.
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Bumping this again. Any news?
I'm in the same situation as OP. Need to upgrade phone (from a Desire Z) and want something with physical keyboard. Droid 4 seems like the best bet.
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The phone worked fine for me on Rogers when I had it. I did a bunch of tweaking in order to get all of the functions working, but this was back in ICS. Also, no LTE is available...
But you're much better off going full touchscreen, just get used to it... I think keyboard phones are going the way of the dinosaur
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eksobr said:
Bumping this again. Any news?
I'm in the same situation as OP. Need to upgrade phone (from a Desire Z) and want something with physical keyboard. Droid 4 seems like the best bet.
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The phone worked fine for me on Rogers when I had it. I did a bunch of tweaking in order to get all of the functions working, but this was back in ICS. Also, no LTE is available...
But you're much better off going full touchscreen, just get used to it... I think keyboard phones are going the way of the dinosaur
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OK guys this is perfect timing.. and i dont have much support for th eextra tweaking issues we have in Canada, with some of these phones and roms..
Anyhow. Heres my story.. You will like the ending!!
Ive owned a Droid 3 (XT860-BELLMOBILITY) for over a year now.. I came from the original Milestone 1 from Telus Mobililty.
4 weeks ago I had my Droid 3 stolen from me in the laundry room of my condo.. Well it was more.. forgotten by me (i think it was lost there.. for sure!!) and some lucky sole got their hands on it.. I can now use google and its cached pages of kijiji to see that it wass posted the day of.. lol ive got the kid selling other goods so its only a matter of time before i force karma upon him
I took a risk, but being desperate QWERTYDROID junkies like we are, and bought an American Verizon Droid 3 (XT862)
--Keep in mind that i knew nothing about unlocking, rooting, restoring, and doing the whole ROM/Bootstrap/TWRP/SAFEBOOT etc.. Im 35, been into pc's since i was 15, but never into MAC or LINUX.
At this point ive bricked these phones and the next one i speak about dozens of times, while attempting to do the practice makes perfect sort of journey to see what works, what doesnt, what sometimes does, etc.. Its always ended up being able to use the original stock rom's with no problems. (sometimes bloatwear was anoying) but not much support for our radios and etc.
So i had a bit of trouble getting this verizon droid 3 up and running as verizon themselves gives us extra work by trying to secure the load up of the activation process. Either way.. it worked, and still does, and ive gotten a few roms working on it like all SteelDroid, CM10.1, MiniMoto, and possibly a couple others. but these were the ones that can and will work, with a bit of trial and error.
shoot gotta run for a few minutes. so i wanna post this so i dont lose it all.
PART 2 of this story to follow within an hour!! But ill give you a bit of a spoiler.
I am using a Droid 4 now.. as a poster said justr before me, he had many issues to get past, well so did I, but them came the huge hurdles to get over also..
Still have my droid 3 xt862 that was wanting to sell. though,, im still not for certain ready to part with it..
be back shortly sorry about this..
next part in next post
What happened????
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eksobr said:
Bumping this again. Any news?
I'm in the same situation as OP. Need to upgrade phone (from a Desire Z) and want something with physical keyboard. Droid 4 seems like the best bet.
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As far as I'm aware, there shouldn't be any problem getting this to run on a GSM network outside the United States. If the phone is on ICS or JB the GSM is unlocked already. If you use any of the ROM's, there's a thread in the "Droid 4 Android Development" called "Enable GSM on any ROM Patch" which should fully enable it.
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demungtoe said:
I need a new phone with a physical keyboard. Was looking at the Droid4, which appears to have the best physical keyboard around, but am a bit of a newb at this stuff. My old HTC Dream (G1) is dying, and I need to figure this out sooner then later. Haha
Can it be unlocked to work on Rogers Wireless in Canada?
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I have a Droid4, updated with android 4.1, and I can confirm you that it works with Rogers
Hi,
I am looking to replace my galaxy player which just died, and I am thinking about using a standard phone without a service plan, as a wifi only device. Anyway, I'm leaning toward the Optimus 4X HD, since it can be had for just a couple hundred bucks, and it's pretty well spec'd. The problem is, I don't know if it requires activation to use, since some devices do and some don't. And if it is required, is there a way to bypass it like on Motorola devices? Just for reference, this one on eBay is the one I'm looking at (or one like it). Any help would be most appreciated.
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Hi,
I am looking to replace my galaxy player which just died, and I am thinking about using a standard phone without a service plan, as a wifi only device. Anyway, I'm leaning toward the Optimus 4X HD, since it can be had for just a couple hundred bucks, and it's pretty well spec'd. The problem is, I don't know if it requires activation to use, since some devices do and some don't. And if it is required, is there a way to bypass it like on Motorola devices? Just for reference, this one on eBay is the one I'm looking at (or one like it). Any help would be most appreciated.
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Carrier: Unlocked
i dont understand what you mean by activation bypass, but this item on ebay is not locked to any carrier.
Actually, you can run this phone without any activation (for ex. you don't need to connect your google account to use the phone).
Some activation step (as with every android), appear on the first boot, but you just skip it just by not connecting to any network (unticking the boxes with mobile data and wi-fi).
As you write, you will use the phone to surf the net, of course you can activate the internet option after skipping activation.
Thanks for the help, sorry if I was confusing. I was referring to carrier activation, since on some phones it seems to be mandatory before the phone can be used. Anyway, the fact that it's unlocked I think renders that irrelevant.
I'm buying a used Moto X for use with RW. I've never purchased a used phone before, so I have absolutely no idea what I need to be cognizant of when I receive the device. Obviously, I can review cosmetic issues, if any, but is there anything else I need to pay attention to?
I'm going to check that it has a clean ESN with RW once I get it, but is there anything else that I'd need to do?
Everything. Lol.
This is how Chinese "quality control" works
Inside of hand made in China "Assembled in the U.S.A" version of XT1058 (AT&T) from eBay repaired today
Make sure its running Jellybean or kitkat 4.4.2. Anything above that and you can forget unlocking the bootloader for the unforseen future. Im always tempted to buy a used moto x given that used ones are being sold so cheap. But...I hate the idea of not knowing what's been done to it in the past and nothing beats unboxing a fresh box.
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