If one does get to unlock the bootloader of the 2104 Moto X Verizon, Can they flash ROMS from the pure edition since both phones are basically the same except the Verizon version has CDMA.
At this point, the unlock is such a big "if", that you may as well forget about the second part.
We will never get a BL unlock. Only thing we can hope for is Root.
Also, that "except" is actually a pretty big difference at the system level
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I'm contemplating the idea of pre-ordering the X on Verizon because I love Moto's build quality. I had a Razr Maxx for a while and I loved the phone and, of course, the battery life. The only thing that really killed it for me was the locked bootloader. Has there been any word on whether or not it'll be locked on the VZW version? I'm hoping that since Google now owns Moto they'll allow the option to unlock it.
Lockett said:
I'm contemplating the idea of pre-ordering the X on Verizon because I love Moto's build quality. I had a Razr Maxx for a while and I loved the phone and, of course, the battery life. The only thing that really killed it for me was the locked bootloader. Has there been any word on whether or not it'll be locked on the VZW version? I'm hoping that since Google now owns Moto they'll allow the option to unlock it.
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Verizon Retail and AT&T Retail are locked. All other variants are unlockable, including a Verizon Developer Edition and North American Developer Edition.
mattlgroff said:
Verizon Retail and AT&T Retail are locked. All other variants are unlockable, including a Verizon Developer Edition and North American Developer Edition.
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Ahh that's what I figured would happen. They did the same thing with Razr's.
I saw this option to unlock the bootloader, through Motorola's Developer page. But it seems that if you unlocked the bootloader, you're forgoing the warranty on the device.
hidea said:
I saw this option to unlock the bootloader, through Motorola's Developer page. But it seems that if you unlocked the bootloader, you're forgoing the warranty on the device.
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That's how it is with any device, such as the Galaxy Nexus. I'm sure someone will come up with a program to root/unlock and unroot/lock.
What the different with the Moto X dev ed and the moto X you like get from att?If i got the Moto X dev ed will it come with a hotspot software or would i need to make my own for android?
I bait new when it come with things like unlocked phone.i hope someone can help me
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What the different with the Moto X dev ed and the moto X you like get from att?If i got the Moto X dev ed will it come with a hotspot software or would i need to make my own for android?
I bait new when it come with things like unlocked phone.i hope someone can help me
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DEV Editions have unlockable bootloaders without voiding the warranty. An unlockable bootloader allows you to flash a recovery not signed by Motorola (like TWRP or CWM) which will allow you to flash root and other .zips.
Non-dev editions on AT&T do not have the ability to unlock the bootloader.
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DEV Editions have unlockable bootloaders without voiding the warranty. An unlockable bootloader allows you to flash a recovery not signed by Motorola (like TWRP or CWM) which will allow you to flash root and other .zips.
Non-dev editions on AT&T do not have the ability to unlock the bootloader.
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So take it i have to make my own hotspot software for the moto X dev and it will not come with a recovery back to?
No, you'll be able to unlock the bootloader, root and install any of the methods that give the hotspot feature.
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What the different with the Moto X dev ed and the moto X you like get from att?If i got the Moto X dev ed will it come with a hotspot software or would i need to make my own for android?
I bait new when it come with things like unlocked phone.i hope someone can help me
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I'm going to copy/paste what I typed here ->http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=52359376&postcount=13 as it definitely answers your question.
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im going to repeat what has been said by me and others in the countless threads asking this same question....
The two developer edition moto X's come in black face, woven white back, with silver accents (buttons and ring around camera), and say Developer Edition on back. They only come as 32 gig. When it comes to unlocking the bootloader, you can get the code from moto for free, and it does not void your warranty. Once the bootloader is unlocked you can install 3rd party recovery, root, or install 3rd party roms (by 3rd party, I mean non-moto)
The retail x comes as black face, woven black back, and silver accents, or white face, woven white back, and silver accents. Moto Maker can be customized. These come as 32 or 16 gig.
I'm not going to go into the reasons why, but Moto does NOT give out the bootloader unlock code for the Retail and MotoMaker X for Verizon, ATT and a few other carriers.
When it comes to hardware, the GSM Developer Edition (XT1053) is the same as the T-Mobile or Carrier Unlocked/Unbranded (XT1053) and uses the same ROMs. The big difference is getting the unlock code from Moto for the non-dev edition voids the warranty. When it comes to the (CDMA) Developer Edition X for Verizon, they too are identical hardware, but as said, you can't get the unlock code from Moto unless you have the Dev Ed. (Note: for a brief period, there was a Chinses site selling the codes, but it was shut down and is not presently available. No one knows for sure if it ever will be again)
If they are the exact same price, get the dev edition so you can unlock the bootloader without voiding the warranty.
If you have ATT, know that their X is the XT1058, you can not get its bootloader unlock code from Moto. More importantly, by specs it supports 2 additional LTE bands (originally said to only be used outside the USA, but lately there has been talk that ATT is using one of them in the USA now), but does not support HSPA on AWS (used by t-mobile for non-LTE 4g, but t-mobile has been reframing their 1900 from 2g to HSPA in some areas). So if you have AT&T but got the gsm dev, you'd be at risk if ATT starts fully using one or both of those "other" LTE bands in the USA in the future.
As for why unlock the bootloader, what would the average Joe gain by it? See -> http://mark.cdmaforums.com/MotoX-Locked.html
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As for "hot spot"... There is hotspot software in the X ROM. Since the gsm Dev uses the T-Mobile rom, it might work as is on ATT without modifications. You'll have to look that up. But there are other options to remove any "entitlement" checks (there are threads about it) or you can use WiFi tether when the Dev Edition is rooted.
I like developer. I think developer option has better opportunity than others.
KidJoe said:
I'm going to copy/paste what I typed here ->http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=52359376&postcount=13 as it definitely answers your question.
As for "hot spot"... There is hotspot software in the X ROM. Since the gsm Dev uses the T-Mobile rom, it might work as is on ATT without modifications. You'll have to look that up. But there are other options to remove any "entitlement" checks (there are threads about it) or you can use WiFi tether when the Dev Edition is rooted.
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thank for the information
I'm stuck on Verizon but I absolutely need a phone with an unlocked bootloader for what I'm trying to accomplish.
From what I can tell the Moto X seems like a good option. Unfortunately, what I've read seems to imply that the Verizon version's bootloader cannot be unlocked. Is that correct?
So other than getting the developer edition of the phone (which is obviously much more expensive), do the Verizon Moto Xs from the online motorola store have an unlocked bootloader or are they the same as one purchased from Verizon?
I apologize if this has been asked before, but I was unable to find a clear answer. Would really appreciate if someone could please clarify.
Thanks
newbie455 said:
I'm stuck on Verizon but I absolutely need a phone with an unlocked bootloader for what I'm trying to accomplish.
From what I can tell the Moto X seems like a good option. Unfortunately, what I've read seems to imply that the Verizon version's bootloader cannot be unlocked.
So other than getting the developer edition of the phone (which is obviously much more expensive), do the Verizon Moto Xs from the online motorola store have an unlocked bootloader?
I apologize if this has been asked before, but I was unable to find a clear answer.
Thanks
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Here is a list of "unlockable" Moto devices.. Its not the most current..but current enuff to answer your question..
Here >> https://motorola-global-portal.cust...sion/L3RpbWUvMTM5MjA4OTk3OC9zaWQvQ3FFdnNETWw=
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4.4.4_21.11.21 (Unlocked)
XT1080M Droid Maxx #2
http://waynekent.com/page6.html
"Praise Jah" YOU people.!
newbie455 said:
I'm stuck on Verizon but I absolutely need a phone with an unlocked bootloader for what I'm trying to accomplish.
From what I can tell the Moto X seems like a good option. Unfortunately, what I've read seems to imply that the Verizon version's bootloader cannot be unlocked. Is that correct?
So other than getting the developer edition of the phone (which is obviously much more expensive), do the Verizon Moto Xs from the online motorola store have an unlocked bootloader or are they the same as one purchased from Verizon?
I apologize if this has been asked before, but I was unable to find a clear answer. Would really appreciate if someone could please clarify.
Thanks
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Get the Developer Eidtion for Verizon. I think it's on sale ending today. There's a coupon code floating around I saw that will take off $100 dollars or so.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/07/18/deal-alert-moto-x-going-least-100-coupon-code-motorola-com/
Coupon Code
newbie455 said:
I'm stuck on Verizon but I absolutely need a phone with an unlocked bootloader for what I'm trying to accomplish.
From what I can tell the Moto X seems like a good option. Unfortunately, what I've read seems to imply that the Verizon version's bootloader cannot be unlocked. Is that correct?
So other than getting the developer edition of the phone (which is obviously much more expensive), do the Verizon Moto Xs from the online motorola store have an unlocked bootloader or are they the same as one purchased from Verizon?
I apologize if this has been asked before, but I was unable to find a clear answer. Would really appreciate if someone could please clarify.
Thanks
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WHen it comes to the Moto X for Verizon there are 3 ways to get it... Developer Edition (on Moto's Dev Edition web site), Moto Maker edition (Moto's web site), or Verizon store (aka Retail edition).
The Retail and Moto Maker X for Verizon have their bootloaders LOCKED. Motorola does NOT give out the bootloader unlock code. The only way to unlock it, would be if the Chinese Middleman (see thread in general section) is still available and selling codes, but he hasn't been as reliable lately (some users have received wrong code, some have received message back saying no code available).
They use the same rom, radio, baseband, etc. They have the same software pre-installed, the same features, etc.
The Dev Edition comes only as Black Front, woven white back that says Dev Edition, silver accents (buttons and camera ring), 32gig, and unlocking the bootloader does NOT void the warranty.
The Moto Maker and Retail are basically the same, except available as 16 or 32 gig, fully customizable front/back/accents, and unlocking is not possible via Motorola. The only possibility is IF the Chinese Middleman will sell the code.
Got the code right from Motorola. Is this normal? Did I miss something or is it still supposed to be really hard to do on the Moto X?
Also, have any breakthroughs been made as far as SIM unlock goes?
Not sure about your carrier... But many Moto X's can be unlocked on the Moto site. At the sacrifice of the warranty, aside from Dev Edition. And most Sims can be unlocked on an unlock website.
I have the x1058, Rogers version. Unlocked bootloader and sim unlocked for 12 bucks from a site.... The night I got it.
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Verizon, at&t and Republic wireless can't be unlocked on moto site. That's all.
I am on verizon and paid a chinese guy for a bootloader unlock code for the first gen Moto X. I love this phone, but i want the 2nd gen Moto X.
I see that there is still no bootloader unlock method for verizon on the new moto x. Is the phone worth the upgrade and losing the unlocked bootloader?
IMO this phone (Motorola 2nd Gen) is the best designed phone on the market. Ask anyone who has one, they love this phone to death however the only flaw (minus the camera because no one whose using their phone camera needs flawless camera specs because if that's the case then they should be using a DSLR in the first place) would be the battery life. If you're like me and know little tweaks using tasker or something similar and are not a power user you'll be fine with about 30% battery left after 8 hours. Even so, if you don't mind carrying a charger, the Motorola Turbo Charger paired with the moto X is the perfect combination. Perfect construction with a solution to the battery and your set.
In regards to the locked bootloader, see if someone will unlock it for you or surf the web for tutorials and see if you can follow along, just make sure the tutorial you use is for Verizon files and ONLY Verizon files.
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In regards to the locked bootloader, see if someone will unlock it for you or surf the web for tutorials and see if you can follow along, just make sure the tutorial you use is for Verizon files and ONLY Verizon files.
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iifuzz said:
I am on verizon and paid a chinese guy for a bootloader unlock code for the first gen Moto X. I love this phone, but i want the 2nd gen Moto X.
I see that there is still no bootloader unlock method for verizon on the new moto x. Is the phone worth the upgrade and losing the unlocked bootloader?
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There currently is absolutely no way to unlock the VZW version bootloader. It has been uncrackable. While I won't say it won't happen, it would be a mistake to purchase based on the assumption that it will be unlocked. Better be prepared for the worst case if you decide to purchase.
iifuzz said:
I am on verizon and paid a chinese guy for a bootloader unlock code for the first gen Moto X. I love this phone, but i want the 2nd gen Moto X.
I see that there is still no bootloader unlock method for verizon on the new moto x. Is the phone worth the upgrade and losing the unlocked bootloader?
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As someone who did just that, trust me, it is worth it!