So I just got rid of my lg g2 and am waiting to buy the z1 when its released this week I'm just wondering if the boot loader is going to be unlockable because if not then I might have to consider vying something else as it cripples our ability to flash certain ROMS. Anybody have any idea of how it works are all carrier phones going to be locked permanently?
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So I just got rid of my lg g2 and am waiting to buy the z1 when its released this week I'm just wondering if the boot loader is going to be unlockable because if not then I might have to consider vying something else as it cripples our ability to flash certain ROMS. Anybody have any idea of how it works are all carrier phones going to be locked permanently?
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Ask your carrier, but I bet they wont tell you.
Chances are that if you are getting on a contract it will not be able to be unlocked
This tool, once implemented, will allow the bootloader to be bypassed and a custom kernel to be executed. According to Dan, this is similar to kexec "in that it works around a locked bootloader, but this approach is much more flexible and robust."
Before you get too excited, though, it's worth noting that this is a developer-only tool. It's designed for ROM and recovery devs and is not a utility made for the average Joe. In other words, don't expect to just download Loki and flash it through ADB or some other method.
With this being said, this is for Galaxy S4 phones only on att or verizon, but since this was done wouldnt it make sense to port it or whatever they do so it can work on the xperia phones with unlock-able bootloaders ? Rather than fighting to get our "TL" bootloaders unlock this would be an awesome workaround
Man that would be awesome to see this method implemented. I am so used to having a galaxy s that I really can't stand being on a lockedBL
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lt.anthonydelgado said:
Man that would be awesome to see this method implemented. I am so used to having a galaxy s that I really can't stand being on a lockedBL
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i know the feeling, im coming from the xperia x10 with unlocked BL and now i upgrade thinking ill have a cool device with unlock BL . sigh i jus hope someone implement this for sho
I am curious as to why it is so hard to root the note 3 on kit Kat? I have rooted phones for years, but by no means do I really know much about it other than reading rooting instructions on xda. Two days ago I rooted my fiance's S III and it couldn't have been easier. What makes rooting our phones on kit Kat so difficult. I'm just wondering. I guess if the answer was easy we would have a solution.
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No exploits have been found to crack kitkat. Too secure.
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In order to root a phone you need to find an exploit, or loophole in the system. The phones you previously rooted were simple because someone found that loophole and packaged a way for you to do it. As android develops it becomes more complex, and secure. Samsung also is growing and adding their new security feature called Knox. Don't forget at&t your carrier. They request Samsung to lock the bootloader. So now that there is all this code and security involved, root access is a pain in the a$$!
Who is working on the boot loader unlock for our variant of the s5? Is anyone?
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Who is working on the boot loader unlock for our variant of the s5? Is anyone?
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As far as I know no one, work on safe strap seems to have come to a stop as well so it doesn't look like we will be getting ROM slots working either att = suck
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Who is working on the boot loader unlock for our variant of the s5? Is anyone?
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There may be someone working on it...but no need to talk about it till they have something concrete.
I have a feeling if the S5 is cracked it'll work on our Actives as well.
This is an awesome phone...I'm pretty satisfied with it and it can only be better. There's some amazing minds here...be patient.
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Nickovtyme said:
There may be someone working on it...but no need to talk about it till they have something concrete.
I have a feeling if the S5 is cracked it'll work on our Actives as well.
This is an awesome phone...I'm pretty satisfied with it and it can only be better. There's some amazing minds here...be patient.
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No need for a glimmer of hope to be spread. Better to have no hope and be impressed than have hope and be depressed, imo.
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Who is working on the boot loader unlock for our variant of the s5? Is anyone?
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With a phone this popular, I can't imagine the bootloader will never be unlocked. Either Samsung will do so, or someone will fix it.
Not to be a doubter, but considering the S4 is reaching a year and a half without its bootloader being cracked put a damper on this one. Not sure if it has been improved more. I do believe it is being worked on. I hope that if one gets cracked the other will shortly thereafter.
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Not to be a doubter, but considering the S4 is reaching a year and a half without its bootloader being cracked put a damper on this one. Not sure if it has been improved more. I do believe it is being worked on. I hope that if one gets cracked the other will shortly thereafter.
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An exploit was actually shown at Black Hat a few weeks ago showing a permanent bootloader unlock for the S4 and various other devices, but no S5
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An exploit was actually shown at Black Hat a few weeks ago showing a permanent bootloader unlock for the S4 and various other devices, but no S5
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It is still yet to be accomplished on the S4 (I am aware a demonstration was made). It should theoretically work on the S5 as well since it is nearly identical to the S5 in internals. (Those who want to disagree, go ahead. It is just my opinion that they are nearly identical). The exploit was for the particular setup in Snapdragon devices if I recall correctly, which that setup is present in the AT&T S5.
While the devices listed are unpatched and devices like the S5 are patched, it is my opinion that one can always pull back a patch for a problem. We see it all the time with Root. I'm just not talented enough to know how to do that level of work.
Hello,
I am just wondering, where is the latest news on the progress of our bootloader being unlocked? Or atleast where can I get any kind of info on how to do it? Cause I'll be dead honest, I turned on my galaxy S3 and missed the CM experience. I just want to get this thing unlocked so I can enjoy our phone, instead of being OK with what ATT gives us, cause its kinda dumb.
thanks for any information at all, cause I'd honestly dedicate my phone to the effort.
-Gulik
If u got s3 them u in wrong forum. Needed to go to att s3 forum.
Samsung unlock bootloader on SM-G870A ...
No no, I have both. I am using my S5, but I miss my S3 because of CM. I just want to help with this somehow.
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Also would love an answer to this question! Im came from a nexus 5 too so this really bothers me. ALL THIS ANDROID L IS MAKIN ME ANXIOUS TO GET A GLORIOUS CM ROM ON MY PHONE
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there will never be unlocked by at&t, this company is closed by capitalist political protection of the operator's own functions.
well I sold the phone, it is unfortunate, it is a good phone, it's amazing the difference g900a g900f with the operating system.
The g900f has everything unlocked functions representing the galaxy s5.
I recommend that you do not fall into the scam at&t.
I hate to be pessimistic, but with the arrival of "android 5" I doubt that at&t update these terminals, is a company that has a reputation of leaving obsolete phones.
I would easily pay 25-50 dollars for an unlock tool (like Sunshine for HTC/Motorola devices) for the G900A. While I do appreciate Safestrap and all its glory, I really, really, want stock android L on our device. Because somewhere...... a Samsung engineer is looking at L thinking "how can we screw this one up..."
All I'm saying is this, I'm not too savy with hacking or low level coding; but I hope that if Samsung does push out Android L and that there is some sort of exploit or bug that will allow us to root/unlock the boot loader since it would be a fairly new os compared to that of ICS/KK.
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Im just hoping devs get the bootloader unlocked before the end of 2014, but sadly i dont know if it will ever be unlocked
Why can't we pull a boot loader encryption key from an update?
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akitten007 said:
I would easily pay 25-50 dollars for an unlock tool (like Sunshine for HTC/Motorola devices) for the G900A. While I do appreciate Safestrap and all its glory, I really, really, want stock android L on our device. Because somewhere...... a Samsung engineer is looking at L thinking "how can we screw this one up..."
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Be careful what you wish for...
"L" has a whole new set of challenges....
Init commands are no more...
So our traditional root and superuser mechanisms are gone...
Google did this on purpose in the name of security..
So not only are the carriers locking us out..but Google is turning into the new apple....
So much for open source and freedom to create....g
Man screw this s5 I'm going to fire back up my s3 . I'm missing cm big time
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Why can't we pull a boot loader encryption key from an update?
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What you're describing is basically breaking an encryption, which is out of the realm of possibility. It would be far easier (and has still not happened yet) to literally steal the keys from Samsung. I believe previous bootloaders have been unlocked this way. If a lock is unpickable, then I'll just steal the key from the guy who has it right?
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What you're describing is basically breaking an encryption, which is out of the realm of possibility. It would be far easier (and has still not happened yet) to literally steal the keys from Samsung. I believe previous bootloaders have been unlocked this way. If a lock is unpickable, then I'll just steal the key from the guy who has it right?
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Sounds good to me .
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If the T-Mobile version is unlocked why can't we just make it think it's the same phone, or just switch out the boot loader somehow. Maybe someone understands what I'm saying ?
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If the T-Mobile version is unlocked why can't we just make it think it's the same phone, or just switch out the boot loader somehow. Maybe someone understands what I'm saying ?
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That's not going to ever happen. The bootloader is locked down to prevent that. You need to unlock our bootloader before you could ever switch them.
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If the T-Mobile version is unlocked why can't we just make it think it's the same phone, or just switch out the boot loader somehow. Maybe someone understands what I'm saying ?
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That's not going to ever happen. The bootloader is locked down to prevent that. You need to unlock our bootloader before you could ever switch them.
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Technically you are correct however, Odin can flash BootLoaders but alas we are back to if we had the "keys" we wouldnt need to try to flash a TMO BL.
viscous circle we are in
Do you guys think it will ever happen? I mean realistically
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ericjackson said:
Do you guys think it will ever happen? I mean realistically
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Doubtful
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Doubtful
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Man that sucks... I expected the type of options like I had with my s3.hmmm
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Man that sucks... I expected the type of options like I had with my s3.hmmm
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I love my S5 rooted running a killer Rom beautifully themed with great battery life and debloated. I've had a Galaxy S series since the S2. My S3 was a decent phone but this S5 is a beast.
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