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So I'm choosing between Moto G first gen and second gen phone. I like the second gen more, but I now see that they are almost no roms at all for this phone to flash? So I wonder, is there some limiting factor, or will we get tons of roms after this phone has been out for a while? Beacuse I mean the first Moto G seems to have a big support on this matter but not this phone, not yet anyway?
I'm pretty sure it will, phone is pretty new, and when I say pretty it means even not a month has passed
I think you are right, it's quite new. Just wanted to know so that the bootloader or something isn't locked so it's impossible to flash things
baxtex said:
I think you are right, it's quite new. Just wanted to know so that the bootloader or something isn't locked so it's impossible to flash things
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it will have devs working on them, the bootloader is unlocked and the phone is pretty popular im sure the forum will have alot of activity
I've seen a Paranoid Android port for the first Moto G that required dual SIM users to flash a GPE firmware before installation...
Since I am not seeing a single SIM model by now, do you guys think some kind of fix will be available to use the Paranoid Android port? Is it possible?
There is not a single thread on original development
I am really worried if there will be good development community, right now there is not a single thread for original development.
vorakeyur said:
I am really worried if there will be good development community, right now there is not a single thread for original development.
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We don't have kernel sources how are developers supposed to make decent ROMs
Gabboplano said:
We don't have kernel sources how are developers supposed to make decent ROMs
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This. After 1-2 months have passed and Motorola releases kernel sources, we will be able to get Original Rom Development like CM and Paranoid. I'm looking forward to how things will turn out.
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Hello,
I just made up an question. When do you people think Android L will be released? And do you think it will be released for the GT-N7000? If so when do you think it will be released?
Thanks in advance,
Cédian.
Hi Dev_Freak,
There will NEVER be an official release of Android L (Android 5.0) for our N7000.... As Samsung gave up on us with JellyBean (and an old one at that, 4.1.2, didn't even make 4.2.x or 4.3.x..... certainly no KK).
So we just have to hope we have enough Devs out there who still find it fun to code for our old hardware now... As it seems some of the bigger groups have already abandoned us anyway...
Cheers, Lister
dev_freak said:
Hello,
I just made up an question. When do you people think Android L will be released? And do you think it will be released for the GT-N7000? If so when do you think it will be released?
Thanks in advance,
Cédian.
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Lister Of Smeg said:
Hi Dev_Freak,
There will NEVER be an official release of Android L (Android 5.0) for our N7000.... As Samsung gave up on us with JellyBean (and an old one at that, 4.1.2, didn't even make 4.2.x or 4.3.x..... certainly no KK).
So we just have to hope we have enough Devs out there who still find it fun to code for our old hardware now... As it seems some of the bigger groups have already abandoned us anyway...
Cheers, Lister
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Sorry was ment to mention an custom ROM. So when do you think an custom ROM will be released?
Hi Dev_Freak,
A cheap tacky no thrills Android L rom, prolly about 2 to 3 weeks...
A quality rom, from a known release group.... prolly looking towards a couple of months, or by Christmas....
Cheers, Lister
dev_freak said:
Sorry was ment to mention an custom ROM. So when do you think an custom ROM will be released?
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Lister Of Smeg said:
Hi Dev_Freak,
A cheap tacky no thrills Android L rom, prolly about 2 to 3 weeks...
A quality rom, from a known release group.... prolly looking towards a couple of months, or by Christmas....
Cheers, Lister
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Thanks I then wait for the long time for as example cm12
Yeah, CM12 won't be rushed... Even more so now they are a proper company, rather than just a project based community...
It's better for a group to take their time and hold back, than to rush it, be the first to claim "Android L" rom, and then have several pages of people complaining and slagging them off for a buggy build...
Cheers, Lister
dev_freak said:
Thanks I then wait for the long time for as example cm12
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Lister Of Smeg said:
Yeah, CM12 won't be rushed... Even more so now they are a proper company, rather than just a project based community...
It's better for a group to take their time and hold back, than to rush it, be the first to claim "Android L" rom, and then have several pages of people complaining and slagging them off for a buggy build...
Cheers, Lister
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Yeah that's true. CyanogenMod was started by an small amount of people, but they grew and edited more and more devices and got very many devices and porters etc, right? I love CyanogenMod because it's an great aftermarket stock like ROM and they'll support this device long enough thanks to the specs of this device and features of the new stock ROMs. BTW I added soft keys so I feel more comfortable since my second android device was an galaxy nexus. I was puking and pieing at the same time and my phone then broke. I had as first android device an xperia x8. I am btw only fourteen almost fifteen only six days till my 15th birthday. But I am very handy with phones and computers. And at school sometimes they ask me to get the computer cables into the computers.
Hey any devs out there will skills ,resources and the time PLEAAASE PLEAAAASE make an AOSP build for the Moto X.... I know Motorola will be quick with their updates but i just cant wait!!! I am just refreshing the Development sections of the Forum every hour hoping for a ROM build....
I believe devs would have to make a whole new kernel since L was not released for the moto x yet. Not sure if someone will do that before it is officially released for us.
I just want it! Caaant wait! i really hope some dev is already working his ass off to bring us some Lollipop!
Gundabolu SC said:
I just want it! Caaant wait! i really hope some dev is already working his ass off to bring us some Lollipop!
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Without kernel and binaries = No deal. It was already tried with KitKat, I tried with the AOSP sources but without a Kernel developer dedicating it's precious time and the binaries/drivers, just give up on your dream.
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Without kernel and binaries = No deal. It was already tried with KitKat, I tried with the AOSP sources but without a Kernel developer dedicating it's precious time and the binaries/drivers, just give up on your dream.
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Its definitely NOT impossible!!! When other devices like S3 mini,s3,Xperia Z can run without the binaries.... Why cant the Moto X? People have just given up on this phone!
I mean till now we were in the spotlight, but after Moto X 2014 we have been pushed back... We always have run the latest versions of Android till date n have never faced the need for porting n stuff... but i guess this will change when Motorola stops supporting us, then OSs would be ported withot Binaries!
Gundabolu SC said:
Its definitely NOT impossible!!! When other devices like S3 mini,s3,Xperia Z can run without the binaries.... Why cant the Moto X? People have just given up on this phone!
I mean till now we were in the spotlight, but after Moto X 2014 we have been pushed back... We always have run the latest versions of Android till date n have never faced the need for porting n stuff... but i guess this will change when Motorola stops supporting us, then OSs would be ported withot Binaries!
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They worked on other devices because they have common parts inside of them. Commom snapdragon chips, when the Moto X has the "powerful futureproof Moto X8 Mobile Computing System", it still a snapdragon, yeah, but heavily modified. As I said, until we see sources we won't get it. Why? The work to make a KitKat kernel (specially the Moto X one) work on Lollipop isn't worth the effort. Unless you pay someone for it...
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They worked on other devices because they have common parts inside of them. Commom snapdragon chips, when the Moto X has the "powerful futureproof Moto X8 Mobile Computing System", it still a snapdragon, yeah, but heavily modified. As I said, until we see sources we won't get it. Why? The work to make a KitKat kernel (specially the Moto X one) work on Lollipop isn't worth the effort. Unless you pay someone for it...
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As far as I understand the modification to the processor is not to the Main processor itself but its just the addition of further coprocessors... I doubt if Qualcomm would keep quiet if Motorola messed with their processor and called it their own! Aaand.. Even with the sources we are not allowed to use the coprocessors right? So they are pretty much useless! I STILL don't think its THAT HARD! yeah it might be hard... But others have done it... People here just don't try as much I suppose!
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As far as I understand the modification to the processor is not to the Main processor itself but its just the addition of further coprocessors... I doubt if Qualcomm would keep quiet if Motorola messed with their processor and called it their own! Aaand.. Even with the sources we are not allowed to use the coprocessors right? So they are pretty much useless! I STILL don't think its THAT HARD! yeah it might be hard... But others have done it... People here just don't try as much I suppose!
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It's not worth porting over just so 50 people can have Lollipop on their Moto X 2013 when it's going to come within the next month anyway.'
Those other devices will probably either never get Lollipop or well get them much later.
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It's not worth porting over just so 50 people can have Lollipop on their Moto X 2013 when it's going to come within the next month anyway.'
Those other devices will probably either never get Lollipop or well get them much later.
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I agree... Anyways... Already OmniROM seems to have started merging Lollipop...
I don't think it will be long b4 other pitch in too!
Despite the release of kernel sources, why isn't there much development for this phone? Is it because most developers don't have this phone, or because they're waiting for the release of lollipop?
I kinda now wish that I'd bought the Moto G 1st gen lol.
Wish I knew! My guess is that they're waiting for Lollipop. Then again, this phone is still young. So not many people / developers own this device. And Motorola isn't Samsung or HTC. It's a small fish in the smartphone ocean!
smitharro said:
Wish I knew! My guess is that they're waiting for Lollipop. Then again, this phone is still young. So not many people / developers own this device. And Motorola isn't Samsung or HTC. It's a small fish in the smartphone ocean!
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Yeah, but moto g has like ****loads of ROMs.
But, any how here's to speedy development
mahendru1992 said:
Yeah, but moto g has like ****loads of ROMs.
But, any how here's to speedy development
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It'll come!
Fingers crossed
Drivers were released a few days ago, so yeah, they are coming
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Drivers were released a few days ago, so yeah, they are coming
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Yeah I hope so too. I'm also hoping that a developer does comment here and make us stop worrying
Slow development??? The phone was released less than two months ago. Not to mention in stock mode it is already a kick-ass phone.
But as with all things, there is always somebody who isn't happy with the status quo.
pastorbob62 said:
Slow development??? The phone was released less than two months ago. Not to mention in stock mode it is already a kick-ass phone.
But as with all things, there is always somebody who isn't happy with the status quo.
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Chill Bro! I'm not happy, but certainly I'm not complaining also here.
And why I'm asking is because when the kernel sources weren't released, everybody was saying that wait till they release, and we'll get speedy development of ROMs and kernels. But now that sources have been released, no development. I was kinda disappointed.
I had a s3 before, and that phone had ROMs in the 1st month only. So yes I'm comparing. Kill me
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Not to mention in stock mode it is already a kick-ass phone.
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On a side note, hows your battery life mate, I can barely make it through a day.
I Read on gsm arena that the endurance time was 50hrs.But I could see my meter spiraling downwards
Me thinks somethings wrong with my battery :cyclops:
Bdw Im using a dual sim version
Same here. Sometimes the battery lasts long enough, most of the time is goes empty very quickly and the top right corner of my XT1068 gets warm. Not hot, but warm. Don't know about the internal layout so don't know if it's related.
Wondering if I should RMA it or replace kernel/ROM and hope for the best.
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On a side note, hows your battery life mate, I can barely make it through a day.
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How come? Mine lasts easily through the day! Look carefully at the apps you're using: which one is consuming the most? Greenify it! Furthermore avoid using 3g. 2g Is fine for just Whatsapp etc! And don't use animated backgrounds!
mahendru1992 said:
Chill Bro! I'm not happy, but certainly I'm not complaining also here.
And why I'm asking is because when the kernel sources weren't released, everybody was saying that wait till they release, and we'll get speedy development of ROMs and kernels. But now that sources have been released, no development. I was kinda disappointed.
I had a s3 before, and that phone had ROMs in the 1st month only. So yes I'm comparing. Kill me
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No problem my friend. I understand the desire to improve on a good thing. I am sure we'll see some custom ROM's showing up soon.
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metalrules321 said:
On a side note, hows your battery life mate, I can barely make it through a day.
I Read on gsm arena that the endurance time was 50hrs.But I could see my meter spiraling downwards
Me thinks somethings wrong with my battery :cyclops:
Bdw Im using a dual sim version
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I get a full day's use out of it before I have to charge. But I play several games off and on throughout the day. On days where I don't do any game playing it will last two days.
I am on the single SIM model (XT1063)
What do you have running in the background?
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What do you have running in the background?
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Pretty much empty.
I rooted and removed most of the moto and google bloats
The only persistent ones are whatsapp, viper4android and faux sound
And Im not playing games on it too except for maybe a round of pocket tanks and subway surfer and not using any animated wallpapers
I disabled my second sim just to see what results i get
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Pretty much empty.
I rooted and removed most of the moto and google bloats
The only persistent ones are whatsapp, viper4android and faux sound
And Im not playing games on it too except for maybe a round of pocket tanks and subway surfer and not using any animated wallpapers
I disabled my second sim just to see what results i get
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I usually recommend this to everyone, but if you're having battery drain problems, just use ubounced, a xposed module. I had around 8-10 hours of standby, but after using it, My standby increased to 24-26 hours, and Screen On Time was around 4-5 hours. I don't micromanage at all i.e 3g is on all the time, no WiFi, sync is on
Do you think is safe buying Moto 2014 then? I mean development will popout? Or better buy 2013 LTE ?
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Do you think is safe buying Moto 2014 then? I mean development will popout? Or better buy 2013 LTE ?
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i'm worried for the same,to buy moto g 2014 or not seeing less or no develpoment here...i think i must go with moto X 13 but it has 16gb
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asfagus said:
i'm worried for the same,to buy moto g 2014 or not seeing less or no develpoment here...i think i must go with moto X 13 but it has 16gb
in my region
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I just think is early. Just wait for some devs who can relieve us but we should receive modding aswell! Wait before buying !
HI everyone,
Is there any definite information available regarding whether the Moto G2 would get the Android N? Thanks for sharing any information about this.
I pray for stock 6.0.1 and security update
support lenovo says that the last tests but when asked which country he could not say
lying, but I hope I'm wrong
forget about stock N..
only custom..
I'll wait a few more weeks as nothing appears I install custom 5.1.1 or RR 5.7.3 based on M.
but on all 6 rom touch issuse is there from what I read
Android N will not be coming to our beloved Moto G2. It will come by CM or other custom rom.
I very doubt it. Titan didn't even got stock 6.0.1 yet. Perhaps CM could bring it, who knows.
Thanks for the replies everyone. Really appreciate it!
Oh well, I am kinda used to the Moto G2 as my second phone. It was quite cheap and is still quite fast and problem-free. So, I was curious (and hopeful) about whether there was any chance of it getting the upcoming Android.
Thanks again! :good:
I am waiting for android N ...lets hope we get it soon
Well, if Lenovo fixed the touch issues, it would make things easier. Anyways, one of CM13's devs for Titan said that it would be hard because stuff changed the camera and without proper source code, it would be hard to make it work. One can only hope.
I just had a chat with Motorola Customer Support. They said that they do not have any information right now as to which all phones will get Android N and by when would they get it.
No stock naugat.
I'm a moto g 2014 owner and i got the official 6.0 patch on my device, though i was a part of a soak test but i'm pretty sure it was released right after the soak ended back in February. chances of Android N on moto g 2nd gen are slim but it could happen.
any chance of custom n rom
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Well, if Lenovo fixed the touch issues, it would make things easier. Anyways, one of CM13's devs for Titan said that it would be hard because stuff changed the camera and without proper source code, it would be hard to make it work. One can only hope.
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Why? The custom ROM's currently available are awesome and provide all that I need for now. If getting the latest version of Android becomes that important to me then I will upgrade my phone to one that supports it. But that's me.
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Why? The custom ROM's currently available are awesome and provide all that I need for now. If getting the latest version of Android becomes that important to me then I will upgrade my phone to one that supports it. But that's me.
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Seems like you don't experience the touch issues which are plaguing the MM ROMs for this device then. And I agree, I don't see a hurry for Nougat for me right now, Marshmallow would be good enough. And I would prefer to see this phone die on MM with a fixed touch drivers (pls Lenovo), rather than going to NG with lots of things broken, according to the devs.
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Seems like you don't experience the touch issues which are plaguing the MM ROMs for this device then. And I agree, I don't see a hurry for Nougat for me right now, Marshmallow would be good enough. And I would prefer to see this phone die on MM with a fixed touch drivers (pls Lenovo), rather than going to NG with lots of things broken, according to the devs.
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No I don't have any touch issues. But my post may have been prophetic. Yesterday, my mobile data stopped working for no apparent reason. All of the usual suspects are properly set and on still, so it is definitely a hardware issue. I have no data unless I am connected through a WIFI AP. Really sucks since I cannot access the WIFI at my job with personal devices. And the company laptop is so restricted I can't really get any personal business done on my break times.
Bottom line - I ordered a Moto G 4th gen yesterday evening. Hopefully it will serve me as well as did the 2nd gen. I really gave it a thorough run for the two years I had it. We'll see how it compares.
Touch issues happen only if you have glass protecting screen on some ROMs but if you have i recommend cm13 and if you need more personalization put xposed and thats all
EduardoClasheiro said:
Touch issues happen only if you have glass protecting screen on some ROMs but if you have i recommend cm13 and if you need more personalization put xposed and thats all
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For all of the hype I see about xposed, I have never had a pressing desire to install it. At least not where my needs lie.
EduardoClasheiro said:
Touch issues happen only if you have glass protecting screen on some ROMs but if you have i recommend cm13 and if you need more personalization put xposed and thats all
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I don't use a glass screen protector :v
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For all of the hype I see about xposed, I have never had a pressing desire to install it. At least not where my needs lie.
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Xposed is about more personalization if you dont like or dont care about personalization it will be useless, personaly i dont use it ????
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I don't use a glass screen protector :v
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I have issues here and think it is the problem ???? good to know dont is this, by the way cm 13 fixed my problemas ????
Hi. I have MotoG2 XT 1068 in India. I want to know how to get VoLTE and 4G from Reliance Jio on my MotoG2. Please let em know any ROM which will work for this. Thanks
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Hi. I have MotoG2 XT 1068 in India. I want to know how to get VoLTE and 4G from Reliance Jio on my MotoG2. Please let em know any ROM which will work for this. Thanks
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moto g2 xt1068 is not a 4g device. but you can use reliance jio via their jio mifi device which is a portable wifi Hotspot device.