Kernels... - T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Which do you run, and how would you rate your experience with it?
So far avail kernels are
Stock,
AEL http://forum.xda-developers.com/not...pment/30-november-2014-n4-ael-kernel-t2961240
BioShock - http://forum.xda-developers.com/not...pment/kernel-bioshock-1-5-dec-4-2014-t2962744
KT-Note4 http://forum.xda-developers.com/not...lopment/kernel-kt-note4-nih-ktweaker-t2936809
Starkissed - http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4/unified-development/kernel-dealers-choice-t2915824
Let's discuss it !

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The reason for this thread is to gauge personal experiences regarding battery life SOT and performance.
aftermarket kernels are supposed to extend on the experience of a stock kernel and make it better
yet on every kernel i try my battery life is decent, SOT is around 4-5hrs, performance is great
Stock kernel , battery life is insane, SOT has now broken 6.5hrs SOT (and i still have 30% left) and performance is decent-great , overnight i lost 1% during idle.
my OCD is killing me with stock kernel because there's nothing for me to play with, i want to go back to a aftermarket kernel but i need your opinion . thanks. (when i tried AEL 5.8 , i got SOT of 4 hours and 50 minutes, overnight i lost 10% during idle)
Thanks for your input-

I get what your saying with this thread but all that is gonna happen is trolls are gonna come in and bash the devs of the kernels their ROM devs don't support. Then it just gonna get worse. It not a good idea cause if enough bashing gets done then no Dev will make kernels and we all be rocking stock.
BAD ASS NOTE 4 + BAD ASS GEAR S

BACARDILIMON said:
I get what your saying with this thread but all that is gonna happen is trolls are gonna come in and bash the devs of the kernels their ROM devs don't support. Then it just gonna get worse. It not a good idea cause if enough bashing gets done then no Dev will make kernels and we all be rocking stock.
BAD ASS NOTE 4 + BAD ASS GEAR S
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it's sad and i agree with you that's probably the attention it will bring, i couldn't find any good honest kernel discussions going on that's all my intention was....

masri1987 said:
it's sad and i agree with you that's probably the attention it will bring, i couldn't find any good honest kernel discussions going on that's all my intention was....
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I know what you are saying. Just be aware of this thread and if it starts to go way sideways please reach out to a mod to close and delete it.
BAD ASS NOTE 4 + BAD ASS GEAR S

BACARDILIMON said:
I know what you are saying. Just be aware of this thread and if it starts to go way sideways please reach out to a mod to close and delete it.
BAD ASS NOTE 4 + BAD ASS GEAR S
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will do

Why not take some time to visit each kernel thread individually and read through direct reports from users? I know it's a little more time consuming but there's no better way to Guage the strengths and weaknesses of a kernel or rom.

It all depends on the person using the phone. Each experience can be a little different. If stock is giving you great results then stick with it. I usually install a rom, debloat it myself and run it for a few days to see how it does. Then I try a custom kernel. Results may vary so sorry about the OCD thing but maybe you have an app or something causing the phone not to sleep. Or you play games? I'm not a big gamer but I do listen to music a lot. These devs try to make improvements for us and themselves but at some point you'll have to charge your phone lol.

Bruce lee roy said:
Why not take some time to visit each kernel thread individually and read through direct reports from users? I know it's a little more time consuming but there's no better way to Guage the strengths and weaknesses of a kernel or rom.
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been there done that, I've thoroughly ran through BioShock and AEL (i haven't tried KT's) and starkissed was terribly laggy on my phone so didn't spend more than a few hours on it to be honest.
Some users on AEL and Bioshock claim 6-7hrs of SOT which would be great and equal to stock kernel, but every version i've ran of both have gotten me just right around 4-5hrs of SOT with similar usage of 2 hours of bluetooth streaming, about 30 minutes of calls, text and social media all day.
steve97ta said:
It all depends on the person using the phone. Each experience can be a little different. If stock is giving you great results then stick with it. I usually install a rom, debloat it myself and run it for a few days to see how it does. Then I try a custom kernel. Results may vary so sorry about the OCD thing but maybe you have an app or something causing the phone not to sleep. Or you play games? I'm not a big gamer but I do listen to music a lot. These devs try to make improvements for us and themselves but at some point you'll have to charge your phone lol.
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I play no games, and i am trying to get myself to stick with stock kernel lol it's hard!
Uh i'm using WLD and i have leandroid and greenify (all apps are in greenify except for my alarm clock) , not a big gamer beyond starlink and alchemy really, i listen to music for about 1-2 hrs daily while i'm in the gym via bt streaming.
My settings on kernel will usually be
Umbrella_Core or Bioshock
Zen or Row with 2048 mb of cache
turn off emmc and entropy
intellithermal if available.
Intelliplug
i don't overclock.
Hardlimit enabled
GPU Set at simple_ondemand with the option for it selected
let me know if i'm missing something
thanks guys !

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[Q] Speedmod kernel - bad lag when gaming.

Hi everyone.
I've been lurking around this forum for a long time and used alot of custom roms and kernels for my old trusty SGS2.
A month ago I decided to upgrade to the lovely GNOTE. I was and still am very satisfied with it, except for 1 thing. Battery life was nowhere near what I had on my SGS2. So I decidet to start tweaking it a bit.
To my great joy I found the Speedmog-kernel by hardcore and proceeded to install it. Everything works fine and batterylife really improved.
Now to my problem, when I'm playing f.ex Templerun I get really bad lag compared to when I was on stock-kernel. Trying to find what is causing it I have used to cpu-spy to see if it ramps up or not. and to my surprise I find that after playing templerun for about an hour I had 14 seconds on 1400 Mhz and the rest on 800 Mhz. No wonder it lags badly.
Is there a way to redeem this problem?
ps.
reason I'm posting here is because I'm not allowed to post in develpoment section yet.
Forgot to mention that I'm on stock LC1 and only custom is Speedmod K2-10 kernel
Belfia said:
to my surprise I find that after playing templerun for about an hour I had 14 seconds on 1400 Mhz and the rest on 800 Mhz. No wonder it lags badly.
Is there a way to redeem this problem?
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Why don't you experiment with some other kernels? AbyssNote also offers overclocking feature for heavy gaming. Don't know what it'll do for your battery life, though.
Franco kernel is also excelent.
Belfia said:
reason I'm posting here is because I'm not allowed to post in develpoment section yet.
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You'd be shouted out of you underpants had you posted this in the dev section. Q & A is the proper sub-forum for this type of thread.
Thanks for your reply.
I think I'll give Francokernel a couple of days testing. Too bad though since i allways liked Speedmod on the SGS2.

Root v ROM - Battery Life

I rooted my Vivid (AT&T) a long while back, flashed a custom kernel (Faux 007) and tweaked it a fair bit for a cleaner look and better battery life. It helped. Some.
I have work apps installed that are a pain to get authorized and reinstalled, so I'd rather not go through the trouble again if I don't have to. However, I would like to get better battery life out of my phone if I could.
So, anyone have any experience on battery life of root vs ROM? Any particular ROMs/kernels for fantastic battery life? I'm not using sense widgets so doesn't matter if it's sense or stock UI.
TIA
WCX ROM FTW google wcx illuminati and register on his forum. you need 10 posts to download tho
XxSHaDoWxSLaYeRxX said:
WCX ROM FTW google wcx illuminati and register on his forum. you need 10 posts to download tho
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Not to get off topic here, but is WCX a sense based ROM?
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Personally, the Holics ROM 1.3 with Holics 0730 kernel has worked great for me.
SetCPU to control CPU frequency: Max 1.5GHZ, min 350MHZ.
I used the Intellidemand governor, and noop scheduler.
I do NOT use task killers.
I use Lux Auto Brightness to control my screen brightness (highly recommend it!).
I use the APN Switch widget to turn my APN off when not in use (basically always unless I'm sending/receiving an MMS)
I close my apps when I'm done with them.
There is also an app called Llama that you can use to control all kinds of things, like turning wifi on and off based on the time of day and/or your location, etc. It's pretty cool, but I don't use it presently. Here are two examples of my battery life, with moderate usage.
Then ya'll will hate this one. I'm running wahjee's 1.6 de-sensed ROM with everything on. Live wallpapers, notifications, widgets galore and a lot of use...
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envygreen said:
I rooted my Vivid (AT&T) a long while back, flashed a custom kernel (Faux 007) and tweaked it a fair bit for a cleaner look and better battery life. It helped. Some.
I have work apps installed that are a pain to get authorized and reinstalled, so I'd rather not go through the trouble again if I don't have to. However, I would like to get better battery life out of my phone if I could.
So, anyone have any experience on battery life of root vs ROM? Any particular ROMs/kernels for fantastic battery life? I'm not using sense widgets so doesn't matter if it's sense or stock UI.
TIA
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with rom and battery life it is easier to try the different ones for yourself to see which gives you better life, each device and person will have different experiences. I had good experiences with all of them but what worked good for me may not for you.
ronnie498 said:
with rom and battery life it is easier to try the different ones for yourself to see which gives you better life, each device and person will have different experiences. I had good experiences with all of them but what worked good for me may not for you.
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Agreed. I think more than anything it comes down to two things: your screen-on time, and your cell-searching time. If you are in a low-signal area a lot (like the woods or a basement, or worse - a basement in the woods (!!!)) you can expect to get poor battery life on just about anything. Also, if you're playing angry birds every waking moment, you're going to bleed your batter dry. Simple as that.
If you live in a good signal area, and have screen brightness as low as possible, you're already in a good spot. Any tweaks you can do might help, but probably not by 12+ hours.
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Agreed. I think more than anything it comes down to two things: your screen-on time, and your cell-searching time. If you are in a low-signal area a lot (like the woods or a basement, or worse - a basement in the woods (!!!)) you can expect to get poor battery life on just about anything. Also, if you're playing angry birds every waking moment, you're going to bleed your batter dry. Simple as that.
If you live in a good signal area, and have screen brightness as low as possible, you're already in a good spot. Any tweaks you can do might help, but probably not by 12+ hours.
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You know, that's probably my number one issue, I just hadn't thought about it that way. On weekends, I easily last the whole day and have 40% or more left. At work, it's dying fast and often unless I plug it in while I'm at my desk. I'm away from windows and 11 floors up, so the signal is pretty poor.
In normal situations, the battery life does seem improved with the kernel I am using and the rooted/cleaned up bloat. But since I spend most of my time sitting in this chair with almost no signal, I notice that the most.
And as for trying out other ROMS, well we'll see when my contract is up and I pick up another phone so I can tinker to my hearts content while keeping a pristine phone for work. I just don't have the leeway to bork my phone right now.
envygreen said:
I rooted my Vivid (AT&T) a long while back, flashed a custom kernel (Faux 007) and tweaked it a fair bit for a cleaner look and better battery life. It helped. Some.
I have work apps installed that are a pain to get authorized and reinstalled, so I'd rather not go through the trouble again if I don't have to. However, I would like to get better battery life out of my phone if I could.
So, anyone have any experience on battery life of root vs ROM? Any particular ROMs/kernels for fantastic battery life? I'm not using sense widgets so doesn't matter if it's sense or stock UI.
TIA
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When you were using faux's kernel did u remember to rename "mpdecision" and "thermald" to "mpdecison_dis" and "thermald_dis"? Cause that would also be why you didnt really see a bigger difference in performance with his kernel.
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Then ya'll will hate this one. I'm running wahjee's 1.6 de-sensed ROM with everything on. Live wallpapers, notifications, widgets galore and a lot of use...
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PACman ROM. this thread is sorta old, but yeah

[Q] [ AnTuTu Benchmarks on Note 4! 50,000+ ??? ]

Post up your AnTuTu Benchmarks! (Snapdragon 805's ... well Exynos too I guess haha. Darn you with the 55k+'s!!!)
(In this format please to keep it organized. It's ideal to just copy/paste it and fill in your numbers.)
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ROM Info:
FireKatN4 Deodex V2 w/ Stock Kernel
AnTuTu Score:
49,694
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Let it fly!
here is mine..!!
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here is mine..!!
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hi can you tell me what did you change to get that high score. i m at 46 k and dont know how to get it better. thnks
capecubano said:
hi can you tell me what did you change to get that high score. i m at 46 k and dont know how to get it better. thnks
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Exynos
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Exynos
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got you. that sucks we are stuck on snapdragon.
Haha! Great answer.... I should have said, SD805'S only hahaha....
Okarina26 said:
Exynos
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Snapdragon 805's dream with a stock kernel. Even with a custom kernel, Exynos will always stomp.
What carrier are you running your international variant on?
Great score by the way! Best I've seen. Well of course, exynos lol.
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here is mine..!!
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49,863 on STOCK KERNEL running FireKatv2 ROM!!!
Almost 50K on STOCK Kernel!!!!
Anyone break 49K on stock kernel? State your ROM you're using too...
This is all for fun, but has anyone hit 49K on the stock kernel?
I've tested all the available ROM's on the other N4 in my household and none has has hit 49K except, FireKatv2.
Show me! :good::good:
100% Stock rom and Stock kernel no root
I dont get it. I have been on a quest to make my phone better since the note 2. I always hit XDA and tinker and learn as much as I can but sometimes I see scores and I see people really excited about the "speed increase and battery life improvements with new roms etc, and I dont get it because for example this is my score without any work on the phone at all. My battery life is about 7.5 hours screen time with gps on and sync on all the time. Screen set to auto. Dont get me wrong I am a lover of modding and hate all the bs that carriers and sammy puts on the phones I am here because I love to work on my phone but I see no real difference right now even maybe I slow the phone down if I do anything to it. Whats going on? I remember on my note 3 I was able to see some improvement on my benchmarks over stock (not by much) and a little better battery life but again not a huge difference. Also I thought I should mention that on echoe rom I was able to score 24 to 25,000 on quadrant clocked at 2.2 ALL THE TIME I once even scored 27,000 when I was overclocked at 2.5. How come I never break 26,000 even tho I am clocked at 2.7 now. Also why am I scoring so high over modded phones
That's an excellent score! Well in your case it just proves that the stock software isn't terrible. It works....Simple as that. As for the modded peeps with custom ROM's, a lot of them have so much crap on there apps wise and have it heavily tweaked with wanam/xposed where it is really weighing down their phones.
I also have a theory about the CPU's in that they are not all created equal. Remember with the Note 3's there was a prompt in the dialer where you could go to a secret menu to see what type of processor you had. I think it was from 0-7 or something and the closer the number was to 7 meant you had a more efficient CPU, but not friendly / "as tolerant" to overclock as oppose to someone with a number closer to "0" which meant that it was more power hungry and more tolerant to over clocking. If you search for it you'll find what I'm talking about. ...
Anyway, I think we have the same thing going on here....where some of us just happen to have stronger CPU's. It's just like car engines.....not all are the same as every one of them have their own unique character. I remember when I got my AMG C Class and my buddy had the same one but a year newer. He used to smoke me (stock) where I had intake/exhaust/flashed chip. I just didn't get it. Sometimes you just end up with a [email protected]$$ CPU coming from a good batch LOL.
Another example is microSD cards...you can buy the same brand / type and all, but will always have different results. My Samsung 64GB PRO is faster than my other Samsung 64GB Pro that I have in another N4. Same phone, same chip...different speeds.
You have an awesome piece. Great score! I can't wait to break 50K's on a stock kernel!
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I dont get it. I have been on a quest to make my phone better since the note 2. I always hit XDA and tinker and learn as much as I can but sometimes I see scores and I see people really excited about the "speed increase and battery life improvements with new roms etc, and I dont get it because for example this is my score without any work on the phone at all. My battery life is about 7.5 hours screen time with gps on and sync on all the time. Screen set to auto. Dont get me wrong I am a lover of modding and hate all the bs that carriers and sammy puts on the phones I am here because I love to work on my phone but I see no real difference right now even maybe I slow the phone down if I do anything to it. Whats going on? I remember on my note 3 I was able to see some improvement on my benchmarks over stock (not by much) and a little better battery life but again not a huge difference. Also I thought I should mention that on echoe rom I was able to score 24 to 25,000 on quadrant clocked at 2.2 ALL THE TIME I once even scored 27,000 when I was overclocked at 2.5. How come I never break 26,000 even tho I am clocked at 2.7 now. Also why am I scoring so high over modded phones
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50,429! FireKatv2 (Stock Kernel) No CPU app. Bone stock.
Finally did it! Woke up, ran it....bam! As stated above this is with FireKatv2, Stock Kernel, Bone Stock and No App. I cleaned up a lot of my apps and my set up is real clean and simple. This is crazy....maybe I'm dreaming right now as I just woke up. No wait, I am awake. :victory:
For fun...enjoy.
Mine is 58483
Im using Galaxy Note 4 T mobile running on marshmallow, I am using beastmode kernal

[Q] Best ROM/Kernel combination for battery life?

Hello World! What's your current ROM and kernel you're running on, and what do you normally get for screen on time? I'd like to get some suggestions.. Would like to get through a whole day comfortably
It doesn't really matter how much screen on time someone else gets, it doesn't mean you'll ever achieve that same amount. Screen uses a pretty constant amount of power per brightness setting, but the other things that use power will take away from that and not all those things are to do with CPU usage, which is the only thing a ROM/Kernel can affect.
On top of which:
"Best" ROM.
There is no such thing as a best ROM. The question itself is ambiguous. "Best" is obviously a subjective term.
What I want from a ROM may well differ from what you want from a ROM, ergo - what is best for me could be worst for you.
If you are asking what the most popular ROMs are, or which ROMs people are using, you can see which threads stay around on the first few pages (and have the most posts) in the Android Development or Original Android Development forums. You can also see what other people are running by reading the What are you running on your Nexus 5 thread.
If you are asking which is the most stable, being a Nexus device - they're all pretty stable.
If you are asking which is best on Battery, ROMs only affect battery if they have a feature that is badly coded. You will likely be able to read about this in the ROM threads. ROMs do not impact battery life. The only impact to battery life are your apps, your settings, how you use the phone and mostly, environmental issues such as Phone Signal.
For tips about improving battery life, please read [Battery Life Help] Troubleshoot battery issues here!
"Best" Kernel
There is no such thing as the "Best" kernel. What we all want from a kernel is different. Again, many people have the misconception that Kernels affect battery life. Let's get this cleared up. Although Kernel devs will build in optimisations and efficiencies that will improve battery life, these are very, VERY tiny...and if 1 kernel has these optimisations, they likely all have.
People will often say "Kernel x is better than kernel y for battery life". This is actually wrong. Kernels respond to user settings. Setting up the governor to favour either battery life or performance is simple enough to do, you just have to do some learning. The reason people think Kernel x is better than y is because developers set their kernels up with their preferred governor settings. This is what we refer to as out-of-the-box settings. The out-of-the-box settings for kernel x may well produce better battery results than the out-of-the-box settings for kernel y, which favour performance. The fact is, you as the user have the ability to tune kernel x or y to perform the same, be that battery or performance - so start learning how to do this yourselves - that way, you can choose the kernel based on the FEATURES you want, and not the fictional performance benefits of one kernel over another.
Hope this helps
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It doesn't really matter how much screen on time someone else gets, it doesn't mean you'll ever achieve that same amount. Screen uses a pretty constant amount of power per brightness setting, but the other things that use power will take away from that and not all those things are to do with CPU usage, which is the only thing a ROM/Kernel can affect.
On top of which:
"Best" ROM.
There is no such thing as a best ROM. The question itself is ambiguous. "Best" is obviously a subjective term.
What I want from a ROM may well differ from what you want from a ROM, ergo - what is best for me could be worst for you.
If you are asking what the most popular ROMs are, or which ROMs people are using, you can see which threads stay around on the first few pages (and have the most posts) in the Android Development or Original Android Development forums. You can also see what other people are running by reading the What are you running on your Nexus 5 thread.
If you are asking which is the most stable, being a Nexus device - they're all pretty stable.
If you are asking which is best on Battery, ROMs only affect battery if they have a feature that is badly coded. You will likely be able to read about this in the ROM threads. ROMs do not impact battery life. The only impact to battery life are your apps, your settings, how you use the phone and mostly, environmental issues such as Phone Signal.
For tips about improving battery life, please read [Battery Life Help] Troubleshoot battery issues here!
"Best" Kernel
There is no such thing as the "Best" kernel. What we all want from a kernel is different. Again, many people have the misconception that Kernels affect battery life. Let's get this cleared up. Although Kernel devs will build in optimisations and efficiencies that will improve battery life, these are very, VERY tiny...and if 1 kernel has these optimisations, they likely all have.
People will often say "Kernel x is better than kernel y for battery life". This is actually wrong. Kernels respond to user settings. Setting up the governor to favour either battery life or performance is simple enough to do, you just have to do some learning. The reason people think Kernel x is better than y is because developers set their kernels up with their preferred governor settings. This is what we refer to as out-of-the-box settings. The out-of-the-box settings for kernel x may well produce better battery results than the out-of-the-box settings for kernel y, which favour performance. The fact is, you as the user have the ability to tune kernel x or y to perform the same, be that battery or performance - so start learning how to do this yourselves - that way, you can choose the kernel based on the FEATURES you want, and not the fictional performance benefits of one kernel over another.
Hope this helps
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Yup that does help... No such thing as 'best'. I didn't make the best title lol.. Currently happy with SlimLP and Franco, just wondering what you guys were getting . What are you on, as of now in terms of ROM/Kernel?
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Yup that does help... No such thing as 'best'. I didn't make the best title lol.. Currently happy with SlimLP and Franco, just wondering what you guys were getting . What are you on, as of now in terms of ROM/Kernel?
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Slim + ElemantalX
samdroid24 said:
Hello World! What's your current ROM and kernel you're running on, and what do you normally get for screen on time? I'd like to get some suggestions.. Would like to get through a whole day comfortably
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I hate the "it all depends on your phone, each one is different" bullcrap. That may be true to an extent, but some combos are generally going to be better than others. Besides, most people who ask this question just want to know what people are using and what is working for these people. So now that my rant is over, I'm using BrokenOS with Sensei Kernel R52. I'm getting roughly 4-5 hour SOT with roughly 50-60% brightness and 18 hours off the charger. I'm using the blacked out gapps that are linked with BrokenOS and using the black Swiftkey keyboard theme. All of the black saves battery when the screen is on because those pixels are off when using amoled screens. Don't know if you know that or not, but hey, it's there. Also, I've set the kernel minimum frequency to 223mhz using intelliplug with fsync and mpdecision off using the trickstermod app. I've set the scheduler to fiops and changed the read ahead value to 1024. This has consistently given me these results which I consider to be great! Hope that helps!
ccoulterjg1 said:
I hate the "it all depends on your phone, each one is different" bullcrap. That may be true to an extent, but some combos are generally going to be better than others. Besides, most people who ask this question just want to know what people are using and what is working for these people. So now that my rant is over, I'm using BrokenOS with Sensei Kernel R52. I'm getting roughly 4-5 hour SOT with roughly 50-60% brightness and 18 hours off the charger. I'm using the blacked out gapps that are linked with BrokenOS and using the black Swiftkey keyboard theme. All of the black saves battery when the screen is on because those pixels are off when using amoled screens. Don't know if you know that or not, but hey, it's there. Also, I've set the kernel minimum frequency to 223mhz using intelliplug with fsync and mpdecision off using the trickstermod app. I've set the scheduler to fiops and changed the read ahead value to 1024. This has consistently given me these results which I consider to be great! Hope that helps!
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That helps greatly! Yes, this question was more of a 'Which ROM/Kernel is the best for you' type of question. And yup, I do know that AMOLEDs give you those pitch black blacks, which is good for battery, since those pixels aren't being used. I myself, am a big flashaholic, tried at least 5-6 Roms and a bunch of kernels.. Best battery life so far for me seems to be Slim + Franco.. Never tried BrokenOS, will flash tonight Thx a lot for your detailed response :good:
ccoulterjg1 said:
I hate the "it all depends on your phone, each one is different" bullcrap. That may be true to an extent, but some combos are generally going to be better than others. Besides, most people who ask this question just want to know what people are using and what is working for these people. So now that my rant is over, I'm using BrokenOS with Sensei Kernel R52. I'm getting roughly 4-5 hour SOT with roughly 50-60% brightness and 18 hours off the charger. I'm using the blacked out gapps that are linked with BrokenOS and using the black Swiftkey keyboard theme. All of the black saves battery when the screen is on because those pixels are off when using amoled screens. Don't know if you know that or not, but hey, it's there. Also, I've set the kernel minimum frequency to 223mhz using intelliplug with fsync and mpdecision off using the trickstermod app. I've set the scheduler to fiops and changed the read ahead value to 1024. This has consistently given me these results which I consider to be great! Hope that helps!
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Each phone is different but that really has nothing to do with battery life, except that maybe some CPU's can undervolt more. I'm not sure anyone has given this "bullcrap" answer you eluded to.
samdroid24 said:
That helps greatly! Yes, this question was more of a 'Which ROM/Kernel is the best for you' type of question. And yup, I do know that AMOLEDs give you those pitch black blacks, which is good for battery, since those pixels aren't being used. I myself, am a big flashaholic, tried at least 5-6 Roms and a bunch of kernels.. Best battery life so far for me seems to be Slim + Franco.. Never tried BrokenOS, will flash tonight Thx a lot for your detailed response :good:
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Check out my rom chroma. Franco kernel is preloaded. Huge update coming very soon.
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I've tried most of the roms and kernels and have always gone back to BlissPop and either Lean or Francos. BlissPop for the features and Lean/Franco for the battery life. I would consider myself a moderate to heavy user and get between 4 - 5 hours of sot, but more important to me, I start my day at 5am and shutdown around 10:30 - 11:00 pm and I generally have 35% - 40% or so left. Of course your milage may vary, I also greenify what I can, but I refuse to lose any features i use, why have a fantastic phone and cripple it. I generally don't change any of the kernels, except maybe set it to conservative, I've had issues in the past undervolting, but thats just me. For the slight battery savings I don't find it does that much. Again, my opinion.
Just take a nandroid of where you are and try some combinations. Give it a few days to settle in. Repeat until your happy with the combination.
zephiK said:
Check out my rom chroma. Franco kernel is preloaded. Huge update coming very soon.
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Will most definitely flash Chroma... Looks like one of the best designed ROMs.. Will flash it either tonight or tomorrow morning... And your name seems familiar from the numerous pages I've went through on Franco's Kernel lol. Thx :laugh:
how many hour is stay on the stock ROM ?
Chroma with FK and vomer are poetry in motion. Use it and prosper.
using the rom that i use, and kernel, and the way i set up my cpu, i see between 5.5 and 7 hours sot. which rom and kernel? try them all out, find your best rom/kernel.
dan04103 said:
Chroma with FK and vomer are poetry in motion. Use it and prosper.
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Glad you're enjoying the combination
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Glad you're enjoying the combination
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Does Chroma have omniswitch? Cause that's a deal breaker
Just flashed Chroma... This ROM is buttery smooth
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I am on Terminus currently with Franco Kernel undervolted all frequencies @-50 which is 100% stable in my case. -75 crashes on games and/or benchmarks. My Snapdragon has a PVS 5 binning.
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Just flashed Chroma... This ROM is buttery smooth
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I'm glad you enjoy it. A new build was pushed out if you didn't get it, 01/24.
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Does Chroma have omniswitch? Cause that's a deal breaker
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Nope, I personally don't find the feature useful.
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Right now I'm on validus ROM with Franco kernel. I only changed the max clock in Franco kernel down to 2.2ghz. Right now I'm at almost 36 hours on time and 4 hours and 40 minutes sot
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I'm glad you enjoy it. A new build was pushed out if you didn't get it, 01/24.
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Yup, flashed the 1/24 build last night

Are you satisfied with performance on your Nexus 6?

So I was wandering if you're happy with your phones as of right now. I've always dreamed of having a stock Nexus device, and finally I god mine 1 year ago, and honestly lately I've been a little disappointed. I'm running stock android, no root, it's completely untouched. I've tried some ROMs like PureNexus, but I switched back to stock. Lately I found this phone extremely laggy in random situations, even when not performing heavy tasks. Also the phone gets EXTREMELY hot extremely easily, and when it's hot it lags even more to the point it's barely usable. When it is charging it becomes soooo sooooo slow and super hot, I'm almost forced to stop using it. Am I the only one experiencing these issues? Are you disappointed with your phone too?
you do realize that by running stock, you are stuck with the stock cpu setup? and thats where big differences come from, how you set up your cpu. with the way i have my cpu set up, my n6 is never choppy nor even slughtly slow.. never. my n6 is the beast that everyone wants.
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So I was wandering if you're happy with your phones as of right now. I've always dreamed of having a stock Nexus device, and finally I god mine 1 year ago, and honestly lately I've been a little disappointed. I'm running stock android, no root, it's completely untouched. I've tried some ROMs like PureNexus, but I switched back to stock. Lately I found this phone extremely laggy in random situations, even when not performing heavy tasks. Also the phone gets EXTREMELY hot extremely easily, and when it's hot it lags even more to the point it's barely usable. When it is charging it becomes soooo sooooo slow and super hot, I'm almost forced to stop using it. Am I the only one experiencing these issues? Are you disappointed with your phone too?
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All devices are a little different... I'm running N preview 3... And I'm completely satisfied, runs amazing for a two year old device.
Here is the main schedule of how I use my device:
In the morning, I charge up to around 80-90%. The device is off. By the end of the day, it's normally at around 30-40%. I don't game, and don't use my phone for much other than texting, social media, and the occasional web browsing/googling.
Mine does get warm at times and hot while charging, but that's expected of any electronic device. Try a charger with a lower wattage.
All the lagginess that I've run into always occurs with extended periods of use. Try shutting the phone off at night and not leaving it on charge all night. Also, a complete internal storage wipe won't do any harm .
An amazing app to help performance, battery life, and overheating is Greenify. It is literally the only app that I use root access for (I would totally root just to use this app). I kinda use it a bit obsessively, manually hibernating every time I leave an app, even though I have auto-hibernation enabled. Know which apps are memory hogs. Make sure to keep your eye on them (snapchat, facebook, etc.).
Hope I helped, may have gone a bit overboard on answering this.
Cheers!
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you do realize that by running stock, you are stuck with the stock cpu setup? and thats where big differences come from, how you set up your cpu. with the way i have my cpu set up, my n6 is never choppy nor even slughtly slow.. never. my n6 is the beast that everyone wants.
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How's your CPU set up? And does your setting compromise battery?
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How's your CPU set up? And does your setting compromise battery?
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no, no comprising battery. but im more after performance, since i get 5h sot no matter what. i use the ondemand governor(98 up threshold and 15000 sampling rate) with the deadline scheduler. everything else that i do isnt as important than setting my governor/scheduler. i have it set to hand around the lower cpu when not doing much, then jumping to top cpu speed as soon as its needed.
I hate my nexus 6 when I charge it, I cant use it super slow I'm going to change it with xiaomi redmi note 3 pro soon. 209 euros for a beast
fedef12evo said:
I hate my nexus 6 when I charge it, I cant use it super slow I'm going to change it with xiaomi redmi note 3 pro soon. 209 euros for a beast
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=67447224/
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no, no comprising battery. but im more after performance, since i get 5h sot no matter what. i use the ondemand governor(98 up threshold and 15000 sampling rate) with the deadline scheduler. everything else that i do isnt as important than setting my governor/scheduler. i have it set to hand around the lower cpu when not doing much, then jumping to top cpu speed as soon as its needed.
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So if I install cyanogenmod 13 could you help me set the way you did? I mean just tell me in which menu I should go and what I should modify. It would be greatly appreciated! I usually get 3h of screentime, you get 2 hours more, that's amazing. Also could you tell me what kernel should I use with cyanogenmod 13?
I'm just shaking my head. I've never had these problems. Lagginess?? Nope. I get pretty good battery life and I've really only used 3 ROMs; Chroma, Purte Nexus and now the setup in my signature. for the last few months
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I'm just shaking my head. I've never had these problems. Lagginess?? Nope. I get pretty good battery life and I've really only used 3 ROMs; Chroma, Purte Nexus and now the setup in my signature. for the last few months
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Do you think that Pure Nexus or cyanogenmod are better than stock? What settings should I change after installing new ROMs to get the best performance/battery?
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Do you think that Pure Nexus or cyanogenmod are better than stock? What settings should I change after installing new ROMs to get the best performance/battery?
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I can only speak for Pure Nexus (Especially the new build on 6/21), but it smokes the stock ROM from Google. Very smooth scrolling, fluid animations, fast app opening....It's just better imho.
Gotta remember, this phone is 1.5 years old...While it was spec heavy when it came out, time is catching up with it
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Do you think that Pure Nexus or cyanogenmod are better than stock? What settings should I change after installing new ROMs to get the best performance/battery?
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There is no best.. That's why no one is answering g you.. Its user dependent we all use them differently
The phone is great at full battery. Anything above 40 percent. Under that... Not as good. Speakers crackle, CPU cores shut down and no matter what I do I can't override it. It gets super bad at about 20 percent where I have to raise the clock speed to 1.7 ghz from the 1 GHz I run normally since it is a stuttery mess that slow on 2 cores. So, for me the battery saving features make the battery life worse. Not to mention battery life is so random. I'll get a day and a half or more one day and the next not even get 12 hours. Doing very similar things, very similar screen on time of about 3 hours. The highest screen on time I got was 4 or 5 hours with pure nexus, but I'm on cyanogemod now and it doesn't last more than about 3 and a half often.
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The phone is great at full battery. Anything above 40 percent. Under that... Not as good. Speakers crackle, CPU cores shut down and no matter what I do I can't override it. It gets super bad at about 20 percent where I have to raise the clock speed to 1.7 ghz from the 1 GHz I run normally since it is a stuttery mess that slow on 2 cores. So, for me the battery saving features make the battery life worse. Not to mention battery life is so random. I'll get a day and a half or more one day and the next not even get 12 hours. Doing very similar things, very similar screen on time of about 3 hours. The highest screen on time I got was 4 or 5 hours with pure nexus, but I'm on cyanogemod now and it doesn't last more than about 3 and a half often.
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sounds like its an issue with your set up? why the heck would you buy a nexys 6 only to lower its performance to a dual core? i use my n6 every day to its max. i set up my cpu to work like a beast! but, no matter what, i ALWAYS see at the very least 5 hours sot. anyways, what it sounds like is that you need to learn to set up your device a bit better, like screen brightness.. do you realize that the screen uses more battery than any other part of the phone? i keep my brightness at about 5%. and for every 30% i raise it, i lose 1 hour sot. anyways, theres just so much other stuff to try out.
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sounds like its an issue with your set up? why the heck would you buy a nexys 6 only to lower its performance to a dual core? i use my n6 every day to its max. i set up my cpu to work like a beast! but, no matter what, i ALWAYS see at the very least 5 hours sot. anyways, what it sounds like is that you need to learn to set up your device a bit better, like screen brightness.. do you realize that the screen uses more battery than any other part of the phone? i keep my brightness at about 5%. and for every 30% i raise it, i lose 1 hour sot. anyways, theres just so much other stuff to try out.
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No I don't put it at dual core. It's just that at 20% or less battery the phone shuts 2 cores off.
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and to be fair.... A dual core Nexus 6 still smokes the ancient droid RAZR m I had before this.
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No I don't put it at dual core. It's just that at 20% or less battery the phone shuts 2 cores off.
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and to be fair.... A dual core Nexus 6 still smokes the ancient droid RAZR m I had before this.
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ahh, sorry.. i thought you weakened it yourself, my bad. it just lowers the cpu speed to 19xxmhz. at 40%, it gets lowered to 22xxmhz. but ill be honest, its a rare day when my phone goes under 50%, usually its on thd charger by that time.
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I've learned that pretty much anything aosp based is pretty much the winner in terms of performance and stability and just overall because there's less stuff going on... Chroma or Pure Nexus is the heaviest I would go.
And use Greenify! I explained it in my earlier response...
Franco kernel was pretty sick when I used it with Chroma and I got awesome battery life with practically stock settings. I think the only thing I did was have the cpu underclock at 25%... But I rarely ever got to below 40%...
And there's always battery saving mode!
I always get decent performance no matter what I'm doing because the N6 is such a beast
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I don't do anything special. I usually use the kernel with the stock settings that comes with whichever ROM I'm on. I remove bloat and apps I don't use. When I was running stock/rooted, I'd use a custom kernel but again with the default settings
You try ondemand on b14ckb1rd kernel ......
4h+ screen on and very good performance!
https://www.dropbox.com/s/t3ku0q7msavbonu/Screenshot_20160622-002517.png?dl=0
So I really like the performance of this phone. It's fast and good, and the camera is adequate... Until things go south and I want to smash it against a wall. Mostly the problems start when battery drops under 40%. While I know cores get disabled, and performance gets limited, it's just horrible. From what I understand flashing a custom rom will make things more manageable? I've flashed ROMs in the past and had positive experiences with CM. Will Cm13 do the job?

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