Any chance anyone would know when and if Tizen is coming to Note 4?
Another question is, how can we get our hands on it to play around with here, as a ROM.
I have found photos of it on Wiki, but that's not satisfying enough. I would like to see if it is better than Android. I have been reading that Samsung is going to part ways with Google..
Thoughts?
Is this useful?
https://source.tizen.org/documentation/reference/flash-device
You will never see an "official" Tizen ROM from Samsung on the Note 4.
Perhaps on some future device(s) similar to the Note 4, but not the N910xx series.
And I hope it never comes to the Note 4...EVER
Hell no man. You should be tar and feathered for putting that bad mojo out.
BAD ASS NOTE 4 + BAD ASS GEAR S
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And I hope it never comes to the Note 4...EVER
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I never heard of Tizen - what is it and why is it so bad? I did a google search but didn't learn much?
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I never heard of Tizen - what is it and why is it so bad? I did a google search but didn't learn much?
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It is pretty much samsung take on a phone operating system. Like how apple got IOS and google got AOSP...samsung got TIZEN <<< it even sounds bad on paper lol
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Hell no man. You should be tar and feathered for putting that bad mojo out.
BAD ASS NOTE 4 + BAD ASS GEAR S
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I know right? I feel this thread is a bad mojo and its going to drop on us any minute now. The day it comes to samsung devices is the day I leave samsung lol
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It is pretty much samsung take on a phone operating system. Like how apple got IOS and google got AOSP...samsung got TIZEN <<< it even sounds bad on paper lol
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I know right? I feel this thread is a bad mojo and its going to drop on us any minute now. The day it comes to samsung devices is the day I leave samsung lol
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I will be right behind you or pushing you out the way to get past you lol
BAD ASS NOTE 4 + BAD ASS GEAR S
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I will be right behind you or pushing you out the way to get past you lol
BAD ASS NOTE 4 + BAD ASS GEAR S
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Doesn't the Gear S run a version of Tizen?
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Doesn't the Gear S run a version of Tizen?
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Yes but that is a watch not heavy use on that. It a toy. Plus looking to install android on it
BAD ASS NOTE 4 + BAD ASS GEAR S
Tizen is plain UGLY. Will not buy anything with that operating system. Why you think I didn't get the gear S? Everything was great on it. Even the price was ok considering you can make calls without the phone present . But it running Tizen is a HUGE ,HUGE MEGA NO NO!!. Google will dominate the smart watch era. Apple watch is UGLY and the most expensive watch you could get your hands on!
ROLL THAT SHT, LIGHT THAT SHT. SMOKKKKE THAT SHT
My Gear2 runs Tizen. Far too little development.
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My Gear2 runs Tizen. Far too little development.
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You won't see any till it becomes android with a port.
BAD ASS NOTE 4 + BAD ASS GEAR S
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I never heard of Tizen - what is it and why is it so bad? I did a google search but didn't learn much?
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Nothing is wrong with tizen in and of its own. It's an operating system that's in it infancy. Samsung's answer to ios. Samsung has been trying to steal apple's thunder for years now but they have yet to recreate the type of brand loyalty that'll have people lining up for their latest wares with the blind devotion that Apple has.
Nothing's wrong with tizen what's wrong is the reason for tizen, sammy wants all the money and all the control. I'm oversimplifying, I know, but in the end if samsung owns the hardware and the software they're going to go on a proprietary campaign just like Apple. Bloatwarepalooza!
I really like the galaxy line, I love samsung too but I love Android above all. I love choice, and tizen would just take that away. If they have their way. Which I doubt...
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Nothing is wrong with tizen in and of its own. It's an operating system that's in it infancy. Samsung's answer to ios. Samsung has been trying to steal apple's thunder for years now but they have yet to recreate the type of brand loyalty that'll have people lining up for their latest wares with the blind devotion that Apple has.
Nothing's wrong with tizen what's wrong is the reason for tizen, sammy wants all the money and all the control. I'm oversimplifying, I know, but in the end if samsung owns the hardware and the software they're going to go on a proprietary campaign just like Apple. Bloatwarepalooza!
I really like the galaxy line, I love samsung too but I love Android above all. I love choice, and tizen would just take that away. If they have their way. Which I doubt...
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Excellent description and thank you for that - I can understand why Samsung would want to do this - but it's a day late and a dollar short really - Android has such deep penetration in the market and market acceptance that there is little chance they will get anywhere - if they are even still trying - Hell, Look at Windows Mobile? And it is actually not that bad for what it is - unfortunately for Windows mobile, will never take back all that it could have gotten though - way too late for that (they were asleep at the switch for too long and IOS and Android are too solidly in place and don;t seem to be making any mistakes) -
anyway - thanks for the information on Tizen - I appreciate it.
I flashed Tizen on a Furby. Now it keeps demanding respect and calling me Comrade.
I can remember when Android just started on Phones. I had a Iphone back then. Then my Iphone keep't locking me out for hours at a time, because the battery would get so hot. But after my first Android phone, here i am on my fifth.
It was just a question about the software. I have read that Samsung wants to cut ties with google. But, from what i have read here, it looks to be a costly transition. That's why in the OP, I asked, Is it something the community would look into playing with? I know it's not going to just blow up and take over. The other question i have, Would it really help with the hardware, or will it just be another OS that no one really wants? We just keep looking for something better..
Say Android, runs out of the alphabet of OS, then what?
I tried the LOLIPOP, it does not entertain me at all.. I do miss having the Jelly Bean.
It's all about acceptance, do we or don't we?
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This is posted over at Sammobile.com
http://www.sammobile.com/2015/01/19...ite-fast-and-smooth-even-on-low-end-hardware/
It appears to be in the works..
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So i went out and bought an iphone 4s...
here is a quick comparison between this phone and my android galaxy s2
first of all, camera on the ip4s is lightyears beyond the sgs2... samsungs are simply cheap in my opinion. but thats just me.
phone has way more apps than android, and better quality too. that was a nice upgrade
The touch screen (although incredibly small) is way more responsive, and has way better color, and a lot sharper. This was noticeable. The difference was night and day. All android phones seems to has this problem though.. not good color. :/
And siri is amazing. I can’t believe how smart this application is…. Cutting edge. I wish my sgs2 had something similar built in.
The speaker quality on the ear piece and the loud speaker were also superior quality.
The radios also are better than any android phone I have ever used. No LOS!
My final verdict is android needs to step up their game. Sure the new ICS phone is coming out, but it will still lag! It irritates me that I have been missing out for so long on all the freedom and variety of apps available with iOS!!
anybody else have a similar experience?
don’t turn this into a flame thread either.
Cool story
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Cool story
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if you aren't going to be serious then don't reply
If you are looking for a similar experience how about you check out 1 of the other 50 threads on the topic. You obviously don't know much with your title (compare to my droid). Droid is a branding used by verizon. Android is an operating system. Great story though.
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What's the "experience"? That one phone is better than another for you?
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Did he just use the words freedom and iphone in the same sentence? lolol
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Lol + 1 made me laugh
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If you don't want to make this into a flame thread that is next to impossible. Firstly almost the entire populace here hates the iPhone, or just apple. Secondly, whilst i will belive some of your points and they are valid, the others are downright trollish. e.g. "Sure the new ICS phone is coming out, but it will still lag!", have you ever used a galaxy nexus? Have you ever used ICS? If not, then why the heck do you have such an idea of which you have no basis of experience from?
I doubt it will lag seeing as i own a sgs 2 and this thing can't lagg on me. So why should a galaxy nexus with "better" firmware and practically equivalent hardware lagg?
Point being, all i see this thread as is a way to start a flame war.
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Why would we? It looks like you're already trying so hard!
Lots of your points just don't make any sense. Especially things like saying the colours look better on an iPhone than on Super AMOLED Plus. Isn't that the main selling feature of the Amoled displays?
Anways, glad you're happy with your purchase. Not too glad that you cannot compare phones at all. But hey, you win some you lose some.
Agreed. I too have an SGS II and to say it's laggy is silly. The SGS II is the fastest phone to date. It was rated #1 device on Consumer Reports and Editor's Choice on a well known web site. This guy's post made me laugh so hard I spilled my coffee. Seeing the words freedom and IOS in the same sentence is histerical.
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I got confused at the part where he said it had more freedom than Android ? Lmao ,
Max. (From my Galaxy 2)
Gotta love the noobs.
Have YOU hugged a noob today? <3
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Gotta love the noobs.
Have YOU hugged a noob today? <3
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Max. (From my Galaxy 2)
well thats just my experience.
the music player on the iphone seemed to be a little better too. but again, just my observation. people get so defensive it's kinda funny seriously, haha.
does anybody know any good roms for the ip4s?
EDIT*** trollololol
i'm kidding you guys... i hate iphones. just wanted to mix up the pot a little. i have an evo, and will never own an iOS product. lawl
i think the troll post was a little too obvious... it was the part about the display color wasn't it? llooool
screw apple.
hottubtimemachine said:
well thats just my experience.
the music player on the iphone seemed to be a little better too. but again, just my observation. people get so defensive it's kinda funny seriously, haha.
does anybody know any good roms for the ip4s?
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FML!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
hottubtimemachine said:
i think the troll post was a little too obvious... it was the part about the display color wasn't it?
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No mate. It was this bit...
hottubtimemachine said:
So i went out and bought an iphone 4s...
here is a quick comparison between this phone and my android galaxy s2
first of all, camera on the ip4s is lightyears beyond the sgs2... samsungs are simply cheap in my opinion. but thats just me.
phone has way more apps than android, and better quality too. that was a nice upgrade
The touch screen (although incredibly small) is way more responsive, and has way better color, and a lot sharper. This was noticeable. The difference was night and day. All android phones seems to has this problem though.. not good color. :/
And siri is amazing. I can’t believe how smart this application is…. Cutting edge. I wish my sgs2 had something similar built in.
The speaker quality on the ear piece and the loud speaker were also superior quality.
The radios also are better than any android phone I have ever used. No LOS!
My final verdict is android needs to step up their game. Sure the new ICS phone is coming out, but it will still lag! It irritates me that I have been missing out for so long on all the freedom and variety of apps available with iOS!!
anybody else have a similar experience?
don’t turn this into a flame thread either.
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Lmao
No hug for you then
Max. (From my Galaxy 2)
What a fail at trolling lol
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Cool story bro, don't let the door hit you on the way out.
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I though it sucked really bad. Not only it is lame but it rarely talks about the device itself and they kind of abused their simple idea which was used for the Galaxy S II.
An ad like this one would've worked like magic:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvUK2VmbO2I
But unfortunately, this just comes to show how corporate Samsung ruins simple ideas for the money. I bet all what they were thinking about was spending more money to justify the spots costs, while completely ignoring that simple is what works these days.
Only 3 threads so far on this? I predict 10
From the Beast : Galaxy Note
I like it very much,simple yet effective....
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I liked the ad a lot.
A. It had the song "I Believe in a Thing Called Love," by The Darkness (LOVE THAT SONG).
B. It had Brian Urlacher
C. It had Miranda Kerr (YES!)
D. It showed the 2 MAIN features of the phone which truly distinguishes it from the iPhone - the 5.3" screen and the stylus without being over-technical. If you ever watch iPhone ads, they are never over-technical and focus more on design and simplicity, which Samsung must do to appeal to the non-techie masses. Have you ever seen an iPhone TV ad stating what speed is the processor or how many megapixels is the camera?
No, but they do show it actually being used for something other than dancing around in the street. You can show real-life usability without being too technical.
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No, but they do show it actually being used for something other than dancing around in the street. You can show real-life usability without being too technical.
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They did show usability:
1. How you can annotate Google Maps using the S-Pen
2. How you can do video chat (just like the iPhone) but without being on WiFi only.
3. How you can take a photo and doodle on the pic directly (in this case Brian Urlacher autographing is picture).
The commercial was ok. Sammy could have made it better tbh.
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The commercial was ok. Sammy could have made it better tbh.
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I think it's very rogue. It's meant for the US people.
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I think it's very rogue. It's meant for the US people.
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I'm USA people and I thought it was weird. I thought it did a poor job of selling the product. Instead of trying to knock Apple they should have focused on the next big thing and backed that up with the features. Either that or stick to knocking Apple. To many messages in too short a time presented with far too much ado.
I liked it. It wasn't the best but I guess that's the best it gets from Samsung?
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I really think Bobby Farelly should have done the Me, Myself, and Irene approach. The galaxy note having a dual personality, a phone and a tablet. And a midget.
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According to this article (and its source) it does:
http://appleinsider.com/articles/13...tch-flops-with-just-50000-units-sold---report
Such a shame! For starters they could have reduced the high return rates by making the SDK public and adding some more apps to the store.
Is it really just a pilot? Personally I don't care now we have unleashed the potential powers of the Gear with fOmey's Null_ rom
As an app developer I do care however... I'm burning to create apps for this device. But all signs are in a complete other direction
Update1: Just in : according to Samsung it is a success!
http://www.engadget.com/2013/11/19/samsung-800000-galaxy-gear-sales/
Update 2: And look who is making the headlines over at Engadget!
http://www.engadget.com/2013/11/19/galaxy-gear-smartwatch-custom-rom/
i don't see how its a flop .... just because some wieners say it is a flop doesn't means its true. null_ roms from f0mey are making me fall in love with my gear, its an awesome device , just needs the potential unlocked by samsung providing SDK free for all and some good developers developing for this device. I am sure it would happen soon.
regards,
richie
p.s. : i got rid of iphone 5 just for this (GEAR), and i have an ipad lying around .... i have always been android lover but have a lumia 925 too .... and my preference is android, apple is dead meat. Windows mobile is ****....
I think that Apple refuses to appeal to early adopters. If a product doesn't sell a billion units and appeal to the simplistic users they feel its a failure. Personally I use a MBP and have for years and love it, however I wouldn't piss on an iOS device because outside its initial release when there wasn't other device like the iPad/iPhone out there. Now it hasn't advanced for ****. Being an early adopter I love the constant change and dev. of the devices. For me its not about what fancy accessories I can get but what the device itself can do and how it can be pushed. Oh well, they will forever sit and bash on Android devices now that Steve Jobs is gone. Their competitive edge and creativity is gone too.
Samsung just contradicted the 50k estimate, says it sold 800k units
http://www.engadget.com/2013/11/19/samsung-800000-galaxy-gear-sales/
And that's good news!
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http://www.engadget.com/2013/11/19/samsung-800000-galaxy-gear-sales/
And that's good news!
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Even bigger news:
http://www.engadget.com/2013/11/19/galaxy-gear-smartwatch-custom-rom/
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Even bigger news:
http://www.engadget.com/2013/11/19/galaxy-gear-smartwatch-custom-rom/
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Hahaha! Congratulations. You made the headlines !
800k it's not bad. If the system was not close ( just a few samsung phones) the sales were 5x at least. I own smart watch 2 and gear, note 3 and z1. The pluses for sm2 are the waterproof and a little bit the clasic design. Gear is better expecialy after the last update. I wear everyday the gear.
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According to this article (and its source) it does:
http://appleinsider.com/articles/13...tch-flops-with-just-50000-units-sold---report
Such a shame! For starters they could have reduced the high return rates by making the SDK public and adding some more apps to the store.
Is it really just a pilot? Personally I don't care now we have unleashed the potential powers of the Gear with fOmey's Null_ rom
As an app developer I do care however... I'm burning to create apps for this device. But all signs are in a complete other direction
Update1: Just in : according to Samsung it is a success!
http://www.engadget.com/2013/11/19/samsung-800000-galaxy-gear-sales/
Update 2: And look who is making the headlines over at Engadget!
http://www.engadget.com/2013/11/19/galaxy-gear-smartwatch-custom-rom/
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The Apple insider article was a mistake that has been corrected on other sites it was 50k in South Korea. Heading towards 1 million worldwide and the world's biggest selling smart watch, the latest watch firmware has transformed notifications.
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Dont forget only note 3 was alowed to sync ......now alot of other samsung phones are receiving update 4.3 we will see about....
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800k shipped to retailers, not sold.
You should know better than to trust apple insider as an accurate source with anything samsung related lol
when you search the internet the Galaxy Gear gets bad press and its nuts, I was a little put off buying one at the start but decided yesterday to spend the cash as I am in Brisbane Australia for 3 weeks of training then back to NZ, I when I first brought my gear (yesterday) went to try some notifications and thought what the hell Samsung why would I want a notification that means I then had to open my phone.......... now think about this
Samsung is NOT some back yard designer/manufacture but a multi discipline very very big company, did you know they build heavy Industries?
So now we know Samsung is a very clever bunch of people... why would they sell a product with such a negative response from the public?
My answer to this came today when I upgraded my Gear to the latest firmware version and suddenly ALL the things we wanted were present, think about this.... how hard was it for Samsung to add this extra features? SIMPLE... so why release it without it?
NEGATIVE ADVERTISING IS THE CLUE
If you think about the amount of coverage this has given Samsung in a very short time well....... and they fix it with a simple update? perfect marketing!!
Oh and im very happy with my gear including the price, it will exponentially improve over the next few months
Also look at the thread count and posts in the smart watch section, another thing you see comments out there stating its useless without a phone.... well yes you need to do the initial setup, but its got a built in clock, when you turn off your phone, or flatten it...it still keeps time
samsung is great at making hardware, but i can't think of any part of the software that i really appreciate. i would love if they just stick to releasing new devices itself running pure android.
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samsung is great at making hardware, but i can't think of any part of the software that i really appreciate. i would love if they just stick to releasing new devices itself running pure android.
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yes I can agree with that, its better to be an open market for this sort of thing
Samsung with the latest update is wayyyy ahead of sony smartwatch witch is on the 3th generation. They launched the gear without some of the improuvments because they WANTED baddly to be the first, before Apple. What i don't understand is why samsung is not sending again the gear to be reevaluate by tech media after the last update.
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samsung was in a rush to release the watch so they can paten so apple wont sue them
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Samsung with the latest update is wayyyy ahead of sony smartwatch witch is on the 3th generation. They launched the gear without some of the improuvments because they WANTED baddly to be the first, before Apple. What i don't understand is why samsung is not sending again the gear to be reevaluate by tech media after the last update.
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because they dont need to, they will let the internet just flow into it.......
for a moment there I thought you were going to refer to some sort of flash light using the gear hahaha.
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when you search the internet the Galaxy Gear gets bad press and its nuts, I was a little put off buying one at the start but decided yesterday to spend the cash as I am in Brisbane Australia for 3 weeks of training then back to NZ, I when I first brought my gear (yesterday) went to try some notifications and thought what the hell Samsung why would I want a notification that means I then had to open my phone.......... now think about this
Samsung is NOT some back yard designer/manufacture but a multi discipline very very big company, did you know they build heavy Industries?
So now we know Samsung is a very clever bunch of people... why would they sell a product with such a negative response from the public?
My answer to this came today when I upgraded my Gear to the latest firmware version and suddenly ALL the things we wanted were present, think about this.... how hard was it for Samsung to add this extra features? SIMPLE... so why release it without it?
NEGATIVE ADVERTISING IS THE CLUE
If you think about the amount of coverage this has given Samsung in a very short time well....... and they fix it with a simple update? perfect marketing!!
Oh and im very happy with my gear including the price, it will exponentially improve over the next few months
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Also, the negative publicity because of the non-availability of key features on a device that's hardware specs should allow, makes developers naturally want to get their hands on it and fix these problems, then what does Samsung have, a bigger developer following to help enhance this newer device form factor so they can be the first on the front lines with the most development, so they can set themselves as the main smart watch manufacture, so they can control more of the market, in short, they peoples at the Samsung do da business sneaky and outs o dey own greed like a de apple butt-a-heads (but not nearly as selfish and unconcerned about the true advancement of technology as the advancement of their own wallet) Lolz on rants but it's true.
Mate please learn to spell and write properly
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Compared to say the S5, or Note 4 ?
I was shocked last weekend when my friends and I had some bbq afternoon... All 10 of them had a shiny iphone 6 !
Mind you these people don't know sh ite about rooting and stuff like that, they just take pictures and post them on instagram and sh itbook, even my cousin and her husband... am I the only one who loves Android and Samsung? or they have not seen the light yet????
Lol. I just look at the sheeple and laugh.
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Mind you, these are the same people that will take their laptop to an "expert" when they have a virus.
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[/COLOR]Mind you, these are the same people that will take their laptop to an "expert" when they have a virus.
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exactly right, they abuse me when they get a virus on their laptop...
iPhones are just popular because they are easy to use and are updated often and quickly. It's a painless process to upload your music, movies and photos. iOS has a huge app library with very nice quality apps. The phones look great and perform well. Using one iPhone means you pretty much know how to use any iPhone. This is unlike Android where music management is a nightmare. The Play store is flooded with low quality apps and poor support. Using one Android phone means you know nothing about all the other Android phones. In short, to the non tech geek iPhones are the go-to. They are popular because they are easy to use. It also helps that Apples products are usually a status symbol.
The downside to not having Android is your limited in customization of ROMs or kernels. That doesn't mean you can't customize iOS. You just can't go as far as you can with Android.
Android Phones gives you more freedom.
Apple iPhones gives you less headaches.
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iPhones are just popular because they are easy to use and are updated often and quickly. It's a painless process to upload your music, movies and photos. iOS has a huge app library with very nice quality apps. The phones look great and perform well. Using one iPhone means you pretty much know how to use any iPhone. This is unlike Android where music management is a nightmare. The Play store is flooded with low quality apps and poor support. Using one Android phone means you know nothing about all the other Android phones. In short, to the non tech geek iPhones are the go-to. They are popular because they are easy to use. It also helps that Apples products are usually a status symbol.
The downside to not having Android is your limited in customization of ROMs or kernels. That doesn't mean you can't customize iOS. You just can't go as far as you can with Android.
Android Phones gives you more freedom.
Apple iPhones gives you less headaches.
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Could not have said that better IPhone is perfect when you just want the phone that works without much hassle. Android is perfect when you love tweaking and playing with your phone and not actually use it that much Because with a android you are never satisfied, there is always something more to tweak, change rom and other stuff so for me it always ends with just messing with it. To much time tweaking and flashing to find the perfect setup
Although the tweaking and flashing is a massive plus with Android for me, an even bigger plus is the ability to download files like mp3s and pdfs etc from the net or a torrent and play them straight away. With IOS you can't. Android is much more like a true mini pc compared to IOS. That's why I could never go back to IOS.
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Although the tweaking and flashing is a massive plus with Android for me, an even bigger plus is the ability to download files like mp3s and pdfs etc from the net or a torrent and play them straight away. With IOS you can't. Android is much more like a true mini pc compared to IOS. That's why I could never go back to IOS.
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Oh yeah, the mp3 download is a big factor for me. My friends ask me where I buy music. I said it's free and I use my phone, and showed a friend once... he just kept quiet. If you reverse the situation, I'm sure they'd be bragging.
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Oh yeah, the mp3 download is a big factor for me. My friends ask me where I buy music. I said it's free and I use my phone, and showed a friend once... he just kept quiet. If you reverse the situation, I'm sure they'd be bragging.
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you dont have to buy anything
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you dont have to buy anything
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Yep it's called stealing ....
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Ive a app called xender which sends all the mp3 & videos from android to iphone without any hassle otherwise I would have said bye bye iphone.I think iphone should reduce some restrictions,would gather more android users.
What do you guys think?
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RISHI RAJ said:
Ive a app called xender which sends all the mp3 & videos from android to iphone without any hassle otherwise I would have said bye bye iphone.I think iphone should reduce some restrictions,would gather more android users.
What do you guys think?
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Me, NOT at the moment. I am so used to android, just like my PC vs Mac, and my Canon DSLR vs Nikon...
But time will tell, now that Samsung started rolling phones that have irreplaceable battery and no SD card support...
nookcoloruser said:
Yep it's called stealing ....
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Nope i meant it goes same for both os.
tmac31 said:
Nope i meant it goes same for both os.
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Given the way the OP phrased his post - I think we were both accurate But yes you are right. There are plenty of people accessing content they haven't paid for on iOS too.
as an ex-iphone user (went from S1 to iphone 4 then iphone 5, back to S3 and every samsung since then) i have a similar view on them.
iPhones are simple to understand - not simple to use. there is always one way to do something, and thats it.
For many people thats preferable to feeling like an idiot when there is 10 ways to do something. go to android and watch a movie "oh it didnt work" - you tell them to try BS player or MX player and they just throw their hands in the air, because the built in video player is holy and sacred.
The reason for the simplicity is simple: On apple, every last thing is designed to come from itunes, and be played by the apple stock apps. there is one source to get the content, one app to play them, and the only thing that seperates the users is how much money you have to throw at the apple ecosystem - once someone has spent a few hundred bucks on iTunes content they'll never leave, because they add that value to offset the cost of a new phone. $900 iphone? pfft,i have $2K in iTunes, it might as well be free!"
on android, you can buy them from a dozen sources, pirate them, copy them from your PC - and you have infinite playback options. its simply too complex for people who bought the phone without knowing *WHY* they bought that phone, since they dont use most of its capabilities anyway. These are the common iSheep, the people who bought it because it's cool and looks fancy, but use it like a nokia.
Everyone i've converted from apple to samsung has followed the same path as well "why? this does the same things as my iphone, but the iphone is prettier and has itunes" - they do a direct comparison without even considering what the phone can do BEYOND the iphones capabilities. Showing them the S-pen, or directly playing files off my NAS/PC over wifi, or MHL/HDMI, or the note 4's super fast charging blows them away.
the iphone is the baseline, and they're so used to having just ONE choice that when presented with two or three or 10, they simply treat all the options as the same.
"i hate android" means "i used one android phone once, and they're all the same right?" - this also goes for themes, keyboards, stock apps and so on.
Mussels84 said:
they're so used to having just ONE choice that when presented with two or three or 10, they simply treat all the options as the same. "i hate android" means "i used one android phone once, and they're all the same right?"
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Pretty much. I was really over whelmed when I came back to Android. I was used to things just working out of the box. Now I have to rebuild my music collection from Google Play as that is eaiser then attempting to transfer from iTunes. Took a few days before I got the hang of flashing and building from source. Things have changed as if you keep in mind my iPhone is now just a really expensive GameBoy Advance and remote. My Note 4 is my daily driver.
So, on iPhone there is no proper PGP support, no NFC APIs (so no support for secure tokens such as Yubikey, or even NFC tags), no low level network APIs (so you can't implement your own protocol, such as OpenVPN).... (I could go on and on)
It seems like a no-go to me, it is pretty much locked down as well, even though you actually purchased the device you can't do anything on it that's not endorsed by Apple, that's why I strayed away from the iPhone in the first place (I used to own an iPhone 3GS, that's until I swiched to android and never came back).
As someone that works in IT, and need to handle sensitive data, iOS is just not the system for me.
mathieulh said:
As someone that works in IT, and need to handle sensitive data, iOS is just not the system for me.
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But that's the thing of course. If you work in IT, you most probably want an android. However if you don't know sh*t about IT, which 98% of the people don't, an iphone really might be the better option. You dont have to worry about battery drains, wakelocks, background apps running, viruses, etc. It just does what it's supposed to do when a monkey operates it.
But if you're in IT, you most likely want to do some more stuff, go more in depth and then Android is clearly the OS of choice.
I like iphone coz everybody knows when u have an iphone.But you have to tell that you have a Note 4 coz there are hell lot of samsung mobile with similar looks.Also there is atleast 1 year surity that apple will not release another phone with similar looks.Also with some restrictions removed like access to files or install from external source could make apple on top.But guess this is how ios will be.Although I can now play movies & songs from external source by an app called xender atleast making it usable
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For me is simple, if I use iPhone I will become dump, if I use android I will be generous because android is for geek not for dump. Yes lol most of the people use apple iPhone but they are totally useless in technology. There are a lot of iPhone user who even don't know simple problems in smart phone world. My company have a lot of previous ios user try to use android and return back to iPhone because very simple problem in android (simple problem for android user) is bothering them, that android user can solve the problem in just few second. I have a lot of friends using iPhone and always come to me with some simple problem I just laugh and says only one word..... useless guys. They always says iPhone is very smart.. ha ha.. i always says ..yes you are dump and go study first.
I am not insulting them, I just want them to not blind and open eye, Technology is changing, iPhone is good but not perfect, android is good but not for normal user same as window phone.
Pyae_Sone_Win said:
For me is simple, if I use iPhone I will become dump, if I use android I will be generous because android is for geek not for dump. Yes lol most of the people use apple iPhone but they are totally useless in technology. There are a lot of iPhone user who even don't know simple problem problem in smart phone world. My company have a lot of previous ios user try to use android and return back to iPhone because very simple problem in android (simple problem for android user) is bothering them, that android user can solve the problem in just few second. I have a lot of friends using iPhone and always come to me with some simple problem I just laugh and says only one word..... useless guys. They always says iPhone is very smart.. ha ha.. i always says ..yes you are dump and go study first.
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I do not intend to be rude, but in english the word dump means something different to the way you are using it. Perhaps you meant the word dumb?